Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-27 Thread jeremy bentham
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 01:16:24PM +0300, Alexander Gattin wrote: I tried my best to not give a clueless advice this time, so before suggesting to omit the user@ part from smtp_url I studied the mutt-1.5.20/smtp.c source: if (conn-account.flags M_ACCT_USER) { if (!mutt_bit_isset

Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-26 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 06:08:10PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: I'm sure I tried that--I didn't record everything I did, but that is something I _would_ try. I tried my best to not give a clueless advice this time, so before suggesting to omit the user@ part from smtp_url I studied the

Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-25 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 05:23:36PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: 3.263. smtp_authenticators Type: string [...] Yes. I found this. I tried various values, including the empty string, and nothing changed. probably, mutt uses default authenticators list when

Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-25 Thread jeremy bentham
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:13:15AM +0300, Alexander Gattin wrote: [...] msmtp does SMTP well, and I use msmtp instead of smtp_url -- that's why my advices earlier in the thread missed the target. I have the last suggestion though: try to omit user@ part from smtp_url. I'm sure I tried

Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-24 Thread jeremy bentham
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 07:45:32PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * jeremy bentham d...@eskimo.com [06-23-12 19:36]: ... Ok, I installed msmtp and after a bit of flailing about got it working. Part of the flailing included an error message from mail.eskimo.com that it didn't support

Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-23 Thread jeremy bentham
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 06:37:54PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: On Jun 22 you wrote: Hello, On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 05:06:40PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: [stuff about inability to send mail from my own machine's mutt] instant connection refused, with either smtp or smtps,

Re: mail relaying [solved, sort of]

2012-06-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* jeremy bentham d...@eskimo.com [06-23-12 19:36]: ... Ok, I installed msmtp and after a bit of flailing about got it working. Part of the flailing included an error message from mail.eskimo.com that it didn't support authentication. So I suppose it's puking when mutt insists. msmtp

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-22 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 05:06:40PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: instant connection refused, with either smtp or smtps, ssl_starttls yes or no. I've checked ports on mail.eskimo.com with nmap: PORT STATESERVICE 25/tcp open smtp 465/tcp closed smtps 587/tcp filtered

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-22 Thread jeremy bentham
On Jun 22 you wrote: Hello, On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 05:06:40PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: instant connection refused, with either smtp or smtps, ssl_starttls yes or no. I've checked ports on mail.eskimo.com with nmap: PORT STATESERVICE 25/tcp open smtp 465/tcp

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-21 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 06:24:37PM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: I found by experimenting that imap works as well as pop: if I start an imap session before I try to send an e-mail, I can send; otherwise I can't. I think that POP-before-SMTP and IMAP-before-SMTP should work just fine

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-21 Thread jeremy bentham
On Jun 21 you wrote: ... incoming-folders=Mail/[] eski {mail.eskimo.com/ssl/novalidate-cert}mail/today As I understand, mail.eskimo.com/ssl translates to smtp_url=smtps://u...@mail.eskimo.com:465, i.e. it's SSL from the beginning, not STARTTLS, and it's served on port 465, not 587 or 25.

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-20 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, June 20, 2012 a las 01:11:05AM -0500, Breno Colom escribió: As a side question related to this: is it possible that mutt writes some kind of log file of sent mail like sendmail does to /var/log/maillog ? I don't think you can log the actual SMTP session with the builtin

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-20 Thread Breno Colom
* Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de [2012-06-20 07:26:40 +0200]: El día Tuesday, June 19, 2012 a las 03:00:50PM -0400, Tim Gray escribió: Not sure if I can help you, but a simple config line works for me with my SMTP server, when I use it directly from mutt: set

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-20 Thread Alexander Gattin
Hello, On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:47:53AM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: I can't send mail from my local machine, using my isp's smtp server. I can do it just fine from pine, providing I have started an imap session on one of my isp's machines. (I'm doing this message in pine). This looks

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-20 Thread jeremy bentham
On Jun 20 you wrote: Hello, On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 11:47:53AM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: I can't send mail from my local machine, using my isp's smtp server. I can do it just fine from pine, providing I have started an imap session on one of my isp's machines. (I'm doing this

mail relaying

2012-06-19 Thread jeremy bentham
I recently switched to mutt from pine, and I like it a lot, except for one thing: I can't send mail from my local machine, using my isp's smtp server. I can do it just fine from pine, providing I have started an imap session on one of my isp's machines. (I'm doing this message in pine). But,

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-19 Thread Tim Gray
On Jun 19, 2012 at 11:47 AM -0700, jeremy bentham wrote: What simple, head-smacking thing have I overlooked? Not sure if I can help you, but a simple config line works for me with my SMTP server, when I use it directly from mutt: set smtp_url=smtp://u...@smtp.example.com:587 Port 587

Re: mail relaying

2012-06-19 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, June 19, 2012 a las 03:00:50PM -0400, Tim Gray escribió: Not sure if I can help you, but a simple config line works for me with my SMTP server, when I use it directly from mutt: set smtp_url=smtp://u...@smtp.example.com:587 Port 587 on my SMTP server is TLS. ...