[mou-net] Buff-breasted Sandpipers at Jirik Sod Farm

2010-07-26 Thread Steve Weston
Last night (Sunday) at about 8pm I checked out Jirik Sod Farms in Empire Township east of Farmington in central Dakota County (Blaine Ave (CR79) south of 200th St. (CR66). I found Killdeer, Pectoral Sandpipers, both Yellowlegs, Solitary Sandpiper, Baird's, Semi-palmated Sandpiper, and five Buf

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread linda whyte
I am not, nor ever have been anti-hunting (and yes, I buy duck stamps, support the Nature Conservancy, etc.). I was dismayed that the decision seemed not open to a discussion, or at least a well-publicized presentation, of rationale for the decision (other than "other states do it".) Like Richard,

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Stefanie Moss
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. I would guess that indeed most birders would oppose a crane hunt and- would like a public process to express their opinion as well as to ask questions regarding the hunt. As residents and tax payers, I believe they are entitled to expect as much. In mu

[mou-net] crane season--how about some answers DNR?

2010-07-26 Thread Robert P Russell
Personally I think the DNR has lost a lot of birder and outdoor folks' support for trying to ramrod this hunting proposal through the process without a series of statewide series of hearings. Those are not just birds that live in Roseau or Kittson Counties. Many of those birds are Mississippi

Re: [mou-net] Northern Bobwhite in Hennepin County

2010-07-26 Thread Manley Olson
Your birds were escapes from a game farm or managed private hunting area. There have been no wild Bobwhites in the metro area for many years. Manley Olson On 7/26/2010 7:23 PM, Ben Sandstrom wrote: This afternoon at Crow-Hassan Park Reserve in northern Hennepin County I observed one Northern Bo

[mou-net] Northern Bobwhite in Hennepin County

2010-07-26 Thread Ben Sandstrom
This afternoon at Crow-Hassan Park Reserve in northern Hennepin County I observed one Northern Bobwhite, and probably spooked two others nearby that I only heard rustling in the vegetation. In the grassland east of Prairie Lake I heard a Bobwhite calling, but couldn't see it, so I started walki

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Bernard P. Friel
The process is for among other matters to share information and to ally any concerns, reasonable or unreasonable that someone might have regarding impacts on populations. Furthermore if our science is as unassailable as has been suggested, we wouldn't be cleaning up the Gulf. -- Bernard P. Friel M

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Harrold
Richard has asked a legitimate question in my opinion. I don't know where the bulk of the breeding sites are relative to the path that migratory birds might take. Do the breeding individuals leave prior to the migrants coming through? I don't know...just another relevant question in terms of pro

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Harrold
I don't buy the notion that MOST birders objecting to the crane season on this forum are doing so because of perceived circumvention of the process by the DNR. Do they really think the DNR would propose a season or set bag limits that would seriously threaten breeding crane populations? I think

[mou-net] buff-breasted sandpipers relocated in chisago county

2010-07-26 Thread leslie marcus
At about 10:30am this morning, I was able to relocate the buff-breasted sandpipers in North Branch, Chisago County, as reported by Doug Kieser yesterday (July 25). They have moved from the north side of the road at 400th Street, 0.6 miles east of Hemingway Ave., to the south side of the road in

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Bernard P. Friel
I'm with you Liz. I Too thought the discussion was about process. -- Bernard P. Friel Member: North American Nature Photography Association American Society of Picture Professionals International Society of Aviation Photography The Explorers Club Web Pages - http://www.wampy.co

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Liz Stanley
I must have missed the part of the discussion that was anti-hunting. I thought the issue at hand was the lack of an open process for the decision made by the DNR. Discussing problems with the process, and debating the end result of it are two different things. > Folks, >   > Do yourselves and more

Re: [mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Stevan Hawkins
Eric: Or people could buy Federal Duck Stamps http://www.fws.gov/duckstamps/Info/Stamps/stampinfo.htm#benefit , according to which " Since 1934, the sales of Federal Duck Stamps have generated more than $750 million, which has been used to help purchase or lease over 5.3 million acres of waterfow

Re: [mou-net] Chimney Swift Sit - 2010

2010-07-26 Thread Amy Blake
I would really like to participate in this study, but do not have time to research an area to sit at. I am currently located in Eagan, MN with no vehicle, but can get to most places in the Metro Area via bus or bicycle. If anyone has a spot that they know of that someone could count at, please

[mou-net] Lac Qui Parle County Shorebirds

2010-07-26 Thread Vacek, Curt (DNR)
In partnership with Ducks Unlimited, the DNR recently installed a pump on Cory Lake in the Hamlin Wildlife Management Area. The pump has been operating since the end of May, and there are ~ 100 acres of exposed mud flats (and increasing daily). Of course, this is a magnet for shorebirds and t

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Larry Sirvio
The hunt is not state-wide. It is in 6 counties in NW Minnesota. That is where the cranes from Canada migrate. If cranes nested in those counties they could be shot. For the rest of the state - the cranes are safe :)) - Original Message - From: "Richard Wood" To: Sent: Monday, July

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Wood
And how does a hunter know the difference? Richard From: Larry Sirvio To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 12:32:19 PM Subject: Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes One last point. The population of cranes that is proposed for hunting is a migrator

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Richard Wood
The poll is also on an "outdoor" web site. What is going to stop someone from shooting Whooping Cranes and then claim they "thought" they were Sandhills, ala that guy in Texas? Richard From: jaxi To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 9:55:57 AM

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Larry Sirvio
Laura and others. I don't think it is as simple as your email comment makes it seem. For example, I know that once upon a time the DNR (along with private organization contributions as well as non-game funds) created Lamprey Pass WMA. As I remember, Caroll Henderson was promoting this in order

Re: [mou-net] article from Audubon MN

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Harrold
This kind of focus is EXACTLY why my dollars go to the American Bird Conservancy and NOT Audubon...   Eric Harrold --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Gail Wieberdink wrote: From: Gail Wieberdink Subject: [mou-net] article from Audubon MN To: MOU-NET@LISTS.UMN.EDU Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 10:50 AM I g

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Rob Daves
Thanks to Wes and Gail about the posts on the crane "poll." But I think it's appropriate to voice a word of caution about what these numbers represent. As a survey methodologist and market research consultant, I can tell you that this is not a scientific survey taken with a probability sample o

[mou-net] More wasted birder energy focused on a hunting issue (SHCR)

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Harrold
Folks,   Do yourselves and more importantly bird conservation a lot of good by finding something more biologically meaningful to focus on rather than whether 5 or 10 Sandhill Cranes are going to be killed by hunters in Minnesota during a crane season. This is the kind of thing that makes folks l

[mou-net] article from Audubon MN

2010-07-26 Thread Gail Wieberdink
I got this from the Audubon page on Facebook: http://mn.audubon.org/news-events/audubon-minnesota-blasts-dnr-handling-crane-hunt Probably falling on deaf ears, though. Gail Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Laura Erickson
Can anyone find out how much of the DNR's Non-Game Wildlife Program funds have gone to projects that have contributed to the increase of Sandhill Cranes? Laura Erickson For the love, understanding, and protection of birds There is symbolic as well as actual beauty in the migration of birds. Th

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread jaxi
Currently ... yes 95 41% no 138 59% You voted: no On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 8:34 AM, Wes Bailey wrote: > As of 08:32 am poll now showing 51% in favor, 53% opposed to sandhill > crane hunt. > > Wes Bailey > Grand Rapids, MN > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Gail Wieberdink wrote: >> Here is a

[mou-net] Chimney Swift Sit - 2010

2010-07-26 Thread Claudia Egelhoff
Once again it is time for the Chimney Swift Sit here in Minnesota. The two designated counting periods are August 6-9 and August 27-30. Use the next two weeks to scout sites being used by roosting swifts and you will be ready to go the first weekend in August. The Chimney Swift Sit involves find

Re: [mou-net] June 10, 2010 proposed rule in FR (no. 9 sandhill crane)

2010-07-26 Thread Wes Bailey
FYI - for those interested in reading text on the sandhill crane hunt in the Federal Register. Federal Register Proposed Rules: June 10, 2010 (Volume 75, Number 111) Full text found here: http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2010/2010-13956.htm There is a public comment section in the document, but it i

Re: [mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Wes Bailey
As of 08:32 am poll now showing 51% in favor, 53% opposed to sandhill crane hunt. Wes Bailey Grand Rapids, MN On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Gail Wieberdink wrote: > Here is a link to a poll regarding the hunting of sandhill cranes. > > > http://outdoornews.com/minnesota/ > > > Right now the p

[mou-net] hunting of cranes

2010-07-26 Thread Gail Wieberdink
Here is a link to a poll regarding the hunting of sandhill cranes. http://outdoornews.com/minnesota/ Right now the poll is showing many in favor. Gail Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html