Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Bundy
Brian Heinrich typed: Christian Biesinger wrote: Bundy wrote: [java under windows] 1 file under windows? Name it. NPOJI610.DLL And you've found that file just using the JRE? I tried on several occasions, with several JREs, and was only ever to find it using the J2SDK 1.4.0,

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Christian Biesinger
Bundy wrote: Someone brought up a point, why doesn't Mozilla simply put the latest version of the java file in the plugin directory during installation? Well, this might be due to licensing issues... And, of course, Mozilla is not meant for end users. It's a vendor's job to package plugins

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Christian Biesinger
Bundy wrote: Fault and fact don't always equal. The fact is, installing plug-ins for Mozilla takes a little bit of work. Well. Mozilla can't do anything against it. Note that Mozilla _is_ meant to be an easy to use product. [...] Mozilla is not meant to be an end-user product I didn't say

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Christian Biesinger
Brian Heinrich wrote: Christian Biesinger wrote: [java plugin for windows] NPOJI610.DLL And you've found that file just using the JRE? $ ls /mnt/c/Programme/JavaSoft/jre/1.4/bin/NPOJI* /mnt/c/Programme/JavaSoft/jre/1.4/bin/NPOJI610.dll As you can clearly see, this is a JRE, version 1.4.

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Brian Heinrich
Christian Biesinger wrote: Brian Heinrich wrote: Christian Biesinger wrote: [java plugin for windows] NPOJI610.DLL And you've found that file just using the JRE? $ ls /mnt/c/Programme/JavaSoft/jre/1.4/bin/NPOJI* /mnt/c/Programme/JavaSoft/jre/1.4/bin/NPOJI610.dll As you can

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Gervase Markham
Someone brought up a point, why doesn't Mozilla simply put the latest version of the java file in the plugin directory during installation? Well, this might be due to licensing issues... And, of course, Mozilla is not meant for end users. It's a vendor's job to package plugins with the

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-14 Thread Bamm Gabriana
We won't discuss the other plug-ins. To Mozilla's defense, it's not meant to be an easy to use end user product. Are you saying it's Mozilla's fault if the plugin's installation program doesn't install correctly in Mozilla? Note that Mozilla _is_ meant to be an easy to use product. I

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Bundy
Till typed: nf wrote in message ... Question: I've been considering upgrading from my Netscape 6.2.1 to Mozilla .99 for the speed improvements that I have been hearing about. 1) Is it as stable / problem free as my current Netscape installation? 2) Can I still access my Netscape WebMail

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Christian Biesinger
Bundy wrote: [Mozilla vs Netscape 6.x] 1) It is more problem free... kind of... To get Java and plug-ins to work takes a little bit of effort. (moving files, and a few .js file tweaks) I never needed to change a .js file to install Java, I only had to copy (Windows) or symlink (linux) 1

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread nf
Garth Wallace wrote: nf wrote: Question: I've been considering upgrading from my Netscape 6.2.1 to Mozilla .99 for the speed improvements that I have been hearing about. 1) Is it as stable / problem free as my current Netscape installation? Yes. 2) Can I still access my

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Bundy
Christian Biesinger typed: Bundy wrote: [Mozilla vs Netscape 6.x] 1) It is more problem free... kind of... To get Java and plug-ins to work takes a little bit of effort. (moving files, and a few .js file tweaks) I never needed to change a .js file to install Java, I only had to copy

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Christian Biesinger
Bundy wrote: [java under windows] 1 file under windows? Name it. NPOJI610.DLL Netscape 6.2.1 requires zero file transfers to get Java working. That's because it's installed using the installer. Note that the XPI file for installing Java has also always worked when I tried, though the

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Eric
hi kyle, or should i call you Netscape Basher, or Bundy? Man, you go by many names You've got to know exactly what files in what directory and transfer to them to the current directory under Mozilla same thing for IE, i once did a clean install of XP Pro, and for some reason only

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Bamm Gabriana
We won't discuss the other plug-ins. To Mozilla's defense, it's not meant to be an easy to use end user product. Are you saying it's Mozilla's fault if the plugin's installation program doesn't install correctly in Mozilla? Note that Mozilla _is_ meant to be an easy to use product. I

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Garth Wallace
Bamm Gabriana wrote: We won't discuss the other plug-ins. To Mozilla's defense, it's not meant to be an easy to use end user product. Are you saying it's Mozilla's fault if the plugin's installation program doesn't install correctly in Mozilla? Note that Mozilla _is_ meant to be an easy to use

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Bundy
Bamm Gabriana typed: We won't discuss the other plug-ins. To Mozilla's defense, it's not meant to be an easy to use end user product. Are you saying it's Mozilla's fault if the plugin's installation program doesn't install correctly in Mozilla? Fault and fact don't always equal. The fact is,

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-13 Thread Brian Heinrich
Christian Biesinger wrote: Bundy wrote: [java under windows] 1 file under windows? Name it. NPOJI610.DLL And you've found that file just using the JRE? I tried on several occasions, with several JREs, and was only ever to find it using the J2SDK 1.4.0, much to my annoyance. If

Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-12 Thread nf
I've been considering upgrading from my Netscape 6.2.1 to Mozilla .99 for the speed improvements that I have been hearing about. 1) Is it as stable / problem free as my current Netscape installation? 2) Can I still access my Netscape WebMail account with it? (Important) 3) Is jumping from

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-12 Thread Till
nf wrote in message ... Question: I've been considering upgrading from my Netscape 6.2.1 to Mozilla .99 for the speed improvements that I have been hearing about. 1) Is it as stable / problem free as my current Netscape installation? 2) Can I still access my Netscape WebMail account with

Re: Considering Mozilla upgrade from Netscape

2002-03-12 Thread Garth Wallace
nf wrote: Question: I've been considering upgrading from my Netscape 6.2.1 to Mozilla .99 for the speed improvements that I have been hearing about. 1) Is it as stable / problem free as my current Netscape installation? Yes. 2) Can I still access my Netscape WebMail account with it?