All this talk about poor ignorant immigrants coming to
a strange land well all that may be true for many but
Omar came from Canada and was attending college in the
U.S. I have to believe he understood and tried to scam
his way in to stay in the U.S.He was caught and found
guilty, if he was concerne
I am really confused about this.
On 1/8/05 8:10 PM, "Barbara Lickness" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Omar Jamal and his wife and children will be paying a
> VERY high price for the crimes he committed. It will
> deny them U.S. immigration and eventual citizenship.
> This situation will throw thei
Jennifer Rubenzer
Plymouth
wrote
There is no courage in lying! And I can't believe you would assert that
there is! A lie is a cowards way of avoiding conflict and confrontation
when they know they can't get the better of the situation. It's not the
sign of a "good" man - it's the sign of a 'w
If Jamal is deported, it will be the country he left; Canada. There
currently is a federal injunction preventing the deportation of anyone back
to Somalia. See St. Paul Pioneer Press
http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/10594906.htm.
In order to stir a debate on ethical standard of leaders
Mr. Kaplan should be very proud of his father lying on his immigration
application in the 1920s in order to be able to apply for Social Security
benefits early.
Since Social Security was not created until ten years later, Mr. Kaplan's
father is the first documented case of clairvoyance in the hist
Omar Jamal and his wife and children will be paying a
VERY high price for the crimes he committed. It will
deny them U.S. immigration and eventual citizenship.
This situation will throw their immediate future into
chaos for awhile.
I think it is pretty obvious that gaining immigrant or
citizen st
There is no courage in lying! And I can't believe you would assert that there
is! A lie is a cowards way of avoiding conflict and confrontation when they
know they can't get the better of the situation. It's not the sign of a "good"
man - it's the sign of a 'weak' man.
Jennifer Rubenzer
Ply
Eli Kaplan wrote:
> I found it interesting this subject on lying to immigration.
> How many people who feel that it was wrong have asks their
> forebears who came to this country whether or not they lied
> to get it. I found out that my father had lied when he entered
> this country bac
If JFK or Paul Wellstone were to be resurrected and
take on the job of reforming the MPS they'd also
be seen as being brash and pushy. Doing what needs
to be done is going to alienate a lot of people. There
are two general classes of managers: task oriented
and people oriented. You cannot come
We're drifting into national debates & topics. This list exists to focus on
Minneapolis issues.
Here are some examples of comments that should be kept off-list. You know
who you are. Those of you carrying a warning, be extremely careful.
" Keep in mind that we are paying more than ever to ... avo
David A. Greene wrote:
There will always be a place for
cars, buses, LRT, etc.
We will always need personal vehicles. We will always need bikeways.
We will always need sidewalks.
Careful, here. I could start advocating for horses and mules as personal
transit. Or elephants and camels. Or
Victoria Heller wrote:
A very large number of people, even in Minneapolis, do not want to become
dependent on government - for anything. I'm included in this group because
I find that government services cost way too much, end up hiring too many
people with puffy paychecks and pensions, and ultima
Here is something to keep in mind as Listmembers fantasize about transit
modes that you can't afford, at least for the next several years.
A very large number of people, even in Minneapolis, do not want to become
dependent on government - for anything. I'm included in this group because
I find
Great point, Eli. We're pretty sure that most of my ancestors came from
Ireland; my and my family's physical characteristics would make it hard
to argue otherwise. But it is hard to trace exact roots because, as my
Dad explained to me, "not all of our ancestors wanted to be traced, and
some o
In a recent post I said that Commissioner Young gave a vociferous apology
for the rude conduct of the Park Board when it told some members of the public
to leave the reception after the annual meeting. I chose the wrong adjective.
Vociferous implies loud, or strident or vehement insistence.
Forwarded to the list from Ken Avidor:
Steve Nelson wrote this on the list:
"PLEASE PEOPLE START DOING YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU
SPOUT OFF ON A SUBJECT YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT
RESEARCHED."
Since Zimmermann is the expert on PRT...gives all
those PowerPoint presentations... maybe he could be
coaxed
I found it interesting this subject on lying to immigration. How many
people who feel that it was wrong have asks their forebears who came to this
country whether or not they lied to get it. I found out that my father had
lied when he entered this country back in the 20's. Why? Because he lied
On Jan 8, 2005, at 9:49 AM, Steve Nelson wrote:
PLEASE PEOPLE START DOING YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE YOU SPOUT OFF ON A
SUBJECT YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY NOT RESEARCHED.
It's hard to do homework on a subject that is near-fantasy-land and
when it's proponents get crazy whenever someone questions something!
St
Gregory Reinhardt asks...
> ...Should
> the lies of a "good" man be forgiven while the lies of a "bad"
> man are fully
> prosecuted? Does a person's "good' intentions trump the fact that one has
> uttered a lie, let alone five? Does Minneapolis need more
> leaders who have
> the courage to lie t
Since I'm the one that originally voiced such astonishment over this issue,
I'll say one more thing, using David's story as the springboard.
To my way of thinking, David's story is the way this sort of thing should be
handled, be it a fire pit or leaf blower. Like has already been said, we
already
Jim Mork
Cooper
wrote
Sometimes I need a reminder of why I live
here and not elsewhere. And the core reason is that
"here" just has better people. Something about
my city (and I've been here nearly 40 years so I can
use the "my" legitimately) attracts and holds people
with better minds and value
Jamal's conviction really is a very simple issue that is being obfuscated by
a few of his supporters.
While it is true that politicians lie and the media lies and police lie and
we all lie, all to some extent, we can only be responsible for our own
behavior. Lying on an immigration form or to an i
Jim Mork
Cooper
Wrote
Am I imagining it or is someone actually suggesting
PRT can be "door to door"? I thought these pods were
to be guided along rails raised above the streets. How
can such a thing be anymore "door to door" than any
other public mode of transit?
I suggest you attend one of the op
Greg Reinhardt
Excelsior
wrote
> Should the lies of a "good" man be forgiven while the lies of a "bad" man
are fully
prosecuted? Does a person's "good' intentions trump the fact that one has
uttered a lie, let alone five?
It appears that if you lie big enough you get to be re-elected President.
Greg Luce writes:
> Have consumer and community-oriented efforts been given a chance to work?
> For example, uniting certain neighborhoods or block groups around the
issue
> and coming up with a plan short of an ordinance. Perhaps enacting a
> 'ban'--though unenforceable-- in your neighborhood an
Good story and example. I do wonder if the fact that David's wife is an
attorney influences any response or lack of response from neighbors who are
provided with a copy of 'the law.' I've been amazed at times at the aura of
power that is attributed to attorneys--whether justified or not. Just a
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