Yet another FAQ

2000-06-19 Thread Martin Julian DeMello
Going through the mailing list and the documentation on mutt.org, it strikes me that what we lack is a 'How do I' FAQ (of the sort perl has). Of course, it'd be semiredundant informationwise since it's all there in the manual, but it'd be a useful resource for the newbie daunted by the sheer mass

Re: Yet another FAQ

2000-06-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Martin Julian DeMello proclaimed on mutt-users that: Going through the mailing list and the documentation on mutt.org, it strikes me that what we lack is a 'How do I' FAQ (of the sort perl has). Of course, Martin - I've been working on something like this (and it's a bit rough now). I'll

Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread Brett Coon
I'm currently an MH/exmh user, and I'm considering the switch to mutt.I have tried it out briefly, and browsed the documentation, so hopefully the following questions aren't too obvious. 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread Gary Johnson
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 12:02:53AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...so it can be tested if an X-server is running. What is this program RunningX ? Is it an utility that comes with X (it is not on my machine), or a simple script in bash or so (a test about a variable like $TERM) ? It's a C

Re: problems with quotes in send-hook lines within .muttrc

2000-06-19 Thread Gary Johnson
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 11:36:34PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my .muttrc, I've put a line in the way to set my editor: set editor="vi -c 'set wrap' -c 'set textwidth=0' -c 'set linebreak'" It works fine. But in some mailing-lists, one asked me to limit the length of my messages at

Re: problems with quotes in send-hook lines within .muttrc

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: send-hook '~t linux-bruxelles' set editor="vi +set textwidth=72" what about set editor="vi \"+set textwidth=72\""? clemens

Re: problems with quotes in send-hook lines within .muttrc

2000-06-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
clemensF proclaimed on mutt-users that: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: send-hook '~t linux-bruxelles' set editor="vi +set textwidth=72" what about set editor="vi \"+set textwidth=72\""? Put this in your .vimrc set tw=72 -- Suresh Ramasubramanian + [EMAIL PROTECTED] Five is a sufficiently close

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Brett Coon: 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of messages, which undoubtedly is at least part of the problem. Would it be faster if I stored messages in mbox format? Is there anything else I can do to speed it up other than

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Gary Johnson: ...so it can be tested if an X-server is running. What is this program RunningX ? Is it an utility that comes with X (it is not on my you might consider just using standard "/usr/bin/test -n $DISPLAY". no need for special programs, if you test the existence of the x-

Re: alias classes

2000-06-19 Thread David T-G
Clueless -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % David T-G proclaimed on mutt-users that: % % fcc-save-hook \ ... % folders under $HOME/Mail/PALS instead of under $HOME/Mail. I'd really % like to be able to define a class of pals so that I can say % % Call me clueless but this

Re: problems with quotes in send-hook lines within .muttrc

2000-06-19 Thread Ronny Haryanto
On 18-Jun-2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my .muttrc, I've put a line in the way to set my editor: set editor="vi -c 'set wrap' -c 'set textwidth=0' -c 'set linebreak'" I personally separate my vimrc for general editing and for mail editing. Hence in mutt I put: set editor = "vi -u

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread Ronny Haryanto
On 19-Jun-2000, clemensF wrote: Brett Coon: 1. Folder changes are really slow. My MH folders (directories) have thousands of messages, which undoubtedly is at least part of the problem. Would it be faster if I stored messages in mbox format? Is there anything else I can

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as "answer within 1 week", "delete after 2 weeks", etc, and have the mailtool act accordingly on messages

Re: Yet another FAQ

2000-06-19 Thread David T-G
Suresh -- ...and then Suresh Ramasubramanian said... % Martin Julian DeMello proclaimed on mutt-users that: % % Going through the mailing list and the documentation on mutt.org, it strikes % me that what we lack is a 'How do I' FAQ (of the sort perl has). Of course, % % Martin - I've been

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread Mrinal Kalakrishnan
Hi, clemensF typed: you might consider just using standard "/usr/bin/test -n $DISPLAY". no need for special programs, if you test the existence of the x- variable used to indicate, well, the display to use. No it's different. If you're in a console while X is running, the RunningX test will

special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread David T-G
Hi, folks -- ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: % 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to % (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as % "answer within 1 week", "delete after 2 weeks",

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread Mikko Hänninen
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: Any way to put the X-Label: contents into $index_format? I think so. I'm not sure though, it's awhile since it was discussed and I'm not running the latest dev so I can't test it out or check the docs. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka.

emacs fontsize

2000-06-19 Thread Dale Morris
I'm trying to use emacs as the editor for mutt. Only problem I have is that the new version of emacs that came with Redhat 6.2 has a much larger font than previous releases. How do I set the font size to something a little smaller? -- dale ICQ # 67278457

Re: emacs fontsize

2000-06-19 Thread David T-G
Dale -- ...and then Dale Morris said... % I'm trying to use emacs as the editor for mutt. Only problem I have is Ick :-) % that the new version of emacs that came with Redhat 6.2 has a much % larger font than previous releases. How do I set the font size to % something a little smaller? No

Re: emacs fontsize

2000-06-19 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 09:22:07AM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: - I'm trying to use emacs as the editor for mutt. Only problem I have is - that the new version of emacs that came with Redhat 6.2 has a much - larger font than previous releases. How do I set the font size to - something a little

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Ronny Haryanto: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same speed as maildir since it resembles maildir. are your files on a network? clemens

Re: procmail question

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Virginie [ ML ]: defaults mda "formail -ds procmail" one can save one exec and much complexity using: mda "/usr/local/bin/procmail -t -f-" clemens

Re: procmail question

2000-06-19 Thread gauthier . vandemoortele
On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 05:49:47PM -0700, Brian D. Winters wrote: Never, never, never filter a mailing list like mutt-users based on To:, Cc:, From:, Subject:, Reply-To: or Mail-Followup-To: if you can possibly help it. What happens the first time someone bcc's the list? Think about it.

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David T-G" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to put the X-Label: contents into $index_format? My index_format has: "%?y?[%y] ?". From the docs: The ``X-Label:'' header field can be used to further identify mailing lists or list subject matter

Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Vincent Danen
Hi there. I can't seem to figure this one out. It's like sendmail is re-writing the Return-Path header and it's making my posts to some mailing lists bounce for some reason. I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the .muttrc for [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when it bounced back for the

Re: alias classes

2000-06-19 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Rob Reid proclaimed on mutt-users that: If mutt can't or won't be reorganized in a better way, maybe somebody (else ;-) could write a script to take alias definitions and produce lists of save-hooks and fcc-save-hooks. A similar neat trick would be to simultaneously define mailing lists in

Customizing one send-hook for all mailing lists

2000-06-19 Thread Dirk Ruediger
Hi all! I want to define an implicite send-hook for all mailing lists I am subscribed to and define a special attribution, use special signatures and something like that. Is it possible to process the entries of "subscribe" or "lists" to use it for send-hook, e.g.: send-hook ($subsribe) 'set

Re: problems with quotes in send-hook lines within .muttrc

2000-06-19 Thread Dirk Ruediger
Hi all, On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Ronny Haryanto wrote: On 18-Jun-2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my .muttrc, I've put a line in the way to set my editor: set editor="vi -c 'set wrap' -c 'set textwidth=0' -c 'set linebreak'" I personally separate my vimrc for general editing and for mail

Re: Yet another FAQ

2000-06-19 Thread Norbert Steinl
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [190600 16:42 CET]: [mutt faq] Hey, I'm interested :-) Me too ;-) % % it'd be semiredundant informationwise since it's all there in the manual, % but it'd be a useful resource for the newbie daunted by the sheer mass of % options and settings to wade

Re: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 10:27:05PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the .muttrc for [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when it bounced back for the second time it showed the Return-Path as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where devel.danen.net is the hostname for this

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-19 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Champion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David T-G" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any way to put the X-Label: contents into $index_format? My index_format has: "%?y?[%y] ?". From the docs: ...

Re: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: Hmmm... I use Qmail as my SMTP server on my server, but not on this machine. Maybe I should use Qmail on this machine also... Maybe, no arguments from me. :-) (I use qmail at home too...) Is there no way to get mutt to talk to

Re: procmail question

2000-06-19 Thread Brian D. Winters
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:46:42PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 05:49:47PM -0700, Brian D. Winters wrote: Never, never, never filter a mailing list like mutt-users based on To:, Cc:, From:, Subject:, Reply-To: or Mail-Followup-To: if you can possibly help it.

Re: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 11:34:45PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: Hmmm... I use Qmail as my SMTP server on my server, but not on this machine. Maybe I should use Qmail on this machine also... Maybe, no arguments from me. :-) (I

Re: alias classes

2000-06-19 Thread Rob Reid
At 2:11 AM EDT on June 19 Suresh Ramasubramanian sent off: Rob Reid proclaimed on mutt-users that: If mutt can't or won't be reorganized in a better way, maybe somebody (else ;-) could write a script to take alias definitions and produce lists of save-hooks and fcc-save-hooks. A similar

Re: Customizing one send-hook for all mailing lists

2000-06-19 Thread Wilhelm Wienemann
Hello Dirk! On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Dirk Ruediger wrote: I want to define an implicite send-hook for all mailing lists I am subscribed to and define a special attribution, use special signatures and something like that. Is it possible to process the entries of "subscribe" or "lists" to use

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Mrinal Kalakrishnan: No it's different. If you're in a console while X is running, the RunningX test will fail, because it actually tries to open the display. Whereas the $DISPLAY variable still exists, so "test -n $DISPLAY" test passes. So if you're in a console, while X is running, then

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread clemensF
Mrinal Kalakrishnan: No it's different. If you're in a console while X is running, the RunningX test will fail, because it actually tries to open the display. Whereas the $DISPLAY variable still exists, so "test -n isn't there some other way (a unix way) for trying to open the x- display?

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.19, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "clemensF" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mrinal Kalakrishnan: No it's different. If you're in a console while X is running, the RunningX test will fail, because it actually tries to open the display. Whereas the $DISPLAY variable still exists, so

Re: test=RunningX

2000-06-19 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 03:04:19AM +0200, clemensF wrote: isn't there some other way (a unix way) for trying to open the x- display? is one of the standard /dev/* devices associated with an x- display? no (there's a socket associated with it, but the location and permissions vary from one

Re: Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Lars Hecking
Vincent Danen writes: Hi there. I can't seem to figure this one out. It's like sendmail is re-writing the Return-Path header and it's making my posts to some mailing lists bounce for some reason. I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the .muttrc for That is a pretty useless

Re: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Lars Hecking [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the .muttrc for That is a pretty useless thing to do, according RFC 822. Not if you use a MTA (or rather, mail-injection-agent (MIA?)) that picks out that header and uses it for

Upgrade oddness

2000-06-19 Thread Chris Conrad
I recently have been trying to upgrade from Mutt 1.0.1i to Mutt 1.2i (using the Debian packages from frozen and unstable respectively). The problem that I'm running into has to do with PGP support. I have several friends who use Eudora on Windows (they just won't quit using Windows) and

Re: Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-19 Thread Frank Derichsweiler
I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the .muttrc for [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when it bounced back for the second time it showed the Return-Path as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where devel.danen.net is the hostname for this computer). Since I can't quite change the hostname on the fly, does