Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-17 Thread Steven Cook
To: "A discussion list for music-related DSP" Subject: Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia? No, it was my doing that the paragraphs had the synth name as their first word(s). We don't have "the" or "a/an" i

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-16 Thread Nigel Redmon
I agree Olli—it was much worst before—the article was painful to read. (And as I said, this is nitpicking.) There's nothing wrong with have just the name first—it just needs a bit of change to keep it that way and make it grammatically correct. I didn't change it right away when I read it becau

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-16 Thread Olli Niemitalo
No, it was my doing that the paragraphs had the synth name as their first word(s). We don't have "the" or "a/an" in the Finnish language, so I'm not always sure if they are needed, like in front of names (of synthesizers) here. But I'm going to claim that most of that text looked even worse before.

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-16 Thread Thomas Young
c-dsp@music.columbia.edu Subject: Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia? On 1/16/12 1:16 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: > Nice improvements. > > This may seem like nitpicking, but the "Timeline of additive synthesizers" > section

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-16 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/16/12 1:16 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Nice improvements. This may seem like nitpicking, but the "Timeline of additive synthesizers" section seems to choose keeping the instrument name as the start of the sentence over proper grammar. For instance: Hammond organ, invented in 1934[26], is

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-15 Thread Nigel Redmon
Nice improvements. This may seem like nitpicking, but the "Timeline of additive synthesizers" section seems to choose keeping the instrument name as the start of the sentence over proper grammar. For instance: Hammond organ, invented in 1934[26], is an electronic organ that uses nine drawbar

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
hey, i appreciate the help from folks here (namely Olli and Ross) dropping in on that Wikipedia article, now that it has been released from protection. please don't go away, there is lotsa stuff to do and we have time to do it. it appears that this editor who wanted to rewrite everything a

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-11 Thread Nigel Redmon
Hi Tom, The wikipedia entry was: "Very similar to C and C++, but the ''while loop'' could also have been written on one line:" As I said, this implies that that it couldn't be done in one line in C/C++, and it can. So, I'd say that the original writer was incorrect. And again, so you think th

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-11 Thread Richard Dobson
On 11/01/2012 12:25, Tom Molesworth wrote: .. $factorial *= $counter-- while $counter > 0; and as such is not the same as this: while($counter > 0) { $factorial *= $counter-- } Hang on a mo - this really depends on the definition of "statement" in the two languages. And, how long a line i

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-11 Thread Tom Molesworth
On 11/01/12 06:45, Nigel Redmon wrote: Just to get my fingertips wet again, I "fixed" something trivial that I had commented on over two years ago: One of the simplest things you could imagine, an article on the "while loop" construct in programming. There were examples in many computer languag

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread Nigel Redmon
Ah, that (the RMI using Walsh functions) sounds familiar...I remember Bernie Hutchins (Electronotes) did some articles back in the 70's on Walsh functions...it also reminds me of having fun back in the 70's when I figured out I could run my analog sequencers at audio rates and get some cool tone

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread Nigel Redmon
I've long treated wikipedia as a useful tool that I reference often, and trust about as far as I can throw the internet. That is, it's good for getting a quick look at many things, as long as you understand that anything that has the slightest chance of involving a point of view will be bias, a

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/10/12 11:29 PM, Scott Nordlund wrote: On January 9, 2012 at 3:02:04 PM Veronica Merryfield veronica.merryfield@shaw.cawrote:> My feel is that to make it right, it probably needs more than a bit of adjustment. If this is to be fixed, I think it needs to be an organized effort. I scan down

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread Scott Nordlund
> On January 9, 2012 at 3:02:04 PM Veronica Merryfield > veronica.merryfield@shaw.cawrote:> > My feel is that to make it right, it probably needs more than a bit of > adjustment. If this is to be fixed, I think it needs to be an organized effort. I scan down the page and see all the things wron

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/10/12 9:31 PM, Alen Koebel wrote: I get paid to write, so I'm no stranger to research. I have edited the work of others and had my work edited. Many here can say the same, I'm sure. With that background I have tried to edit articles on Wikipedia. IMO, Wikipedia is fundamentally a bad idea

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread Alen Koebel
I get paid to write, so I'm no stranger to research. I have edited the work of others and had my work edited. Many here can say the same, I'm sure. With that background I have tried to edit articles on Wikipedia. IMO, Wikipedia is fundamentally a bad idea. Trying to rescue it is a fool's errand.

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread Alen Koebel
On January 9, 2012 at 3:02:04 PM Veronica Merryfield veronica.merryfield@shaw.cawrote: > The Synergy was also an FM machine and could do everything the DX-7 could do > just it wasn't packaged or priced that way. I would say, in fact, that the Synergy was _primarily_ an "FM" machine. One of

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread Veronica Merryfield
On 2012-01-09, at 8:58 AM, Scott Nordlund wrote: > The thing that bugs me about the RMI Harmonic Synthesizer part is that I've > seen the schematic. It doesn't do that (though the Keyboard Computer models > probably do). The Harmonic Synthesizer uses Walsh functions. Resistor > networks mix th

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/9/12 11:58 AM, Scott Nordlund wrote: I looked at it a bit, and it's a lot to juggle, looking at diffs and the back and forth. Maybe it's just getting late, and I played a lot of basketball earlier, but the final thing that told me "it's bed time" was, in skimming the article, "Its [RMI] wa

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread Scott Nordlund
> I looked at it a bit, and it's a lot to juggle, looking at diffs and the back > and forth. Maybe it's just getting late, and I played a lot of basketball > earlier, but the final thing that told me "it's bed time" was, in skimming > the article, "Its [RMI] waveforms were calculated beforehand

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/9/12 11:00 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if all of the knowledge embodied in this list could find its way into Wikipedia, fixing the howlers and myths that exist in some of the audio, synthesis, effects, computer music, etc pages? I know that some of us have at time cont

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread Victor Lazzarini
Wouldn't it be nice if all of the knowledge embodied in this list could find its way into Wikipedia, fixing the howlers and myths that exist in some of the audio, synthesis, effects, computer music, etc pages? I know that some of us have at time contributed, but it would be a nice community proj

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread Nigel Redmon
Hi Robert, Care to narrow down the target (I suppose there are multiple, but maybe start with the one or two of most immediate concern)? I looked at it a bit, and it's a lot to juggle, looking at diffs and the back and forth. Maybe it's just getting late, and I played a lot of basketball earli

[music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-08 Thread robert bristow-johnson
there's a guy there with handle "Clusternote" (who might be lurking here for all's i know) who is slugging it out with an IP (can't imagine who that is) about the math that goes into additive synthesis. if you ever bother to edit the en WP, it might be a good time to examine the article and