Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread David Shove
Used car salesmen are preferable to developers. Imagine how much more just, pleasant, democratic, and affordable life in the cities would be without them! Without them manipulating and diverting council and park board members, misusing TIF and eminent domain and taxes. Without their glossy songs

[Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread gemgram
Greg Luce writes: More and more, Minneapolis is pushing the poor out, rather than lifting the poor up. Granted, getting folks out of poverty is heavy lifting, but perhaps that explains why it's easier to shift people out. It is, by far, the most discouraging thing I've seen since I've lived

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
David wrote: Used car salesmen are preferable to developers. Dori: At least with car salesmen, you expect them to create an aura that will sell you the car and it becomes a game to the winner goes the spoils. With politics of late...some elected have become such controlling factors, the

[Mpls] Is it fraud or a boo boo? You decide.

2004-12-05 Thread Victoria Heller
I hope that there are a few people left in Minneapolis who haven't abandoned their principles to keep their property taxes low. Here's today's example: Former Council Members Minn and Cherryhomes prance into the MCDA with documents showing that their Stone Arch project is worth $33.5 million.

[Mpls] Leaving Minneapolis

2004-12-05 Thread Cathy Leighton
I have said it for some time now--To live in Minneapolis you are either going to have to be very rich or very poor. Unfortunately, I am neither. So I am finally leaving. Property taxes are high and getting higher. Water service, car insurance, home repairs, etc are all more expensive in

Re: [Mpls] Pinched in the Zipper on Hennepin

2004-12-05 Thread David Wilson
yYour logic is impecable. Very good explanation. But this is Minnesota. I think that self-rightousness is scored on the drivers test as a requirement though. David Wilson Loring Park On Sat, 4 Dec 2004, Dan Prozinski wrote: The logic of the zipper merge: - when all available lanes are

Re: [Mpls] Is it fraud or a boo boo? You decide.

2004-12-05 Thread Dorie Rae Gallagher
Vicky writes: I hope that there are a few people left in Minneapolis who haven't abandoned their principles to keep their property taxes low. Former Council Members Minn and Cherryhomes prance into the MCDA with documents showing that their Stone Arch project is worth $33.5 million. Of

Re: [Mpls] Car Sharing for the Twin Cities getting closer..

2004-12-05 Thread Mark Snyder
On 12/4/04 1:20 AM, Dyna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, the Taxpayer League argument against transit. And who's going to pay for the repair costs of the sedans, fuel costs and insurance? Buying a car is only one reason the poor don't have cars; operating costs are far bigger over time. And my

[Mpls] Property taxes and Mpls dysfunctional government.

2004-12-05 Thread Bill Cullen
Greg Luce wrote: More and more, Minneapolis is pushing the poor out, rather than lifting the poor up. Me: Amen Greg. Amen. Over the past few years, we have heard our leaders talk about the need for affordable housing. They have poured millions into housing projects across the city. The

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes and Mpls dysfunctional government.

2004-12-05 Thread David Brauer
Bill Cullen writes: It seems to me that the housing programs of Mpls created a) new, high priced housing and b) increased property taxes for existing housing. Not a successful model to help the poor or lower-middle income. snip We can do better. I think the strib is on to something here.

[Mpls] Pinched in the Zipper on Hennepin

2004-12-05 Thread Nathan Hunstad
As this relates to the example at Hennepin Avenue, the offended driver should join in. It's been used like this for years and more cars are allowed through the intersection with each light cycle... win/win. It may be win/win, but I am looking for some kind of official statement on whether this

[Mpls] Car Sharing for the Twin Cities getting closer..

2004-12-05 Thread Victoria Heller
Mark Snyder writes: Now consider that another feature of hOurCar is that businesses can sign up for this program rather than have to maintain their own stand-alone fleets and all of the various costs associated with them. Vicky adds: I hope the City of Minneapolis signs up immediately. The

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes and Mpls dysfunctional government.

2004-12-05 Thread KarenCollier
The Strib has a wonder series in their OpEd Section today which explains one of the reasons why property taxes in the city are so high. In addition, the series should give all of us food for thought. To even institute a small portion of their suggestions will take extremely strong

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE [Really CenterPoint price increase]

2004-12-05 Thread rpgoldman
MN == Michael Hohmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MN Dorothy J. TItus states, in part... ...And now Center Point Energy proposes a gas rate hike that will raise residential gas costs by 4% while raising business costs by only 1%. And this comes on top of gas prices that are

[Mpls] RE: Property Taxes in Minneapolis

2004-12-05 Thread Ray Marshall
I was told many years ago that Minneapolis had its own assessor because it wanted to be able to control the assessments of the expensive downtown properties. Only a very few people had access to those calculations. At that time, 1969, the most expensive house in Minneapolis was assessed at just

Re: [Mpls] Pinched in the Zipper on Hennepin

2004-12-05 Thread Rick Mons
Dan Prozinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The logic of the zipper merge: - when all available lanes are used, the traffic does not back up as far to the rear /snip/ all true benefits. Another one is the lower likelihood of stutter-start (I think traffic engineers have another more technical

[Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread rpgoldman
Seems like we've got two strands of outrage going on simultaneously: taxpayers, particularly business owners, complaining about how much city waste there is; and others complaining that the city is not doing enough to get services to the poor. Maybe the fact that there's outrage from both sides

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread Rick Mons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is that the suburbs and exurbs are already dumping their social problems into the cities for us to pay for. It's not clear to me how suburbs dump their social problems into the cities for (city taxpayers) to pay for. Can you provide some examples? I

[Mpls] RE: Who's in charge? The Strib is, apparently. (Charles Gimon)

2004-12-05 Thread WJKAHN
All I can say is that I'm glad someone is stepping forward on the issue. As a student of urban and regional planning in California, the sometime policy abberations charged to competition between chartered cities versus those whose form is dictated by the state legislature are instructive:

[Mpls] Restaurant LRT connections

2004-12-05 Thread Phyllis Kahn
I am taking a biking group I belong to (now hiking between the biking and skiing seasons) on the LRT and to lunch. Can anyone suggest restaurant locations within a reasonable walk of the line? Cedar riverside area? These are mainly suburban upper crust women and I don't want to hit the Mall for

[Mpls] RE: [Really CenterPoint price increase]

2004-12-05 Thread Michael Hohmann
Per Robert Goldman's comments below: It's complicated, but pretty logical, yet not entirely obvious. I'll try to keep it simple. If interested, read on... otherwise move on, you'll be bored or lost. They recoup their costs through a mixture of fixed price + per-therm charges. I don't think

[mpls] Strib article and the state of the city

2004-12-05 Thread Elizabeth Wielinski
There have been many posts lately about IRV, at- large representation vs. wards or districts etc.. I am not so sure that any of these changes will fix anything. The city has an at-large school board and most of the school board members live in the areas that, low and behold did not get

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread WizardMarks
David Shove wrote: Used car salesmen are preferable to developers. WM: From your mouth to god's ears. One city assessor wants the car dealers off Lake St. because there are developers ready to buy. And there are. We, the people who live close to Lake St.--a mile each direction--still buy our

[Mpls] designer voting schemes -- at-large council members

2004-12-05 Thread David Weinlick
On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 11:00 AM, Anderson Turpin wrote: I think the advantage of geographic proximity of council members is vastly over-rated. In the almost 30 years I've lived in Minneapolis, I have never once even known the location of any of my district representatives' homes.

RE: [mpls] Strib article and the state of the city

2004-12-05 Thread David Brauer
Liz Wielinski writes: -Original Message- The city has an at-large school board and most of the school board members live in the areas that, low and behold did not get school closings. While I don't think there was a quid pro quo, the school board's at-large structure invites such

[Mpls] Cedar-Riverside narratives needed.

2004-12-05 Thread List Manager
Forwarded at the request of the sender... Students in a public history course being taught at the University are working on some projects related to the history of the Cedar Riverside area. They are trying to fill in some gaps in the more recent history (50's through the 90's) of the

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread WizardMarks
gemgram wrote: The City has the Sears building and opportunities for outside development of the site. WM: I sat in on the meetings with the Chicago Lake Design Review Committee for years and every single developer who came along wanted city money one way or another. It was made a TIF area as

Re: [mpls] Strib article and the state of the city

2004-12-05 Thread Andy Driscoll
I take serious issue with David Brauer on the subject of split representation for elected boards and councils. Neither all-ward or all at-large local policy bodies are a good thing. Whether the Mayor should preside over a city council of this size in a city of this size is questionable, but I'm

[Mpls] This Week in The Minneapolis Observer

2004-12-05 Thread Craig Cox
CITY WILL MAKE THE CALL ON SNOW EMERGENCIES Next time the city declares a snow emergency, you're going to hear about it in a phone call. SCIENTIST REBUFFED BY MPCA WILL SPEAK HERE JAN. 22 Professor Tyrone Hayes, the University of California-Berkeley endocrinologist whose views on agricultural

RE: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property

2004-12-05 Thread Nick Frank
Rick Mons said: This is the first I've read that the suburbs have social problems that are somehow transferred to the cities I think this refers to the fact that most suburban governments/constituents won't allow social services and affordable housing to be located in their cities through the

Re: [Mpls] Property taxes for homestead property must INCREASE

2004-12-05 Thread Dyna
The current attempt by the Taxcheater's League and their Republican Lackies in the Legislature and the Governor's Mansion to take all progressivity out of the property tax system is the latest in a long history of broken promises. Remember 40 acres and a mule, treaties, and the massive land