RE: [Mpls] Closures

2005-01-17 Thread Michael Atherton
y would wait until noon to decide that it was too unsafe to have classes (after everyone had already driven in). With decisions like this the Park Board is its own best argument for a Parks Department. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Think a member has violated the rules?

RE: [Mpls] Wenonah closing article in the Strib

2005-01-18 Thread Michael Atherton
ildren in Minneapolis? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll! Ignor

RE: [Mpls] Stone Arch Apartments - Affordable to who?

2005-01-20 Thread Michael Atherton
sity, or sense of responsibility at all and in reality, the only requirement is that they do indeed "show up." Which leaves the rest of us who are too busy working and rising children at the mercy of their "decisions." Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1.

RE: [Mpls] Bike issue

2005-01-20 Thread Michael Atherton
m behind parked vehicles Interesting, I have seen the same behaviors exhibited by both pedestrians and vehicle drivers. There seems to be a general lack of respect for traffic regulations in Minneapolis. The reason such behavior exists is simple: lack of enforcement. Michael Atherto

RE: [Mpls] Stone Arch Apartments - Affordable to who?

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Atherton
(as it was in other cities) and that, if there ever was a housing shortage, it doesn't exist anymore. And, being in an extremely cynical phase, I currently don't see city politics as much more than the process of determining who gets to milk the city cow. Michael Atherton Prospect Park

RE: [Mpls] traffic violations

2005-01-21 Thread Michael Atherton
ts review: "With Cameras on the Corner, Your Ticket Is in the Mail" http://tech2.nytimes.com/mem/technology/techreview.html?oref=login&res=9C00E7DE1039F935A35752C0A9639C8B63 If you hurry you might be able to access this before it goes into the archives (you will have to register howe

RE: [Mpls] Politicking and the NRP...Wake up and smell the deficits!

2005-01-24 Thread Michael Atherton
that required documentation exists, it doesn't confirm the accuracy of that documentation. The NRP orders full audits of contractors only when there serious doubts. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If

RE: [Mpls] NRP - Accounting

2005-01-24 Thread Michael Atherton
thout full audits in Phase I? If the NRP has tight accounting procedures then this figure should be readily available. Thanks. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the

RE: [Mpls] School Choice: Minneapolis

2005-01-25 Thread Michael Atherton
ptions offered though the public schools. To each his own. :-) Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing

RE: [Mpls] NRP - Accounting

2005-01-25 Thread Michael Atherton
Michael Atherton wrote: > If I understand this correctly, then contractors who receive > less than $50,000 a year do not receive full audits, THEN > what is the dollar amount of funds that have been released > without full audits in Phase I? If the NRP has tight accounting >

RE: [Mpls] School Choice: Minneapolis

2005-01-29 Thread Michael Atherton
ifth grade (a good sign), but still far below the level I would accept before sending my child to school there. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list mana

RE: [Mpls] School Choice: Minneapolis

2005-01-29 Thread Michael Atherton
numbers, changing it from a 51% failure to graduate in four years rate to a 47% never graduate rate). Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at

RE: [Mpls] School Choice: Minneapolis

2005-01-30 Thread Michael Atherton
ng students to the next grade regardless of whether they've mastered necessary skills). This policy guarantees a high dropout rate. As I said, parents may be responsible for a student's success, but the schools are responsible for their failure. Michael Atherton Prospect Park

RE: [Mpls] School Choice: Minneapolis

2005-01-30 Thread Michael Atherton
s actually > ready to meet the demands of kindergarten. This is an essential tool > that the Mpls schools use, I think, very effectively to let staff and > parents know if the kids will be ready for school when the year begins. > I'm glad the district requires it. It's n

[Mpls] Police Cameras Deluxe

2005-01-31 Thread Michael Atherton
picture it'd provide better protection than a gun. Ok, it's such a great idea that everyone has already thought of it... right? Or, there are some major pit falls that I haven't considered (such as cell phone bandwidth, etc.). Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be

[Mpls] Mpls Featured in NYT 36 Hours

2005-02-11 Thread Michael Atherton
In Minneapolis By NEAL KARLEN (NYT) http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/11/travel/escapes/11HOUR.html? ACCORDING to the ethos of that strange breed of stolid souls who choose to live in Minneapolis in January, Duncan Graham, a fur trader for the Hudson's Bay Company, was probably just a whiner

[Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-13 Thread Michael Atherton
eform the whole system so that all children in Minneapolis can be successful. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before c

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-13 Thread Michael Atherton
by falsely placing the blame on parents or poverty. It's the schools that are responsible for this failure, not the parents and not poverty. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is i

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-14 Thread Michael Atherton
the Capitol If you haven't figured it out yet: money is not the problem. It's yet another rationalization for public school failure. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-14 Thread Michael Atherton
find a good statistical analysis of the reasons for their success, but maybe this is the school district that Pawlenty and Peebles should be visiting. ;-) I've been trying to get the Star Tribune to do an article on public school successes for years, I wonder why they've

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-15 Thread Michael Atherton
hether they result in improvements...just in case it turns out to be untrue. If Mr. Cross' assumption is false, then failing to take action accomplishes nothing, other than the perpetuation of an unjust system. I believe that I've already provided enough evidence to show that there a

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Atherton
nd reoccur annually; they are an enormous expenditure. Just consider what it would cost to add a year or two of preschool nationally. A program that I actually support, but don't believe that the American public is willing to pay for (just imagine the sticker shock). Michael Atherton Prosp

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Atherton
unities for success. Prompting the MPS to narrow the acheivement gap though educational and institutional reforms does not necessitate the rooting out of racist behavior. I would just hope that White parents realize that there is implicit racism in the way that the District functions and that th

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Atherton
owledge and learning. Final point, no matter how ravaged a culture is from it's traditions, there is still a culture even if it is one of a defeated people. The important question here is how do we address the problem of Black and Indian American cultures lack of emphasis and support

RE: [Mpls] Doug Grow's Mythology

2005-02-17 Thread Michael Atherton
#x27;t think that our city crime and murder rates are related to this issue you're in for a surprise. And unless we face up to it rationally, it's not going to go away. So go ahead and suspend me. I have other work to do anyway. Sometimes difficult things have to be said, regard

RE: [Mpls] A Real Minneapolis Problem

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Atherton
blems. If you assume a light changes every two minutes and tickets cost $200 then over the course of a downtown workday one camera could generate $1,500,000 (a little optimistic, but even $10,000 a day would be great). I'm all for it. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civi

RE: [Mpls] Not A Real Minneapolis Problem

2005-02-22 Thread Michael Atherton
all the ways to die, I'd rather not die in an auto accident because of someone else's need to shave a minute off their commute. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, c

RE: [Mpls] Red Light Cameras CAUSE Injuries

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Atherton
it. Sure, I can look both ways on Green lights. I can ask for side airbags as an option when I buy a car. I can check the crash ratings and choose accordingly, but I still don't want some jackass coming through the passenger door at 45mph and crushing my four year old. Michael Atherton P

RE: [Mpls] Red Light Cameras CAUSE Injuries

2005-02-23 Thread Michael Atherton
een mugged, but I think that it has more to do with its statistical infrequence than whether I'm a tough guy or not. I know plenty of tough guys who've been robbed and I know plenty of good drivers who've been in auto accidents. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be c

RE: [Mpls] Red Light Cameras CAUSE Injuries

2005-02-24 Thread Michael Atherton
wondering if using cameras to ticket > red light runners would apply to bicycles as well as motor vehicles? I think they should, but I'm not sure if the technology can process bicycles. It might be hard to pick up the registration sticker, if there even was one. :-) If they could, then

RE: [Mpls] RE: Wireless Minneapolis

2005-02-24 Thread Michael Atherton
t; and it's going to be subsidized by the government then it should provide these benefits for everyone, not just those who can afford computers and software. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you t

RE: [Mpls] Cell phone stats

2005-02-25 Thread Michael Atherton
in an Jag; two of them were naked and the other in some stage of undress) and this was before the days of cell phones. If I remember correctly CA had a law that allowed officers to ticket people for such behavior; for the risky driving that is. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1.

RE: [Mpls] Ban the word Ban

2005-02-26 Thread Michael Atherton
e less radical about driving safety if Minnesotans were more inclined to take responsibility for avoiding behavior that puts their fellow citizens at risk, but from what I've seen people here arrogantly deny any responsibility for avoiding driving habits that put others at risk. When injurious be

RE: [Mpls] Ban the word Ban

2005-02-27 Thread Michael Atherton
onsible drivers running the Stop sign in front of our house. We would have to make an extended effort to find a bar or restaurant where we would be subjected to secondhand smoke. Conscientious participation in drug-use, prostitution, gay marriage and other consensual behaviors also has no i

RE: [Mpls] Caucuses

2005-03-02 Thread Michael Atherton
election as California does? Caucuses seem about as truly representational as the NRP. :-| Well, I guess I might have answered my own question. "Power to the fewest!" Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/r

RE: [Mpls] Caucuses

2005-03-02 Thread Michael Atherton
Steve Cross, speaking as one of the few, wrote: > Michael Atherton said: > > "what are the objections to letting all party members select > nominees through a general election as California does?" > > Actually, we do exactly that. It's called a &qu

RE: [Mpls] Personal Rapid Transit

2005-03-03 Thread Michael Atherton
of others. I strongly agree. This is an outrageously stupid idea combining the worst features of both automobiles and rapid-transit. It might, however, work as an unpopular ride for Disneyland. In fact, I think they already have something similar (no waiting lines). Michael Atherton Prospect

RE: [Mpls] Personal Rapid Transit

2005-03-04 Thread Michael Atherton
mention many of the outer suburbanites who commute to downtown. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the

RE: [Mpls] Smoking Ban

2005-03-05 Thread Michael Atherton
ices you are limiting them. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the troll!

RE: [Mpls] More cops? How many? How will you fund them?

2005-03-06 Thread Michael Atherton
ment. Don't forget our 47% high school dropout rate and lack of quality vocational programs. This is not to say that you cannot reduce the amount of drug violence through intelligent policing, but don't expect the probably to go away. Only by eliminating the Drug Prohibition laws will yo

[Mpls] Tax Relief for Guard Members?

2005-03-08 Thread Michael Atherton
There's an article in the NYT today, "State Taxpayers Providing Relief to Military Families." http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/national/08tax.html I was wondering if there exists or is any discussion of providing Minneapolis property tax relief for Guard members serving in

RE: [Mpls] Smoking Ban

2005-03-08 Thread Michael Atherton
establishment. To expect to able to come in and demand that everyone stop smoking because you find it offensive, is in my opinion, extremely arrogant and officious. There are lots of things that I find offensive in American society, but unless they put me or my family at risk I don't believ

RE: [Mpls] Smoking Ban

2005-03-08 Thread Michael Atherton
class as other drugs such > as cocaine and heroin. I just don't understand how anti-smoking activists can be so worried about the questionable effects of secondhand smoke 20 or 30 years in the future, but seems unconcerned about the far more immediate risks of irresponsible driving.

RE: [Mpls] Ward 2 Rules Committee meeting

2005-03-09 Thread Michael Atherton
t; and many have said rightly so. Well now it looks like the caucus is going to be run by those who show up ... and are a little faster on their feet. Go students! I'm most likely voting Green away. ;-) It's not about involvement, it's about control. Michael Atherton Prospect P

RE: [Mpls] Smoking Ban

2005-03-09 Thread Michael Atherton
nting adults that don't impact anyone but themselves. Using your rational Public Health can be used to ban almost anything. Playing the religion card is a weak ploy, but probably plays pretty well in Minneapolis. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read t

RE: [Mpls] The long sobs of the violins (of the DFL machineparticularly in PP)

2005-03-10 Thread Michael Atherton
other than > DFL-endorsed candidates? The ones they endorse themselves...like Councilmember Zerby? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL

RE: [Mpls] Smoking Ban

2005-03-11 Thread Michael Atherton
eath secondhand smoke anymore, except in some prisons. (Why aren't anti-smoking activists trying to have smoking there banned?) I really don't want you protecting me from my vices. I'm an adult and I can choose which businesses I want to frequent and I already don't frequent

RE: [Mpls] NO DISRESPECT INTENDED.....

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Atherton
y programs in favor of keeping class sizes small (an ineffectual program intended to make the public at large happy). Why aren't American Americans outraged? Have you forgotten that one of the major objectives of the civil rights movement was access to quality education? Why aren't p

RE: [Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on the wrongpage

2005-03-12 Thread Michael Atherton
PPERRIA to be, but I don't think I'll get it. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the li

RE: [Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on thewrongpage

2005-03-13 Thread Michael Atherton
housing. To suggest anything > else was going on is just mean spirited. Years ago someone gave me a rule to live by that has served me well, "Don't listen to what people say, pay attention to what they do." If these housing sweeps were anything but a meaningless exercise in polit

RE: [Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on thewrongpage

2005-03-13 Thread Michael Atherton
detectors twice annually, i.e. they have to have someone enter the unit and push the test button on each smoke detector and change batteries. What we need are real solutions to real problems, not hat tricks that give the appearance of sensitivity and concern sufficient only to soothe the l

RE: [Mpls] Part 2. The violins continue to sob but play on

2005-03-14 Thread Michael Atherton
at I do believe that governments should have a role in promoting the General Welfare: http://www.tc.umn.edu/~athe0007/mypoliticalphilosophy.html If you find any inconsistencies please let me know. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.

RE: [Mpls] Missing in Minneapolis

2005-03-24 Thread Michael Atherton
we do as a family in our own city are MacPhail, Van Cleve Park, and the U's family swim program. Most of our time is spent in St. Paul or the suburbs. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a

RE: [Mpls] Missing in Minneapolis

2005-03-24 Thread Michael Atherton
s for the children's. Michael Atherton Prospect Park > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Vecoli > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:53 PM > To: mpls@mnforum.org > Subject: RE: [Mpls] Missing in Minneapo

RE: [Mpls] Missing the point as well as the children

2005-03-25 Thread Michael Atherton
e need the "correct" percentages of old and young people? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the lis

RE: [Mpls] Missing in Minneapolis - Kids Activites

2005-03-31 Thread Michael Atherton
e I place more emphasis on Math and Science doesn't mean that I don't have an understanding or appreciation of the arts. Why is this such an obtuse concept? I'm just irked that with all the Parks spending and the (Ugly! What were they thinking?) Downtown Library (SE is a dark

RE: [Mpls] Missing in Minneapolis - Kids Activites

2005-04-01 Thread Michael Atherton
o > little snow. Not to mention that they close their outdoor facilities when it gets too cold! ;-) Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager a

RE: [Mpls] Smoking ban night 2

2005-04-02 Thread Michael Atherton
people had tightened immigration laws four hundred years ago). There is a popular mythology that follows Rousseau's concept of the natural man that assumes that Native Americans lived peacefully before they were corrupted by the evil influences of the White man. It is just a myth.

RE: [Mpls] The PARKS - Kids Activites FOUND

2005-04-02 Thread Michael Atherton
too much to ask for the $3000+ in taxes that we contribute to the city. I would hope that out of her responsibility as an elected official, that Ms. Young would at least explain why the Park Board does not appear to be interested in providing the kind of service that I am requesting rather than su

RE: [Mpls] Smoking ban night 2

2005-04-03 Thread Michael Atherton
hat it should be legal if customers are clearly informed of the risks. If for some strange reason people want to suffer a solid dose of salmonella that should be their decision as long as the dangers are clear. On the other hand, the Firestone/Explorer fiasco should have resulted in criminal cha

RE: [Mpls] Mis-readings of history...being careful.

2005-04-04 Thread Michael Atherton
ve American history or literature, I'd suggest watching "Black Robe." Or to see that the problems of subjugated peoples are not local to North America try watching, "Once Were Warriors." Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at

RE: [Mpls] City Hall Flag

2005-04-05 Thread Michael Atherton
er the flag? The City Council? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the list. 2. Don't feed the

RE: [Mpls] 'Citizen Participation' still a myth; 'Activist Participation' not...

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Atherton
cides how to spend my tax dollars in my own neighborhood. Case in point (and inherent NRP problem). Bill Kahn posts the following to the List > Michael Atherton wrote: "The Children's Museum moved to St. Paul." > > Bill Kahn corrects: > > The Children's Museu

RE: [Mpls] City Hall flag - send your checks

2005-04-06 Thread Michael Atherton
#x27;re sending in your checks for "pro-choice" you might want to consider the State ACLU Branch: www.aclu-mn.org, which is also having a Benefit at the (smoke-free) Minneapolis Convention Center. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www

RE: [Mpls] 'Citizen Participation' still a myth; 'Activist Participation' not...

2005-04-07 Thread Michael Atherton
IA Annual Meeting (the most well attended of the year with numerous misinformed PPERRIA members) they voted to rescind our request of the city. We could have gone on calling Special Meetings and having our motions rescinded for months. Paul Zerby now admits that PPERRIA should have allowed rea

RE: [Mpls] 'Citizen Participation' still a myth; 'Activist Participation' not..

2005-04-07 Thread Michael Atherton
I have > apologized for my ignorance; Oh? I wasn't aware of it. Is it on the List? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL

RE: [Mpls] 'Citizen Participation' still a myth; 'Activist Participation'not...

2005-04-08 Thread Michael Atherton
of all of his prior > posts provide adequate reason to disregard everything he has to say. Ah, here's the Disgruntled Employee Spin again. As usual Mr. Cross fails to detail his accusations and says that you should judge the veracity of my statements based on my "tone."

RE: [Mpls] Re: smoke or drink

2005-04-09 Thread Michael Atherton
s between it and the anti-smoking campaign, then America really is at risk and not from secondhand smoke or the gay community. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, conta

RE: [Mpls] Re: smoke or drink

2005-04-09 Thread Michael Atherton
cing your values on others. Once again, I can make a similar argument, as do the smoking ban advocates, as to why you and your children should be forced to eat lean meat. Both arguments will have similar flaws. People should have the right to make their own choices as long they don't dire

[Mpls] Mpls Politics

2005-04-10 Thread Michael Atherton
t Minneapolis politics is more about pushing opponents out of the spotlight of liberal grace, that it is about providing rational foundations for their policies. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a

RE: [Mpls] Rape/Minneapolis

2005-04-16 Thread Michael Atherton
atistics are artificially inflated by miscatorization, giving the impression that rape is more prevalent than it is. Statistical misrepresentation has been a part of the Feminist campaign to force changes in rules of evidence and rape statues. I think that this is especially true in Minne

RE: [Mpls] Rape/Minneapolis

2005-04-16 Thread Michael Atherton
use they are doesn't justify inflating the statistics by including other types of sexual assaults that we would not normally consider to be rape. I would also point out that people's opinions on these issues is often misused as a litmus test for cultural sensitivity and political correctnes

RE: [Mpls] Rape on U of M Minneapolis campus

2005-04-17 Thread Michael Atherton
ng women and girls > by disgusting names and slang for body parts are also bullying > and done just because, in this society, it has been acceptable > behavior for males. That rather enlarges the number of potential > rapists because these are all bullying behaviors, even if > a

RE: [Mpls] City ethics board: Rybak doesn't have to pay back taxpayers

2005-04-19 Thread Michael Atherton
hat it would help his campaign more than the $42,556. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the lis

RE: [Mpls] Stop blaming marijuana for violence

2005-04-27 Thread Michael Atherton
the top of your head, rather than talking values. You're far more likely to say something that's logically inconsistent. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, co

RE: [Mpls] Stop blaming marijuana for violence

2005-04-28 Thread Michael Atherton
consumes the lives and futures of minority youth, while White middle class youths go on to become mayors of major American cities. Chris Johnson wrote: > By all means, fight for marijuana legalization. Just stop > buying it in gang-afflicted neighborhoods of Minneapolis. > Otherwise,

RE: [Mpls] Drugs in Minneapolis/What's a Mayor to do?

2005-04-29 Thread Michael Atherton
ug use, given the state of public health in many third world countries. Note: I believe that immigration is an important and integral component of American society and that one of the most negative outcomes of 9/11 was the reduction of the number of student visas. Michael Atherton Prospect Park

RE: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?

2005-04-30 Thread Michael Atherton
etro) and it would be just as efficacious and ineffective of a public safety strategy, i.e. it would have no impact whatsoever. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, co

RE: [Mpls] Hood Pot Market to relocate DT; RT hopes gang violence abates; Hardcore Commute?

2005-04-30 Thread Michael Atherton
7;t need to imprison me to try and force me to conform to yours." Translates to: If I'm not hurting anyone, then please have the decency to leave me alone. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you thi

RE: [Mpls] Stop blaming marijuana for violence

2005-05-01 Thread Michael Atherton
should be cognizant of the link between the 47% high school dropout rate and the crime rate. I think that Mr. Plante's example is an important reason why. We should start with habilitation, not incarceraton and then rehabilitation. Michael Atherton Prospect Park Note: In my

RE: [Mpls] U of M Survey finds that students are in support of thesmoking ban

2005-05-03 Thread Michael Atherton
x27;t lend greater importance to their moral imperative. Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact the list manager at [EMAIL PROTECTED] before continuing it on the

RE: [Mpls] Minneapolis skyscraper valuations up

2005-05-05 Thread Michael Atherton
I'd really like to see the growth curves for the city's revenue and dept. Does anyone know where to find them? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is in violation, contact

RE: [Mpls] Skyscraper valuations going up

2005-05-05 Thread Michael Atherton
iver. I thought that the title of the post was "Skyscraper valuations going up." ;-) I think that the most important question is the relationship between the revenue and debt curves. Do you have an answer? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RU

RE: [Mpls] Saturday Night Live joke on Minneapolis

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Atherton
ulate the former the latter is > in danger too. I'd tend to agree that regulating panhandlers might be a violation of free speech, but the interesting question is whether panhandling is a commercial activity. What do you think? Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be ci

RE: [Mpls] Saturday Night Live joke on Minneapolis

2005-05-09 Thread Michael Atherton
;t political speech have even greater protection? Not that that many panhandlers are collecting political donations, but they could be. :-) Michael Atherton Prospect Park REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at http://www.e-democracy.org/rules. If you think a member is i

RE: [Mpls] Saturday Night Live joke on Minneapolis

2005-05-10 Thread Michael Atherton
coming and then asking people to help finance your farewell party. In one case money changes hands and in the other it doesn't I am still undecided as to whether a monetary exchange can be classified as an act of speech or "free" expression, but I'll need a stronger argument to

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