Unfortunately Michelle, what you've illustrated is the lack of attention to
detail or perhaps even laziness on the part of some of the FORMER staff of the
Empowerment Zone. What you'll notice at the bottom of that document is the
year 2003, which is when the Small Grants program was
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When the community asked for Empowerment Zone money to create jobs and
opportunities CP Samuels vetoed them, after giving them letters of support.
Michelle,
While I will not be entering the debate on who is a better candidate, Don or
Natalie, as I like and respect
Michelle,
I think that either someone is providing you with incorrect information or
you may have the Empowerment Zone confused with some other program. The Small
Grants program does not go to the City Council for approval. By City
requirement, allocations over $50K have to be done
Jim and List,
I had meant this as good-natured ribbing to someone who I've agreed with at
times and disagreed with at other times, but always with at least my
understanding that it was intellectual sparring and never an attempt to malign
him. My intent was never to overpersonalize or in any
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Criticizing someone for failing to condemn someone's else's behavior is a
form of guilt by association frequently used by right-wing blogs to imply,
for example, that all liberals secretly support Saddam Hussein (while else
would they have failed to condemn
Ahh, Jim. I have missed the opportunity to discuss and debate with someone
of your caliber. You are probably the only person on the forum who writes
longer and denser posts than me (or at least run equal to) and it's always a
joy to exchange thoughts, especially when you're wrong. I did,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I don't think John Delmonico owes anyone an apology. He is speaking the
truth as he sees it.
No, what he is doing is utilizing a tragedy that is fresh in the minds of
Minneapolitans to further Peter's campaign agenda. It is the type of cheap
theatric and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jonathan you obviously didn't read the press release very carefully. The
federation DID NOT endorse Peter McLaughlin. If they had the press release
would have most certainly read Minneapolis Police Federation endorses Peter
McLaughlin. It said Anyone but Rybak. That
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
At times it seems as though more police would be needed. However, more
police would not be needed if the infrastructure of the area were more
economically sound. Or if the city’s empowerment zone would allow dollars to
those
wishing to start their own businesses,
Michelle,
It is an interesting tactic for someone who claims not to intend to start a
debate to pull in extraneous information (actually misinformation) in an
attempt to counter a point you disagree with. If your whole intent was
negating
outside influence, encouraging healing and
In a message dated 5/20/2005 8:51:34 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A young man apologizes for his comments and your response is to try to add
fuel to the fire. What does the NAACP have to do with whether what Mr.
Hodges or
Mr. Samuels said was wrong? I applaud that
In a message dated 5/16/2005 2:05:24 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have stated where I stand politically on previous posts. If the party
chooses to endorse a candidate I personally do not believe upholds my
personal values, I will not vote for them, in the primary
An element of conflict in any discussion is a very good thing, it shows that
everybody's taking part and nobody's being left out. I like that.
-Jimmy Stewart as Elwood P. Dowd in Harvey
This has been one of the most interesting discussions on this list in
awhile. And while I don't agree
Mark,
This is not a myth. Last year when I was working in Jordan, WCCO came out and
did an interview with one of our residents who had been collecting license
plates numbers for several months. They then ran those plate numbers through
the Dept of Public Safety, 70% came up with addresses
I think in order to be fair, it should be pointed out that it is not
accurate to say that anyone is getting a $30K raise based on the information
given.
The information presented is not a raise, but rather appears to be a change
in Grade which gives a change in salary range. Government
Okay, waitaminute, first the Smoking Ban is tantamount to Slavery and ethnic
cleansing of Native Americans, and now Peter McLaughlin is an unsung hero?
C'mon Jim, let's be real here. Heck, if that's the case, the Empowerment Zone
also put significant funding into Many Rivers (both phases)
The Jordan Area Community Council is seeking a dynamic individual to lead
the organization as its Executive Director.
POSITION CLOSES: December 17, 2004
POSITION:Executive Director
STARTING
HAVING A HEALTHY HOME
Come learn about the things to be aware of and what you can do to ensure
your home is as healthy as possible. Topics include:
-Indoor Air (Tobacco, radon, carbon monoxide, mold)
-Asbestos and Lead
-Building materials/techniques
Childcare and a light supper provided by
Jordan Neighborhood Open House and Community BBQ
Hosted by PPL
Sunday, November 7th @ 1:00 pm!
What: A chance to tour newly built homes that are for sale in Jordan and a
community BBQ open to all!
When: November 7th, 1:00 pm-4:00pm, rain or shine!
Where: 2305 James Avenue North kick off
At 10:15, I was the 607th voter in 4-4, and there were still people coming
in. 110 people in 45 minutes, not bad.
Jonathan Palmer
Victory
In a message dated 11/2/2004 10:22:59 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Total vote for the 2002 general election in 4-4 was 1431,
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/5033699.html
First off, let me say, Way to go MPD and any other agencies involved! A
couple of thoughts on this:
-I'd be surprised with the proximity if this wasn't connected to the traffic
in the neighborhoods bordering Lowry.
-It is interesting to
Reverend Jesse Jackson
Appearing on behalf of the
Kerry~Edwards
Presidential Campaign
North Community High School
1500 James Avenue North, Minneapolis
Saturday, October 16, 2004
6:00 PM
Please RSVP to 651-204-0430.
Sponsored by the MN Victory 2004 Coordinated Campaign
Jonathan Palmer
Just as a point of clarification, CM Samuels is a DFLer. I believe his wife
is even a precinct chair.
Jonathan Palmer
Victory
In a message dated 10/4/2004 12:03:11 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The push for a new election by Rep. Kahn's bill in the State
Well, actually no Robert it's not about a choice between drug offenders
(which incidentally is not exclusively the same as drug users but rather includes
drug dealers as well) and Level III sex offenders. Level IIIs are not being
release or compressed into impacted neighborhoods because of
The Jordan Area Community Council (JACC) will host its 40th Anniversary
Celebration on Saturday, September 18th in Jordan Park from 12pm-5pm.
Formed 40 years ago, JACC is the nonprofit, citizen participation
organization for North Minneapolis Jordan neighborhood. Its mission is to
organize
Well RT, might I suggest capping the night off with a late night/early
morning snack at Pizza Luce which with a 3:30am close is the latest restaurant open.
Voted Best Pizza and Best Late Night Dining (among other awards which can be
found at www.pizzaluce.com) the last four years in a row in
Another Mind-Blower!
Race and Public Policy: Finding Common Ground in an Uncommon Conversation
with Don Samuels
Minneapolis City Councilmember, Ward 3
The inability to have honest public conversations about race and public
policy priorities means that we often can't impact these very
You know Zack, for someone who says that there are clearly a number of
different ways that persons may serve their community, you spend a lot of time
attacking anyone who doesn't follow your path or do what you want them to. And
since you believe in the exposure of activities that are
In a message dated 5/11/2004 6:51:25 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
1. Your place is a public accommodation, and as such, has an obligation not
to
disciminate - against nonsmokers as much as a person of color, which I'm sure
you do not.
I've been staying on the sidelines
The Jordan Area Community Council, and Folwell Webber-Camden Neighborhood
Associations along with Hennepin County invite you to attend an important
community meeting and make your voice heard. Invite follows:
Before the Hennepin County Human Services 2005 Budget starts being shaped, we
need
The Jordan Area Community Council, and Folwell Webber-Camden Neighborhood
Associations along with Hennepin County invite you to attend an important
community meeting and make your voice heard. Invite follows:
Before the Hennepin County Human Services 2005 Budget starts being shaped, we
need
Okay, so let me get this straight. You, a candidate for school board and
champion of education, bring one book and one article that you wrote to the table
as reference? I don't think I've every written any report, or position paper
from only one source, but let's just go with yours because it
Booker,
Here''s the thing, you've made a lot of statements, but have not been able to
back them up, and don't seem to have a clear understanding of even the
accusations you've made. You say she's too connected to the establishment, but you
offer no proof or even examples. You say she's an
I can appreciate the fact that you can't support Jayne Khalifa without
knowing her qualifications better, but I think that's a good reason to remain
impartial and request or even insist on knowing the candidate better, it is not a
reason to organize against her, make unfounded accusations
I will ask you as I have Booker, what evidence you have for any of this?
What makes it an elite social club? How do you know this? What do they do that
you're defining as elite? What proof do you have for your assertions that it
joined forces to do anything? It would be real nice if those
In a message dated 4/26/2004 6:17:14 AM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Individuals endorsing my candidacy this year include Ron Edwards, former
chair and vice chair of the Minneapolis Civil Rights Commission for 16 years and
longest-serving president of the Minneapolis Urban
In a message dated 4/12/2004 10:12:12 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The mission of the MPRB is to provide a set of public services, and I agree
that such services should include clean waters and recreational programming.
But I contend that wi-fi supports that mission. As
I don't know if this is the reason why or not, but I sent an email to my Met
Council Rep (and I know at least one other who did this) and suggested that
since the strike was going on, the Transit Police could be helpful in patroling
bus line corridors with major safety issues, to support MPD
In a message dated 3/10/2004 1:14:00 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And that is where the true genius of H.F. 1829 comes in. Nobody on this
list has yet mentioned its most important provision, which is the creation of a
legal classification for non-violent drug offenders.
I find it a bit disconcerting when people allege misleading intentions either
intentionally or unintentionally do the same thing, convoluting the story and
adding emphasis and allusions that don't quite fit the facts. That's really
where you can find out what the truth is in most matters.
To
You know Margaret, I don't think I've seen anybody go through such lengths
not to simply come up with a suggestion or a plan as I've seen you do with this.
And since you felt it necessary to direct this at me, I'll respond.
First and foremost, if you really think that it's the job of City
Can anyone share ideas or experiences on how to overcome this far more
treacherous obstacle? I know folks in some neighborhoods like Whittier or Ventura
Village would say that neighborhoods like mine need to suck it up and take on
some of the load, but I don't think that kind of argument is
In celebration of Black History month come listen and learn from longtime
political activist and former Black Panther, and the only American to have ever
successfully self authored a civil/human rights case to the United Nations
Human Rights Committee (UNHRC), Larry Pinkney.
What:JACC
First off, let me say thank you Barb, because I think she did an excellent
job delineating the difference between a landlord and a slumlord. Her posts
encapsulates at least what I think of as the difference in many ways.
Bill:
How many people must you know before you acknowledge your demagogic
Wow Keith, we had the protest outside of Gregge Johnson's home 2 1/2 months
ago, maybe it's time to let go of the anger and live in the now. I had no
idea you were holding on to this for such a long time.
But just so that everyone's clear since you decided to make a tangential
point not
Dennis already covered just about everything that needed to be covered, but
there's a couple of corrections that should be made to your assertions.
First, in regards to your definition of slumlord, while Merriams is one of my
favorites and defines slumlord as you did, both the American Heritage
Dyna is unhappy, and very upset, in Hawthorne. Yet I do not here her using
demagogic language against others when describing the dynamic of her problem
neighborhood, and block. Remember THAT when you peruse her comments. She is
actually coping, and cool. Note Dennis's willingness to use
Forwarded on behalf of Don Samuels.
---BeginMessage---
I tried to send the pasted below to the issues list and not sure it went
thru. Can you post it for me just in case?
When the constitution of the United States was written, it became the
ultimate political document of all time. But it existed
Great dialogue and a great discussion. And though I do appreciate the Kudos
from Dennis, I have to put the reason for the success I've had in Jordan right
back on the residents as well as the people who work with us. All of it
comes down to team efforts.
And while the Hood may be utilized as
In the interest of proactive efforts, what do people know about resources and
opportunities where people can donate clothing, blankets, supplies, etc.
Just about any shelter or program will accept money, however, I have a case where
the building that houses my office couldn't get rid of the
MH:
Any time the reality of what has happened to those who have few resources but
still make the effort to struggle for democracy and fairness is pointed
outthose who protect the interests of the wealthy and powerful cry out--- Not
Nice, Not Fair.
Our last Mayor did resort to the police
MH:
Oh yeah, Don't want to start stereotyping rich folk. And certainly do not
want to point out their inherent class privilege. Let's just let them
continue to rub elbows both professionally, politically as they socialize to screw
over all of us working folks, people in poverty, children
I don't think it's inappropriate for me, when people are wondering, 'What are you
going to do about this?' to sketch out ideas, he told the Associated Press. This is
not some rash or Johnny-come-lately position. Sharing what we can do about these
events is a legitimate thing for me to do.
This Thursday, January 15th from 6:30pm - 8:30pm there will be a Hmong
Cultural Forum sponsored by the North Minneapolis Southeast Asian Initiative and the
Jordan Area Community Council.
Enjoy traditional Hmong: Food, dancing, martial arts, costumes, music (Hmong
flute), storytelling
Mark Anderson:
Well it's generally political skills, not management skills that results in
promotions. In any case, I'm talking about a higher level of management skills
than a even a good mid-level manager has. It's far from an easy task to
change the culture of a big city police force, or
I think Lubinski was equal - or better in qualifications to McManus.
This is one of the argument's I don't understand, and please post some links or info about this so that I and others can understand. Lubinksi is very qualified and has done a lot, but I don't understand how you and others have
So, Eva, asking questions and ascertaining veracity is now the same as
discrediting? You may want to read both my post and Mark's response a bit more
closely, especially since Mark responded that the links I posted was pretty much
what he had read and that it was admittedly pretty slim. Having
Wizard, you wrote a couple of things I wanted to respond to, so I've clipped
them below:
I think it's possible that each of those opposed may have a different
reason why they are opposed. One possibility is that they want to square off
against Rybak.
This is kind of the problem, the question
Discrediting wasn't the right word. Your post was expanding on Mark
Anderson's point about Street Cops - while avoiding his point about whether McManus
was an effective manager.
Well, Eva, what you've done is give me a ticket for littering because you
don't like how I drive. More and still,
I am assuming that this is a letter to the Council Members as it refers to
telephone conversations, but, as with much of the conversation centering around
the McManus nomination, I think it misses a key point, supporting or not
supporting McManus really has nothing to do with Lubinski or Gerold
In a message dated 1/1/2004 11:36:03 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dear Jonathan Palmer:
Executive Director, Jordan Area Community Council
Now that the New Year is upon us, can you and I put aside bridge rod issues,
for just a little while? I would like to ask you to give
MH:
I have informed the Mayor I will providing this update.
The Mayor and I have had dialogue and I have to respect that.
So, I will be outside the fundraiser (quietly and without banner) from at
least 6p.m. to 10p.m. to let people know the Mayor has responded and I have to
give that the
MH:
And, since I am not a person charged with making policy or creating
solutions for the City of Mpls, it probably would be more appropriate for people to
contact our elected officials to give them a piece of your mind and demands
solutions from them.
JP:
Very interesting point Margaret, I
Peter,
Thanks for your thoughtful response, although I disagree with you on a few
points. That's alright though, as you said, there's more than one way to skin a
cat, and it's good to have many opinions represented. Mark already said what
I would have to Chris, so I'll respond to your
MH:
The Plan (or at least my plan)
1) point out that it continues to be a consistent pattern for Mpls Mayors,
and other politicos, to largely ignore the needs of our residents experiencing
homelessness.
2) Consistently refute the claims of there not being enough money, r
esources, to address
MH:
I would encourage those who have stated they really want to work on ending
homelessness to join me at the Kaplan's and also at the Mayor's next open
house.
If you do not care for my style of addressing the social injustice of
homelessness, I would encourage you to contact the Minesota
In a message dated 12/21/2003 11:20:59 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
WM: But in the end, we still got another straight, white male. Ho and
then hum. I'm not impressed. This guy does not necessarily ever think
outside his privilege. There appears to be no reason for him to
MH:
Although I still plan to be at the Kaplan's for RT's fundraiser (attempting
to balance on the few inches of public land I can to keep me legal), I have
decided to give it a go again at the Mayor's open house that Erik his aide
referred to.
So, for those who would like to find out how my
I have made it clear that I would be just as happy with a post to the forum
just as much as a filmed interview with the Mayor.
I do think this question deserves an answer.
What also deserves an answer is what exactly do you want Margaret and what is
your agenda? I posed the the question on
Margaret,
I read your posts on the subject of homelessness over the last year with
great interest and I think it is an important issue. While this may sound coy, it
is meant as a serious question, and that is what do you want to be done?
Granted that if it was possible, we'd want everyone
While this is an interesting read, it is unfortunately not a policy position or
comprehensive. Interestingly enough, it says that Sex Offenders are free to live
wherever they want, but that moving outside of the jurisdiction of conviction can be
turned down, which seems a bit contradictory.
I don't think it's inappropriate for me, when people are wondering, 'What are you
going to do about this?' to sketch out ideas, he told the Associated Press. This is
not some rash or Johnny-come-lately position. Sharing what we can do about these
events is a legitimate thing for me to do.
In the interest of openness, I will mention that I am a plaintiff in the Kahn suit.
I joined this suit because I believethat a 3+year gap between adoption of the new
ward boundaries and elections congruent with those boundaries undermined the
intention of timely adoption and implementation
When the holidays come around, I tend to get a little sentimental; look back over the
year and think about forgiveness and changes for the new year. In a moment of this
this past weekend, I was honestly thinking, Maybe I've been too hard on Phyllis this
last year. Maybe I can invite her to
For Immediate Release
Friday, November 21, 2003, Minneapolis, MNThe Jordan Area Community Council (JACC)
along with Minneapolis Third Ward City Council Member Don Samuels announced today that
they will be picketing the private home of a Jordan neighborhood landlord, Mr. Gregge
Johnson of Elk
Dress up and make believe are fun during playtime, unfortunately, I expect a little
more from journalists in quality publications like City Pages, but maybe Britt Robson
has spoiled me.
Much like President Bush's aircraft landing, G.R. Anderson's latest articles seem to
lack the substance
Oops. It's been a long day. The signature should have said Victory instead of my
address (I also sent this into the CP, but doubt it'll see publication). Sorry for the
error people.
Jonathan Palmer
Victory
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Andy Driscoll wrote:
Jason is absolutely right. Black is the absence of color -
white is presence of all combined colors.
WM: This conundrum always makes me laugh at the ultimate stupidities we humans use to
get ourselves tangled. Caucasian denial is based in denial that white is the presence
Mark Anderson input:
Great post David. The rebuttals to your posting basically say Her motivation does so
matter! They seem to think the motivation is important in itself -- they don't
really care about the underlying issue of whether it's more fair to have an earlier
election or leave it be.
The obvious answer to both of these questioners is that this has not happened
before!
In past decades, there was a City Council election scheduled soon after the
redistricting process was done. That changed in the 90's when city voters changed the
City Charter to 4-year terms for Council
Post I sent yesterday that half of the people have emailed and said it came through in
gibberish:
Well, I appreciate Don's point of view, but have to respectively disagree. I don't
think that anyone is just fine with census ward lines, and to state so is a bit
misleading. There are two
Normally on Sunday morning I get my humor from the comics section, it's pretty funny
(Except for the Family Circus. I know it's a classic but there's only so many times
you can see a Not Me bit before you start wondering if the publisher lost a bet).
Yet this past Sunday I was treated to the
Well, I appreciate Don's point of view, but have to respectively disagree. I don't
think that anyone is just fine with census ward lines, and to state so is a bit
misleading. There are two general objections that those opposed to the redrawn maps
have: 1. That the lines were unfairly drawn
Well, I appreciate Don's point of view, but have to respectively disagree. I don't
think that anyone is just fine with census ward lines, and to state so is a bit
misleading. There are two general objections that those opposed to the redrawn maps
have: 1. That the lines were unfairly drawn
Okay.
I admit it.
It's me.
I speak for White people.
We had a Caucasian caucus on Confederate Memorial Day and I was elected emissary
because of my genetics. In the future I will try and make broad ranging statements
and try to be available when a comment needs to be made or questions
Went to an HBCU or just wish you did? Tired of waiting for the scores to come weeks
later? On a totally diversionary note, I discovered that MBC broadcasts top HBCU games
on the weekends. Tonight I watched Morehouse crush Clark Atlanta 48-33 at our
Homecoming game and then got to see FAMU's
Sorry, forgot to sign...
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Director
Jordan Area Community Council
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For state and
While I believe that we can never have enough resources for youth in our communities,
in the interest of perspective it should be noted that we actually have a teen center
here in Jordan, it's called the Boys and Girls Club, Jerry Gamble Branch. The Club is
located at 2410 Irving Avenue N.
Michelle,
Here's what I don't quite understand. How do you reconcile this statement:
No matter what you believe a person has done, they are still entitled to a fair
trial. We cannot allow a person to be made indefensible by accusations...
-[Mpls] Coddling the Criminals: CUAPB Statement on
Be Seen At The Bean Scene!
Don't forget, this weekend marks the Grand Opening of the Bean Scene, the only Coffee
House with a drive-thru that I'm aware of on the Northside and the only one of its
kind in the Jordan Neighborhood. They feature soups, sandwiches, smoothies, baked
goods, an
I'm so excited I neglected to include the location which is the corner of Penn Avenue
and West Broadway Avenue. So whether you need a quick charge before you get on the
highway to go to work (they've got drive-thru) or a relaxing place to hang out and
check your email. Be seen at the Bean
Tom,
This is a rather unfair and misleading transition from a general policy question
(which is actually incorrect) to an individual criticism (which borders on a personal
attack), and really comes off as framing it as the first in order to do the second.
If that's not your intention, you may
The rankings for Citysearch's Best of the Twin Cities Restaurants are in (http://twincities.citysearch.com/best/categories/2003/?cslink=cs_boc_nh_twincities)
and I'd like to highlight a few of my favorite restaurants which took top marks and invite y'all to do the same.
-Big E's Soul Food won
The rankings for Citysearch's Best of the Twin Cities Restaurants are in
(http://twincities.citysearch.com/best/categories/2003/?cslink=cs_boc_nh_twincities)
and I'd like to highlight a few of my favorite restaurants which took top marks and
invite y'all to do the same.
-Big E's Soul Food won
I would like to point out that some conclusions are being drawn that are neither the
facts nor were they contained in the article. First off, if you don't believe in
community service for minor violations than it won't matter debating, and you should
probably not even continue reading this
JACC Forum
6:30PM
Unity House, 2507 Fremont Avenue N
Third Thursday of Every Month (that's tonight folks)
Join us to talk about issues facing the neighborhood every month and meet your
neighbors.
This month's topic:
**The 2004 Minneapolis Budget presented by Mayor RT Rybak**
6:30pm -
It is rare that one gets an opportunity to correct misconceptions of history and
culture of this magnitude, and I believe just such misperceptions explain a piece of
the puzzle of why children of color, especially African Americans do as poorly as they
do within the system.
To begin with
If I can, I would like to clear up a couple of what seems like misconceptions
regarding the drug dealing, gangs, and solutions and ongoing efforts.
First an observation was made at a meeting this morning by someone else (who I will
leave nameless unless she wants to take credit) that I agree
Upcoming Events:
Friday, August 8, 2003
Abridged orientation and initial patrol with VJ Smith and MAD DADs 6:00pm at the
Jordan Community Garden, 26th Knox Aves. N
Tuesday, August 12, 2003
CCP/Safe Information Session with Luther Krueger and full orientation with Jonathan
Palmer, 6:00pm at
One of the messages that I and others have put out repeatedly is how much this is not just a Jordan problem or a Northside problem, but a City, County and State problem. Don started the ball rolling with his vigil, but he had a vision of a larger effort and RT, Mark Stenglein and Tim Pawlenty all
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