Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-29 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % that you'll never again fall prey to a corrupted mailbox due to % a delivery occurring at the wrong time. % % But shouldn't well-behaved MTAs and MUAs perform locking that % prevents this from happening?

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-28 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * Thomas Hurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011127 15:43]: The other thing, which it seems is often overlooked and underappreciated, is the ability to use nice things like grep, find, xargs and the like on your mail the way it oughta work. Hm, is there a

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-28 Thread David T-G
Thomas -- ...and then Thomas Hurst said... % * Vineet Kumar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: % % * Thomas Hurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011127 15:43]: % % The other thing, which it seems is often overlooked and % underappreciated, is the ability to use nice things like grep, find, % xargs and the

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-28 Thread Samuel Padgett
Vineet Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that it eats inodes for breakfast? This is my experience, yes. Another advantage is peace of mind that you'll never again fall prey to a

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-28 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
Sam, This is my experience, yes. Another advantage is peace of mind that you'll never again fall prey to a corrupted mailbox due to a delivery occurring at the wrong time. But shouldn't well-behaved MTAs and MUAs perform locking that prevents this from happening? Yes, they should

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % % Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think % % they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. % % Can it write MMDF or save

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, Ahhh... It reads anything and writes only its own (well, OK, mbox); urgh. Actually, Gnus writes a bunch of stuff: mbox, IMAP, nnml, babyl, MH spool,

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % % It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, % % Ahhh... It reads anything and writes only its own (well, OK, mbox); % urgh. % % Actually, Gnus

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date % header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the Makes sense -- if it's there. I just checked another message to see and there

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Thomas Hurst
* Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that it eats inodes for breakfast? I was under the impression Maildir was extremely slow, just without locking issues, making it a good option for pop3 servers. I do tend to leave

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % % Mutt seems to use the values out of the Sender header and the Date % % header to construct the From_ line. So maybe the solution is the % % Makes sense -- if it's

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Dairy Wall Limey
Thomas Hurst wrote: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that it eats inodes for breakfast? I was under the impression Maildir was extremely slow, just without locking issues, making it a good option for pop3 servers.

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-27 Thread Vineet Kumar
* Thomas Hurst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [011127 15:43]: * Samuel Padgett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: So the advantage of Maildir is speed, and the disadvantage is that it eats inodes for breakfast? This is my experience, yes. Another advantage is peace of mind that you'll never again fall prey

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index How did you move them? What's the other MUA's format? [What's the other MUA?] % Mutt shows the date I moved the

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index How did you move them? What's the other MUA's format? [What's the other MUA?] I

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index % % How did you move them?

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since there was no From_ header before, Gnus had to make one up somehow. Makes sense. Can you export to Maildir instead? You could then read that in with mutt and save to mbox. Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think they're

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread David T-G
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % Since there was no From_ header before, Gnus had to make one up % somehow. % % Makes sense. % % Can you export to Maildir instead? You could then read that in % with mutt and save to mbox. % % Hm. Gnus

Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?

2001-11-26 Thread Samuel Padgett
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think % they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. Can it write MMDF or save to an IMAP server, both of which mutt also speaks