Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-04 Thread Nemo Thorx
Quoting Chris Green from 02 Oct (a Friday in 2020) at 1657 hours... > > ... by the way I just timed a 'du' on my main directory full of > (maildir) directories:- > > chris$ time du -sm * > real0m0.109s > user0m0.032s > sys 0m0.076s > > > (and, no, I didn't cheat,

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-03 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 03Oct2020 08:51, Chris Green wrote: >On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 02:47:46PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: >> >Even *copying* the whole of my 1.5Gb mail hierarchy takes only 8 >> >seconds. >> >> Looks like your filesystem is superior to mine. Mine's MacOS apfs, I >> presume yours is a good Linux fs

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-03 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Oct 03, 2020 at 02:47:46PM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 02Oct2020 16:57, Chris Green wrote: > >... by the way I just timed a 'du' on my main directory full of > >(maildir) directories:- > > > >chris$ time du -sm * > [...] > >real0m0.109s > >user0m0.032s > >

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-02 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 02Oct2020 16:57, Chris Green wrote: >... by the way I just timed a 'du' on my main directory full of >(maildir) directories:- > >chris$ time du -sm * [...] >real0m0.109s >user0m0.032s >sys 0m0.076s > >(and, no, I didn't cheat, that was a 'cold start' du, I hadn't

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-02 Thread Chris Green
On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 10:36:44AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > I haven't made this point yet since I regard it as almost irrelevant > given the above, but I would also argue it's not particularly useful > information, except in the context of disk space management--which has > nothing to do

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-02 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 10:01:21AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:56:56PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:21:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > I can't say why Christian gets dates

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-10-01 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:56:56PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:21:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > The same place in a mbox

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-30 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:21:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > The same place in a mbox hierarchy shows me the size of the maibox and > > > the date of the last

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 09:49:52AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > I have 'set folder_format="%N %-32.32f %m %n"'. I did have a date as > > well but all that shows is 'Sep 25' the date of creation of the > > maildir which is no use at

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-29 Thread Christian Ebert
* Derek Martin on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 09:49:52 -0500: On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: I have 'set folder_format="%N %-32.32f %m %n"'. I did have a date as well but all that shows is 'Sep 25' the date of creation of the maildir which is no use at all,

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-29 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:30:42AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 07:01:25PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 08:29:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > This is by no means a show stopper, I'm going to stay with maildir, > > > > > but it woud be nice

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-29 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 06:55:51PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 05:02:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > However there is a minor downside in the file browser (well directory > > browser really isn't it), the information shown against the > > directories (at the bottom

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-29 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 07:01:25PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 08:29:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > > This is by no means a show stopper, I'm going to stay with maildir, > > > > but it woud be nice to be able to improve it a bit. > > > > > > I'd recommend using a

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 10:10:28PM -0400, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek wrote: > On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 18:55:51 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > ... > > On Unix systems, at least > > for most file systems, the size of a directory is the space occupied > > by the blocks needed to hold the internal

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 18:55:51 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: ... > On Unix systems, at least > for most file systems, the size of a directory is the space occupied > by the blocks needed to hold the internal representation of the > listing of the directory... Yes, the size on directories is

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 06:09:49PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > Yes, Olaf Hering submitted a patch in 1.10, zeroing out the directory size > for the reason you site below: > > > However the size of a directory is very likely not what you think it is, > > and is not particularly useful to

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 26Sep2020 20:29, Chris Green wrote: >On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:13:11PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: >> That's most likely a "last edited" date. Adding flags or labels to a >> message would have reset that time as well. These directories were last >> edited on the date you created them, so not

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 06:55:51PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: There IS size info, although it's wrong... That appears to be a bug introduced some time after 1.9.4, which I have lying around, that has it right. I also have 1.12.2 where it is wrong, so... somewhere in between. Yes, Olaf

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 08:29:22PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > That's most likely a "last edited" date. Adding flags or labels to a > > message would have reset that time as well. These directories were last > > edited on the date you created them, so not much is going to change > > that. You'd

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-28 Thread Derek Martin
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 05:02:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > However there is a minor downside in the file browser (well directory > browser really isn't it), the information shown against the > directories (at the bottom level these are maildir mailboxes) is > pretty useless, what I am seeing

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-27 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sun, Sep 27, 2020 at 10:07:41 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Are you using maildir? Have been from the start. I use offlineimap to sync my mail from a number of accounts and then let mutt work with those. --Ben

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-27 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 06:52:23PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 21:59:43 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Er, um, that is what I'm using - and have been using for more years > > than I like to remember! > > Hmm. The dates I have in my folder listing seem to be "last modified"

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 21:59:43 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Er, um, that is what I'm using - and have been using for more years > than I like to remember! Hmm. The dates I have in my folder listing seem to be "last modified" including messages being added or removed: 0.1K Sep 26 11:55

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 04:54:56PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 20:29:22 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > They're on a fast SSD on the same system as mutt is running on so > > 'very expensive' is probably not an issue. > > Typical tools like `ls` don't know that. GUI browsers

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 20:29:22 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > They're on a fast SSD on the same system as mutt is running on so > 'very expensive' is probably not an issue. Typical tools like `ls` don't know that. GUI browsers might be smarter, but that hasn't been consistent IME. Not sure about

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Chris Green
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:13:11PM -0400, Ben Boeckel wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 17:02:08 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > However there is a minor downside in the file browser (well directory > > browser really isn't it), the information shown against the > > directories (at the bottom level

Re: Getting more useful information in file browser - possible with maildir?

2020-09-26 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 17:02:08 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > However there is a minor downside in the file browser (well directory > browser really isn't it), the information shown against the > directories (at the bottom level these are maildir mailboxes) is > pretty useless, what I am seeing now