>
> In reply to Robert Hegemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>> Second: With some (usually high) bitrates, LAME seems to mangle the
> >>> bitstream. The effect is usually to hear short bursts of garbage in the
> >>> left channel, but it seems to depend on the input file as well as the
> >>> bitrate.
In reply to Robert Hegemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>> Second: With some (usually high) bitrates, LAME seems to mangle the
>>> bitstream. The effect is usually to hear short bursts of garbage in the
>>> left channel, but it seems to depend on the input file as well as the
>>> bitrate. Not all frame
::
:: another thing that does not work:
::
:: lame -b640 --freeformat -g fatboy.wav fatboy.mp3
:: fatal error. MAXFRAMESIZE not large enough.
::
:: in mpg123.h MAXFRAMESIZE is defined as 1792, but a 32 kHz 640 kps MP3
:: consists of 2880 bytes per frame (2090 at
> > I'm not surprised, considering you are probably only the 3rd
> > person to ever use freeformat :-)
>
> first is Mark, who is the second person?
Not the second, but, I find free-format *really* useful.
However, I am using it for very *low* bitrates.
ie: 8 to 32.
Owen
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Mark Taylor schrieb am Die, 26 Sep 2000:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I now have free format working in my decoder, MAD. If anyone would like to try
> > it -- get version 0.11.4b or later:
> >
> > ftp://ftp.mars.org/pub/mpeg/
Thanks Rob, great!
> > So far it seems to work with any free form
> Hi all,
>
> I now have free format working in my decoder, MAD. If anyone would like to try
> it -- get version 0.11.4b or later:
>
> ftp://ftp.mars.org/pub/mpeg/
>
> So far it seems to work with any free format bitrate I've created with LAME,
> all the way up to 640 kbps.
>
> The real r
Hi all,
I now have free format working in my decoder, MAD. If anyone would like to try
it -- get version 0.11.4b or later:
ftp://ftp.mars.org/pub/mpeg/
So far it seems to work with any free format bitrate I've created with LAME,
all the way up to 640 kbps.
The real reason I'm writing, thou
> > BIT_RATE = 1 means free format.
>
> This seems kinda confusing -- why use 1 to indicate free when MPEG uses 0?
0 is for 'reserved' (I'm not responsible of this part of the code).
> > I've checked the file in hexadecimal, and sometimes I get
> > frame header at 202 bytes from the previous i
CTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Free Format problem
> If sample_freq < 32khz, samples per frame = 576 (not 1152)!
>
> This the the so-called 'LSF' extension of MPEG:
>
> 32khz - 48khz: MPEG1 Layer 3 1152 samples per frame
Howdy Steve,
In case Mark's reply didn't adequately solve your problem:
> I'd like to know your point of view on the "Free format" that
> lame generates.
> I've created a free format file with 'lame --freeformat -b 62
> file.au". I'm using lame 3.86beta on Win32 compiled locally
> using MinGW32
Ok, thanks for the info Mark.
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Free format
>
> > From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> &
> From: "David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 18:42:28 +0200
>
> ok i'm asking again :)
> what is freeformat ? (the point of it, why i should/should not use it
> compared to "normal" mp3 ...)
it is a fixed, but arbritrary bitrate. No reason to use it
unless you want an exact bit
Mark> Winamp/Nitrane does not support free format. mpg123 itself does not
Mark> support free format, but Naoki and I added free format support
Mark> to LAME's version of mpg123/mpglib, so 'lame --decode' and
Mark> 'in_mpg123.dll' should handle it.
Mark>
Mark> Freeamp and l3dec can also handle f
ok i'm asking again :)
what is freeformat ? (the point of it, why i should/should not use it
compared to "normal" mp3 ...)
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> From: "Steve Lhomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:06:48 +0200
>
> I'd like to know your point of view on the "Free format" that lame generates.
> I've created a free format file with
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 06:40:53 -600 GMT
>
> >What is the point of free format ?
> >can winamp play it back ?
>
> Well, Winamp crashes when I try to feed him with a free format file (which is
> correct). It may be the input I'm using (in_mpg123.dll) . But it may be
>What is the point of free format ?
>can winamp play it back ?
Well, Winamp crashes when I try to feed him with a free format file (which is
correct). It may be the input I'm using (in_mpg123.dll) . But it may be Winamp,
I don't know.
The thing is that I want mp3_check to be as reliable as possi
What is the point of free format ?
can winamp play it back ?
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From: "Steve Lhomme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Free format
Doh !!!
Sorry for the lame quest
I'd like to know your point of view on the "Free format" that lame generates.
I've created a free format file with 'lame --freeformat -b 62 file.au". I'm using lame
3.86beta on Win32 compiled locally using MinGW32 with Libsndfile and full speed
optimization (all I found usefull in the GCC doc).
On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 11:13:32PM +0200, Steve Lhomme wrote:
> Doh !!!
> Sorry for the lame question ;)
*groan*
Bill
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Doh !!!
Sorry for the lame question ;)
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MP3 ENCODER] Free format
> > I'd like to find a free format encoded
> I'd like to find a free format encoded file.
> Does anyone of you know where I could find one or an encoder that support
free
> format (also known as free bitrate) ?
>
lame --freeformat -b yourbitrate in.wav out.mp3
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I'd like to find a free format encoded file.
Does anyone of you know where I could find one or an encoder that support free
format (also known as free bitrate) ?
thx
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Hi, All!
>> Under windows, the results are the following:
>> Winamp 2.6, new in-mpg123 for winamp, Nad 0.93, Sonique 1.51,
>> AudioActive 1.93b, K-Jofol 0.6, Digideck 0.82, Winplay3 2.3,
>> ActiveMovie/MediaPlayer 6.4, Xing MPEG player : all failed (quite
>> disappointing)
RH> Beside freeam
Gabriel Bouvigne schrieb am Son, 07 Mai 2000:
> > The ISO spec says that free format bitstreams are limited
> > to 320kbs, but lame will allow you to specify any bitrate over 8kbs.
> > (lame prints warnings when using freeformat)
> >
> According to my ISO doc (section 2.4.2.3), for layer III, deco
[...]
>As Gaby pointed out, it says the "decoder is not requires to support..."
>which doesnt say they are invalid MP3 files :-)
Hey, btw, I just tested free-format with mpega.library and AmigaAMP's internal
decoder (FhG licensed), and both failed miserably. :/
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> > According to my ISO doc (section 2.4.2.3), for layer III, decoders are
not
> required to support higher free format higher than 320kbps. So free format
> is not restricted to <=320kbps.
> > And decoders must support free format at least up to 320k.
>
> My ISO 13818-3 documentation : Section 2
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> According to my ISO doc (section 2.4.2.3), for layer III, decoders are not
required to support higher free format higher than 320kbps. So free format
is not restricted to <=320kbps.
> And decoders must support free format at least up to 320k.
My ISO 13818-3 documentation : Section 2.4.2.3
"The
>
> > The ISO spec says that free format bitstreams are limited
> > to 320kbs, but lame will allow you to specify any bitrate over 8kbs.
> > (lame prints warnings when using freeformat)
> >
> According to my ISO doc (section 2.4.2.3), for layer III, decoders are not
> required to support higher
Gabriel> Winamp 2.6, new in-mpg123 for winamp, Nad 0.93, Sonique 1.51, AudioActive
Gabriel> 1.93b, K-Jofol 0.6, Digideck 0.82, Winplay3 2.3, ActiveMovie/MediaPlayer
Gabriel> 6.4, Xing MPEG player : all failed (quite disappointing)
Sorry, next version of in_mpg123 will support free format bitst
> The ISO spec says that free format bitstreams are limited
> to 320kbs, but lame will allow you to specify any bitrate over 8kbs.
> (lame prints warnings when using freeformat)
>
According to my ISO doc (section 2.4.2.3), for layer III, decoders are not
required to support higher free format hig
AFIR you are not allowd to use VBR with free format. However, is that
another part of the standard lame can ignore (via option)?
It might simplify VBR if we 'threw out' the bir resviour and just used
free format frames.
On Sat, 6 May 2000, Mark Taylor wrote:
> >
> > Mark Taylor wrote:
> >
>
Mark Taylor schrieb am Sam, 06 Mai 2000:
> I created them with the new "--freeformat" option in LAME :-)
>
> freeamp and "lame --decode" both seem to play them back correctly,
> but that is the only testing I've done.
>
> The ISO spec says that free format bitstreams are limited
> to 320kbs, but
>
> Mark Taylor wrote:
>
> > Latest version of lame, in CVS, should now decode free format bitstreams.
>
> Where did you find free format bitstreams to test?
>
> Regards,
>
I created them with the new "--freeformat" option in LAME :-)
freeamp and "lame --decode" both seem to play them back
Mark Taylor wrote:
> Latest version of lame, in CVS, should now decode free format bitstreams.
Where did you find free format bitstreams to test?
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Latest version of lame, in CVS, should now decode free format bitstreams.
I still dont understand why I got stuck on this, but for some reason I
was just compelled to get this working, even though it took many days
longer than I wanted to spend on it and there are not too many
free format bitstr
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