Re: About wrapping lines.

2002-05-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Jussi Ekholm quotation: I was just wondering, that is it possible for Mutt to wrap the lines before sending the message in the editor when replying? At least Slrn handles this, and it is quite nice feature indeed. You don't want that anyway, you just think you do. If your editor

Re: JAVA applet to run mutt via http

2002-04-30 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin David T-G quotation: % yeah, but that's what he asked for. ;) It is? He specifically said that he is limited to a web browser to get through the firewall. Not his first question, his second. I was replying to it; in fact, I was replying to somebody's reply to that question, in

Re: JAVA applet to run mutt via http

2002-04-30 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin mikea quotation: Something to keep firmly in mind when talking about this, and even _MORE_ firmly in mind if one is thinking about doing it at work, is that lots of places view circumventing the firewall as an indication that you need to work somewhere else. In fact, since Perl was

Re: JAVA applet to run mutt via http

2002-04-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin darren chamberlain quotation: * Marco Fioretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-29 13:52]: Last but not least: what was that JAVA applet called anyway? I think you're looking for MindTerm, which google tells me is at http://www.appgate.com/ag.asp?template=productslevel1=product_mindterm.

Re: JAVA applet to run mutt via http

2002-04-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin David T-G quotation: Quick -- someone write a perl script that will interface between a local ssh session's filehandles and an incoming ssh stream! I just figured run an ssh daemon on port 80 on his home box, since he probably doesn't need a web server on it. But if you wanna write

Re: [OT] Only allow mail from selected addresses

2002-04-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
you notification that you must engage in some action or lose your account? Whitelisting is horribly complicated to get right, and if you get it wrong, it's guaranteed to bounce legitimate mail. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com

Re: Search on mailboxes

2002-04-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
{} \; -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27686/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Company MTA has broken PGP/MIME

2002-04-23 Thread Shawn McMahon
cause (the MTA setup), or fix the broken symptom (the emails, by filtering and editing them, I.E. fetchmail and procmail and [something]). I'd butt my head against the MTA folks first, since that fixes the problem for ALL users, not just you. Good luck. -- Shawn McMahon

Re: X-Header

2002-04-22 Thread Shawn McMahon
-Headers, though. :-) -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27525/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: X-Header

2002-04-22 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Mike Schiraldi quotation: giving me the following result: X-Uptime: 18:09:29 up 32 days, 5:40, 5 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.08 Of course, it's a very silly flag to use, since it's so easy to fake. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support

Re: PGP signature

2002-04-22 Thread Shawn McMahon
? Please advise. No, there's something they've configured wrong. Tell them to read RFC 3156 and get back to you when their mailer supports it. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM

Re: message/partial

2002-04-19 Thread Shawn McMahon
to a single server in Belgium, so it's not a good choice.) However, your key isn't self-signed, so no OpenPGP-compliant software will accept it. There are security issues with accepting non-self-signed keys. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com

Re: mutt, pop, and HOWTOs (was Re: fork() ?)

2002-04-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27364/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Reply including headers

2002-04-18 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin mstevenson quotation: Is it possible to include (quote) the headers for a message I'm replying to? Yes. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2

Re: fork() ?

2002-04-17 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Simon White quotation: Can you not just do $ fetchmail (options) $ mutt Or, better: fetchmail -d300 mutt -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex

Re: List-Reply

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon
no, it should cycle through the Cc: addresses until you say yes or q. Alternately, just do the To:, and ignore the Cc:, because people shouldn't be Cc:ing lists. But that may just be me. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1

Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon
it in the archives, too. Otherwise that temporary list is gonna need permanent archives. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong

Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon
. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27240/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-16 Thread Shawn McMahon
one for The Old Way. Sorry for the brainfart. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27245/pgp0.pgp

Re: fork() ?

2002-04-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
the last 400. So my question, why don't we easily fork() this process ? fetchmail is what you want for that. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody

Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
problems with parsing usernames with spaces in them. Try upgrading it, and see if the problem persists. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks

Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-15 Thread Shawn McMahon
he'd communicate with off-list could possibly solve it? -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27205/pgp0.pgp

Re: Newbie with mutt and fetchmail

2002-04-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
command. What do I need to do in order to have mutt receive and display my messages from my server? Either unset your spoolfile option in your muttrc and let Mutt figure it out, or set it properly. If you have a $MAIL environment variable set, it may be using that. -- Shawn McMahon

Re: PGP signature verification

2002-04-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
a broken MTA involved. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | 2) Somebody thinks your way is wrong msg27173/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: S/MIME

2002-04-14 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Thorsten Haude quotation: using S/MIME in this list, what might have been their reason? Is S/MIME better established with non-free software? Exactly. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one

Re: HTML Mail

2002-04-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
urlview, and it works great. You don't want to automate that anyway, it'd defeat the purpose of feeding you the web page. When they're more confident in their defaults, they'll reopen the option for fast submissions. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http

Re: Writing a memo to myself

2002-04-13 Thread Shawn McMahon
it on first. Oh, is it a bug that when I press y to send a message, it won't let me send the message if no recipients are specified (but there's an Fcc: specified)? No. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than

Re: HTML Mail

2002-04-12 Thread Shawn McMahon
to script a web post, and has the advantage that you don't have to re-post if their system load won't allow a submission at that moment. -- Shawn McMahon| McMahon's Laws of Linux support: http://www.eiv.com | 1) There's more than one way to do it AIM: spmcmahonfedex

Re: HTML Mail

2002-04-11 Thread Shawn McMahon
, that's what they're there for. -- Shawn McMahon| Information may want to be free, but fiber http://www.eiv.com | optic cable wants to be one million US AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | dollars per mile. msg27045/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Re: Outlook pst import: What file format should I use?

2002-04-11 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin [EMAIL PROTECTED] quotation: These big text files open fine with vim. When I get home, I may have to fiddle with the From header to get things right. But, this may work. That'll be easy. One line of Perl or shell, most likely. -- Shawn McMahon| Information may

Re: Saving all attachments

2002-04-10 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin Andre Bonhote quotation: I recently received a mail with about 20 attached files. The sender didn't want to tar it, so I got them attached one by one. IMHO, bounce it, and say give me a break, dude, use tar. -- Shawn McMahon| Information may want to be free

Re: Confusion on PGP parts

2002-04-09 Thread Shawn McMahon
? The short answer; the way you're doing it now. The long answer can be found here: ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc3156.txt -- Shawn McMahon| Information may want to be free, but fiber http://www.eiv.com | optic cable wants to be one million US AIM

Re: Outhouse on Mutt-Users?

2002-04-08 Thread Shawn McMahon
. -- Shawn McMahon| Information may want to be free, but fiber http://www.eiv.com | optic cable wants to be one million US AIM: spmcmahonfedex, smcmahoneiv | dollars per mile. msg26879/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:02:59PM -0800: taking the attitude of i'm right and the rest of the world is wrong only gets you so far... at least when you're already way outnumbered. Look where it got the Internet. Sticking to documented RFCs, instead of

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:44:22PM -0700: ok, i checked the archives and what i found was that people were talking about dale's p_c_t patch. that does not do what outlook is expecting w.r.t. attachments. It does when I use it. What did you put

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:07:19AM -0500: I totally agree with you. _Communicate_, that is the key word. You signed that with S/MIME, with which OE also has a problem, agreeing with someone whose position was basically don't use PGP/MIME because Outlook

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:29:16AM -0700: it is my understanding that what is necessary to activate it is the p_c_t variable which i have set to ask-no because in most cases i want to do pgp/mime but be able to pick traditional for my outlook

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:39:42AM -0500: I wondered about this the last time but didn't jump in, but since I'm here now... Peter, does $p_c_t work for you for normal messages? I read you to say that it doesn't work the way outhouse expects for

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:58:21AM -0700: that is correct. p_c_t works fine for a simple email message without any attachments; however, as soon as you add an attachment i think mutt figures you're gonna send mime anyway so why not do the pgp that

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:01:18AM -0700: not sure what you mean here. do you want me to send a simple email from outlook or mutt? if mutt, does this suffice? or do you mean an inline sig from mutt? or...? I meant an inline sig from Mutt, but

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:07:52AM -0500: So you can send an attachment to an Outlook user and have the whole thing be signed and that user can happily read and verify both parts. No. IMHO, Dave shouldn't bother making that work. If you really need to

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:29:57AM -0700: manner. now, as we all know, msft isn't going to fix outlook so if i want to correspond securly with outlook users, i need to try and accomodate. PITA but there it is. Let me see if I get this straight:

Re: OT: [TalkBiz] Who's deleting your email (fwd)

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Michael Elkins said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:29:56PM -0800: That's pretty much what yahoo and hotmail do. They will place spam messages in a separate Spam folder so that the user can peruse through it in case something was blocked by accident. Except, in Yahoo's case,

Re: syntax highlighting in mutt

2002-04-05 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:56:14PM -0500: Well, yeah; the same as if you use -R. But it's an editor that's simply in read-only mode, not a pager, and so it is a little clunkier to jump forward by whole pages (you can't just hit the space bar like you do

Re: Feature Request

2002-04-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:39:43AM +0200: feature request denied. macro index c change-folder! That breaks ? for list functionality. It would be better to assign it to another key: macro index I change-folder!\r Then get used to using I when you

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:06:14PM -0700: a mime anyway so why not just add a pgp/mime part? is it even possible to send an application/pgp message with an attachment? No. That's one reason inline signatures are evil. msg26729/pgp0.pgp

Re: gnupg signing w/ mutt

2002-04-04 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:49:15PM -0700: that this would be considered broken by today's standards. i guess if i want mutt to handle things the same way for those of my recipients who have to use outlook, i'm going to have to fix mutt or has

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-03 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Mark J. Reed said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:35:25PM -0500: In cases where there was an even wider divergence between the BSD and System V commands (the ps(1) command being the most infamous example), you may find the BSD version in /usr/ucb (this is analogous to but

Re: echo $EUID

2002-04-03 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Mark J. Reed said on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:18:57AM -0500: You can also put two 'w's on /usr/ucb/ps and get the full command line of every process, Nope; it has a cutoff after a certain number of characters, and there's nothing you can do about it. We ran into this

Re: pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0

2002-04-02 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thomas Roessler said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 05:59:32PM +0200: OpenPGP specifies application/pgp, but that breaks some MUAs that don't follow the OpenPGP RFC. Where does the OpenPGP RFC specify that? Sorry, I mispoke; it was another standard that specified that, and it

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Dave Smith said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 05:33:36PM +0100: You could succumb to the non-standards-following world and use the pgp_create_traditional variable. There are also other ways of signing My two cents: Succumb. Inline sigs are annoying, and when you get a

Re: message signing

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:37:49AM -0700: just wondering why the non-standards-following option contains the word traditional. Because usage of PGP predates the establishment of standards. helpfull and it sort of relates to mutt...what is the

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:58:17PM +0100: My mistake. Same here. Solaris doesn't like the '-s' switch for hostname. So I have to use 'hostname | cut ...' the get the short form. uname -n Works on both Linux and Solaris. msg26487/pgp0.pgp

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 11:25:20PM +0100: ... but it doesn't help at all if people don't submit their key because of paranoia. What's most annoying are the folks who not only don't submit their key, but they also don't put it on their web page, or they

Re: gpg-key probs

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:02:23PM +0200: Hi, On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:07:58:PM -0500 ShRen McMahon wrote: ^ Is that a stylistic choice, or is your config broken? msg26501/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Irony getting in the way (Was: Re: ignore...)

2002-04-01 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:20:32PM +0200: It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 10:34:59PM -0500: ObTopic: I personally feel that X-Mailer should be available just like every X-anything-else, but I don't care much more than that. Any header that's defined in a standard should be controlled, but X-Mailer is not

Compressed patch problems

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
I applied the compressed folders patch, and it seemed to work. mutt -v shows: Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 08:54:39AM -0500: Any header that's defined in a standard should be controlled, but X-Mailer is not defined in a standard. It shouldn't be controlled. What standards are you talking about? http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/

Re: X-Mailer header

2002-03-31 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 10:05:22AM -0500: :- RFC's are *not* standards. Who ever told you so? sigh RFCs are not Standards, but they are standards. If you don't think so, stop using MIME, because it hasn't been adopted as a Standard yet, despite

Re: gpg multible keyrings

2002-03-30 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Michael Tatge said on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 02:43:12PM +0100: I'd like to have an extra keyring for this list. What problem are you trying to solve? msg26422/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
Just to throw a little fuel on the fire: Look in the Sun training catalog, at how they define the products themselves. Solaris 8 Operating Environment. Look at their web page: http://www.sun.com/solaris/ They call it the same thing. Then do a uname -a on a Solaris 8 system: SunOS chtsjs01

Re: OT: OS definition thread

2002-03-29 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David Champion said on Fri, Mar 29, 2002 at 12:58:32PM -0600: No, not really. It's marketing. The definition of OS isn't marketing, it's Computer Science. It's been presented. It agrees with what I said. Get over it. msg26387/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Saving encrypted

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Magnus Bodin said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 06:29:44AM +0100: Wouldn't it be a better solution to keep the whole sent-mail-folder encrypted to myself using the open/close-hook-thingies in the compressed-folders-patch? Probably be easier to put ~/Mail on a cfs filesystem.

Re: gpg-key probs (Was: Re: Tag or delete...)

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Martin Karlsson said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:36:32PM +0100: And I get the same as David. I use 'keyserver pgp.mit.edu'. But you should only have to upload to _one_ keyserver, right? There's more than one keyserver network. However, it's easier to ask somebody what

Re: Keyserver Bug (was: Re: Tag or delete by date or age)

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what mike ledoux said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:27:37AM -0500: and hand out an invalid key. This is a known problem in the keyserver code. You can get a *valid* copy of my key from: http://www.volta.dyndns.org/~mwl/pgpkey.asc Yep, worked peachy. Thanks. As stated

Re: Word and RTF attachments

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what [EMAIL PROTECTED] said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 09:11:12AM -0800: always be right. But I have recieved some email where an RTF file has a '.doc' extension and an 'application/msword' mime type (probably because of the extension). Other than educating the other user, what

Re: gpg-key probs (Was: Re: Tag or delete...)

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 04:14:23PM -0500: Are there just one or two, or are there a bunch, or does anyone really know? Do the servers in a given network synchronize with each other, or do even they have problems? I think there are a few, and some of them

Re: hiding the pgp sig completely from view?

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 07:53:12AM +0100: and i wonder whether there is a way to make mutt's reply command use the filtered text for quoting.. Ok, you want them to vanish for viewing, and vanish for quoting. Why is it that you don't use procmail to

Re: Why is http address attachet to header?

2002-03-28 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Patrik Modesto said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 10:24:42AM +0100: I create new message, then to the first empty line under header i write http://www.something.com and send this mail. This address is send as a part of email's header and body of this mail is empty. Why? Is this

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 08:31:07PM +0100: Just logged into a solaris box. Having set my prompt to 'user@machine' it says that only root may run 'uname'. My response: 'exit'. Did you by any chance have a -S in that uname call? Because that's the only

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Matthew D. Fuller said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 06:49:32AM -0600: I think he actually means 'hostname', not 'uname'; hostname, on any sane system, displays the hostname when called with no args, and tries to set it (requiring root at THAT point) when it has args. Solaris

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 08:28:25AM -0500: Yeah; that was a very funny time. Too bad NT5 was renamed to Win2000 and announced just ONE DAY before the fantastic announcement of Solaris 7, the Operating System Rushed Out The Door In Time To Have A Higher

Re: pgp_create_traditional in 1.5.0

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:55:08AM -0500: % has been changed so that application/pgp is no longer used (although % there's an x-mutt-action=pgp-sign flag in the content/type so that mutt % knows it's signed). those changes are from Thomas Roessler. I

Re: Tag or delete by date or age

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what mike ledoux said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:29:20PM -0500: gpg: requesting key 57C3430B from wwwkeys.us.pgp.net ... gpg: key 57C3430B: invalid subkey binding gpg: key 57C3430B: no valid user IDs gpg: this may be caused by a missing self-signature Sign your key and

Re: Tag or delete by date or age

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:40:46PM -0500: % Sign your key and re-submit it. Better check what you have, too. If my key wasn't signed, GPG wouldn't accept it. msg26307/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Tag or delete by date or age

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what David T-G said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:55:19PM -0500: No, no -- I meant that you had better check your copy of his key; as shown, it works fine for me. I don't have a copy of his key; GPG attempted to import it from the keyserver, but the one on the keyserver didn't

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Ricardo SIGNES said on Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 07:40:44PM -0500: Except that Linux is only the kernel. Linux + GNU + some other files and configuration is the OS. That, plus some applications is the distribution. You're wrong. msg26331/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: hiding the pgp sig completely from view?

2002-03-27 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 03:37:11AM +0100: but - is there a way I can just *hide* the pgp sig *completely* from view? Do you still want to verify the sigs, or not? If not, you could strip them with procmail. msg26333/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:04:14AM +0100: Just wondering why 1524 is so important to you... You lost me. To the best of my knowledge, I have never discussed RFC1524 in this or any other mailing list, prior to this exchange. RFC1521 is important to me

Re: mailbox question

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 09:55:29AM +: I didn't think this list could be posted to by non members. I am now going to have to find your address and copy-paste it up to the CC line. No, you don't have to. You choose to. Many people wouldn't. IMHO,

Re: Mail is not reaching destination

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Sven Guckes said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 04:31:52PM +0100: like i said: mutt is *not* for everyone All users suck. mutt is for users who suck less. msg26149/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: M$ Outhouse E. for UNIX

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Simon White said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 05:41:05PM +: Text based rules, but in Solaris you are stuck with CDE anyway, it's not worth shit without CDE. I've had luck in the past with GNOME, and evidently Sun doesn't totally disagree, since they're moving to GNOME as

Re: mailbox question

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Matthias Weiss said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:26:43PM +0100: What do I gain from this when I have 3 mailing list on one and another 4 lists on the other account? The ability to use mailing lists to help you solve problems without committing ettiquette errors that cause

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 02:59:37PM -0700: [0] This officially means that every single binary on my entire system is GPL'd ;) You don't have ps? What are you using instead? msg26222/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:29:08PM -0700: I don't use ps. Or any replacements. Ok. Do you use vim? msg26224/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-26 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 07:02:10PM -0800: /home/william/procps-2.0.7/ps ladd% head COPYING GNU LIBRARY GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE You quoted it right there; it's not GPL, it's LGPL. I was yanking Rob's chain, because he's an evil

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 06:12:41AM +0100: Not that I know, but it is quite dangerous to talk about Outlook in the context of mail clients. Oh, it is a mail client, it's just not an Internet mail client. At the very least, it doesn't read

Re: setting content type in email header with mutt

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Donna Koenig said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 11:39:39AM -0500: Situation is: We want to send out email that is html, but for those who only accept or access text email, we wnat them to be able to open the email also. OK, let me see if I get this right: You want to

Re: mailers with scripting/setup language

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 07:58:17PM +0100: At the very least, it doesn't read RFC1521-compliant mails as recommended in the standard. Which has status informational only. Ok, first, wrong, it's standards-track, not informational. However, it *IS* the

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:31:36PM -0700: Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;) Jesse Owens. Jesse Ventura. Insist on the same spelling? Ok. Jessy

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:44:26PM -0700: Besides, I'm only doing it to Incredimail users. I mean, if they want to accost me with tons of useless X- headers, I shouldn't have to put up with them (the headers, not the people) :P If you want elegant:

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 01:25:23PM -0700: I'd rather just rip off all the useless headers with an elegant 3-line procmail recipie than have to hide them all with 10 or 20 lines of ignore statements. You can have it both ways; use Procmail to

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:05:45PM -0700: That brings us back to the first problem though: How do I ignore X-Nuke without ignoring the other X- headers? (without using the huge mess david posted). ignore received x-nuke msg26096/pgp0.pgp

Re: ignore command does not seem to work

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:34:48PM -0700: ignore received x-nuke There are other headers I want to hide though. When I said have procmail prepend all the bad headers, I meant every header you'd like to hide. The only headers that I _want_ to see

Re: Saving encrypted

2002-03-25 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Alan Batie said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 02:03:24PM -0800: first place. I discovered the fcc_clear option, which saves the message unencrypted and have been living with that, but what I *really* want is to save them encrypted to *me*. Mutt doesn't do that, but PGP does.

Re: Encrypting my outgoing messages to myself for fcc

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Robert Conde said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:20:46PM -0500: When I send a pgp encrypted message to someone, I can't read it in my fcc folder. I set the fcc_clear variable so that the FCC is stored unencrypted. I read in some FAQ that it's possible to configure Mutt

ignore/unignore

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
Look at the man page; it doesn't say anything about the order of ignore or unignore statements. It just says unignore is a list of exceptions to the ignore statement(s). That's the precedence; unignores are exceptions, they take precedence over ignores no matter what. man muttrc

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:09:42PM +0200: Ah well, I've decided not to use signed mails in mailing lists if there isn't any reason for me to do it. What matters, is, that PGP works with my Mutt - whole other thing is, if I use it... ;-) The same reasons

Re: PGP signing (newbie)

2002-03-24 Thread Shawn McMahon
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100: There are several things different between broadcasts and point-to-point connection, as you sure know. Yes. For instance, there are far more people who would be impacted by a forgery. There are also far more

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