ok, i have a mail server that also exports out /home. it has several
raid disks is connected to an ups and is generally noisy so it lives in
my utility room. my workstation lives in my office and it mounts /home
from the mail server.
sendmail invokes procmail to deliver my mail on the mail
On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 05:45:32PM +0100, kevin lyda wrote:
ok, i have a mail server that also exports out /home. it has several
raid disks is connected to an ups and is generally noisy so it lives in
my utility room. my workstation lives in my office and it mounts /home
from the mail
* kevin lyda [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-31 12:44]:
however, this is the dreaded mailbox on nfs issue. do procmail and
mutt play nice on nfs?
Mutt and procmail both support Maildir natively. See
http://cr.yp.to/proto/maildir.html.
(darren)
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On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 06:46:55PM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
however, this is the dreaded mailbox on nfs issue. do procmail and mutt
play nice on nfs?
If you use Maildir, yes.
Maildir has the problem of trading NFS locks for excess synchronous
meta-data operations, and
Ken, et al --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Sat, Feb 9, 2002, Paul Ackersviller wrote:
...
% saw once when I tried a performance tweak on one of my filesystems.
% Some filesystems have a mount option noatime to not update file access
...
% Is it possible the filesystem in question
On Sat, Feb 9, 2002, Paul Ackersviller wrote:
Sorry for chiming in late on this, but it sounds an lot like what I
saw once when I tried a performance tweak on one of my filesystems.
Some filesystems have a mount option noatime to not update file access
times -- needless to say this is not
On 2002-02-10 10:09 -0800, Ken Weingold wrote:
On Sat, Feb 9, 2002, Paul Ackersviller wrote:
Sorry for chiming in late on this, but it sounds an lot like what I
saw once when I tried a performance tweak on one of my filesystems.
Some filesystems have a mount option noatime to not update
Ken --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Sat, Feb 2, 2002, David T-G wrote:
% Speaking of landing in a new city, does anyone need a hot SysAdmin? I'm
% on the market again... Ken, perhaps you should forward my address to
% your IT department ;-)
%
% What the one of my former
Ken --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Sat, Feb 2, 2002, David T-G wrote:
% I'd check the times, then. Log in on the server and check the date and
% then, as simultaneously as possible, check the date on your workstation.
% If they're more than a second or so off, you can have
On Sun, Feb 3, 2002, David T-G wrote:
% that the servers run ntp and are synced to within a second. Any other
Good enough (though there have been times that I've had to really badger
my admin to fix ntp when it falls over).
% ideas? I haven't seen it last night, though. And btw,
On Sun, Feb 3, 2002, David T-G wrote:
When you do see it, try
ls -l --fulltime folderfile
ls -lu --fulltime folderfile
to see the differences. See if they make sense.
It's happening again. Weird that ls --help shows --fulltime, but on
the command line is says it's an invalid
ls -l --fulltime folderfile
ls -lu --fulltime folderfile
It's happening again. Weird that ls --help shows --fulltime, but on
the command line is says it's an invalid option. :-/ Anyway,
'ls -lu's output time is 2 minutes earlier than 'ls -l's.
On my Linux box (Debian sid) the
On Sun, Feb 3, 2002, Christopher S. Swingley wrote:
ls -l --fulltime folderfile
ls -lu --fulltime folderfile
It's happening again. Weird that ls --help shows --fulltime, but on
the command line is says it's an invalid option. :-/ Anyway,
'ls -lu's output time is 2 minutes
Ken --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, David T-G wrote:
% Can you clarify what sort of funkiness is going on? Is it just 'N'ew
% folder flagging? Does it resolve itself within a second or two? Are
% your client and server clocks in sync? Have you used ls to
Ken --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote:
%
% check your system time.
See? :-)
%
% Could it be that the box is in Portland, OR, and I am in NYC, so I set
% my TZ env variable to EST?
Nah; time zones won't matter, as long as they're correct. If your
Ken --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, Knute wrote:
% Don't know about that, but I do have an idea.
% Do you know if the box in Portland is using GMT or not?
%
% I don't. What will tell me that? 'date' says PST.
That's good enough. You could also check for TZ
On Sat, Feb 2, 2002, David T-G wrote:
I'd check the times, then. Log in on the server and check the date and
then, as simultaneously as possible, check the date on your workstation.
If they're more than a second or so off, you can have problems (and
everyone running make in your
On Sat, Feb 2, 2002, David T-G wrote:
Speaking of landing in a new city, does anyone need a hot SysAdmin? I'm
on the market again... Ken, perhaps you should forward my address to
your IT department ;-)
What the one of my former employer? I'll send your resume to the NYS
Dept. of
Is there some weirdness that may happen with mutt run from my home dir
which is NFS mounted? Not sure what the correlation would be, but I
find that after I have been in a mailbox, once in another, sometimes
mutt will tell me there is new mail in tha tmailbox, but going there,
there is no new
Ken Weingold muttered:
Is there some weirdness that may happen with mutt run from my home dir
which is NFS mounted?
Since NFS's locking mechanism is broken, I would recommend using Maildir.
HTH,
Michael
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Michael Tatge wrote:
Ken Weingold muttered:
Is there some weirdness that may happen with mutt run from my home
dir which is NFS mounted?
Since NFS's locking mechanism is broken, I would recommend using
Maildir.
i think he meant that mutt itself is mounted on the NFS share. i
wouldn't
On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, Will Yardley wrote:
Since NFS's locking mechanism is broken, I would recommend using
Maildir.
i think he meant that mutt itself is mounted on the NFS share. i
wouldn't do this unless i had to, and i can imagine it might cause some
problems, but shouldn't be a big
Will, et al --
...and then Will Yardley said...
%
% Michael Tatge wrote:
% Ken Weingold muttered:
%
% Is there some weirdness that may happen with mutt run from my home
% dir which is NFS mounted?
%
% Since NFS's locking mechanism is broken, I would recommend using
% Maildir.
%
% i
Ken --
...and then Ken Weingold said...
%
% On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, Will Yardley wrote:
% Since NFS's locking mechanism is broken, I would recommend using
% Maildir.
...
%
% Well here's the deal. /home is NFS-mounted. My spool folder is in
% /var/spool/mail. My other mail folders are in
On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, David T-G wrote:
Can you clarify what sort of funkiness is going on? Is it just 'N'ew
folder flagging? Does it resolve itself within a second or two? Are
your client and server clocks in sync? Have you used ls to check the
atime and mtime of a suspicious folder?
Really it's only sometimes, and seems to be the last folder I was in,
or at least the last one modified. After changing folders, it will
tell me a few times that there is new mail in that folder, but when I
change to it, there is no new mail. And nothing in my procmail log.
Seems to go
On 01/02/02 Ken Weingold did speaketh:
Is there some weirdness that may happen with mutt run from my home dir
which is NFS mounted? Not sure what the correlation would be, but I
find that after I have been in a mailbox, once in another, sometimes
mutt will tell me there is new mail in tha
This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two
mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail in a
folder. Change to it. No new mail. Status bar says there is new
mail in a folder. Change to that. No new mail. And again and again.
So mutt might not actually
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two
mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail in a
folder. Change to it. No new mail. Status bar says there is new
mail in a folder. Change to
On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two
mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail in a
folder. Change to it. No new mail. Status bar says there
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:39:06PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two
mailboxes. Change to one. Status bar says there is new mail
On Fri, 01 Feb 2002, MuttER wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:39:06PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, MuttER wrote:
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 09:26:22PM -0500, Ken Weingold wrote:
This is really irritating. I am currently in a loop between two
mailboxes. Change to
Knute wrote:
Don't know about that, but I do have an idea. Do you know if the box
in Portland is using GMT or not? If it is, then you can set yours to
GMT as well, then they should be in sync.
Either that or have mutt change the TZ variable to West Coast time
i think both computers think
On Fri, Feb 1, 2002, Knute wrote:
Don't know about that, but I do have an idea.
Do you know if the box in Portland is using GMT or not?
I don't. What will tell me that? 'date' says PST.
If it is, then you can set yours to GMT as well, then they should be in
sync.
Either that or have
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