Re: update encoding?
02-Apr-02 at 17:16, Adam Shostack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : The client's clock is running a few minutes behind the server. You write the file at local noon, which the server sets to be 12:03. Mutt checks the file, sees that its mtime is in the future (12:03 being later than 12:00), and warns you. NTP is your friend. I use NTP to synchronise all servers, and as many workstations as possible. Everybody's clock is within microseconds of each other, and this can reduce problems. Using a simple ntp client like k9, you can just listen for ntp broadcasts on the local subnet and update your clock accordingly. k9 works for Windows and Linux clients. You just need one master server on each subnet, which broadcasts the time every minute or so to all clients. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:61.19% see www.mersenne.org] If it dies, it's biology. If it blows up, it's chemistry, and if it doesn't work, it's physics. [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: Compiling problems with newer autoconf on vvv.nntp patch
* Volker Moell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 14. 2002 15:30]: Now using the latest autoconf-2.53 I get the error message: $ ./configure [...] $ make cd . autoconf configure.in:296: error: do not use LIBOBJS directly, use AC_LIBOBJ (see section `AC_LIBOBJ vs. LIBOBJS' make: *** [configure] Error 1 $ The output of ./configuire seems as normal. Any ideas? Is it a bug or did I something wrong? --- mutt-1.3.28/configure.in.old2002-03-13 13:49:46.0 +0100 +++ mutt-1.3.28/configure.in2002-04-03 13:09:53.0 +0200 @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ AC_CHECK_FUNCS(snprintf, , [mutt_cv_snprintf=yes]) AC_CHECK_FUNCS(vsnprintf, , [mutt_cv_snprintf=yes]) if test $mutt_cv_snprintf = yes; then -LIBOBJS=$LIBOBJS snprintf.o + AC_LIBOBJ([snprintf]) fi dnl SCO uses chsize() instead of ftruncate() @@ -325,7 +325,7 @@ if test $mutt_cv_regex = yes; then AC_DEFINE(USE_GNU_REGEX,1,[ Define if you want to use the included regex.c. ]) -LIBOBJS=$LIBOBJS regex.o + AC_LIBOBJ([regex]) fi This patch fixes it. -- Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort? -- A. P. J.
Re: Compiling problems with newer autoconf on vvv.nntp patch
AC_LIBOBJ doesn't exist with autoconf 2.13. On 2002-04-03 13:17:45 +0200, Mads Martin Jørgensen wrote: Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 13:17:45 +0200 From: Mads Martin Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ML mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Compiling problems with newer autoconf on vvv.nntp patch * Volker Moell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Mar 14. 2002 15:30]: Now using the latest autoconf-2.53 I get the error message: $ ./configure [...] $ make cd . autoconf configure.in:296: error: do not use LIBOBJS directly, use AC_LIBOBJ (see section `AC_LIBOBJ vs. LIBOBJS' make: *** [configure] Error 1 $ The output of ./configuire seems as normal. Any ideas? Is it a bug or did I something wrong? --- mutt-1.3.28/configure.in.old 2002-03-13 13:49:46.0 +0100 +++ mutt-1.3.28/configure.in 2002-04-03 13:09:53.0 +0200 @@ -293,7 +293,7 @@ AC_CHECK_FUNCS(snprintf, , [mutt_cv_snprintf=yes]) AC_CHECK_FUNCS(vsnprintf, , [mutt_cv_snprintf=yes]) if test $mutt_cv_snprintf = yes; then -LIBOBJS=$LIBOBJS snprintf.o + AC_LIBOBJ([snprintf]) fi dnl SCO uses chsize() instead of ftruncate() @@ -325,7 +325,7 @@ if test $mutt_cv_regex = yes; then AC_DEFINE(USE_GNU_REGEX,1,[ Define if you want to use the included regex.c. ]) -LIBOBJS=$LIBOBJS regex.o + AC_LIBOBJ([regex]) fi This patch fixes it. -- Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort? -- A. P. J. -- Thomas Roessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ICQ: 127158008)
Re: echo $EUID
begin quoting what Mark J. Reed said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:35:25PM -0500: In cases where there was an even wider divergence between the BSD and System V commands (the ps(1) command being the most infamous example), you may find the BSD version in /usr/ucb (this is analogous to but reversed from the old SunOS case, where the System V versions were in /usr/5bin). Don't assume, however, that BSD style necessarily is 100% the same as GNU style. ps being the example, yet again; the w option doesn't show as much stuff as you can get with two ws on GNU ps. msg26577/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: echo $EUID
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:12:00AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: Don't assume, however, that BSD style necessarily is 100% the same as GNU style. ps being the example, yet again; the w option doesn't show as much stuff as you can get with two ws on GNU ps. You can also put two 'w's on /usr/ucb/ps and get the full command line of every process, but the point is a good one. The GNU/Linux versions of commands are neither System V nor BSD, but a separate animal inspired to various degrees by each of the traditions. -- Mark REED| CNN Internet Technology 1 CNN Center Rm SW0831G | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Atlanta, GA 30348 USA | +1 404 827 4754 -- Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms. -- Groucho Marx
Grepmail alike for Maildirs
Hi there! Does anyone knows a grepmail alike tool that will work on Maildirs? Thanks! Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 07:07:35PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: when I don't access that one folder for a while, and I switch to it (with a macro), I get an error connection closed and an empty index. the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and start it again - a new connection will then be established. Try setting $imap_keepalive to a higher value. to a higher value? that's counter intuitive, isn't it? anyway, to report, setting it to a lower value did not help - accessing the mailbox before going to sleep last night, and again this morning, I get the same problem. Mutt says some sort of error (is there an easy way to review/catch these?), followed by a Close failed... then I have to quit and reenter mutt. it is not impossible that this problem is with my imap server, btw, but I'm trying to clear all my bases. on the other hand, setting mail_check higher did wonders to the performance of mutt with a lot of IMAP boxes :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26580/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grepmail alike for Maildirs
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:17:39AM -0500, David Collantes wrote: Hi there! Does anyone knows a grepmail alike tool that will work on Maildirs? Thanks! grep -r expression Maildir/* -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 Microsoft: A Proven Danger to National Security http://www.infowarrior.org/articles/msdanger.pdf
Re: echo $EUID
begin quoting what Mark J. Reed said on Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:18:57AM -0500: You can also put two 'w's on /usr/ucb/ps and get the full command line of every process, Nope; it has a cutoff after a certain number of characters, and there's nothing you can do about it. We ran into this problem when one of our developers wrote an application on Linux that did a ps and looked for a string, when the process in question was in an extremely long path and was run with the full path name. When he ported it to Solaris, it wouldn't work, even with /usr/ucb/ps, because of the cutoff. I suggested we install GNU ps, but nobody in management wanted to hear that. msg26582/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grepmail alike for Maildirs
David, et al -- ...and then Ralf Hildebrandt said... % % On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:17:39AM -0500, David Collantes wrote: % Hi there! % % Does anyone knows a grepmail alike tool that will work on Maildirs? Thanks! % % grep -r expression Maildir/* ... perhaps with a little shell script wrapping to take the grep output (having used -l to spit out just the filenames) and copy them into a temp Maildir and then fire up mutt just like grepm. % % -- % Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] % Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 % Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 % Microsoft: A Proven Danger to National Security % http://www.infowarrior.org/articles/msdanger.pdf :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26583/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
Dan -- ...and then Dan Boger said... % % On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 07:07:35PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: % Dan Boger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: ... % the only thing I could find that would fix this is to quit mutt and % start it again - a new connection will then be established. ... % get the same problem. Mutt says some sort of error (is there an easy % way to review/catch these?), followed by a Close failed... then I % have to quit and reenter mutt. I don't have the real answer, but what if you change to a local folder and then back to the imap folder? You might not have to quite mutt after all... % % it is not impossible that this problem is with my imap server, btw, but % I'm trying to clear all my bases. Good idea. % % on the other hand, setting mail_check higher did wonders to the % performance of mutt with a lot of IMAP boxes :) Hey, that's a bonus :-) % % -- % Dan Boger % [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26584/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grepmail alike for Maildirs
On 04-03-2002 at 08:27 EST, Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone knows a grepmail alike tool that will work on Maildirs? Thanks! grep -r expression Maildir/* Hmmm, that I knew. I was looking for a way to get a nicer printout. Grepmail will allow to print the results back into Mutt in a very organized way, with a list of the emails containing the expression. Cheers, -- David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida The only source of knowledge is experience. smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:03:34AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % get the same problem. Mutt says some sort of error (is there an easy % way to review/catch these?), followed by a Close failed... then I % have to quit and reenter mutt. I don't have the real answer, but what if you change to a local folder and then back to the imap folder? You might not have to quite mutt after all... nope, same thing. have to actually quit and restart mutt. :) -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg26586/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: close IMAP connections
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 09:07:41AM -0500, Dan Boger wrote: I don't have the real answer, but what if you change to a local folder and then back to the imap folder? You might not have to quite mutt after all... nope, same thing. have to actually quit and restart mutt. :) This sucks. -- Ralf Hildebrandt (Im Auftrag des Referat V A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Charite Campus Virchow-Klinikum Tel. +49 (0)30-450 570-155 Referat V A - Kommunikationsnetze - Fax. +49 (0)30-450 570-916 I realise computers suck. The only reason why they are a hobby of mine is because I enjoy pain!
French accentuated letters in 1.3.28i
Folks,
Pardon my imcompetence but for some reason, I cannot get mutt-1.3.x to process
and display french accentuated letters properly since the support for iconv
was introduced. First, when I compile 1.2.5.1 with
--with-charmaps={wherever-maps-are}, it works like a charm. All the
accentuated letters are displayed properly.
But I compiled libiconv-1.7 and then compiled mutt-1.3.28i and I can't get it
to display those accentuated properly. I always end-up with ?, spaces or \009
codes. I added:
source /usr/local/doc/mutt/samples/iconv/iconv.solaris-2.7.rc
I am running on a Solaris 2.8 system but I couldn't see the solaris-2.8 file
anywhere.
Any ideas?
--
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Re: echo $EUID
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002, Shawn McMahon wrote: I suggested we install GNU ps, but nobody in management wanted to hear that. I feel blessed. I have two species of management. The first kind wouldn't recognize a server if it reached out and smacked them. The second species wants to sound like they know what's going on, but really has no idea what's going on, so when I suggest something, they say Hrmm. Let me think about it. Then they come back a few hours later and say I think you're on to something. Go for it. we install GNU stuff in /usr/local since Solaris doesn't have anything in there by default. Then to each their own, as they set up their shell. You have /usr/xpg4/bin, /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin, as you prefer. Cheers, -Tim -- He's God. He's flighty. First it's a garden, then there's apples, but you can't EAT the apples, and there's a man and a women, but they can't bump uglies, and then, ah the hell with it, it's cities and smog and wars and shit and he's off resting on the seventh day anyway. --Jeff msg26589/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 13:56]: We ran into this problem when one of our developers wrote an application on Linux that did a ps and looked for a string, when the process in question was in an extremely long path and was run with the full path name. When he ported it to Solaris, it wouldn't work, even with /usr/ucb/ps, because of the cutoff. I suggested we install GNU ps, but nobody in management wanted to hear that. well, as soon as the installation of some little program makes the companie's own programs stop working then it is time to install something better, isn't it? time to exchange[tm] the management! ObMutt: can mutt display its own process id? the display of the porcess id would be helpful when there's a problem with mutt. the admin could add this number to the status_format in /etc/Muttrc so that users will see it and will catch it with a screen hardcopy. bug reports might then be handled much quicker.. Sven [should i have started a new thread?]
Re: French accentuated letters in 1.3.28i - stable snapshot
* Charles Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:30]: .. I cannot get mutt-1.3.x to process and display french accentuated letters properly since the support for iconv was introduced. [..] But I compiled libiconv-1.7 and then compiled mutt-1.3.28i and I can't get it to display those accentuated properly. I always end-up with ?, spaces or \009 codes. I added: source /usr/local/doc/mutt/samples/iconv/iconv.solaris-2.7.rc I am running on a Solaris 2.8 system but I couldn't see the solaris-2.8 file anywhere. Any ideas? welcome to the MOSU club (Mutt on Solaris Users). today the no-iconv patch has been added - and I'll try again tomorrow when Thomas Roessler will upload the current snapshots. maybe then it'll work? i hope so. as a matter of fact i dont' the value in this iconv thing. i just seems to get in the way.. does anyone use it successfully? but maybe it's just that our Solaris machines don't have proper locales installed. actually, the local installation drives me up the wall. this alone it's a good reason to switch to Linux. Sven [Been there, done that, got the tshirt.]
Can not input 8bit chars in command line
Hi, I can read and write mail of 8bit charset (Traditional Chinese) in mutt. But I can not input them in mutt's command line - such as To:, Subject:, Search, Alias (the characters from XIM are stripped of the 8th bit). Is there a setting to enable 8bit characters in command line at bottom? thanks, best regards, charlie
Re: French accentuated letters in 1.3.28i - stable snapshot
03-Apr-02 at 16:47, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : but maybe it's just that our Solaris machines don't have proper locales installed. actually, the local installation drives me up the wall. this alone it's a good reason to switch to Linux. We run Linux on Sparc boxes and are happier with them than when they ran SunOS5.8. Simon -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:61.24% see www.mersenne.org] Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest. -- Diderot [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:33:45 +0200]: can mutt display its own process id? set status_format=Hello, I am mutt and my PID is `echo $PPID` and variations on that theme? -- Dave Pearson: | mutt.octet.filter - autoview octet-streams http://www.davep.org/ | mutt.vcard.filter - autoview simple vcards Mutt: | muttrc2html - muttrc - HTML utility http://www.davep.org/mutt/ | muttrc.sl - Jed muttrc mode
Re: French accentuated letters in 1.3.28i - stable snapshot
On Apr 03, Sven Guckes [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: * Charles Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:30]: .. I cannot get mutt-1.3.x to process and display french accentuated letters properly since the support for iconv was introduced. [..] But I compiled libiconv-1.7 and then compiled mutt-1.3.28i and I can't get it to display those accentuated properly. I always end-up with ?, spaces or \009 codes. I added: source /usr/local/doc/mutt/samples/iconv/iconv.solaris-2.7.rc I am running on a Solaris 2.8 system but I couldn't see the solaris-2.8 file anywhere. Any ideas? today the no-iconv patch has been added - and I'll try again tomorrow when Thomas Roessler will upload the current snapshots. maybe then it'll work? i hope so. as a matter of fact i dont' the value in this iconv thing. i just seems to get in the way.. does anyone use it successfully? Er, my understanding* is that all the internal support for extended characters has been dropped in favor of letting libiconv handle it, so no, being able to build without libiconv isn't going to help him. The point of being able to build without it is for people on very old systems that don't (want|need|have) it. For anyone else it seems to have been working fine for some time now. *Very likely flawed or incomplete, since I don't need to deal with it and remain mostly blissfully ignorant on this issue. msg26595/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grepmail alike for Maildirs
David -- ...and then David Collantes said... % % On 04-03-2002 at 08:27 EST, Ralf Hildebrandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: % % Does anyone knows a grepmail alike tool that will work on Maildirs? Thanks! % % grep -r expression Maildir/* % % Hmmm, that I knew. I was looking for a way to get a nicer printout. Grepmail % will allow to print the results back into Mutt in a very organized way, with % a list of the emails containing the expression. The whole reason for grepmail is because it's challenging to pull a single message out of an entire mbox; that's a piece of cake in a Maildir, since every message is in its own file. A quickie script that you might call grepmaildir that looks about like #!/bin/sh FILES=`grep -lr $1 $*` if [ -n $FILES ] then mkdir -p /tmp/grepmaildir.temp.$$/cur cp -p $FILES /tmp/grepmaildir.temp.$$/cur mutt -R /tmp/grepmaildir.temp.$$ rm -r /tmp/grepmaildir.temp.$$ fi but which in reality should be much prettier (and, unlike this, would be even rudimentarily tested :-) would do the same thing as grepmail + grepm; alternatively, you could skip the whole temp Maildir bit and just pump the resultant files through formail to generate ^From_ headers and then have a drop-in replacement for grepmail (to then be called by grepm or such). % % Cheers, HTH HAND % % -- % David Collantes - http://www.bus.ucf.edu/david/ % College of Business Administration, University of Central Florida % The only source of knowledge is experience. :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26596/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 09:40]: ObMutt: can mutt display its own process id? the display of the porcess id would be helpful when there's a problem with mutt. the admin could add this number to the status_format in /etc/Muttrc so that users will see it and will catch it with a screen hardcopy. bug reports might then be handled much quicker.. This made me interested. This works for me, against mutt-1.3.27. Ite defines %$ as the status char for the pid. My rudimentary tests show that it Does The Right Thing. (I diff'ed with -caw; is there a preferred option set for mutt patches?) (darren) *** status.c.orig Wed Apr 3 11:11:19 2002 --- status.cWed Apr 3 11:17:51 2002 *** *** 52,58 * %S = current aux sorting method ($sort_aux) * %t = # of tagged messages [option] * %v = Mutt version ! * %V = currently active limit pattern [option] */ static const char * status_format_str (char *buf, size_t buflen, char op, const char *src, const char *prefix, const char *ifstring, --- 52,59 * %S = current aux sorting method ($sort_aux) * %t = # of tagged messages [option] * %v = Mutt version ! * %V = currently active limit pattern [option] ! * %$ = current pid */ static const char * status_format_str (char *buf, size_t buflen, char op, const char *src, const char *prefix, const char *ifstring, *** *** 272,277 --- 273,283 optional = 0; break; + case '$': + snprintf (fmt, sizeof(fmt), %%%sd, prefix); + snprintf (buf, buflen, fmt, getpid()); + break; + case 0: *buf = 0; return (src); -- Responsible behavior is the result of a socialization process.
Re: How do you search to: header?
Thanks to everyone for the help! Is there a place where the default key bindings are listed? For example, l being the key for limit isn't in help. Thanks! Jen On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:54:48AM +0200, Nicolas Rachinsky wrote: * jennyw [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-02 11:53:11 -0800]: I was just wondering how I would search for someone I sent a message to. Using / doesn't help -- that only seems to search subject and from:. Look for Pattern in the manual. Nicolas
Re: How do you search to: header?
03-Apr-02 at 08:26, jennyw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Thanks to everyone for the help! Is there a place where the default key bindings are listed? For example, l being the key for limit isn't in help. Thanks! It is. Right after k (previous message). Simon. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:61.25% see www.mersenne.org] Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction. -- Blaise Pascal [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: How do you search to: header?
Jenny -- ...and then jennyw said... % % Thanks to everyone for the help! That's why we're here :-) % % Is there a place where the default key bindings are listed? For example, % l being the key for limit isn't in help. Thanks! I don't know which help you're using, but pressing the '?' brings up a help screen listing every function and its binding. Be sure that you're in the right context, though; when reading a message you're in the pager and you will get pager help -- where limit is not available and thus where l is not shown. % % Jen HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26600/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How do you search to: header?
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:47:26AM -0500, David T-G wrote: ...and then jennyw said... % % Thanks to everyone for the help! That's why we're here :-) That's good to know! I don't know which help you're using, but pressing the '?' brings up a help screen listing every function and its binding. Be sure that you're in the right context, though; when reading a message you're in the pager and you will get pager help -- where limit is not available and thus where l is not shown. When I hit ? when it's listing all the messages, it doesn't show l for limit. It does show the key binding for showing the active limit, though. Do I just have a weird version? I'm using the one that's packaged for Debian. Thanks! Jen
Re: How do you search to: header?
03-Apr-02 at 09:08, jennyw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : When I hit ? when it's listing all the messages, it doesn't show l for limit. It does show the key binding for showing the active limit, though. Do I just have a weird version? I'm using the one that's packaged for Debian. Are you looking at the lower case and upper case values? They are different, l and L have different functions. -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:61.26% see www.mersenne.org] Sometimes we sit and read other people's interpretations of our lyrics and think, 'Hey, that's pretty good.' If we liked it, we would keep our mouths shut and just accept the credit as if it was what we meant all along. -- John Lennon.
Re: How do you search to: header?
* Simon White [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 12:20]: 03-Apr-02 at 09:08, jennyw ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : When I hit ? when it's listing all the messages, it doesn't show l for limit. It does show the key binding for showing the active limit, though. Do I just have a weird version? I'm using the one that's packaged for Debian. Are you looking at the lower case and upper case values? They are different, l and L have different functions. I believe that she is looking at pagerhelp and needs to look at indexhelp. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: How do you search to: header?
Jen --
...and then jennyw said...
%
% On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 11:47:26AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
% ...and then jennyw said...
% %
% % Thanks to everyone for the help!
%
% That's why we're here :-)
%
% That's good to know!
*grin*
%
% in the right context, though; when reading a message you're in the pager
% and you will get pager help -- where limit is not available and thus
% where l is not shown.
%
% When I hit ? when it's listing all the messages, it doesn't show l for
Hmmm... That certainly sounds like the index. Does your help screen
look like
Help for index -- (32%)
^B macro |urlview\n
^D delete-thread delete all messages in thread
^E edit-type edit attachment content type
^F forget-passphrase wipe PGP passphrase from memory
Tab next-new jump to the next new message
.
.
.
or perhaps instead like
Help for pager -- (42%)
^B macro |urlview\n
^D half-down scroll down 1/2 page
^E edit-type edit attachment content type
^F forget-passphrase wipe PGP passphrase from memory
Tab next-new jump to the next new message
or such?
Assuming you really do have help for index shown, you should see
something like
Help for index -- (32%)
^B macro |urlview\n
^D delete-thread delete all messages in thread
...
Esck mail-key mail a PGP public key
Escl show-limit show currently active limit pattern
Escn next-subthread jump to the next subthread
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K previous-entry move to the previous entry
L bottom-pagemove to the bottom of the page
N toggle-new toggle a message's 'new' flag
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k previous-undeleted move to the previous undeleted message
l limit show only messages matching a pattern
m mail compose a new mail message
and be able to type
/limit
within the help screen and see any occurrences of limit highlighted.
% limit. It does show the key binding for showing the active limit, though.
% Do I just have a weird version? I'm using the one that's packaged for
% Debian.
Well, although I don't particularly trust packaged versions, I doubt that
that's the issue.
If you really go through all of the steps above and you really are in the
index help and it really isn't there, then show us the results of running
mutt -v
and
grep limit .mutt{,/mutt}rc
grep limit /dev/null `mutt -v | grep SYSCONF | awk -F\ '{print $2}'`/Muttrc
from your shell prompt so that we can dig into this a bit (I wondered
if I was going to be able to get that last one on a single line! :-)
%
% Thanks!
HTH HAND
%
% Jen
:-D
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outgoingmail
I can get mails from my POP-server using mutt but I am not able to send mails. I think is due to unsuccessfull configuration of sendmail. So this is my question: How do I configure sendmail? I just want sendmail to know my SMTP-server. Nothing more. If it is important: my computer is stably integrated in an network. If you can help me please say I exactly wih which commands I need to configure sendmail. I really got angry with that. Furhter information: I am using Debian 2.2. In some way sendmail seems to be connected with zmailer. I am not familiar with this either. All I want to know is what do I have to do that my outgoing mail goes to the SMTP-server. Thank you Johannes Breu
Re: outgoingmail
Johannes -- ...and then Johannes Breu said... % % I can get mails from my POP-server using mutt but I am not able to send Good start. % mails. I think is due to unsuccessfull configuration of sendmail. So A common problem. This isn't a sendmail (or qmail or exim or postfix or ...) list, so you may or may not find any help here. What most people in your situation do is to download a very simple MTA such as ssmtp and install it; there is very little configuration to do and everything works nicely. For more information, check the archives; a good start would be searching for ssmtp. You can find the archives via the mutt.org home page; a few different ones are listed near the bottom. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26606/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: outgoingmail
Johannes Breu wrote: Furhter information: I am using Debian 2.2. In some way sendmail seems to be connected with zmailer. I am not familiar with this either. All I want to know is what do I have to do that my outgoing mail goes to the SMTP-server. Since you are running Debian, I would suggest that you instead use exim. The Debian package has a really nice configuration script (eximconfig) that asks you a few basic questions, one of which is whether or not to relay mail to a smarthost. You don't need to configure anything else.
Re: outgoingmail
* Johannes Breu [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 13:16]: I can get mails from my POP-server using mutt but I am not able to send mails. I think is due to unsuccessfull configuration of sendmail. So this is my question: How do I configure sendmail? I just want sendmail to know my SMTP-server. Nothing more. If it is important: my computer is stably integrated in an network. If you have a mailhost (I'll assume by stably integrated that you do), you can build your sendmail.cf with define(`SMART_HOST', `esmtp:mailhost') in the m4 config; the resulting line in the sendmail.cf looks like: DSesmtp:mailhost (I think that's all you need.) However, I recommend ssmtp. Keep reading if you care. If you can help me please say I exactly wih which commands I need to configure sendmail. I really got angry with that. We've all been there. I just installed ssmtp the other day, and it was trivial. The entirety of my config looks like: # # /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf -- a config file for sSMTP sendmail. # # The person who gets all mail for userids 1000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] # The place where the mail goes. The actual machine name is required # no MX records are consulted. Commonly mailhosts are named mail.domain.com # The example will fit if you are in domain.com and your mailhub is so named. mailhub=mailhost # Where will the mail seem to come from? rewriteDomain=real.domain # The full hostname hostname=me.real.domain Furhter information: I am using Debian 2.2. In some way sendmail seems to be connected with zmailer. I am not familiar with this either. All I want to know is what do I have to do that my outgoing mail goes to the SMTP-server. You should be able to apt-get install ssmtp: $ apt-cache search ssmtp ssmtp - Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a mail hub (darren) -- There is not enough love in the world to squander it on anything by human beings.
Re: outgoingmail
you can probably just get by with setting a smart relay in sendmail...DSsomesmtp.yourisp.com dan * Johannes Breu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I can get mails from my POP-server using mutt but I am not able to send mails. I think is due to unsuccessfull configuration of sendmail. So this is my question: How do I configure sendmail? I just want sendmail to know my SMTP-server. Nothing more. If it is important: my computer is stably integrated in an network. If you can help me please say I exactly wih which commands I need to configure sendmail. I really got angry with that.
Re: outgoingmail
03-Apr-02 at 13:22, David T-G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : For more information, check the archives; a good start would be searching for ssmtp. You can find the archives via the mutt.org home page; a few different ones are listed near the bottom. You can try nullmailer as well, this is supposedly simpler than ssmtp and more recently developed IIRC. Sendmail can be a smart relay: http://www.sendmail.org/m4/masquerading.html If you want all outgoing mail to go to a central relay site, define SMART_HOST as well. Briefly: SMART_HOST applies to names qualified with other hosts. However, beware that other relays (e.g., UUCP_RELAY, BITNET_RELAY, DECNET_RELAY, and FAX_RELAY) take precedence over SMART_HOST, so if you really want absolutely everything to go to a single central site you will need to unset all the other relays -- or better yet, find or build a minimal config file that does this. This also looks reasonably useful: http://users.binary.net/dturley/linux/sendmail.html -- [Simon White. vim/mutt. [EMAIL PROTECTED] GIMPS:61.27% see www.mersenne.org] IDIOT, n - A member of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs has always been dominant and controlling. -- Ambrose Bierce [Linux user #170823 http://counter.li.org. Home cooked signature rotator.]
Re: outgoingmail
Michael Elkins wrote: Johannes Breu wrote: Furhter information: I am using Debian 2.2. In some way sendmail seems to be connected with zmailer. I am not familiar with this either. All I want to know is what do I have to do that my outgoing mail goes to the SMTP-server. Since you are running Debian, I would suggest that you instead use exim. The Debian package has a really nice configuration script (eximconfig) that asks you a few basic questions, one of which is whether or not to relay mail to a smarthost. You don't need to configure anything else. or apt-get install postfix! -- Will Yardley input: william hq . newdream . net .
Re: language-problem
[03.04.02 09:54 +0200] Heiko Heil -- : I have compiled mutt v1.3.28i both on my Server (based on SuSE7.1) and on my Laptop (based on SuSE7.3). Now I have noticed that the mutt-version on the server runs in English language and the mutt-version on my laptop in German language. The language-settings (according to locale) only differ from the @euro-suffix. But I want both versions in German language. No network here, no Suse here, so just a guess, unverified hh@server:~ locale LANG=de_DE [snipped] I read this to be the locale of your server. I guess the locale of your laptop looks like LANG=de_DE@euro. 2 reasons I can think of: 1. check /usr/lib/locale directories having both de_DE and de_DE@euro 2. check both LANGUAGE variables -- Erika Pacholleck [EMAIL PROTECTED] mutters: insert vowels of last name
Re: display proces id - format string %$
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:33:45 +0200]: can mutt display its own process id? * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 15:43]: set status_format=Hello, I am mutt and my PID is `echo $PPID` and variations on that theme? have you tried that? i dont think so. ;-) however, darren chamberlain's patch should work. I'd then be using the format string %$ in my status_format right after the version number (%v): set status_format=%v [%$]: %f (%s) [%M/%m] [NEW=%n] %?V?[%V]? any chances to get this in to mutt-1.4? it's just a small change - and nice! (like I said - especially for admins :-) Sven
Re: X-Uptime: DSWs
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-01 21:27]: begin quoting what Rocco Rutte said on Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 11:20:32PM +0200: It may sound funny, but I really saw some Linux guys talking about what would be necessary to replace a kernel 'on the fly'. Not that it does make lots of sence or is extraordinary usefull, but to some of them uptime is all that matters... It'd be easier to just make /proc/uptime writable... hold it right there! let's not overdo it. such a command this definitely suffices: my_hdr X-Uptime: since 1970 ok, maybe make it not *that* obvious... ;-) anyway, an uptime of two weeks will make almost any Windows luser weep.. hehe Sven
Sending Mail
I apologize for asking a question that I know I've seen before, but I just can't seem to find it in the archives. When sending a message, after editing the text and exiting out of vim, I'm taken to a screen and required to press Y to send. How can I make Y the default so I can press ENTER? I believe ENTER is bound to edit, and I don't want to lose that ability either. -- Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.boora.com
Re: Sending Mail
* Michael Montagne [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:41]: I apologize for asking a question that I know I've seen before, but I just can't seem to find it in the archives. When sending a message, after editing the text and exiting out of vim, I'm taken to a screen and required to press Y to send. How can I make Y the default so I can press ENTER? I believe ENTER is bound to edit, and I don't want to lose that ability either. bind compose Return send-message bind compose v view-attach (darren) -- There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered. -- Nelson Mandela
Feature Request
Feature request. It would be nice and timesaving (for me, at least) if change-folder would default to ! when where was not a folder containing New Mail. Perhaps a set feature in muttrc ?? set change-folder some-default-location Just a thought. -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: How do you search to: header?
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:53:29PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Hmmm... That certainly sounds like the index. Does your help screen look like Yes, I found it. I was just confused about the search function ... I expected it to work like less where it'd take you to the next occurrence if you searched again. I now realize it just highlights stuff and you still need to page through the list. Doh! Thanks! Jen
change $record based on mailboxes
I have multiple mailbox folders. I want to save a copy of outgoing message in the current mbox folder. Pretty reasonable enough. The following solution seems to work: folder-hook . set record= folder-hook =local set record==local folder-hook =haviworks set record==haviworks folder-hook =ebase set record==ebase However, I have more than a dozen mailboxes and I sometimes add new ones. Is there a quick and easy way to say I always want to set $record to the current mailbox? I tried folder-hook . set record== and that simply creates '' file under my mail directory. I don't think I am the mailing list any more. Would appreciate if you cc your reply directly to my email address. TIA. Jun
Re: change $record based on mailboxes
* Jun Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:55]: I have multiple mailbox folders. I want to save a copy of outgoing message in the current mbox folder. Pretty reasonable enough. The following solution seems to work: [-- snip --] 6.3.51. force_name Type: boolean Default: no This variable is similar to $save_name, except that Mutt will store a copy of your outgoing message by the username of the address you are sending to even if that mailbox does not exist. Also see the $record variable. ... 6.3.189. save_name Type: boolean Default: no This variable controls how copies of outgoing messages are saved. When set, a check is made to see if a mailbox specified by the recipient address exists (this is done by searching for a mailbox in the $folder directory with the username part of the recipient address). If the mailbox exists, the outgoing message will be saved to that mailbox, otherwise the message is saved to the $record mailbox. Also see the $force_name variable. (darren) -- Those who learn from history are doomed to have it repeated to them anyway. -- Larry Wall
Re: Outhouse on Mutt-Users? Was: Re: close IMAP connections
Hi, On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:59:26PM +, Simon White wrote: 02-Apr-02 at 19:48, Luke Ross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : I use mutt patched with vvv-nntp (I know not now - I'm on holiday on a strange computer), and if the NNTP connection gets closed it asks if you want to reconnect, and then continues where it left off - perhaps IMAP can be patched to do the same. Good job you said you were on holiday, with headers like X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 that is a travesty :) I knew someone here would snoop my headers! I'm back now, so ner! Luke
Re: basic help on help
* jennyw [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:25]: Is there a place where the default key bindings are listed? For example, l being the key for limit isn't in help. it isn't? check again! type '?' for help and then '/' to search for limit (hit return). does it show up now? Sven
Re: change $record based on mailboxes
Thanks, but I don't see how those two variables help. My goal is to save a outgoing message to the same folder that I am currently reading from (i.e., one of those =local, =ebase, etc) *Not* based on the address I am sending to. Jun On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:57:44PM -0500, darren chamberlain wrote: * Jun Sun [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:55]: I have multiple mailbox folders. I want to save a copy of outgoing message in the current mbox folder. Pretty reasonable enough. The following solution seems to work: [-- snip --] 6.3.51. force_name Type: boolean Default: no This variable is similar to $save_name, except that Mutt will store a copy of your outgoing message by the username of the address you are sending to even if that mailbox does not exist. Also see the $record variable. ... 6.3.189. save_name Type: boolean Default: no This variable controls how copies of outgoing messages are saved. When set, a check is made to see if a mailbox specified by the recipient address exists (this is done by searching for a mailbox in the $folder directory with the username part of the recipient address). If the mailbox exists, the outgoing message will be saved to that mailbox, otherwise the message is saved to the $record mailbox. Also see the $force_name variable. (darren) -- Those who learn from history are doomed to have it repeated to them anyway. -- Larry Wall
Re: change $record based on mailboxes
Jun -- ...and then Jun Sun said... % % I have multiple mailbox folders. I want to save a copy of outgoing % message in the current mbox folder. Pretty reasonable enough. Interesting. % % The following solution seems to work: % % folder-hook . set record= % folder-hook =local set record==local % folder-hook =haviworks set record==haviworks % folder-hook =ebase set record==ebase Sure, but that seems a pain. % % % However, I have more than a dozen mailboxes and I sometimes add new ones. % Is there a quick and easy way to say I always want to set $record to the % current mailbox? Yes and no. I'd say that you shouldn't bother with $record. % % I tried % % folder-hook . set record== % % and that simply creates '' file under my mail directory. Yep. But something like folder-hook . my_hdr fcc: ^ might work well if you go ahead and include patch-1.3.23.bj.current_shortcut.1 in your mutt build (or perhaps wait until 1.4 comes out if they decide to integrate that into the stock distro). See the cocktail directory under http://mutt.justpickone.org/ for at least one place to get the patch. Hmmm... I have Byrial's patch page at http://www.image.dk/~byrial/mutt/patches/ so you might try there as well (or even first). % % I don't think I am the mailing list any more. Would appreciate if you % cc your reply directly to my email address. % % TIA. HTH HAND % % Jun :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26624/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
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Re: How do you search to: header?
On Apr 03, jennyw [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 12:53:29PM -0500, David T-G wrote: Hmmm... That certainly sounds like the index. Does your help screen look like Yes, I found it. I was just confused about the search function ... I expected it to work like less where it'd take you to the next occurrence if you searched again. I now realize it just highlights stuff and you still need to page through the list. Doh! Weird, I never noticed before that it doesn't work that way. If you hit 'n' for next it will go to the next match (also found in less). msg26626/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: display proces id (Re: to GNU ps or not to GNU ps)
* Jeremy Blosser [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:19]: On Apr 03, darren chamberlain [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: (I diff'ed with -caw; is there a preferred option set for mutt patches?) -dup Noted. (darren) -- The moment one gives close attention to anything, even a blade of grass, it becomes a mysterious, awesome, indescribably magnificent world in itself. -- Henry Miller
Re: display proces id - format string %$
--1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 16:33:45 +0200]: can mutt display its own process id? =20 * Dave Pearson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 15:43]: set status_format=3DHello, I am mutt and my PID is `echo $PPID` and variations on that theme? =20 have you tried that? i dont think so. ;-) It works. I've tried it. --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Nothing is so firmly believed as that which we least know. -- Michel de Montaigne --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8q4f2PTh2iSBKeccRAmCfAJ40khR4/rcrsC7wawhrFLgJsyoW2QCcDjaB /24mdcNp16xMOhkLuzIuWY4= =TAIN -END PGP SIGNATURE- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7--
Re: X-Uptime: DSWs
Alas! Sven Guckes spake thus: my_hdr X-Uptime: since 1970 ok, maybe make it not *that* obvious... ;-) I think I need to go back to the old script I was using that would generate nice, random uptime headers for me ;) -- Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Is there life before breakfast? msg26629/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Can not input 8bit chars in command line
* Charles Jie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 14:50]: I can read and write mail of 8bit charset (Traditional Chinese) in mutt. But I can not input them in mutt's command line - such as To:, Subject:, Search, Alias (the characters from XIM are stripped of the 8th bit). Is there a setting to enable 8bit characters in command line at bottom? Unicode support is scheduled for mutt-2.0. (that *always* works - hehe.) okok - could it be that your shell is not configured for 7bit characters? check the /etc/inputrc! set input-meta on set output-meta on Sven
Re: Feature Request
* pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 19:48]: Feature request. It would be nice and timesaving (for me, at least) if change-folder would default to ! when where was not a folder containing New Mail. Perhaps a set feature in muttrc ?? set change-folder some-default-location feature request denied. macro index c change-folder! we won't waste extra code for this. ;-) Sven
Re: Feature Request
Sven Guckes wrote: * pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 19:48]: Feature request. It would be nice and timesaving (for me, at least) if change-folder would default to ! when where was not a folder containing New Mail. Perhaps a set feature in muttrc ?? set change-folder some-default-location feature request denied. macro index c change-folder! we won't waste extra code for this. ;-) well (s)he requested that it would default to ! when there wasn't already a folder containing new mail. so i don't think this would do quite the same thing... -- Will Yardley input: william @ hq . newdream . net .
Re: Feature Request - change the change-folder default folder
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [04-03-02 19:50]: * pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-03 19:48]: Feature request. It would be nice and timesaving (for me, at PS: But, dammit, Pat, put your name into the From: line so an attribution makes sense! Sven Just for you, Sven. aka patrick -- Pat Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 Registered at: http://counter.li.org
Re: change $record based on mailboxes - copy+save_name
* Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-04 00:26]: % folder-hook . set record= % folder-hook =local set record==local % folder-hook =haviworks set record==haviworks % folder-hook =ebase set record==ebase .. I want fcc set to the mbox folder where the list email is in to which I am replying. It's a big PITA for dozens of folders, created by procmail. I would have thought for procmail to be in very common use with people who use mutt. It requires a folder-hook for each list - blerrg. mutt is no replacement for procmail. if your problem is with procmail then you should be posting elsewhere. there's fcc-hook and fcc-save-hook and with header editing you can also use your editor's feature to adjust the Fcc. have you tried these? besides, when you have set save_name then mails sent to listname@domain get saved in +listname. and if you need a different name for +listname, well, there's ln -s to create symlinks! I take it that the outgoing email doesn't actually get a fcc: header, set copy and bingo - Fcc gets set! Sven === # mkdir ~/Mail $ cd~/Mail $ ln -s foo-l fools $ cat test alias foo FOO List foo-l@domain set copy set save_name set folder=~/Mail $ echo blah | mutt -F test foo $ ls -l fools $ mutt -f fools
IMAP Subscription and Mailboxes
Hello! Is there a way to tell mutt to either: a) use my IMAP subscriptions as my 'mailboxes' (to check for new mail) b) tell mutt to consider all mailboxes as 'mailboxes' I don't like having to list all of my 50+ folders, to which procmail writes, just to have it tell me if there's new mail in them. -- rjbs msg26641/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: change $record based on mailboxes - copy+save_name
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 03:25:05AM +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: * Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-04 00:26]: % folder-hook . set record= % folder-hook =local set record==local % folder-hook =haviworks set record==haviworks % folder-hook =ebase set record==ebase .. I want fcc set to the mbox folder where the list email is in to which I am replying. It's a big PITA for dozens of folders, created by procmail. I would have thought for procmail to be in very common use with people who use mutt. It requires a folder-hook for each list - blerrg. mutt is no replacement for procmail. if your problem is with procmail then you should be posting elsewhere. there's fcc-hook and fcc-save-hook and with header editing you can also use your editor's feature to adjust the Fcc. have you tried these? besides, when you have set save_name then mails sent to listname@domain get saved in +listname. and if you need a different name for +listname, well, there's ln -s to create symlinks! Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message to the *same* folder as you are reading from? If that is so, I think we should make it easier to do this. Another common need of saving a copy is to save all of them in a single Outbox folder, which mutt is already capable of doing. Cheers. Jun
Re: change $record based on mailboxes - copy+save_name
--ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alas! Jun Sun spake thus: Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message to the *same* folder as you are reading from? Not really, too much clutter. I prefer to have a special sent messages folder. If that is so, I think we should make it easier to do this. It's already pretty easy. Make a script something like this: #!/bin/bash for i in ~/mail/* do=20 i=3D$(basename $i) echo folder-hook =3D$i \set record=3D\'=3D$i\'\ done then simply source the output of this script. It might even be simpler than that, though ;) --=20 Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know. -- Lao Tsu --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8q81wPTh2iSBKeccRAi2zAJ0Qfj3JaChfiJcvl8Xok+UYVD0k+ACfY48K q88SOosOTImXirJFaDqFtTM= =jFLG -END PGP SIGNATURE- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH--
Re: change $record based on mailboxes - copy+save_name
Hi, * Jun Sun [04/04/02 04:57:13] wrote: Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message to the *same* folder as you are reading from? No, not really. Why should I do this? Unless there's something important in a folder I delete everything if I leave it. Otherwise I would get eye cancer with my color settings. ;-) If I - at any later point - need a thread for reference, I have backup files named by date. 'cat'ing together, if necessary. Cheers, Rocco. msg26645/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: change $record based on mailboxes - copy+save_name
Jun -- ...and then Jun Sun said... % % Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message % to the *same* folder as you are reading from? Not really, actually; perhaps for personal communication but definitely not for lists, where I get a copy of my own message back (because I want to get it like and when everyone else does even when I have the option of turning off metoo). But you asked how to do it and so I told you :-) % % If that is so, I think we should make it easier to do this. Even if it isn't so, I don't mind making it easier; I've been a fan of the current_shortcut patch since its initial release. % % Another common need of saving a copy is to save all of them in a % single Outbox folder, which mutt is already capable of doing. Another thing I don't do, but which I recognize others might :-) % % Cheers. HTH HAND % % Jun :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg!
Re: change $record based on mailboxes
Volker -- ...and then Volker Kuhlmann said... % % On Thu 04 Apr 2002 09:10:35 NZST +1200, David T-G wrote: % % % I have multiple mailbox folders. I want to save a copy of outgoing % % message in the current mbox folder. Pretty reasonable enough. % % Interesting. % % I have the same problem. I want fcc set to the mbox folder where the % list email is in to which I am replying. Well, now you know one way to do it :-) % % % folder-hook . set record= % % folder-hook =local set record==local % % folder-hook =haviworks set record==haviworks % % folder-hook =ebase set record==ebase % % Sure, but that seems a pain. % % It's a big PITA for dozens of folders, created by procmail. I would have No, I was being sympathetic. I wouldn't do it that way. % thought for procmail tobe in very common use with people who use mutt. % It requires a folder-hook for each list - blerrg. Well, that's not so bad; after all, mutt can parse them for you and you never have to know. I'd just source a script that scans all of my incoming folders (especially since they're named to be easy to recognize) and let it do the work. % % One could use an fcc-save-hook for each list, which is a pain, and % the patterns become humangous fast. Not a problem. % % This doesn't work: % % folder-hook . set record=~/Mail/logfile % folder-hook .*-List set record=!! Right. % % Yep. But something like % %folder-hook . my_hdr fcc: ^ % % might work well if you go ahead and include % %patch-1.3.23.bj.current_shortcut.1 % % I take it that the outgoing email doesn't actually get a fcc: header, Right; mutt interprets that itself. % but that this sets $record instead. I also take it that this can be Well, I don't know if it sets $record or not; I haven't looked in the code. One way to check would be to do that and then, from the compose menu, check the value of $record; I expect it would still be whatever it usually is. That's not an entirely incorrect way to look at it, though; I think you get the point. % reversed by a following fcc-save-hook (for non-mailing-list emails). Hmmm... Haven't tried that one; you'd have to give it a shot. You would probably have to unmy_hdr the fcc: instead. % % This patch is essential to mutt, please include it in the next version! Don't ask me; but the folks on mutt-dev or file an RFE with flea :-) % % Volker HTH HAND % % -- % Volker Kuhlmann, list0570 at paradise dot net dot nz % http://volker.orcon.net.nz/ :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26647/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP Subscription and Mailboxes
Ricardo -- ...and then Ricardo SIGNES said... % % Hello! Hi! % % Is there a way to tell mutt to either: % a) use my IMAP subscriptions as my 'mailboxes' (to check for new mail) % b) tell mutt to consider all mailboxes as 'mailboxes' No, not really. % % I don't like having to list all of my 50+ folders, to which procmail writes, % just to have it tell me if there's new mail in them. So whip up a little script that goes through your procmail rules and grabs where you write and source that in your mailboxes line. % % -- % rjbs HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg26648/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: automating move of folders, imap to imap
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:59:13PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote: begin quoting what David Champion said on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 11:47:51AM -0600: For doing this between two servers *neither* of which you have access to, I don't see a way to automate it, since there's no direct means of getting the folder tree structure in mutt and passing it to a script. But if you can use another IMAP tool (or cobble your own) to get that list, you can use a similar approach. http://search.cpan.org/doc/DJKERNEN/Mail-IMAPClient-2.1.3/IMAPClient.pm I've tried IMAPClient-2.1.4, too. But I don't see a straightforward way of piping an IMAP folder from one server to the other, short of reading every message to a file then appending that file to the destination server, while modifying the headers necessary to complete the operation. I've also e-mailed the author of the module about clarification of the doc, but haven't heard back from him. Robert
Re: language-problem
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 02:16:40PM +0200, Erika Pacholleck wrote: hh@server:~ locale LANG=de_DE [snipped] I read this to be the locale of your server. I guess the locale of your laptop looks like LANG=de_DE@euro. Right. 2 reasons I can think of: 1. check /usr/lib/locale directories having both de_DE and de_DE@euro hh@server:~ ls -d /usr/lib/locale/de_DE* /usr/lib/locale/de_DE /usr/lib/locale/de_DE.utf8 /usr/lib/locale/de_DE@euro hh@laptop:~ ls -d /usr/lib/locale/de_DE* /usr/lib/locale/de_DE /usr/lib/locale/de_DE.utf8 /usr/lib/locale/de_DE@euro 2. check both LANGUAGE variables Mutt is still running in English language... -- Cheers, Heiko Heil
Re: change $record based on mailboxes
fcc-save-hook (.*adsl.*@(lists.|)unixathome.org) =adsl-List fcc-save-hook '~f [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~s adsl' =adsl-List fcc-save-hook '~t [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~s adsl' =adsl-List hmm... - does this list rewrite the sender thus sending all mails as From: majordomo? in that case replace the maillist software! There's nothing wrong with the maillist software (majordomo). Line 1 catches list emails and my postings to the list, lines 2 and 3 administrative emails from+to the list server software. however, if there is a special address for the distribution (like usual) then it should be as simple as this: fcc-save-hook '~C [EMAIL PROTECTED]' =ADSL As to my experience (with procmail filtering), it is unreliable to expect that the send-msg-to-list address appears in To: or Cc:. But if you just want so save *some* mails from the list which happen to have adsl in the Subject line No, just keeping each list in its own file. mutt is no replacement for procmail. if your problem is with procmail then you should be posting elsewhere. I never have problems with procmail, just with dumb MUAs... :) I do however require any MUA to function flawlessly in combination with procmail. The MUA doesn't get it until procmail is finished. With me anyway. there's fcc-hook and fcc-save-hook and with header editing you can also use your editor's feature to adjust the Fcc. have you tried these? Yes, hence my question. Editing the headers with the msg each time isn't so great (dumb repetive things are best left to a silicon box). besides, when you have set save_name then mails sent to listname@domain get saved in +listname. and if you need a different name for +listname, well, there's ln -s to create symlinks! Hell no, what a pollution in my mail directory tree! Remember: some dozen lists. Don't you think it is a common sense to save a copy of outgoing message to the *same* folder as you are reading from? Not really, too much clutter. I prefer to have a special sent messages folder. I find it easier to remove the sent msg from the list file once my copy arrives then to remove it from a common outbox file. It's useful to keep a copy for the time being because some mail servers can be dodgy at times. And, as David T-G says, for personal communication an fcc to the currently read mail file is preferable. Everybody works differently, perhaps another config option? It's already pretty easy. Make a script something like this: [...] May work, but isn't that rather a cludge? It's surely not so user-friendly. % It requires a folder-hook for each list - blerrg. Well, that's not so bad; after all, mutt can parse them for you and you never have to know. I'd just source a script that scans all of my incoming folders (especially since they're named to be easy to recognize) and let it do the work. Not too bad an idea, though I'm not sure whether I really want to name my list folders with the list-post-address. Not really actually. Me thinks it's easier to use a line like the first of those 3 I gave, for each list. Extra work is required for list administrative emails, fortunately that doesn't happen too often. I much prefer listname-request@domain addresses over majordomo@domain for this reason (covered by the first pattern already), but somehow I don't think people will ditch theit 'domos for this reason... % One could use an fcc-save-hook for each list, which is a pain, and % the patterns become humangous fast. Not a problem. No, not for mutt, but for me, as I have to maintain them, which costs time. On the other hand, perhaps it would be better to shift the problem towards procmail, for which I maintain patterns anyway. Thanks all for the suggestions! Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann, list0570 at paradise dot net dot nz http://volker.orcon.net.nz/
