Re: search new mails in the opposite order

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, September 25 at 01:29 PM, quoth bill lam:
 when I read mails inside a thread, pressing tab search next new 
 mail, but that will be the previous mail in chronological order. Try 
 pressing shift-tab does not help. Is there any way to search new 
 mail in the opposite order and bind it to shift-tab?

Assuming that your tab is bound to the next-new-then-unread 
function, all you'd need to do is add this to your muttrc:

 bind pager,index \STab previous-new-then-unread

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Re: search new mails in the opposite order

2008-09-25 Thread bill lam
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
  bind pager,index \STab previous-new-then-unread

Thank you Kyle!

btw, I discovered that I had made a very bad choice for choosing
shift-tab as it is not supported on xterm without further hacking.

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send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Marco Giusti
ciao!
i'm using mutt with two different email accounts. generally i use the
first one but i need to use the second to send email to the university
so i set the following send-hook:

unhook send-hook
unhook send2-hook

send-hook . unmy_hdr From Reply-To


send-hook . 'set sendmail=~/bin/msmtpQ -a gmail; \
 set from = Marco Giusti [EMAIL PROTECTED]; \
 my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

send-hook .*unibo\.it 'set sendmail=~/bin/msmtpQ -a hermes; \
   set from = Marco Giusti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'


with this configuration i got a strange behavior i follow these steps:

1. send emails to a generic addresses. no problem at all
2. send an email to .unibo.it. no problem, all the headers are set
correclty
3. send an email to a generic address. now the headers and the variables
are set to the previous values ie. unibo.it account

why i got this? it's my fault or a mutt's bug? how can i achieve the
behaviour needed?

thanks for your help
marco

ps. follow some mutt infos if you need it, anyway is a debian/lenny package

Mutt 1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
Copyright (C) 1996-2008 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.

System: Linux 2.6.25.11 (x86_64)
ncurses: ncurses 5.6.20080830 (compiled with 5.6)
libidn: 1.8 (compiled with 1.9)
hcache backend: GDBM version 1.8.3. 10/15/2002 (built Apr 24 2006 03:50:27)
Opzioni di compilazione:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL  +USE_SETGID  +USE_DOTLOCK  +DL_STANDALONE  
+USE_FCNTL  -USE_FLOCK   
+USE_POP  +USE_IMAP  +USE_SMTP  +USE_GSS  -USE_SSL_OPENSSL  +USE_SSL_GNUTLS  
+USE_SASL  +HAVE_GETADDRINFO  
+HAVE_REGCOMP  -USE_GNU_REGEX  
+HAVE_COLOR  +HAVE_START_COLOR  +HAVE_TYPEAHEAD  +HAVE_BKGDSET  
+HAVE_CURS_SET  +HAVE_META  +HAVE_RESIZETERM  
+CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_PGP  +CRYPT_BACKEND_CLASSIC_SMIME  -CRYPT_BACKEND_GPGME  
-EXACT_ADDRESS  -SUN_ATTACHMENT  
+ENABLE_NLS  -LOCALES_HACK  +COMPRESSED  +HAVE_WC_FUNCS  +HAVE_LANGINFO_CODESET 
 +HAVE_LANGINFO_YESEXPR  
+HAVE_ICONV  -ICONV_NONTRANS  +HAVE_LIBIDN  +HAVE_GETSID  +USE_HCACHE  
-ISPELL
SENDMAIL=/usr/sbin/sendmail
MAILPATH=/var/mail
PKGDATADIR=/usr/share/mutt
SYSCONFDIR=/etc
EXECSHELL=/bin/sh
MIXMASTER=mixmaster
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please visit http://bugs.mutt.org/.

patch-1.5.13.cd.ifdef.2
patch-1.5.13.cd.purge_message.3.4
patch-1.5.13.nt+ab.xtitles.4
patch-1.5.4.vk.pgp_verbose_mime
patch-1.5.6.dw.maildir-mtime.1
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Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Marianne Promberger

Hi,

On Thursday, 25 September 2008, 12:52 (UTC+0200), Marco Giusti wrote:
 ciao!
 i'm using mutt with two different email accounts. generally i use the
 first one but i need to use the second to send email to the university
 so i set the following send-hook:
 
 unhook send-hook
 unhook send2-hook
 
 send-hook . unmy_hdr From Reply-To
 
 
 send-hook . 'set sendmail=~/bin/msmtpQ -a gmail; \
  set from = Marco Giusti [EMAIL PROTECTED]; \
  my_hdr Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]'


I had problems trying to achieve the same thing with set from and
I'm now using 

send-hook . 'my_hdr From: My Name  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

But I didn't know about unmy_hdr, so my_hdr may not be necessary, and
there may be a better way to do it with set from (better because
for all I remember with my_hdr From, set reverse_name doesn't work).

m.



Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Aron Griffis
Marco Giusti wrote:  [Thu Sep 25 2008, 06:52:45AM EDT]
 why i got this? it's my fault or a mutt's bug? how can
 i achieve the behaviour needed?

I have a configuration that's similar and it works properly for
me.  Is that your entire config?

Aron


Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Aron Griffis
Marianne Promberger wrote:  [Thu Sep 25 2008, 07:21:29AM EDT]
 I had problems trying to achieve the same thing with set from and
 I'm now using 
 
 send-hook . 'my_hdr From: My Name  [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

Setting $from should work as of 1.5.18

http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt/rev/4e8e3db418ea

 But I didn't know about unmy_hdr, so my_hdr may not be
 necessary, and there may be a better way to do it with set
 from (better because for all I remember with my_hdr From,
 set reverse_name doesn't work).

Right, my_hdr From overrides $reverse_name, which usually isn't
desired.  That's why it's nice to set $from instead.

IMHO there is still a tiny problem because it's impossible to
determine in a hook (send-hook or send2-hook) what the final From
value is, based on the combination of $reverse_name and $from.
That's a bit frustrating to me because I'd like to make some
other settings based on that value.

Aron


Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Marianne Promberger
On Thursday, 25 September 2008, 15:31 (UTC+0200), Marco Giusti wrote:

  anyway i cannot understand reverse_name and i don't use it

With reverse_name, when you reply to an e-mail, mutt automatically
sets your From: address to whatever e-mail the original sender used
to get the mail to you. If someone e-mails to your private account,
your reply will have set From to your private account. If someone
e-mails to your university account, your reply will have set From to
the uni account. 

send-hooks and folder-hooks can catch a lot, but sometimes they don't.

For example, I have my university address as the default from:
address. But I'm also active in a cycling organisation, and if someone
with whom I've never exchanged email before sends a message to me at
that address, no hook will match, but I'd still like the reply to
originate from the cycling address, not the uni address. Currently, I
have to set this manually (using a macro).

m.





Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Alexander Dahl
Hi, 

 For example, I have my university address as the default from:
 address. But I'm also active in a cycling organisation, and if someone
 with whom I've never exchanged email before sends a message to me at
 that address, no hook will match, but I'd still like the reply to
 originate from the cycling address, not the uni address. Currently, I
 have to set this manually (using a macro).

I want the same thing and have configured it as follows (@ and .
replaced ;))

set reverse_name
set realname= 'Alexander Dahl'
set from= post(at)lespocky(dot)de
set use_from= yes
alternates post(at)lespocky(dot)de|lespocky(at)web(de)

This does exactly what you describe, you simply have to set the
mail-adresses you use as alternates, no hooks or macros or my_hdr
modifications necessary.

Greets
Alex

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Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Marianne Promberger
On Thursday, 25 September 2008, 17:10 (UTC+0200), Alexander Dahl wrote:
 Hi, 
 
  For example, I have my university address as the default from:
  address. But I'm also active in a cycling organisation, and if someone
  with whom I've never exchanged email before sends a message to me at
  that address, no hook will match, but I'd still like the reply to
  originate from the cycling address, not the uni address. Currently, I
  have to set this manually (using a macro).
 
 I want the same thing and have configured it as follows (@ and .
 replaced ;))
 
 set reverse_name
 set realname= 'Alexander Dahl'
 set from= post(at)lespocky(dot)de
 set use_from= yes
 alternates post(at)lespocky(dot)de|lespocky(at)web(de)
 
 This does exactly what you describe, you simply have to set the
 mail-adresses you use as alternates, no hooks or macros or my_hdr
 modifications necessary.

Well, yes, but I am running mutt 1.5.15, and there I need my_hdr
From for send-hooks, and that then messes up reverse_name. 

m.


Re: Save to a file problem (wrapped with =)

2008-09-25 Thread Lin Tan
  I have a very basic imap mutt setup to receive emails. 
 However, when I
  try to save an email to a file, lines longer than 72 characters are 
  wrapped with a = added at the end. I can view the long lines just 
  fine, but the saved file is wrapped.
 
 When messages are saved to a file (using the save-message 
 command), they're saved in mbox format, which is pretty close to the 
 raw message---and the RFCs strongly encourage that messages be wrapped 
 to 72 characters.
 
 I guess my point is: it's doing that on purpose... what exactly is it 
 that you're trying to achieve? There's probably a better way to 
 achieve it

Thank you so much for the explanation, Kyle.

I want to save the message as it is, being not wrapped. Is there a way to do 
that?

The reason is that I was trying to save a patch for the Linux kernel. If the 
patch if wrapped, then it can't be applied anymore.  BTW, is there a way to 
save just the message (excluding the from addr, subject, etc.)?

Thanks a lot.

Lin


Re: Save to a file problem (wrapped with =

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, September 25 at 10:39 AM, quoth Tan, Lin:
 I want to save the message as it is, being not wrapped. Is there a 
 way to do that?

Sure, several!

 The reason is that I was trying to save a patch for the Linux 
 kernel. If the patch if wrapped, then it can't be applied anymore.  
 BTW, is there a way to save just the message (excluding the from 
 addr, subject, etc.)?

Ahh, then the way you will want is to do it via the attachment menu 
(by default, press the 'v' key while a message is selected in the 
index or being viewed in the pager... think v is for View). From 
there, you can use the save-entry command (bound to 's' by default). 
That should allow you to save the text of a message (or, if the sender 
has been nice, the patch attachment) to a file in decoded (i.e. 
un-wrapped, non-raw) form.

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Re: Save to a file problem (wrapped with =)

2008-09-25 Thread Mark Harrison
 I want to save the message as it is, being not wrapped. Is there a way to do 
 that?
You can use v to view the parts of a message and any attachments, then s to
save individual attachments (or the message) to a file. This also excludes the
message headers. These are using the default keybindings, so if you have
changed them, these instructions will be different for you.

HTH,

Mark

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Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Marianne Promberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-25-08 11:21]:
 
 Well, yes, but I am running mutt 1.5.15, and there I need my_hdr
 From for send-hooks, and that then messes up reverse_name. 
 

iianm, the idea is to use reverse_name generally and send-hooks for
specific situations.

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where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread bill lam
In index page, / or T can search a pattern or regex, and there are
modifiers like ~h ~b to force searching inside header or body etc.
But what is the context for searching without any such modifiers, does
it search the header or body or just what is visible of the index
screen?

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Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Marianne Promberger
On Thursday, 25 September 2008, 11:27 (UTC-0400), Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 * Marianne Promberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-25-08 11:21]:
  
  Well, yes, but I am running mutt 1.5.15, and there I need my_hdr
  From for send-hooks, and that then messes up reverse_name. 
  
 
 iianm, the idea is to use reverse_name generally and send-hooks for
 specific situations.
 

Yes.


Re: where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread Rocco Rutte

Hi,

* bill lam wrote:


In index page, / or T can search a pattern or regex, and there are
modifiers like ~h ~b to force searching inside header or body etc.
But what is the context for searching without any such modifiers, does
it search the header or body or just what is visible of the index
screen?


This feature is called simple search, see $simple_search and its
documentation: mutt generates a pattern with modifiers for you.

Regards, Rocco


Re: where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread Vance Shipley
Bill,

Something which is undocumented, as far as I can see, is that when
working with an IMAP mail store you can search conduct the search
on the server.  If you do a /~b it will have to download all the
messages to do the search.  If you replace '~' with '=' in your
search pattern (e.g. /=b foo) it will compile a search function
and send it to the server.  This should really make it into the
manual as it's very important for IMAP users.

-Vance

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:03:12AM +0800, bill lam wrote:
}  In index page, / or T can search a pattern or regex, and there are
}  modifiers like ~h ~b to force searching inside header or body etc.
}  But what is the context for searching without any such modifiers, does
}  it search the header or body or just what is visible of the index
}  screen?


Re: where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread bill lam
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Rocco Rutte wrote:
 This feature is called simple search, see $simple_search and its
 documentation: mutt generates a pattern with modifiers for you.

Thank you Rocco! The friendly way to rtfm. ;-)

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Re: where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:38 PM, quoth Vance Shipley:
 Something which is undocumented, as far as I can see, is that when 
 working with an IMAP mail store you can search conduct the search on 
 the server.  If you do a /~b it will have to download all the 
 messages to do the search.  If you replace '~' with '=' in your 
 search pattern (e.g. /=b foo) it will compile a search function and 
 send it to the server.  This should really make it into the manual 
 as it's very important for IMAP users.

 From the muttrc man page:

=b STRING   messages which contain STRING in the message body. If 
IMAP is enabled, searches for STRING on the server,
rather than downloading each message and searching it
locally.

(I wrote that part of the documentation.) 

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Re: Save to a file problem (wrapped with =

2008-09-25 Thread Lin Tan




  I want to save the message as it is, being not wrapped. Is
 there a way
  to do that?
 
 Sure, several!
 
  The reason is that I was trying to save a patch for the
 Linux kernel. 
  If the patch if wrapped, then it can't be applied anymore.
  BTW, is there a way to save just the message (excluding the
 from addr,
  subject, etc.)?
 
 Ahh, then the way you will want is to do it via the attachment menu 
 (by default, press the 'v' key while a message is selected in the 
 index or being viewed in the pager... think v is for View). From 
 there, you can use the save-entry command (bound to 's' by default).
 That should allow you to save the text of a message (or, if the sender 
 has been nice, the patch attachment) to a file in decoded (i.e.
 un-wrapped, non-raw) form.
 

It works! Thanks a bunch, Kyle and Mark.
Haha, the kernel developers do NOT want patches to be sent as attachment. 


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Re: where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread Vance Shipley
Kyle,

I have been using a bookmark for http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual.
I now see that a more up to date manual is here
http://dev.mutt.org/doc/manual.html where this is documented.

-Vance

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:48:17AM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote:
}   From the muttrc man page:
}  
}  =b STRING   messages which contain STRING in the message body. If 
}  IMAP is enabled, searches for STRING on the server,
}  rather than downloading each message and searching it
}  locally.


Re: where does it search

2008-09-25 Thread bill lam
Thanks Vance and Kyle. I once had to kill mutt when searching gmail
imap with ~b.

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Help Reqd in mutt

2008-09-25 Thread Maruvada, Suryakiran
Hi,

I have the clarification following problems while using the mutt.

1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the
error. How to de-bug such things. 

eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id 
  
2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ?
Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ? 

3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.? 


4. What does mutt command returns.? 
 
5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In the
above command
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail
Id
 Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a
different folder.

I am a new member to mutt - community..
Thanks in Advance...  to  All   !!!


Thanks and Regards,
Surya Kiran



Re: send-hook and different email accounts

2008-09-25 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Marianne Promberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-25-08 12:07]:
 On Thursday, 25 September 2008, 11:27 (UTC-0400), Patrick Shanahan wrote:
  * Marianne Promberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-25-08 11:21]:
   
   Well, yes, but I am running mutt 1.5.15, and there I need my_hdr
   From for send-hooks, and that then messes up reverse_name. 
   
  
  iianm, the idea is to use reverse_name generally and send-hooks for
  specific situations.
  
 
 Yes.

Then, how do send-hooks mess up reverse_name?

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Re: Help Reqd in mutt

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:02 PM, quoth Maruvada, Suryakiran:
 1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.

 eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url?

 2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ? 
 Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ?

To quote the man page:

 -a file [...]
Attach a file to your message using MIME. To attach
multiple files, separating filenames and recipient
addresses with -- is mandatory,
e.g. mutt -a img.jpg *.png -- addr1 addr2

 3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.?

Use the file as input, like so:

 mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  message.txt

That's in the mutt man page too.

 4. What does mutt command returns.?

You could find that out by just trying a test message...

 5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In the 
 above command 
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail 
 Id
Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a 
 different folder.

Well, mutt won't move them, but you can do it all by yourself:

 mutt -s subject -a file1 file2  body.txt  \
 mv file1 file2 folder/

Is there some reason you don't want to do that?

A lot of this you can find out by just thumbing through the 
documentation.

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Re: Help Reqd in mutt

2008-09-25 Thread Maruvada, Suryakiran


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kyle Wheeler
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:47 PM
To: mutt-users@mutt.org
Subject: Re: Help Reqd in mutt

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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:02 PM, quoth Maruvada, Suryakiran:
 1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.

 eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url?

 2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ? 
 Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ?

To quote the man page:

 -a file [...]
Attach a file to your message using MIME. To attach
multiple files, separating filenames and recipient
addresses with -- is mandatory,
e.g. mutt -a img.jpg *.png -- addr1 addr2

 3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.?

Use the file as input, like so:

 mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  message.txt

That's in the mutt man page too.

 4. What does mutt command returns.?

You could find that out by just trying a test message...

 5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In
the 
 above command 
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail 
 Id
Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a 
 different folder.

Well, mutt won't move them, but you can do it all by yourself:

 mutt -s subject -a file1 file2  body.txt  \
 mv file1 file2 folder/

Is there some reason you don't want to do that?

A lot of this you can find out by just thumbing through the 
documentation.

~Kyle
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*

Thanks for a Quick Response...

For Point 1 . Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to
know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.. 

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url

ANSWER : 
echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 25 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 26 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch


For Point 4,and 5 my requirement is on successful sending of the Files
only I need to move the files from the current folder to Sent/ folder.
Hence I need to check the return value .

**


mutt eats tabs

2008-09-25 Thread Lin Tan
Hi,

Mutt eats the tabs (replaces them with blanks) in my email. How can I configure 
mutt to keep the whitespaces such as tabs intact?

Thanks a lo!

Lin


Re: mutt eats tabs

2008-09-25 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2008-09-25, Lin Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Mutt eats the tabs (replaces them with blanks) in my email. How 
 can I configure mutt to keep the whitespaces such as tabs intact?

No, it doesn't.  At least not in my experience.  Are you observing 
this in mail that you send from mutt, or in mail that you read using 
mutt?  What are you doing when you observe spaces where you think 
there should be tabs?

Regards,
Gary



Re: mutt eats tabs

2008-09-25 Thread Lin Tan
 
 No, it doesn't.  At least not in my experience.  Are you observing
 this in mail that you send from mutt, or in mail that you read using
 mutt?  What are you doing when you observe spaces where you think
 there should be tabs?
 

I used command mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  patch to send myself an email.
And then I used mutt v and s command to save it as a file, say patch.saved.

I noticed that all the tabs in file patch are replaced by blanks in 
patch.saved. I tested that the patch can be applied correctly but the 
patch.saved
can not. Then I manually replaced all the blanks in patch.saved with tabs, 
and then it can be applied without an error. 

my muttrc file is only a few lines:

set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8

set editor=vi

set spoolfile=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993/INBOX
set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993

# Default From:
my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Thanks,
Lin

 


Re: Unexpected network error

2008-09-25 Thread Ravi Uday
Hi Kyle,

Yes am using imap with mutt. $timeout was at 15. I reduced it to 10 now.
Here are the details:

set timeout=10
#set time_inc=250
set net_inc=1
set read_inc=10
set write_inc=10
set connect_timeout=10  #timeout a network connection after x secs


Hope th above should fix it. Will get back if it doesnt

Thanks,
Ravi

On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:45 PM, Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 On Wednesday, September 24 at 07:25 PM, quoth Ravi Uday:
 If i leave mutt open for say 1 or2 hrs theres 99% chance of the An
 unexpected network error occurred.   when I try to send mail using
 'y' key. I end up closing mutt reopen and then retry this time it
 goes through.

 There's not usually much more information than that, but that sort of
 error message suggests to me that you're using mutt to access an IMAP
 mailbox, and your connection timed out. I'd say reduce your timeout
 values ($timeout and $imap_keepalive).

 ~Kyle
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Re: mutt eats tabs

2008-09-25 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2008-09-25, Lin Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  No, it doesn't.  At least not in my experience.  Are you observing
  this in mail that you send from mutt, or in mail that you read using
  mutt?  What are you doing when you observe spaces where you think
  there should be tabs?
  
 
 I used command mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  patch to send myself an email.
 And then I used mutt v and s command to save it as a file, say
 patch.saved.
 
 I noticed that all the tabs in file patch are replaced by blanks
 in patch.saved. I tested that the patch can be applied
 correctly but the patch.saved can not. Then I manually replaced
 all the blanks in patch.saved with tabs, and then it can be
 applied without an error. 
 
 my muttrc file is only a few lines:
 
 set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8
 
 set editor=vi
 
 set spoolfile=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993/INBOX
 set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993
 
 # Default From:
 my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks for the clear description.  I can't argue with your
observations.  I can't replicate them with my setup, though.  I
created a file containing a paragraph of text indented by tabs and
mailed it to myself as you did with your patch.  I saved the
received message using v and s, also as you did.  The tabs were
still there.

I also saved the message to a new mbox folder, test_folder, using 
s in the index view, and verified that the tabs were still there.
Then I quit that mutt and started a new one like this:

   mutt -F /dev/null -f test_folder

I executed all the configuration commands you listed above.  Then I 
saved the message again using v and s.  The tabs are still 
there.

I'm using mutt 1.5.17.

I'm afraid I can't help.  Maybe someone else on the list can
replicate this and/or explain what's going on.

Regards,
Gary



Re: Unexpected network error

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, September 25 at 01:35 PM, quoth Ravi Uday:
Hi Kyle,

Yes am using imap with mutt. $timeout was at 15. I reduced it to 10 now.

Mutt's IMAP code didn't (until *very* recently) always behave itself 
when $timeout is smaller than $imap_keepalive (which defaults to 300). 
So unless you're following the hg devel tree pretty closely, I 
strongly recommend that you put $timeout back where it was and reduce 
$imap_keepalive.

~Kyle
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Re: mutt eats tabs

2008-09-25 Thread Lin Tan
 
  I used command mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  patch to send myself an email.
  And then I used mutt v and s command to save it as a file, say
  patch.saved.
 
  I noticed that all the tabs in file patch are replaced by blanks
  in patch.saved. I tested that the patch can be applied
  correctly but the patch.saved can not. Then I manually replaced
  all the blanks in patch.saved with tabs, and then it can be
  applied without an error.
 
  my muttrc file is only a few lines:
 
  set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8
 
  set editor=vi
 
  set spoolfile=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993/INBOX
  set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993
 
  # Default From:
  my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Thanks for the clear description.  I can't argue with your
 observations.  I can't replicate them with my setup, though.  I
 created a file containing a paragraph of text indented by tabs and
 mailed it to myself as you did with your patch.  I saved the
 received message using v and s, also as you did.  The tabs were
 still there.
 
 I also saved the message to a new mbox folder, test_folder, using
 s in the index view, and verified that the tabs were still there.
 Then I quit that mutt and started a new one like this:
 
mutt -F /dev/null -f test_folder
 
 I executed all the configuration commands you listed above.  Then I
 saved the message again using v and s.  The tabs are still
 there.
 
 I'm using mutt 1.5.17.
 
 I'm afraid I can't help.  Maybe someone else on the list can
 replicate this and/or explain what's going on.
 
Thank you so much for the effort in replicating my problem.
I am using the latest stable 1.4.2.3 version.  I will try 1.5.17.

Would you mind me sending you (not the mailing list) a small patch file, and
you can see if it contains tabs? Maybe this way, we can at least figure out if
the problem is in the sending process or the receiving process.

Lin 
 


Re: mutt eats tabs

2008-09-25 Thread Lin Tan
Never mind, I just checked that the patch sent out contains tabs. So there must 
be something wrong with the saving process. Thanks anyways.

-- 
Lin

On Thu, 25 Sep 2008, Lin Tan wrote:

  
   I used command mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  patch to send myself an email.
   And then I used mutt v and s command to save it as a file, say
   patch.saved.
  
   I noticed that all the tabs in file patch are replaced by blanks
   in patch.saved. I tested that the patch can be applied
   correctly but the patch.saved can not. Then I manually replaced
   all the blanks in patch.saved with tabs, and then it can be
   applied without an error.
  
   my muttrc file is only a few lines:
  
   set send_charset=us-ascii:utf-8
  
   set editor=vi
  
   set spoolfile=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993/INBOX
   set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]:993
  
   # Default From:
   my_hdr From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Thanks for the clear description.  I can't argue with your
  observations.  I can't replicate them with my setup, though.  I
  created a file containing a paragraph of text indented by tabs and
  mailed it to myself as you did with your patch.  I saved the
  received message using v and s, also as you did.  The tabs were
  still there.
 
  I also saved the message to a new mbox folder, test_folder, using
  s in the index view, and verified that the tabs were still there.
  Then I quit that mutt and started a new one like this:
 
 mutt -F /dev/null -f test_folder
 
  I executed all the configuration commands you listed above.  Then I
  saved the message again using v and s.  The tabs are still
  there.
 
  I'm using mutt 1.5.17.
 
  I'm afraid I can't help.  Maybe someone else on the list can
  replicate this and/or explain what's going on.
 
 Thank you so much for the effort in replicating my problem.
 I am using the latest stable 1.4.2.3 version.  I will try 1.5.17.
 
 Would you mind me sending you (not the mailing list) a small patch file, and
 you can see if it contains tabs? Maybe this way, we can at least figure out if
 the problem is in the sending process or the receiving process.
 
 Lin
 
 


Re: Unexpected network error

2008-09-25 Thread Ravi Uday
I dont ahve $imap_keepalive set.
So you want me to have this :

$timeout=15
$imap_keepalive=10


Ravi

On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Kyle Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Hi Kyle,

Yes am using imap with mutt. $timeout was at 15. I reduced it to 10 now.

 Mutt's IMAP code didn't (until *very* recently) always behave itself
 when $timeout is smaller than $imap_keepalive (which defaults to 300).
 So unless you're following the hg devel tree pretty closely, I
 strongly recommend that you put $timeout back where it was and reduce
 $imap_keepalive.

 ~Kyle
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Re: Unexpected network error

2008-09-25 Thread Kyle Wheeler
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On Thursday, September 25 at 04:26 PM, quoth Ravi Uday:
I dont ahve $imap_keepalive set.
So you want me to have this :

$timeout=15
$imap_keepalive=10

That's awfully small. You can make them bigger (e.g. timeout=300, 
imap_keepalive=60, or even larger). I know the man page makes it sound 
like timeout really needs to be extra small, but don't sweat it. The 
default is 600, and you generally don't really need it anywhere near 
as small as 15. Think about that: that's potentially checking your 
email every 15 seconds. Depending on the number of mailboxes you have 
and the latency of your  connection, it could easily take longer than 
that to complete a check for mail! I know mail admins that get grumpy 
when people check their email even every 5 minutes, due to all the 
network traffic they generate. When you're checking a file on disk, 
well, you can check that pretty dang often without a performance 
effect. But over the network? You may be causing your own problem by 
having such small timeouts.

Generally, I would say: stick with the default values unless you have 
a reason to change them (the defaults weren't chosen by morons). 
Chances are, you can probably leave $timeout at 600. Give the defaults 
a try, and go from there.

~Kyle
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Re: Help Reqd in mutt

2008-09-25 Thread Maruvada, Suryakiran
Hi Can any body help me for the points 1 and 5.

*

Thanks for a Quick Response...

For Point 1 . Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to
know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.. 

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url

ANSWER : 
echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 25 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 26 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch


For Point 4,and 5 my requirement is on successful sending of the Files
only I need to move the files from the current folder to Sent/ folder.
Hence I need to check the return value .



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Maruvada, Suryakiran
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:26 AM
To: Kyle Wheeler; mutt-users@mutt.org
Subject: Re: Help Reqd in mutt



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kyle Wheeler
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:47 PM
To: mutt-users@mutt.org
Subject: Re: Help Reqd in mutt

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On Thursday, September 25 at 12:02 PM, quoth Maruvada, Suryakiran:
 1. Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.

 eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail Id

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url?

 2 . Is there any command to send a list of files as attachments ? 
 Instead of  prefixing -a to each file ?

To quote the man page:

 -a file [...]
Attach a file to your message using MIME. To attach
multiple files, separating filenames and recipient
addresses with -- is mandatory,
e.g. mutt -a img.jpg *.png -- addr1 addr2

 3. I need to send the contents of a file as Message body. How.?

Use the file as input, like so:

 mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED]  message.txt

That's in the mutt man page too.

 4. What does mutt command returns.?

You could find that out by just trying a test message...

 5.  I need to move the list of files once the mail is sent ...ie. In
the 
 above command 
  eg mutt -a file1 -a file2  -s Sample Subject mail 
 Id
Once the mails are sent I need to move file1, file2 to a 
 different folder.

Well, mutt won't move them, but you can do it all by yourself:

 mutt -s subject -a file1 file2  body.txt  \
 mv file1 file2 folder/

Is there some reason you don't want to do that?

A lot of this you can find out by just thumbing through the 
documentation.

~Kyle
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*

Thanks for a Quick Response...

For Point 1 . Its not giving any error  but mail is not sent. How to
know the 
 error. How to de-bug such things.. 

How is mutt configured to send mail? What's the value of $sendmail 
and/or $smtp_url

ANSWER : 
echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 25 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch echo $sendmail
sendmail: Undefined variable.
stage2qa018 26 /x/web/STAGE2QA018/batch


For Point 4,and 5 my requirement is on successful sending of the Files
only I need to move the files from the current folder to Sent/ folder.
Hence I need to check the return value .

**