Re: display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)

2020-12-04 Thread Zenithal
> However this does not work Well can you invoke `w3m` in attachment menu? You may add `auto_view image/*` in your muttrc to get `w3m` invoked automatically. > and gives me the options of w3m in the mutt window It is strange that with `copious output` your mailcap still works. In my test when

display images inline in xterm (while using mutt)

2020-12-03 Thread Globe Trotter via Mutt-users
Hi, If I use w3m -o ext_image_viewer=0 test.png, I can get the file test.png inside xterm. I wanted to do the same on my mutt window (inside xterm). How do I do this? I tried putting: image/*;w3m -o ext_imageviewer=0 %s; copious output However this does not work and gives me the options

Re: [SOLVED] Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-26 Thread Felix Finch
On 20201126, tech-lists wrote: Right now I don't know if the old mutt to new mutt is the cause or if there's been a change that they at the mail hosting have done which has occurred at the same time as mutt v1 -> mutt v2. It might not be an issue with mutt at all. There was a warn

Re: [SOLVED] Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-26 Thread tech-lists
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 04:03:53PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: I'd normally say to double check $imap_check_subscribed is unset, but that option is quite old. Perhaps something has changed in the code there, but I'm not recalling anything right now. Well, you were right, it was enabled!

Re: [SOLVED] Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-26 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 11:48:28PM +, tech-lists wrote: What was happening before (mutt v.1.x) was mutt would log in, scan the imap folders i'd configured for it in .muttrc-lists (and *only* those folders, no others) then return and this was quick on an average dsl line. What

[SOLVED] Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-26 Thread tech-lists
Hi, I *think* i've found the reason for the lagginess. Hopefully what's here will be of use to others. With mutt, for this address I make a config file, launch mutt in a screen with -F. On the remote system, I have a lot of different folders which I'll use with different email addresses

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-26 Thread tech-lists
Hi, ktrace shows (as best I can interpret it) when mutt is "woken up" it re-uses the connection to the imap server somehow. It's exchanging information, not sure what. But it's a big segment like a half page full in kdump. So maybe the answer is in idle parameters. I'll re-do

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread tech-lists
On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 10:34:30AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: Probably. I don't have a FreeBSD box to hand. Is yours a Raspberry? yup, rpi4 with 8GB Have you got ktrace and kdump? Less interactive, but IIRC the process is to ktrace your mutt command and kdump the resulting log file. I

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Nov2020 22:33, tech-lists wrote: >On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:01:03AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: >>A way to check this would be to have another window open running: >> >> strace -p pid-of-idle-mutt-process >> >>Get that ready. Wait for idle

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Nov2020 17:56, Patrick Shanahan wrote: >* tech-lists [11-25-20 17:55]: >> On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:43:21PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: >> > possibly reinstall strace. for my openSUSE Tumbleweed system I >> > show: strace-5.9-1.1.x86_64 >> > >> > your version is quite old and version

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* tech-lists [11-25-20 17:55]: > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:43:21PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > possibly reinstall strace. for my openSUSE Tumbleweed system I show: > > strace-5.9-1.1.x86_64 > > > > your version is quite old and version number appear to reflect the kernel >

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread tech-lists
Hi, On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 05:43:21PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: possibly reinstall strace. for my openSUSE Tumbleweed system I show: strace-5.9-1.1.x86_64 your version is quite old and version number appear to reflect the kernel version. what kernel are you running, 4.5.x ?? I'm

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Hokan
IIRC I just went with the ports/mail/mutt defaults. I selected ispell because I'm more used to the ispell interface. Now-a-days it's all aspell under the covers. On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:19:57PM +, tech-lists wrote: > Hello, > > On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 09:59:30AM -0600, Ho

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* tech-lists [11-25-20 17:36]: > Hi, > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:01:03AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > A way to check this would be to have another window open running: > > > > strace -p pid-of-idle-mutt-process > > > > Get that ready. Wait fo

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread tech-lists
Hi, On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 09:01:03AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: A way to check this would be to have another window open running: strace -p pid-of-idle-mutt-process Get that ready. Wait for idleness. Resume. See where it stalls. If that is hard to observe interactively, strace has

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread tech-lists
Hello, On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 09:59:30AM -0600, Hokan wrote: I am running a month-old FreeBSD-CURRENT on an RPI-4 (8GB) and could not replicate the problem. thanks for posting yr config. Your mutt is compiled just slightly differently: hcache backend: Berkeley DB 5.3.28: (September 9

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 25Nov2020 14:19, tech-lists wrote: >I'm finding mutt significantly more laggy to resume on later >versions (=>2.x) than say 1.5.21. > >Let's say there's the list of emails in a folder already selected. If >I use up or down arrow for example, it'll sit for 3-4 secon

Re: mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread Hokan
I am running a month-old FreeBSD-CURRENT on an RPI-4 (8GB) and could not replicate the problem. Mutt 2.0.2 (2020-11-20) Copyright (C) 1996-2020 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome

mutt seems laggy to resume on v.2.x

2020-11-25 Thread tech-lists
Hi, I'm finding mutt significantly more laggy to resume on later versions (=>2.x) than say 1.5.21. Let's say there's the list of emails in a folder already selected. If I use up or down arrow for example, it'll sit for 3-4 seconds doing nothing and then move. But once moving, i

mutt 2.0.2 released

2020-11-20 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
Hello Mutt Users, I've just released version 2.0.2. Instructions for downloading are available at <http://www.mutt.org/download.html>, or the tarball can be directly downloaded from <http://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/>. Please take the time to verify the signature file against m

Re: mutt saves sent email in the wrong account's sent folder

2020-11-18 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 10:28:49AM -0500, thropemisan14 wrote: I have multiple accounts configured in muttrc, the first account being an outlook account and then 3 gmail accounts. When I send an email from the outlook account, the email is sometimes saved in the correct sent folder, i.e in the

mutt saves sent email in the wrong account's sent folder

2020-11-17 Thread thropemisan14
Hello everyone, I'm having a weird issue with mutt and I hope someone here can help with an advice on how to fix it. I have multiple accounts configured in muttrc, the first account being an outlook account and then 3 gmail accounts. When I send an email from the outlook account, the email

mutt 2.0.1 released

2020-11-14 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
Hello Mutt Users, I've just released version 2.0.1. As usual, instructions for downloading are available at <http://www.mutt.org/download.html>, or the tarball can be directly downloaded from <http://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/>. Please take the time to verify the signature file again

Re: Managing identities without suspending Mutt

2020-11-12 Thread Gregory Heytings
-mutt-commands`' Then your shell script can run your menu selection of identity (use /dev/tty for the output here, since stdout will be going back to mutt) and then have it write whatever you like to mutt, for example an instruction to source an identity setup file. Thank you very much

Re: Managing identities without suspending Mutt

2020-11-12 Thread Cameron Simpson
pt output. macro index A ':`shell-script-emitting-mutt-commands`' Then your shell script can run your menu selection of identity (use /dev/tty for the output here, since stdout will be going back to mutt) and then have it write whatever you like to mutt, for example an instruction to source an

Re: Managing identities without suspending Mutt

2020-11-11 Thread Gregory Heytings
Hi Ken, Thank you for your answer! But this does not answer my question: I know that it is possible to manage multiple identities that way, and I was trying to find something more flexible. Gregory

Re: Managing identities without suspending Mutt

2020-11-10 Thread Ken Moffat
On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 10:15:36PM +, Gregory Heytings wrote: > > Hi list, > > Is there a trick to execute a macro after a shell-escape which asks for user > input? I currently have: > > macro index A 'shell-script ' > macro index B 'source ~/.mutt/mutt-script'

Managing identities without suspending Mutt

2020-11-10 Thread Gregory Heytings
Hi list, Is there a trick to execute a macro after a shell-escape which asks for user input? I currently have: macro index A 'shell-script ' macro index B 'source ~/.mutt/mutt-script' shell-script writes mutt-script, and I'd like to do 'B' when 'A' returns, without having to press 'B

Re: Tutorial for mutt IMAP with gmail address

2020-11-10 Thread Stefano Pardini
On 091120, 21:30, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > Can someone recommend a tutorial of configuring mutt to work with > gmail IMAP directly via the muttrc file? > > Thanks, > > David Hi David, Before you can create a dir .mutt and then run the command touch .passwordgmail you

Re: Tutorial for mutt IMAP with gmail address

2020-11-09 Thread ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್
: he/him/his 09/11/20 21:30 ನಲ್ಲಿ, "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." ಬರೆದರು: > > Can someone recommend a tutorial of configuring mutt to work with > gmail IMAP directly via the muttrc file? > > Thanks, > > David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: ProtonMail wmgEARYIABAFA

Tutorial for mutt IMAP with gmail address

2020-11-09 Thread D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
Can someone recommend a tutorial of configuring mutt to work with gmail IMAP directly via the muttrc file? Thanks, David

Re: mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
for programmability. I also love now neatly using Lisp's bracketed syntax inserted into mutt lines as a clean escape into Lisp. I was excited by the possibility too. :-) However, just so everyone is clear, MuttLisp is more of a syntactic enhancement for the muttrc than a real language. You can use

Re: mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 05:14:29PM -0600, Hokan wrote: Looking at the release notes I wonder what is the difference between oauthbearer and xoauth2. xoauth2 is deprecated, but some providers, e.g. Microsoft, are still using it. I have oauth working with Gmail using oauthbearer. One

Re: mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Sam Kuper
On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 01:46:16PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > My thanks to [the contributors], and to all the others who helped by > submitting tickets, testing, doing translation, and just providing > moral support. :-) Mutt is one of a tiny handful of habitable islands in the r

Re: mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Cameron Simpson
yet functional thing to choose to embed for programmability. I also love now neatly using Lisp's bracketed syntax inserted into mutt lines as a clean escape into Lisp. For everyone's amusement: https://www.netfunny.com/rhf/jokes/90q2/lispcode.html Many thanks! Cameron Simpson , a primar

Re: mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Hokan
Cool! Looking at the release notes I wonder what is the difference between oauthbearer and xoauth2. I have oauth working with Gmail using oauthbearer. One motivation for switching, if xoauth2 also works with Gmail, is that the python script supporting oauthbearer is python2 (deprecated) and I

mutt 2.0.0 released

2020-11-07 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
Hello Mutt Users, I'm pleased to announce the release of version 2.0.0. Instructions for downloading are available at <http://www.mutt.org/download.html>, or the tarball can be directly downloaded from <http://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/>. Please take the time to verify the si

Re: is sort_sidebar deprecated in mutt?

2020-10-23 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 02:20:20PM +, Globe wrote in : Hi, New to mutt but I put the following in my .muttrc file, as per examples online: set sort_sidebar = desc However, when I start mutt, I get: Error in /home/gt/.muttrc, line 217: sort_sidebar: unknown variable source: errors

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-10-01 Thread Sam Kuper
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:39:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >>> I've attached them here anyway. >> >> Thanks :) Would you be willing to mention a license? [..] > > OK,

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30Sep2020 15:20, Sam Kuper wrote: >On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 02:18:08PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: >> Absolutely no problem, is there a place to put them on mutt.org? [..] >> I keep the code in mercurial [..] > >Best bet would probably be to: > >1. Upload the files to a code hosting repository:

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 04:50:19PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 03:20:50PM +0100, Sam Kuper wrote: 2. Having done that, I guess you could (subject to Kevin McCarthy's approval - he's the Mutt maintainer and I can't speak for him) perhaps edit https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
on mutt.org? [..] > > I keep the code in mercurial [..] > > Best bet would probably be to: > > 1. Upload the files to a code hosting repository: gitlab.com; > sourcehut.org; notabug.org; or similar. (Sourcehut.org supports > Mercurial directly; I think the others only support

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
r = open("/home/chris/tmp/mail.err", 'a') # # # Some constants (i.e. configuration) # home = "/home/chris" logfile = home + "/tmp/mail.log" filtfile = home + "/.mutt/filter" mldir = home + "/mail/" indir = mldir + "In/" judir = mldir + "Ju

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
pository: gitlab.com; sourcehut.org; notabug.org; or similar. (Sourcehut.org supports Mercurial directly; I think the others only support Git.) 2. Having done that, I guess you could (subject to Kevin McCarthy's approval - he's the Mutt maintainer and I can't speak for him) perhaps edit https://gitlab.

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Patrick Shanahan
driven from one text file so that when I subscribe to a new > > > mailing list all I have to do is add an entry to that file. No > > > changing of procmail rules, no additions to muttrc. I have attached > > > the filter file to this message, the comments exp

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Chris Green
> mailing list all I have to do is add an entry to that file. No > > changing of procmail rules, no additions to muttrc. I have attached > > the filter file to this message, the comments explain it at least as > > well as I can here. [..] > > > > # Mail fil

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
o muttrc. I have attached > the filter file to this message, the comments explain it at least as > well as I can here. [..] > > # Mail filterfile, used to generate Mutt aliases and for filtering > # mail into mailboxes, it's used by:- > # getAliases.py - generates mutt aliase

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-30 Thread Sam Kuper
y is >> the correct thing, as defined by whoever came up with it, and is what >> is needed for all(?) mail software that deals with maildir to work. IIRC: - Maildir was invented by Daniel J. Bernstein, author of the Qmail MTA. - Maildir++, which extends Maildir, was invented by Sam

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 30Sep2020 12:44, raf wrote: >On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 11:38:06AM +1000, Cameron Simpson >wrote: >> I dropped procmail years ago too, [...] > >I didn't drop procmail. I wrote a program to >generate procmail code from a set of prettier >config files. :-) Oh, so did I. Look up cats2procmailrc,

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread raf
ist all I have to do is add an entry to that file. No > >changing of procmail rules, no additions to muttrc. I have attached > >the filter file to this message, the comments explain it at least as > >well as I can here. > > Nice. That is very compact. > > I dropped procmail

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Cameron Simpson
attached >the filter file to this message, the comments explain it at least as >well as I can here. Nice. That is very compact. I dropped procmail years ago too, and my filer rules for eg the mutt lists look like this: mutt Mutt-Dev sender:owner-mutt-...@mutt.org muttMutt-

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Nemo Thorx
filter file to this message, the comments explain it at least as > well as I can here. I found some procmail magic years ago which drops mail into a new mailbox matching the list name (assuming it has sane headers) with zero updates to any files needed! That said, I don't use the mutt aliases

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-29 Thread Chris Green
t; > It was basically quite simple to do, mostly using 'find', first to > > create a copy of my old mbox directory hierarchy and then to run mb2md > > against each mbox to the required destination in the new hierarchy. > > > > Obviously there were a few changes to my mutt

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-28 Thread Derek Martin
my old mbox directory hierarchy and then to run mb2md > against each mbox to the required destination in the new hierarchy. > > Obviously there were a few changes to my muttrc to tell mutt to create > maildir rather than mbox and the delivery/filter program run by > .forward has to

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-25 Thread Chris Green
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 09:02:29AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:11:24PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > >

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-24 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 10:11:24PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > > m

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > maildir directory name? I'm not sure why you think Mutt is doing this... I have my maildi

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 23Sep2020 14:58, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: >On 2020-09-23 04:07, Chris Green wrote: > >>I think I might try that second idea, I can run mb2md (as you say) >>2354 times and get the layout I want. Then I can try mutt on it and >>see if it's practical. > > >Does

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On 2020-09-23 04:07, Chris Green wrote: I think I might try that second idea, I can run mb2md (as you say) 2354 times and get the layout I want. Then I can try mutt on it and see if it's practical. Does mb2md convert message attributes? (Message has been read, message has been replied

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 23Sep2020 09:11, Chris Green wrote: >> I don't browse from within mutt (but see Kevin's reply) but I do have >> a >> directory hierarchy. Admittedly it is shallow and does not have Maildirs >> inside Maildirs, but my own folders are like this: >> >> ~/m

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 08:20:11AM +1000, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 22Sep2020 17:46, Chris Green wrote: > >Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > >'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > >maildir directory name? >

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 10:40:09PM -0400, Kurt Hackenberg wrote: > On 2020-09-22 13:30, Chris Green wrote: > > > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the >

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-23 Thread Chris Green
On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 09:44:22AM +1000, raf wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > > 'f

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Kurt Hackenberg
On 2020-09-22 13:30, Chris Green wrote: Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the maildir directory name? Is there some way I can get to use real directories to represent my hierarchy of mail? Originally

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread raf
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 06:30:52PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > > m

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 22Sep2020 17:46, Chris Green wrote: >Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail >'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the >maildir directory name? Are you talking about browsing a Maildir hierarchy from mutt, or just the physical

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the maildir directory name? Starting in Mutt 1.12, there is a new function in the browser menu. This can

Re: Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Chris Green
On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 05:46:53PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail > 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the > maildir directory name? > > Is there some way I can get to use real directories

Can mutt be persuaded to use a sensible maildir hierarchy?

2020-09-22 Thread Chris Green
Does mutt still use the (IMHO silly) maildir hierarchy where mail 'folders' are simply represented by another '.' and name in the maildir directory name? Is there some way I can get to use real directories to represent my hierarchy of mail? I manually rearrange my mail sometimes and to deal

mutt 1.14.7 released

2020-08-29 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
Hi Mutt Users, I'm pleased to announce the release of version 1.14.7. Instructions for downloading are available at <http://www.mutt.org/download.html>, or the tarball can be directly downloaded from <http://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/>. Please take the time to verify the signature

Re: Mutt 25 years? 25 years!

2020-08-16 Thread Gerard ROBIN
I have been using Mutt for about 20 years with fetchmail, procmail, muttprint, notmuch-mutt ... That's what is best! Mutt deserves this beautiful image. A simple user. -- Gerard ___ *** Created with Mutt 1.10.1 under Debian Linux BUSTER ***

Re: Mutt 25 years? 25 years!

2020-08-16 Thread Naqiao
Thank you for the picture, I really liked it, the puppies are so cute! ^_^ It's incredible how time flies, I've been 22 years using mutt almost daily, very happy with it, the authors really made a good job that stands the test of time.

Re: Mutt 25 years? 25 years!

2020-08-15 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Sat, Aug 15, 2020 at 10:11:58PM +, Job Snijders wrote: I asked my partner to draw something for this special occasion. Please see the attached the mutt25years-s.png file (a small version). A virtual gift, easily shared through our favorite mail client! Thank you Job and Natasha! I've

Re: Mutt 25 years? 25 years!

2020-08-15 Thread Francesco Ariis
Il 15 agosto 2020 alle 22:11 Job Snijders ha scritto: > I asked my partner to draw something for this special occasion. Please > see the attached the mutt25years-s.png file (a small version). > A virtual gift, easily shared through our favorite mail client! Lovely picture, talented artist,

Re: mutt + msmtp with Oauth2 Was [Re: IMAP authentication in one domain (my institution) and redirect to Gmail]

2020-08-13 Thread Hokan
My mistake: bang-path is a term for old-style mail routing. The term I should have used is "shebang". It refers to the "#!" characters at the beginning of a script and that tells the script what program to use to interpret the script. In your case that's /bin/bash. On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at

mutt + msmtp with Oauth2 Was [Re: IMAP authentication in one domain (my institution) and redirect to Gmail]

2020-08-13 Thread Marcelo Laia
Hi Hokan, On 13/08/20 at 03:01, Hokan wrote: > Does /home/myuser/.oauth2token have a bang-path in it? I looked inside the oauth2token and there isn't any mention to python3.7. > What does that > path point to? Maybe something like : In the beginner of file there is: #!/bin/bash This is the

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
nt by your reply. > > Hi Trey, > > I think he meant that in your .muttrc, you might want to add an entry like: > > color normal white default (or whatever color combination) > > similar to how you have it for header, body, index, and the other color > entries. >

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Remco Rijnders
o how you have it for header, body, index, and the other color entries. Please also note the following in the Mutt manual, it probably does not apply for you, but be aware of it: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#color : If your terminal supports it, the special keyword default can be used as a

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 10:21 AM, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote: > > Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 09:58:48 -0400): > > > > [...] I'd suggest to start with the object called "normal". > > > > It looks like default is used in the majority of cases in my .muttrc: > > [This space intentionally

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Marcus C. Gottwald
Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 09:58:48 -0400): > > [...] I'd suggest to start with the object called "normal". > > It looks like default is used in the majority of cases in my .muttrc: [This space intentionally left blank.] -- Marcus C. Gottwald ·· @mcg:cheers.de

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, at 9:02 AM, Marcus C. Gottwald wrote: > > Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 07:53:17 -0400): > > > If I set xfce4-terminal to transparent, it works as expected. > > > > If I then start mutt from from xfce4-terminal, the only transparency ar

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Marcus C. Gottwald
Trey Sizemore wrote (Mon 2020-Aug-10 07:53:17 -0400): > If I set xfce4-terminal to transparent, it works as expected. > > If I then start mutt from from xfce4-terminal, the only transparency are > messages highlighted in some way (new, from me, flagged) All other mails are &

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
ttrc, and screenshots of mutt and just xfce4-terminal. > > > >Looks like these images can't be seen without logging in with or > >creating a DropBox / Google / Apple account. > > You might be able to include the screenshots with your mail to this > list, and include the ref

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 07:53:17AM -0400, Trey wrote in : I've attached my .muttrc, and screenshots of mutt and just xfce4-terminal. Looks like these images can't be seen without logging in with or creating a DropBox / Google / Apple account. You might be able to include the screenshots

Re: mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Remco Rijnders
On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 07:53:17AM -0400, Trey wrote in : I've attached my .muttrc, and screenshots of mutt and just xfce4-terminal. 1) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/mutt_transparency.png?role=personal 2) https://www.dropbox.com/preview/Public/xfce4-terminal.png?role=personal Looks

mutt not showing transparency in xfce4-terminal

2020-08-10 Thread Trey Sizemore
I'm using xfce4-terminal and Cinnamon desktop environment. If I set xfce4-terminal to transparent, it works as expected. If I then start mutt from from xfce4-terminal, the only transparency are messages highlighted in some way (new, from me, flagged) All other mails are set against a black

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-23 Thread Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 00:01:18 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > Oops, if I'd seen this message before I sent my last post, I probably > wouldn't have bothered to post it. > > That said, I will take issue with the notion that mbox is a terrible > format: It isn't. It does, however, have usage

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-23 Thread Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 23:25:18 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 08:37:50AM +0200, Sebastian Stein wrote: ... > > When I open a folder, I can mark a mail as new. How does mutt keep track of > > this flag? Is this stored inside mbox file? > > Yes. It'

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-22 Thread Derek Martin
t into the POSIX file store, making it pretty efficient (basically one stat() call). Pretty much anything else you can imagine will be significantly more expensive, and quite possibly monumentally more expensive. > When I open a folder, I can mark a mail as new. How does mutt keep track of >

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-22 Thread Derek Martin
. If you've read the famous comparison of the two on the Courier website, you should note that while many of its claims are true, it nevertheless is in no small part bunk. And if you feel the need to argue the point, I would urge you to read this thread before you do so: https://mutt

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-17 Thread Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
format for any sort of mailbox that sees modifications other than just appending) > When I open a folder, I can mark a mail as new. How does mutt keep track of > this flag? Is this stored inside mbox file? Yes, a header with this information is stuffed into the corresponding mail in the mbox.

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-17 Thread Sebastian Stein
vanced is needed?! When I open a folder, I can mark a mail as new. How does mutt keep track of this flag? Is this stored inside mbox file? Why not have a sidecar like .L-file1.mutt, where some essential stuff like last access time, checksum, etc. are stored? Regards, Sebastian signature.asc Descriptio

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-16 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 09:03:59AM +0200, Sebastian Stein wrote: Kevin J. McCarthy [200715 08:28]: Have you checked the access time vs modification time of those mailboxes? Capture them before and after procmail, and then launching Mutt. See if this gives any clues. Can you describe

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-16 Thread Sebastian Stein
Kevin J. McCarthy [200715 08:28]: > Have you checked the access time vs modification time of those mailboxes? > Capture them before and after procmail, and then launching Mutt. See if > this gives any clues. Can you describe the algorithm how to determine if a mbox file has

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-14 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
cludes the problem being related to the one fixed for 1.14.6. There are 283 mbox files counting about 4.000 characters. Is this too much? No, it shouldn't be. Is it expected that value of "mailboxes" variable isn't shown when running: mutt -D Mailboxes are not stored in

Information: Mutt/Gmail/Oauth2 Failure

2020-07-14 Thread Hokan
Hello Mutt/Gmail/Oauth2 Users, I had a problem reading my Google mail and wanted to let you know what happened in case any other oauth2.py users have a similar problem. I have a number of Gmail user accounts for which I use Mutt with oauth2 to read mail and, today, one stopped working. I

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-14 Thread Sebastian Stein
Kevin J. McCarthy [200714 21:46]: > Mike's reported bug was triggered by relative path mailboxes. Instead of: > set folder = "~/Mail" > mailboxes =a =b =c > he had: > set folder = "~/Mail" > mailboxes a b c > where a, b, and c were then resolved

Re: Mutt losing folders with new mails with additional session

2020-07-14 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
/folder-2-file), but only one of them showed up as being new. Your original mail (<20200106150335.ga10...@hpfsc.de>) reported you were seeing the problem with 1.10.1, but then it stopped with 1.13.2. Unfortunately, the problem Mike reported first showed up in Mutt 1.11.0. If you a

Re: Mutt and Mate

2020-07-14 Thread Francesco Ariis
Il 14 luglio 2020 alle 03:03 john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org ha scritto: > Does Mutt have a graphical interface that would work well with the Mate > desktop environment? I believe the point of mutt is running in a terminal — rather, some of its defining characteristics (lightweight, shortcut

Mutt and Mate

2020-07-14 Thread john . boyer
Hello, Does Mutt have a graphical interface that would work well with the Mate desktop environment? Thanks, John -- John J. Boyer Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison

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