urlview
I am probably missing something obvious here, but I can't find urlview anywhere. It didn't come with the mutt source, and I can't find any reference to it on ftp.mutt.org, or freshmeat. Where should I be looking? Thanks, - Paul -- Paul Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20683/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: urlview
* Paul Roberts Student lab engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [26-11-2001 11:04]: | I am probably missing something obvious here, but I can't find urlview | anywhere. It didn't come with the mutt source, and I can't find any | reference to it on ftp.mutt.org, or freshmeat. | | Where should I be looking? Look for download urlview on google. You will find packaged versions as well as links to source code. | Thanks, - Paul HTH, -- René Clerc - ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. -Michelangelo msg20684/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
concatenating mail and send-message in a macto
Sometimes I like to have the mail sent when I exit my editor - often in fact - meaning I skip the compose screen. So I used to fiddle a lit with the set editor command but that is not the answer, I just tried this: macro w index mailentersend-message and this works when you have a pending message as I did cause the enter answers the prompt to resume the postponed message, then you edit that message and voila it sends automatically on closing the editor. But when you have no pending message (as is normal for me) then the send-message ends up as a suggested subject. Am I being dense? What is the way to do this? -- Eric Smith
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index How did you move them? What's the other MUA's format? [What's the other MUA?] % Mutt shows the date I moved the messages, not the date each % message was sent. I looked more closely at the mbox file and saw % that the postmark lines for these messages read something like % % From nobody Sun Nov 25 23:28:45 2001 How does the From: header for this representative message look? % % It seems Mutt is using this date and not the date in the Date % header. I would like to see the true date of the message in the % index, however. Is there a way to do this? Are you sorting by date, threads, received, or none? % % Thanks, % Sam HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20686/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Which grepmail little mutt front-end ? (was: Re: [ Update ] List of 3rd party apps for Mutt)
Hi Cliff, hi mutt users, Cliff mentioned a frontend to grepmail: * Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Fre., 23. Nov. 2001; 17:36:09 +0100]: [...] But I see no mention of grepmail, and it's little mutt front-end friend. I'm interested in such thing. Where can i get this? Ciao, gregor
Re: Which grepmail little mutt front-end ? (was: Re: [ Update ] List of 3rd party apps for Mutt)
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:56:23PM +0100, Gregor Zattler wrote: I'm interested in such thing. Where can i get this? Try: http://grepmail.sourceforge.net/ There's a link on that page to the mutt front-end too. - Paul -- Paul Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailcap for Windows
Hi, does anyone have a mailcap file for windows programs, e.g. word, etc. ? -- Johannes
Locking...
Is there any way to have Mutt warn me if I am opening a second session? I find sometimes flags don't get updated because I've had two or three copies of the client running unintentionally... (I know--don't do it then, stupid!) -Mike msg20690/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bouncing a message with an attachment
Nope, this is just by me pressing b to bounce the message. The only thing I can think of is that it is being displayed inline via antiword. If that is the case, is it either one or the other then? i.e. Being able to bounce attachments properly and not have them displayed inline, or not being able to bounce messages correctly and have them displayed inline. Collin On Sat, Nov 24, 2001 at 08:57:08AM -0500, David T-G wrote: Collin -- ...and then Collin Peters said... % If I bounce a message that has (For example) a .doc attachment, the % receipient gets all the headers and .doc is inline with the message and ... Not to be too picky, but are you using 'f'orward instead of 'b'ounce to send along the message? Forwarding will rewrite the message and could, indeed, make some changes -- and so your settings are worth noticing. Bouncing, on the other hand, takes the message and feeds it directly back to the MTA to pass on, with no other changes -- and so if the .doc wasn't in-line for you, it shouldn't be in-line for your recipient. % I've read the list archives on forwarding a message with attachments but % these don't seem to apply to bouncing. HTH HAND % % Collin :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: Locking...
Mike A. Oligny [EMAIL PROTECTED] said something to this effect on 11/26/2001:
Is there any way to have Mutt warn me if I am opening a second
session? I find sometimes flags don't get updated because I've
had two or three copies of the client running unintentionally...
(I know--don't do it then, stupid!)
Write a shell function wrapper around mutt. In your (e.g.) .bashrc:
mutt() {
if test -e $HOME/.mutt-`hostname`; then
echo mutt already running!
else
touch $HOME/.mutt-`hostname`
mutt $*
rm $HOME/.mutt-`hostname`
fi
}
Invoke as normal:
bash$ mutt -f =listname
bash$ mutt -y
etc.
That will do it. You can add signal trapping in there to clean
up /tmp/mutt-$USER in the case of an abnormal end to the shell
script.
(darren)
--
He who has never configured `sendmail.cf' has no courage. He who has
configured it more than once has no brain.
Re: Locking...
Maybe this seems a little obvious, but you could invoke mutt via a wrapper shell script. It would be very, very simple. * if exists $lockfile echo warning; exit; * else: touch $lockfile; /usr/bin/real-mutt; rm $lockfile I dont think this functionality exists internally, maybe I'm wrong. /db On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 11:20:33AM -0700, Mike A. Oligny wrote: Is there any way to have Mutt warn me if I am opening a second session? I find sometimes flags don't get updated because I've had two or three copies of the client running unintentionally... (I know--don't do it then, stupid!) -Mike
mutt configure --with-sasl
I would like to configure mutt compile to include imap support w/ sasl authentication: configure --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl terminates w/ error message: snip checking for sasl_client_init in -lsasl... no configure: error: could not find libsasl pegasus# ./configure --help snap what are the correct options for configure to finish w/o errors? I also tried: configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so.8 configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.a System is FreeBSD 4.3. Yes, sasl is installed, cyrus imapd daemon runs on the system! Any help is much appreciated. -- Volker Jahns, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://thalreit.de
Re: mutt configure --with-sasl
Volker Jahns writes: I would like to configure mutt compile to include imap support w/ sasl authentication: configure --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl terminates w/ error message: snip checking for sasl_client_init in -lsasl... no configure: error: could not find libsasl What does config.log say?
Re: mutt configure --with-sasl
On Monday, 26 November 2001 at 20:20, Volker Jahns wrote: I would like to configure mutt compile to include imap support w/ sasl authentication: configure --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl terminates w/ error message: snip checking for sasl_client_init in -lsasl... no configure: error: could not find libsasl pegasus# ./configure --help snap what are the correct options for configure to finish w/o errors? I also tried: configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so.8 configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.a How about --with-sasl=/usr/local ? If that fails (assuming sasl is installed in /usr/local), you'll have to take a look at config.log and find the exact error. -b
Re: Bouncing a message with an attachment
On Mon 26-Nov-2001 at 10:59:21AM -0800, Collin Peters wrote: Nope, this is just by me pressing b to bounce the message. The only thing I can think of is that it is being displayed inline via antiword. No, (b)ouncing a message resends a message in its entirety with just the addition of a single 'Resent-From:' header (which irritatingly isn't affected by send-hooks) - I'm sure this isn't your problem. I suspect that some mail-server is screwing-up the message headers after you bounce it, it wouldn't be the first. Another possibility is the original email had messed-up headers in the first place, it wasn't sent from 'Entourage' was it? -- Bruno http://bruno.postle.net/
Re: mutt configure --with-sasl
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 20:20:01 +0100, Volker Jahns wrote: I would like to configure mutt compile to include imap support w/ sasl authentication: configure --enable-pop --enable-imap --with-sasl terminates w/ error message: snip checking for sasl_client_init in -lsasl... no configure: error: could not find libsasl pegasus# ./configure --help snap what are the correct options for configure to finish w/o errors? I also tried: configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.so.8 configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local/lib/libsasl.a This all is not sufficient, because the security/cyrus-sasl port installs the header files in /usr/local/include/sasl, so we need a little change to configure.in. I emailed Volker a patch, if it works it will get committed. (By the way: configure --enable-imap --with-sasl=/usr/local would have been the next best try ;-) Best regards -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 CT IC 3, Siemens CERT| Fax: +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt configure --with-sasl
I emailed Volker a patch, if it works it will get committed. To clarify that: I mean by this the FreeBSD port (no change in mutt's cvs tree is required, since this is a pure FreeBSD problem related to its ports tree) Best regards -- Udo Schweigert, Siemens AG | Voice : +49 89 636 42170 CT IC 3, Siemens CERT| Fax: +49 89 636 41166 D-81730 Muenchen / Germany | email : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: urlview
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:02:22AM +, Paul Roberts Student lab engineer wrote: I am probably missing something obvious here, but I can't find urlview anywhere. It didn't come with the mutt source, and I can't find any reference to it on ftp.mutt.org, or freshmeat. Where should I be looking? ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/contrib/ -- (T.) Michael Sanders internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics Department URL: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders University of Michigan phone: 734/936-0799 Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1120 FAX: 734/764-6843
Strange attachement
Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? Thanks. Patrik
Re: Strange attachement
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:21:18PM +0100, Patrik Modesto wrote: Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? pipe it into uudecode - '|uudecode' should do the trick. I wouldn't be able to tell you when OE decides to encode an attachment in MIME and when in UU, but either way is decodable. HTH :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com msg20702/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange attachement
On 11/26/01 10:21 PM, Patrik Modesto sat at the `puter and typed: Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? Looks like a M$ Word attachment. You have to edit the mailcap file and tell it how to handle these attachments. You might want to take a look at third party apps for Mutt (look in the archives, or maybe someone can repost the URI? I don't remember it offhand). At the mutt page, you can take a look at mutt pages by mutt users. There are lots of very cool things you can do to have almost any kind of attachment handled and viewable automatically - if you want. Mutt will do most anything you need or want it to do, but the front end work can be a long process. Get using it, and find out how to solve each problem when it gets to the point where it's worth the while to search mutt.org and the list, etc. I don't think I can ever use another MUA, but I still haven't gotten all the rough edges smoothed out completely. BTW, if you want to view Word Docs inline, there are useful links directly from Mutt regarding configuration. The 3rd party app you want is wv, I think. Used to be wordview, but it changed a while back. HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Steinbach's Guideline for Systems Programming: Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle. msg20703/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange attachement
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:27:45PM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:21:18PM +0100, Patrik Modesto wrote: Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? pipe it into uudecode - '|uudecode' should do the trick. I wouldn't be able to tell you when OE decides to encode an attachment in MIME and when in UU, but either way is decodable. It works. Thanks. But one question. Why mutt doesn't recognise it as a regular attachement? Patrik HTH :) -- Dan Boger Linux MVP brainbench.com
imap problem
Wunderful! I have mutt 1.3.23 running w/ Cyrus imapd. The only and most bitter problem is that mutt will only show my INBOX on the imap server. I cannot change to the other ?subfolders? So what would be the correct configuration options for mutt? here is what I use: snip set spoolfile=imap://pegasus.thalreit/INBOX set folder=imap://pegasus.thalreit/INBOX #set imap_authenticators=digest-md5 set imap_authenticators=login mailboxes imap:://pegasus.thalreit/INBOX.mfolder snap Thanks for all your help! -- Volker Jahns, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://thalreit.de
Re: Strange attachement
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:33:39PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 11/26/01 10:21 PM, Patrik Modesto sat at the `puter and typed: Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? Looks like a M$ Word attachment. You have to edit the mailcap file and tell it how to handle these attachments. You might want to take a look But this attachment doesn't have any application/... signature. It is completely inline. What line should I add in mailcap? at third party apps for Mutt (look in the archives, or maybe someone can repost the URI? I don't remember it offhand). At the mutt page, you can take a look at mutt pages by mutt users. There are lots of very cool things you can do to have almost any kind of attachment handled and viewable automatically - if you want. Mutt will do most anything you need or want it to do, but the front end work can be a long process. Get using it, and find out how to solve each problem when it gets to the point where it's worth the while to search mutt.org and the list, etc. I don't think I can ever use another MUA, but I still haven't gotten all the rough edges smoothed out completely. BTW, if you want to view Word Docs inline, there are useful links directly from Mutt regarding configuration. The 3rd party app you want is wv, I think. Used to be wordview, but it changed a while back. No. I don't want to view MS word document inline. It could by nice to show this file in attachments submenu, for easy saving. Patrik HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org Steinbach's Guideline for Systems Programming: Never test for an error condition you don't know how to handle.
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index How did you move them? What's the other MUA's format? [What's the other MUA?] I moved them using the C-o command in Gnus. The messages were previously stored in the nnml format. nnml is a Gnus-specific format that stores each message in its own file, a little like Maildir. % Mutt shows the date I moved the messages, not the date each % message was sent. I looked more closely at the mbox file and saw % that the postmark lines for these messages read something like % % From nobody Sun Nov 25 23:28:45 2001 How does the From: header for this representative message look? Um, let's see... From: Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Are you sorting by date, threads, received, or none? Threads. Sam
Re: Strange attachement
On 011126, at 23:02:16, Patrik Modesto wrote On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:33:39PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 11/26/01 10:21 PM, Patrik Modesto sat at the `puter and typed: I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! snip ` end It is sent from MSOE ... What can be wrong? Looks like a M$ Word attachment. You have to edit the mailcap file and tell it how to handle these attachments. You might want to take a look But this attachment doesn't have any application/... signature. It is completely inline. What line should I add in mailcap? Do the message headers indicate that it is a multi-part message? If so, there should be a Content-Type header for the attachment. You'll need a mailcap entry to tell it how you want that type decoded. If the headers don't indicate a multi-part message, the attachment hasn't been sent as an attachment and mutt won't recognize it as such. -- David Ellement
Re: Strange attachement
On 11/26/01 11:02 PM, Patrik Modesto sat at the `puter and typed: On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:33:39PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 11/26/01 10:21 PM, Patrik Modesto sat at the `puter and typed: Hi, I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! M/P``$ ``00$```#^`#X```#_ M snip ` end It is sent from MSOE and it looks like that, only when the user forwards interesting messages to someone else. When sending new composed mail, attachement looks right and is recogniced by mutt. I think, this is not a valid form of attachement. What can be wrong? Looks like a M$ Word attachment. You have to edit the mailcap file and tell it how to handle these attachments. You might want to take a look But this attachment doesn't have any application/... signature. It is completely inline. What line should I add in mailcap? My mistake. Dan was correct. I just saw the name and figured it was a word attachment. You can tie a macro to a keystroke and automatically pipe a message thru uudecode to automagically save those encoded messages. Here is mine: macro attach .d | uudecode -c enter From the index, '.d' causes the entire message to be piped thru uudecode which will try to decode all encoded attachments. HTH Lou -- Louis LeBlanc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Research is the best place to be: you work your buns off, and if it works you're a hero; if it doesn't, well -- nobody else has done it yet either, so you're still a valiant nerd. msg20709/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange attachement
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 02:43:41PM -0800, David Ellement wrote: On 011126, at 23:02:16, Patrik Modesto wrote On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:33:39PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote: On 11/26/01 10:21 PM, Patrik Modesto sat at the `puter and typed: I often get mail with attachement like this: begin 666 Studie.doc MT,\1X*QN$`/@`#`/[_0! snip ` end It is sent from MSOE ... What can be wrong? Looks like a M$ Word attachment. You have to edit the mailcap file and tell it how to handle these attachments. You might want to take a look But this attachment doesn't have any application/... signature. It is completely inline. What line should I add in mailcap? Do the message headers indicate that it is a multi-part message? If so, there should be a Content-Type header for the attachment. You'll need a mailcap entry to tell it how you want that type decoded. If the headers don't indicate a multi-part message, the attachment hasn't been sent as an attachment and mutt won't recognize it as such. There is no Content-Type header. There is: few times Received: from From, To, Subject, Date fields X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Return-Path: -removed/private- X-Orcpt: rfc822;[EMAIL PROTECTED] Status: RO Content-Length: 48003 Lines: 781 then few empty lines and then the encoded file above. I can get to the PC that sends this attachments so I will check it's MSOE setup. Thanks. Patrik
Re: Strange attachement
On 2001.11.26, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], Patrik Modesto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no Content-Type header. There is: ... then few empty lines and then the encoded file above. I can get to the PC that sends this attachments so I will check it's MSOE setup. It's not naturally MIME, but if you can always assume that uuencoded content from MSOE is supposed to be an attached document, you can probably fake something up with procmail. Something like this: :0 fBH * X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express * ^begin [0-7][0-7][0-7] [A-Za-z0-9] | formail -I Content-Type: application/octet-stream \ -I Content-Transfer-Encoding: x-uuencode That should make it a document containing one inline component that mutt can decode and view using whatever your application/octet-stream viewer is. (By default, mutt tries to treat it as text.) With a slightly fancier bit of scripting, you could extract the filename from the begin line, and add that to the MIME description, and you could ensure that ONLY uuencoded material was processed, and make it attached instead of inline... etc. But this should suit your most fundamental need. The MIME isn't exactly perfect, but it's sufficient for this sole purpose. -- -D.[EMAIL PROTECTED]NSITUniversity of Chicago
Re: mailcap for Windows
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:13:09PM +0100, Johannes Zellner wrote: Hi, does anyone have a mailcap file for windows programs, e.g. word, etc. ? -- Johannes This is what I have for word docs... application/msword; catdoc;copiousoutput -- Regards Cliff
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % % I recently moved some messages that I was reading with another MUA % % to an mbox file I read with Mutt. I noticed that in the index % % How did you move them? What's the other MUA's format? [What's the other % MUA?] % % I moved them using the C-o command in Gnus. The messages were % previously stored in the nnml format. nnml is a Gnus-specific % format that stores each message in its own file, a little like % Maildir. Hmmm... Hokay. That sounds sensible enough, and not like a Windows problem. One never knows :-) Since there was no From_ header before, Gnus had to make one up somehow. Can you export to Maildir instead? You could then read that in with mutt and save to mbox. % % % Mutt shows the date I moved the messages, not the date each % % message was sent. I looked more closely at the mbox file and saw % % that the postmark lines for these messages read something like % % % % From nobody Sun Nov 25 23:28:45 2001 % % How does the From: header for this representative message look? % % Um, let's see... % % From: Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, *duh* Sorry. How about the Date: header instead? :-) % % Are you sorting by date, threads, received, or none? % % Threads. What happens if you sort by date? Do they order themselves correctly? % % Sam :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20713/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since there was no From_ header before, Gnus had to make one up somehow. Makes sense. Can you export to Maildir instead? You could then read that in with mutt and save to mbox. Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. Even if I did this, wouldn't Mutt have the same problem Gnus had: no From_ header? % How does the From: header for this representative message look? % % Um, let's see... % % From: Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oh, *duh* Sorry. How about the Date: header instead? :-) Sure ;-) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:40:32 -0500 What happens if you sort by date? Do they order themselves correctly? They seem to. So Mutt groks the Date header, but isn't displaying that date in the index. Maybe Mutt uses the From_ header instead for efficiency? Sam
Re: Strange attachement
Patrik -- ...and then Patrik Modesto said... % On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 04:27:45PM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: % On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:21:18PM +0100, Patrik Modesto wrote: % % begin 666 Studie.doc ... % end % ... % What can be wrong? % % pipe it into uudecode - '|uudecode' should do the trick. I wouldn't be % able to tell you when OE decides to encode an attachment in MIME and % when in UU, but either way is decodable. % % It works. Thanks. But one question. Why mutt doesn't recognise it as a % regular attachement? Because it's not attached per se, with a MIME header structure and a proper Content-Type: and so on. uuencoding is how computers used to send binary data back and forth, particularly through email (though also commonly through news), and all of this automatic viewing and decoding stuff hadn't yet been invented :-) David Champion's suggestion about playing with the headers is probably the best way to go about making these attachments appear automatically, other than finding whoever uses LookOut! and LARTing him :-) % % Patrik HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20716/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
Sam -- ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: % % Since there was no From_ header before, Gnus had to make one up % somehow. % % Makes sense. % % Can you export to Maildir instead? You could then read that in % with mutt and save to mbox. % % Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think % they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. Can it write MMDF or save to an IMAP server, both of which mutt also speaks fluently? % % Even if I did this, wouldn't Mutt have the same problem Gnus had: % no From_ header? Well, I've never heard of that before, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say nope :-) % % % How does the From: header for this representative message look? % % % % Um, let's see... % % % % From: Samuel Padgett [EMAIL PROTECTED] % % Oh, *duh* Sorry. How about the Date: header instead? :-) % % Sure ;-) % % Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:40:32 -0500 Hokay. So the From: header doesn't say nobody (which was my original thought, but you've been talking about date), and the Date: is properly saved in the message. % % What happens if you sort by date? Do they order themselves % correctly? % % They seem to. So Mutt groks the Date header, but isn't displaying % that date in the index. Maybe Mutt uses the From_ header instead % for efficiency? I don't know about the latter hypothesis, but the former conclusion does seem to be correct. I wonder why that would be the case, though. It seems to me, though it's probably no help to you, that it's Gnus that's doing it wrong; I admit, though, that mutt probably oughta display the Date: info instead of the From_ info regardless of whether or not the latter is accurate. % % Sam Sorry I couldn't be of more help... :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg20717/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Strange attachement
On Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 10:45:02PM +0100, Patrik Modesto wrote: It works. Thanks. But one question. Why mutt doesn't recognise it as a regular attachement? Because it isn't an attachment. It's part of the message body. Just text. That's how you did it before MIME. ^_^ -- Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg20718/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mbox Postmark Line vs. Message Date Header?
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ...and then Samuel Padgett said... % Hm. Gnus reads Maildir, but doesn't write it (although I think % they're working on this). Maybe I can grab a development version. Can it write MMDF or save to an IMAP server, both of which mutt also speaks fluently? It seems Gnus reads MMDF, but doesn't write it. Gnus does IMAP, though. But then I'd have to set up an IMAP server :-| It seems to me, though it's probably no help to you, that it's Gnus that's doing it wrong; Possible, although Gnus tends to be a very well-behaved MUA. Maybe I should ask in a Gnus forum? By the way, I was curious about what slrn does when I use o to save an article: in the From_ line, it uses the address out of the From header, but does _not_ use the date out of the Date header. Instead, like Gnus, it uses the date the message is being saved. I admit, though, that mutt probably oughta display the Date: info instead of the From_ info regardless of whether or not the latter is accurate. Yes, I think so. FWIW, Gnus uses the Date header when it constructs its summary buffer. Sam
