Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-17 Thread Ant McWatt
John, Well, you brought-up the descriptive word snide which helpfully informs me that's what you personally think you are.  However, if you want MY personal opinion about your behaviour on this discussion board recently, I think you're an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE. For instance, you made the

Re: [MD] Henry Miller's book Big Sur

2014-05-17 Thread Ant McWatt
Dan, Many, many thanks for the additional biographical details about Henry Miller.  I suppose seeing now that Miller influenced Jack Kerouac's writing who, in turn of course, influenced Pirsig, I suppose we shouldn't be TOO surprized that Miller's and Pirsig's writing have deep similarities

Re: [MD] Art fine art

2014-05-17 Thread Ian Glendinning
Hi folks, We spent a fair bit of time on MD debating what is art during Grayson Perry's Reeth Lectures last year. http://www.psybertron.org/?s=reith+perry Obviously anything CAN BE art, but not anything IS art. Depends on things like care, craft and purpose from the creator side. And context,

Re: [MD] Art fine art

2014-05-17 Thread Ant McWatt
Ian, Please don't worry too much about butting in here as long as you have some substantive comments to make which is certainly the case in your last post (pasted below).  Thanks also for the link to your Perry article which I wasn't aware of until reading your last post.  I will certainly

[MD] The art of (.........)

2014-05-17 Thread Ron Kulp
Jc in response to Ron's assertion that martial arts helped him with being in the moment: Lol. Yeah, every once in a while there's nothing like a karate chop upside the head, to help kids learn how to behave. I took San Soo Kung Fu, for a couple of years but it didn't influence my child

Re: [MD] The art of (.........)

2014-05-17 Thread John Carl
Ron, On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Ron Kulp xa...@rocketmail.com wrote: Jc in response to Ron's assertion that martial arts helped him with being in the moment: Lol. Yeah, every once in a while there's nothing like a karate chop upside the head, to help kids learn how to behave.

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-17 Thread John Carl
Ant, Is being a professor all about knowing your subject and criticizing others? Or do you ever have a creative insight of your own? I'm sure we'd all appreciate some quality insights from you instead of this hostility. But maybe, after all, you can't help it The Church of Reason, like

Re: [MD] The art of (.........)

2014-05-17 Thread Ron Kulp
Wel being passive aggressive will get you that sometimes. On May 17, 2014, at 5:50 PM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote: Ron, On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Ron Kulp xa...@rocketmail.com wrote: Jc in response to Ron's assertion that martial arts helped him with being

Re: [MD] John Carl

2014-05-17 Thread John Carl
(I said I was gonna shut up, but a couple things changed my mind and #1 on the list is that going off in a snit, takes all the fun out of dialogue and people deserve to be entertained) Ant, Before you get further up on your high horse than you already are, let me explain a few things that you

Re: [MD] The art of (.........)

2014-05-17 Thread John Carl
ok, sure. I agree but don't you have to admit that if you are forced into aggression, the passive sort makes the most sense? energy/efficiency-wise, Part of MY teacher's teaching, was that peace is always better than war. But if it has to be war ... On 5/17/14, Ron Kulp xa...@rocketmail.com

Re: [MD] Post-Intellectualism

2014-05-17 Thread Dan Glover
John, On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:38 AM, John Carl ridgecoy...@gmail.com wrote: Dan, Dan: I think one of the lessons of ZMM is that anything can be seen as art... the title of the book is indicative of that. Most people don't think of grease monkeys as artists, but they can be. So no, it