Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 21, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: As for things like distortion modeling of guitars, I can tell you that windowed sinc is involved, at least on the upsampling leg where you likely want to preserve phase. ... As long as you lowpass filter the signal first, then you're only

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 21, 2010, at 10:45 PM, Ross Bencina wrote: robert bristow-johnson wrote: one thing i might point out is that, when comparing apples-to- apples, an optimal design program like Parks-McClellan (firpm() in MATLAB) or Least-Squares (firls()) might do better than a windowed (i presume

Re: [music-dsp] Bandlimiting, Aliasing and Reconstructed Signals

2010-12-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Charles Turner wrote: Here's my limit case: let's assume some typical laptop with CD- quality sound generation capability with a sample rate of 44.1khz and sample size of 16 bits. I create a sinusoidal waveform on the computer with a period of 4,410hz. I choose

Re: [music-dsp] Bandlimiting, Aliasing and Reconstructed Signals

2010-12-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Charles Turner wrote: Here's my limit case: let's assume some typical laptop with CD- quality sound generation capability with a sample rate of 44.1khz and sample size of 16 bits. I create a sinusoidal waveform on the computer with a period of 4,410hz. I choose

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 23, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 8:36 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: and trying to point to an obvious advantage to any windowed sinc (that you don't have to compute the FIR when the output same lands squarely on top of an input sample when al

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 23, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Somehow, we are talking about different things maybe? possibly. i'll admit that i'm trying to be a little-bit anal (or OCD) with the language. In what I'm talking about, the key is that "n" is not integer, not even when the output sampl

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-26 Thread robert bristow-johnson
nput over. this is because of the nature of the sinc() function and is not directly because of half- band filter, but it *happens* to be the case that for 2x upsampling, this windowed-sinc is *also* a half-band filter. On Dec 24, 2010, at 5:16 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: On Dec 23, 2010,

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:05 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Hi Robert, hi Nigel, No need for me to address point by point, because I agree with everything you say, except for one major point (which affects a few things you said)... You seem to imply that a windowed-sinc created for 2x oversampl

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
*only* advantage you get with windowed-sinc and you may as well lay it by the wayside and move on to an optimal design. i had never suggested any other windowed-sinc design and i wouldn't really consider doing such. i will confess that when i said early on: On Dec 23, 2010, at 1:18 PM,

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
red no other use of the sinc() design until this exchange: On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:03 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: On Dec 27, 2010, at 2:05 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: ... Ideally, you would want everything from 0.50 to 1.00 to be "clear" to a reasonable degree. It's not. It'

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
well, okay, one more round... On Dec 28, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: On Dec 21, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: As for things like distortion modeling of guitars, I can tell you that windowed sinc is involved, at least on the upsampling leg where you likely want to prese

Re: [music-dsp] Wavelet algorithm for Time-Frequency Analysis

2010-12-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 28, 2010, at 5:43 AM, Stefan Westerfeld wrote: On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 02:53:30PM -0500, Bogac Topaktas wrote: I'd like to compute the continuous wavelet transform (CWT) of my input signal (audio file) with the morlet wavelet, to get a time frequency plane which corresponds to the ti

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
so was (or is) it Line6 or was it someone else? (this is my excuse for responding when i said you could have the last word.) i sayed: "was" is not the same as "is". On Dec 28, 2010, at 6:54 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: It "was" designed in. It "is" in products that I could go buy at guita

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Would it have been better if I said, "I can tell you that windowed sinc is used"? Hmm, I have a feeling that you might read that as "... is exclusively used", not sure... depends on what the meaning of "is" is. when Bill Clinton, when firs

Re: [music-dsp] Interpolation for SRC, applications and methods

2010-12-30 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Dec 29, 2010, at 9:10 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: i think we skeered 'em, Robert ;-) my driver's license photo looks pretty scary (but my facebook, linked- in, whatever isn't so scary). i got accosted once by plain-clothes NYC cops about a year ago. they said they stopped me because i

Re: [music-dsp] resonance

2011-01-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 4, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Didier Dambrin wrote: My new additive synth features full control on the filter, and I learnt a lot about "good sounding" resonance. Since I can control pretty much anything, I can shift the resonance point around the cutoff point, it's very useful musically. T

Re: [music-dsp] Bandlimiting, Aliasing and Reconstructed Signals

2011-01-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
to mean the thing we don't like, not the "images", which just exist. On Dec 23, 2010, at 8:41 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: On Dec 23, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Technically, there's always aliasing--it's a matter of whether it's in the audio band,

Re: [music-dsp] resonance

2011-01-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 5, 2011, at 12:02 AM, Didier Dambrin wrote: I said "additive" :) I was talking fully in the freq domain, & it's really nice to be free of the restrictions of IIRs (which I never really understood). i get it. no post-filtering. so are you applying to the additive components some s

Re: [music-dsp] Approaches to multiple band EQ

2011-01-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:23 PM, Thomas Young wrote: I need to develop a real-time multiple band EQ DSP effect, but I am unsure about how to approach it. do you mean a graphic EQ? My preferred approach would be to FFT-> Modify Spectrum-> IFFT, if you do that, better look up the concepts call

Re: [music-dsp] Approaches to multiple band EQ

2011-01-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 11, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Tom Wiltshire wrote: I'd approach this from a analogue-thinking angle and design a tunable parametric EQ stage and then parallel a load of them up, like Robert suggested. that's not exactly what i meant to suggest. what goes in parallel are not simply these

Re: [music-dsp] Autocorrelation - probably a daft question

2011-01-25 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Jan Baumgart wrote: When the two signal portions are alike, they are strongly correlated - so you get a maximum value for the correlation. If they have "nothing in common" you get a correlation value near zero.\ he said he was using periodic function generation

Re: [music-dsp] New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution

2011-01-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 28, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: I've been on a number of patent cases (as software expert, sometimes electronics), big players, on both sides... First, patents are important, and help progress. Non-obvious advances often come from expensive and lengthy research. Imagine a

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-01-31 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jan 31, 2011, at 12:02 PM, Andy Farnell wrote: Hi Ross, Are you suggesting by stating the above axiom that algorithms are _simply_ ideas and that for this reason alone they shouldn't be patentable? Yes I am, you've got it. An algorithm is unsufficiently concrete to deserve a patent,

Re: [music-dsp] damn patents (was New patent application on uniformly partitioned convolution) [OT]

2011-02-07 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Feb 7, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Tom Wiltshire wrote: On 7 Feb 2011, at 20:54, Andy Farnell wrote: Do a search on "Yamaha Patent FM". Does that look like a widespread interpretation that is clear and unambiguous to you? My argument is simple at this point. Development was stifled. This is an i

Re: [music-dsp] convolution in the frequency domain

2011-02-20 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Feb 20, 2011, at 5:37 PM, Thomas Rehaag wrote: > 1. oversample 2 times > 2. multiply > 3. downsample 2 times Wow, why didn't I think of this myselfe? The convolution would be much easier / better for me but you already saved me with this suggestion. > I thought it goes like: "convolut

Re: [music-dsp] Fwd: digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: Andy Farnell wrote: How do you know these filters don't have a resonance? That could explain your results. I doubt those filters would have explicit resonance/peaking at the cutoff (it is a lowpass EQ after all). But assuming they are us

Re: [music-dsp] digital EQ (passive) adding gain

2011-03-13 Thread robert bristow-johnson
another way to think about it is to pretend that your filter, whatever it is, is a "matched filter". "matched to what?" you say. it's matched to a signal that looks just like a time-reversed copy of the filter's impulse response. so whatever the impulse response of the filter is, if th

Re: [music-dsp] Frequency-dependent latency of a filter

2011-03-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Wen X wrote: As far as causality is concerned it's the *group* delay that should be non-negative. well, even group delay is negative with the peaking filters, for *some* frequencies. with group delay, there is no issue of phase unwrapping since the phase del

Re: [music-dsp] Frequency-dependent latency of a filter

2011-03-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Wen X wrote: From: music-dsp-boun...@music.columbia.edu [mailto:music-dsp-boun...@music.columbia.edu] On Behalf Of robert bristow-johnson well, even group delay is negative with the peaking filters, for *some* frequencies. Yes, but only if the filter

Re: [music-dsp] Frequency-dependent latency of a filter

2011-03-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 2:27 PM, xue wen wrote: Yes, but only if the filter has high (negative?) dispersion at that frequency. i'm not sure what that means. my understanding of dispersion would be a rapid change of phase or delay vs. frequency. my understanding is if different freq

Re: [music-dsp] Frequency-dependent latency of a filter

2011-03-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 17, 2011, at 8:05 PM, Andreas Beisler wrote: Hi. Sorry, I messed up the subject of the thread. that's whacha get fer using the digest form. that'll teach ya! -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- dupswapdrop -- th

Re: [music-dsp] Frequency-dependent latency of a filter

2011-03-18 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 18, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Wen X wrote: - when considering finite duration there is the uncertainty principle, so you always deal with a pack of frequencies rather than one frequency, which makes "latency" dependent on the content of that pack. - however, using FT[th(t)]=j(FT[h(t)])', on

Re: [music-dsp] quasi-bandlimited sawtooth and pulse waveforms

2011-03-28 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Mar 26, 2011, at 8:30 PM, kalle@helsinki.fi wrote: this might be of interest: http://www.csounds.com/node/1475 hi Kalle, i haven't dug into the detail, but i have some idea of the method. i thought that there was some kind BLIT technique that was similar. i remember it integra

Re: [music-dsp] Heureka or hype?

2011-04-06 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Apr 6, 2011, at 10:10 AM, Diemo Schwarz wrote: "Common digital specifications are 24 bit/96 kHz. 24 bits provide enough dynamic resolution, but 96 kHz is far from being sufficient when it comes to time resolution: our hearing capabilities would require sample rates of around 500 kHz.

Re: [music-dsp] Heureka or hype?

2011-04-07 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Apr 7, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: and do you have hunch what the result might be? i know i might just be speaking for myself (i'm 55 and, probably due to both genetics and that i like to listen to loud rock music, live or not, and had done that since my teens, and i'm 30

Re: [music-dsp] Sinewave generation - strange spectrum

2011-04-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Apr 27, 2011, at 1:38 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: eu...@lavabit.com wrote: *out++ = data->amplitude[0] * sinf( (2.0f * M_PI) * data->phase[0] ); *out++ = data->amplitude[1] * sinf( (2.0f * M_PI) * data->phase[1] ); /* Update phase, rollover at 1.0 */ data->phase[0] += (data->frequency[0] / SAM

Re: [music-dsp] Trapezoidal and other integration methodsappliedtomusical resonant filters

2011-05-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On May 17, 2011, at 5:09 AM, Vadim Zavalishin wrote: You mean this one? Analyzing the Moog VCF with Considerations for Digital Implementation by Tim Stilson, Julius Smith http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/summary?doi=10.1.1.50.3093 No, there was another one dealing with zero delay feedbac

Re: [music-dsp] Trapezoidal and other integrationmethodsappliedtomusical resonant filters

2011-05-17 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On May 17, 2011, at 6:27 PM, Ross Bencina wrote: robert bristow-johnson wrote: even though the cookbook yields coefficients for Direct 1 or Direct 2 forms, it's pretty easy to translate that to the state- variable design if that is the form you wanna use. I've often wondered

Re: [music-dsp] Trapezoidal and other integration methods applied tomusical resonant filters

2011-05-18 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On May 18, 2011, at 5:28 AM, Vadim Zavalishin wrote: As far as I can tell there are only two state variables, v1 and v2, and also their previous values v1z and v2z. I'm not sure that the input v0 and its previous value count as state in this sense, but I'm not really up with the lingo, so pleas

Re: [music-dsp] Trapezoidal and other integration methods appliedtomusical resonant filters

2011-05-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On May 20, 2011, at 7:43 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: robert bristow-johnson wrote: i don't have time now to complete the analysis, but here is my first pass at getting the z-plane transfer function (something to compare to the DF1 or DF2). Thanks very much Robert, yer welcome. i th

Re: [music-dsp] Trapezoidal and other integration methods appliedtomusical resonant filters

2011-05-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On May 21, 2011, at 11:27 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: t-1t y(t) = integral{ x(u) du} + integral{ x(u) du} -inf t-1 ~= t(t-1) + x(t) this should be

Re: [music-dsp] Trapezoidal and other integration methodsappliedtomusical resonant filters

2011-05-23 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 5/22/2011 5:27 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: [...] which might be what Hal gets, i think. it's the only way to make the claim that the Qc coefficient is independent of w0 and depends only on Q. but if the resonant frequency is closer to Nyquist, you need to scale Q with a

Re: [music-dsp] Hardware Sampler Timestretch

2011-06-26 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jun 26, 2011, at 7:52 PM, Didier Dambrin wrote: pretty sure that on a piece of hardware 20 years ago, it couldn't be anything else / anything in the freq domain As an introduction to time stretching I thought I'd try and emulate how some of the older hardware samplers used to do it. The

Re: [music-dsp] Hardware Sampler Timestretch

2011-06-26 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Stephen Blinkhorn wrote: I'm looking at the time stretch for now preferably real-time. okay, so now we gotta get something clear: this time-stretcher has more samples coming out than going in, right? now, how is that done real time? you could have it empty a

Re: [music-dsp] Hardware Sampler Timestretch

2011-06-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Stephen Blinkhorn wrote: On 26 Jun 2011, at 20:32, robert bristow-johnson wrote: On Jun 26, 2011, at 8:41 PM, Stephen Blinkhorn wrote: I'm looking at the time stretch for now preferably real-time. okay, so now we gotta get something clear: this

Re: [music-dsp] A theory of optimal splicing of audio in the time domain.

2011-07-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
hi Olli (and others)... i was reviewing this thread because i wanted to read what Stefan Stenzel had said and realized that you had posted this response, and i don't think i or anyone had responded to it. i don't remember reading it (it must be the cannabis). i hope you're listening Olli

Re: [music-dsp] A theory of optimal splicing of audio in the time domain.

2011-07-14 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jul 13, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Olli Niemitalo wrote: On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 10:53 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: On Dec 7, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Olli Niemitalo wrote: [I] chose that the ratio a(t)/a(-t) [...] should be preserved by "preserved", do you mean constant over all t?

Re: [music-dsp] A theory of optimal splicing of audio in the time domain.

2011-07-14 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jul 14, 2011, at 5:36 PM, Olli Niemitalo wrote: On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:22 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: g(t) = 1/sqrt( (1+r)/2 + 2*(1-r)*(p(t))^2 ) might this result match what you have? Yes! I only derived the formula for the linear ramp, p(t) = t/2, because one can get

Re: [music-dsp] A theory of optimal splicing of audio in the time domain.

2011-07-15 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jul 15, 2011, at 12:46 AM, Sampo Syreeni wrote: What are you trying to accomplish here, really? Optimum splicing, sure, but against which precise criterion? the precise criterion is how well the two signals being spliced correlate to one another. i tried to set that up with the inner

Re: [music-dsp] Reverb removal

2011-07-29 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On Jul 29, 2011, at 5:00 AM, Alexandros Tsilfidis wrote: In the dereverberation context, room reverberation is regarded as the combination of early reflections and late reverberation. It is well known that early reflections produce a spectral degradation which is perceived as coloration, wh

Re: [music-dsp] Reverb removal

2011-07-29 Thread robert bristow-johnson
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Re: [music-dsp] Precise, Real Time Pitch Shift with Formant Control

2011-08-02 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 8/2/11 9:32 AM, Igor Brkic wrote: On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Conley, Dylan wrote: Is anyone aware of an open source pitch-shift algorithm implementation that is quick (< 2ms) precise (to within 0.5 cents) and leaves the formant intact? ... you can do that in two steps: first do pitc

Re: [music-dsp] Precise, Real Time Pitch Shift with Formant Control

2011-08-02 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 8/2/11 12:01 PM, Wen Xue wrote: This might be purely theoretical - but can you pitch-shift something below 500Hz with<2ms delay at reasonable precision? no, not in a meaningful way. i didn't realize in my earlier response that the OP spec'd that. it's an unreasonable spec. There doesn't

Re: [music-dsp] Precise, Real Time Pitch Shift with Formant Control

2011-08-02 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 8/2/11 2:04 PM, Steffan Diedrichsen wrote: Since you implement for a synthesizer, you may look into the option for an off-line pitch detection and real-time grain-synthesis. Grain synthesis has a nice formant control and is fairly easy to implement. i think that this "grain synthesis" is ess

Re: [music-dsp] Precise, Real Time Pitch Shift with Formant Control

2011-08-05 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 8/4/11 8:32 AM, Conley, Dylan wrote: I did have a couple follow up questions that I hope aren't too irrelevant. Because we are working with the VST spec (and temporarily within an implementation of the Java MIDI Interface) we will have access to all MIDI information. Assuming the instrument

Re: [music-dsp] Electrical Engineering Foundations

2011-08-24 Thread robert bristow-johnson
well, the math for the sampling and reconstruction theorem (from where we understand the zero-order-hold effect on frequency response from a conventional D/A converter and from where we understand the basis of bandlimited interpolation, resampling or sample-rate conversion) is pretty straight

Re: [music-dsp] music-dsp Digest, Vol 92, Issue 7

2011-08-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 8/24/11 1:51 PM, Andy Farnell wrote: ... So my question for you Theo ... put on the profs hat... How would you make these very powerful and (to me) wonderful and mind boggling things in signals theory interesting and relevant in an age where we have to compete with autotune and facebook?

Re: [music-dsp] FM Synthesis

2011-09-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
i am not a Java programmer, but i think i can read this code. where does the symbol "buffer[]" get declared? i resume you're getting opBuffer[] operator.buffer. private void modulate( final int numFrames ) { clear( numFrames ); // zero buffer for( @NotNull final Lin

Re: [music-dsp] FM Synthesis

2011-09-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
what Brad Smith points out (that at least 1 sample delay is necessary for feedback) is true for any discrete-time processing alg. and we know that if "block processing" or "chunk processing" (whatever you wanna call the technique) would require a minimum delay of BLOCK_SIZE samples for any sig

Re: [music-dsp] Signal mixing in frequency domain in polar form

2011-10-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
if you don't want intermodulation distortion, then you mix audio signals by scaling and adding. can be done in the frequency domain, but it's still rectangular form addition. the mix scaling can be done with the polar-> rect conversion. you can do that conversion reasonably efficiently if yo

Re: [music-dsp] Vectorising IIR Filters

2011-10-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Thomas Young [thomas.yo...@rebellion.co.uk] writes: > Refactoring the filter to be with respect to n outputs behind (when > using vectors of length n) is an excellent idea. I was a bit skeptical > that the maths was correct there, but having read it over and > stuffed some numbers into excel in

Re: [music-dsp] Splitting audio signal into N frequency bands

2011-11-02 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 11/2/11 2:37 PM, David Reaves wrote: When you use two-pole (second-order) filters, not only is the design more complex, you also risk phase anomalies around the crossover point, usually requiring you to invert the polarity of one of the bands. this might be when it's useful to look up Link

Re: [music-dsp] Orfanidis-style filter design

2011-11-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 11/27/11 12:23 PM, Dominique Würtz wrote: Hi all, I recently got interested in the approach from [1] to design of digital EQs. The main idea here is to introduce a new degree of freedom G1 in the prewarped analog prototype Hp(s) where G1 is the filter transfer gain at Nyquist frequency which

Re: [music-dsp] Orfanidis-style filter design

2011-11-27 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 11/27/11 3:17 PM, Dominique Würtz wrote: Any ideas? Knud Christensen "A Generalization of the Biquadratic Parametric" http://www.aes.org/e-lib/browse.cfm?elib=12429 Hmm, reading the abstract I'm not 100% sure if it really addresses what I'm aiming at. Sorry for being sceptical, b

Re: [music-dsp] Orfanidis-style filter design

2011-12-08 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 12/8/11 4:36 PM, Theo Verelst wrote: robert bristow-johnson Sun Nov 27 17:29:14 EST 2011 wrote: On 11/27/11 3:17 PM, Dominique Würtz wrote: > >>>Any ideas? >>Knud Christensen "A Generalization of the Biquadratic Parametric" >>http://www.a

Re: [music-dsp] Orfanidis-style filter design

2011-12-08 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 12/9/11 12:55 AM, Michael Olsen wrote: Robert, well, since, i have received a pdf copy of the Christensen paper. i am willing to send it along to any small quantity of people who ask. i realize the AES would rather that people get the paper from them and pay for it, but if the cost is $

[music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-08 Thread robert bristow-johnson
there's a guy there with handle "Clusternote" (who might be lurking here for all's i know) who is slugging it out with an IP (can't imagine who that is) about the math that goes into additive synthesis. if you ever bother to edit the en WP, it might be a good time to examine the article and

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/9/12 11:00 AM, Victor Lazzarini wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if all of the knowledge embodied in this list could find its way into Wikipedia, fixing the howlers and myths that exist in some of the audio, synthesis, effects, computer music, etc pages? I know that some of us have at time cont

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/9/12 11:58 AM, Scott Nordlund wrote: I looked at it a bit, and it's a lot to juggle, looking at diffs and the back and forth. Maybe it's just getting late, and I played a lot of basketball earlier, but the final thing that told me "it's bed time" was, in skimming the article, "Its [RMI] wa

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/10/12 9:31 PM, Alen Koebel wrote: I get paid to write, so I'm no stranger to research. I have edited the work of others and had my work edited. Many here can say the same, I'm sure. With that background I have tried to edit articles on Wikipedia. IMO, Wikipedia is fundamentally a bad idea

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/10/12 11:29 PM, Scott Nordlund wrote: On January 9, 2012 at 3:02:04 PM Veronica Merryfield veronica.merryfield@shaw.cawrote:> My feel is that to make it right, it probably needs more than a bit of adjustment. If this is to be fixed, I think it needs to be an organized effort. I scan down

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additivesynthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/11/12 10:50 AM, Thomas Young wrote: Man I wish I hadn't gone to that wiki page now, it really is a mess and there are some pretty glaring errors (missing brackets on the summation in the Fourier series equation, and citation needed... wtf?) -Original Message- From: music-dsp-boun

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additivesynthesis > article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/12/12 2:41 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: On 12/01/2012 4:01 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: well, i cannot tell that the WP admins are going to do anything about this other than wait for the page protection to expire (about 26 hours) and then see what happens. if enough of us converge upon

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
hey, i appreciate the help from folks here (namely Olli and Ross) dropping in on that Wikipedia article, now that it has been released from protection. please don't go away, there is lotsa stuff to do and we have time to do it. it appears that this editor who wanted to rewrite everything a

Re: [music-dsp] anyone care to take a look at the Additive synthesis article at Wikipedia?

2012-01-16 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 1/16/12 1:16 AM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Nice improvements. This may seem like nitpicking, but the "Timeline of additive synthesizers" section seems to choose keeping the instrument name as the start of the sentence over proper grammar. For instance: Hammond organ, invented in 1934[26], is

Re: [music-dsp] choice of Q for graphic equalizers

2012-02-06 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 2/6/12 3:28 PM, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote: A quick question: I am writing a little 31 band graphical equalizer (three bands per octave), and I want to use the peaking-eq biquads from Roberts excellent filter cookbook. Everything is working fine so far, but I wonder what Q should I choose for th

Re: [music-dsp] (no subject)

2012-02-07 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 2/7/12 1:45 PM, Nils Pipenbrinck wrote: On 02/07/2012 06:04 AM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: so it looks like you have 31 biquads in cascade, right? and they are all peaking-EQ filters from the cookbook, right? (perhaps the bottom band and the top band are shelving EQs.) i would suggest

[music-dsp] test

2012-02-07 Thread robert bristow-johnson
test. -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp htt

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
you're not related to Miller Puckett, are you? just curious. and you're still welcome to the group no matter the answer. -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscript

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-21 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 2/21/12 9:20 AM, Adam Puckett wrote: No, I'm not related to Miller Puckette. that's okay. yer still welcome. :-) -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription

Re: [music-dsp] google's non-sine

2012-02-22 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 2/22/12 9:20 AM, douglas repetto wrote: This is driving me nutz: http://www.google.com And now an image search for Hertz features lots and lots of pictures of a non-sinewave! Arrg! i was wondering if it was the same Hertz. i guess it is. sometimes Google's authority is dubious. --

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 2/20/12 10:28 AM, douglas repetto wrote: Hi Adam, Welcome to the list. It's slow right now, but no doubt it'll flare up again soon! no shit -- r b-j r...@audioimagination.com "Imagination is more important than knowledge." -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing li

[music-dsp] high-level vs. low-level coding of algs

2012-02-26 Thread robert bristow-johnson
changed the subject line to something more accurate... On 2/26/12 9:25 AM, Ross Bencina wrote: On 27/02/2012 1:11 AM, Brad Garton wrote: We're fooling around with the new Max/MSP gen~ stuff in class, it seems an interesting alternative model for low-level DSP coding. Once they figure out how t

Re: [music-dsp] More on the job opening

2012-03-24 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 3/24/12 4:45 PM, Linda Seltzer wrote: Kindly allow me to provide further information on the job ad. The experience requires advanced degrees in engineering or physics (this is not a position for a music major unless the music major double majored in engineering or physics). The areas of expe

Re: [music-dsp] OSC problem on STM32F4Discovery

2012-04-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
i hadn't heard of this dev board before. at http://www.st.com/internet/evalboard/product/252419.jsp it says that the single unit prices is US$14.9 . is that right? that's nearly free. where do the software tools (the compiler/linker/loader/etc) come from? regarding wavetable indexing, som

Re: [music-dsp] OSC problem on STM32F4Discovery

2012-04-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 4/9/12 1:29 PM, Julian Schmidt wrote: Am 09.04.2012 19:16, schrieb robert bristow-johnson: i hadn't heard of this dev board before. at http://www.st.com/internet/evalboard/product/252419.jsp it says that the single unit prices is US$14.9 . is that right? that's nearly f

[music-dsp] testing 1,2,3

2012-04-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
i dunno why, but i can no longer reply to the thread that Julian started. if this post gets to the list, then i think there is some damaged header or something. this has happened to me before and it only happens with this mailing list. after hitting "Send", Thunderbird tries sending it and

[music-dsp] testing 1,2,3...

2012-04-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
[this is a fresh message, not a reply to any other, since none of those seem to get past my SMTP server.] On 4/9/12 5:25 PM, Julian Schmidt wrote: > Am 09.04.2012 23:22, schrieb Olli Niemitalo: >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Julian Schmidt >> wrote: >>> I really think it is an aliasing

[music-dsp] testing different subject header

2012-04-09 Thread robert bristow-johnson
testing 1,2,3... this is identical to a previous message (that would not get past my SMTP) with this sentence added and the subject header changed.. On 4/9/12 5:25 PM, Julian Schmidt wrote: Am 09.04.2012 23:22, schrieb Olli Niemitalo: On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:32 PM, Julian Schmidt wrote:

Re: [music-dsp] OSC problem on STM32F4Discover

2012-04-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
another day, another restarted computer, let's see if i can post to this thread (that was the weirdest of problems). here's hoping my SMTP server doesn't reject this... it *did* reject it. Thunderbird says: "Alert. An error occurred while sending mail. The mail server responded: 5.7.1 q3A

Re: [music-dsp] OSC problem on STM32F4Discover

2012-04-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
now that i think of it, if you're doing linear interpolation and you forget to add that extra repeated point at the end of the wavetable: float wavetable[257]; // one extra point for doing linear interpolation // make sure that wavetable[256] = wavetable[0] you will

Re: [music-dsp] OSC problem on STM32F4Discover

2012-04-10 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 4/10/12 1:18 PM, Nigel Redmon wrote: Excellent point, Robert. (Another way to avoid it is to mask the index with 0xff, if you want to keep the table 256, but not check for wrap in the mid-interpolation.) sure, but that masking is otherwise unnecessary (the initial index will always be 0 <

[music-dsp] okay, so i got my STM32F4-Discovery board in the mail today.

2012-04-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
it was pretty spare in the mail. essentially just the board and a cute little card in a bubble box. the card has some "Getting started" instructions and number 5. says to got to http://www.st.com/stm32f4-discovery tutorial, and i'll do that soon. it also mentions dev toolchains: Altium Ato

Re: [music-dsp] okay, so i got my STM32F4-Discovery board in the mail today.

2012-04-12 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 4/12/12 10:06 PM, Eric Brombaugh wrote: On 04/12/2012 05:53 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: it was pretty spare in the mail. essentially just the board and a cute little card in a bubble box. Yes, that's pretty much all you get. Bring your own mini-USB cable. the card has

Re: [music-dsp] WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread robert bristow-johnson
i wish i could program my Thunderbird client to *not* copy HTML formatting (like this font change) from the quoted post in replying. and i wish that music-dsp's Majordomo or whoever would not copy it either. that said... everythingXue says is congruent to my experience (which is no longer ve

Re: [music-dsp] [admin] Re: WOLA and the phase vocoder

2012-04-20 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 4/20/12 8:51 PM, douglas repetto wrote: On 4/20/12 1:10 PM, robert bristow-johnson wrote: i wish i could program my Thunderbird client to *not* copy HTML formatting (like this font change) from the quoted post in replying. and i wish that music-dsp's Majordomo or whoever would not co

Re: [music-dsp] To EE or not to EE (Was: Job at Waldorf and Possible Job Opportunity)

2012-05-04 Thread robert bristow-johnson
engineer. You also learn engineering by solving real problems and maybe breaking things. Chances are pretty good that your early attempts are/were crap. Many of you know Robert Bristow-Johnson. oh jeepers. He is a bit famous in this group because in part, he did the rb-j cookbook. one

Re: [music-dsp] Wavetable interpolation

2012-05-07 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 5/7/12 5:45 PM, ChordWizard Software wrote: I am working on a new project using PortAudio and testing it with a waveform stored in a buffer. This could be generated myself (sine, square, sawtooth, etc) or a more complex waveform loaded from a file. I want to be able to render the waveform a

Re: [music-dsp] Pointers for auto-classification of sounds?

2012-06-08 Thread robert bristow-johnson
On 6/8/12 1:36 PM, Charles Turner wrote: I was initially hesitant to post to the list as I haven't explored this topic very deeply, but after a second thought I said "what the hell," so please forgive if my Friday mood is more lazy than inquisitive. nothing wrong with posting this. nothing at

Re: [music-dsp] ### Pointers for auto-classification of sounds?

2012-06-11 Thread robert bristow-johnson
Douglas, i am getting that weird refusal to accept the email (saying that it is not properly formatted) unless i change the subject line. i just don't get it. On 6/11/12 1:58 PM, Thomas Young wrote: GA isn't really supposed to mimic the real world as closely as you are suggesting, in the r

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