Encrypt to many recipients
Hello Everybody, I am trying to encrypt messages that go to a mailinglist to all the recipients ( e.g. gpg --encrypt -r member1 -r member2 ...) I tried the folowing: set send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] set 'pgp_encypt_only_command=gpg\ -v --batch --output - --encrypt --textmode -r member1 -rmember2 -- %f' But that does't work, since mutt is still looking for a gpg-key that fits for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does anybody know how make mutt not to search for pgp-keys ? PGP signature
lists=?
What is the proper way to set up lists I have tried to use set lists = [EMAIL PROTECTED] The manual says lists address address Tried that didn't go. The same for subscribed??? Thanks for any help. - Check out http://www.debian.org . Let Freedom Ring.
Re: lists=?
Thank-you It now works fine. I didn't need the set part. -- Check out http://www.debian.org . Let Freedom Ring.
Gmail IMAP multiple mail boxes
I'm trying to use mutt to send and receive mails from multiple gmail boxes. I have copied my config from http://wiki.mutt.org/?UserStory/GmailMultiIMAP. But when I invoke mutt, it shows me it's looking at /var/mail/me. When I quit mutt, it says 'closing connection to gmail' Here's my config file account-hookimaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'set [EMAIL PROTECTED] imap_pass=password1' account-hookimaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED] 'set [EMAIL PROTECTED] imap_pass=password2' folder-hook 'imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/' folder-hook 'imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/' set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailboxes =INBOX set folder=imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailboxes =INBOX unset folder unset imap_passive folder-hook'imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set smtp_url=smtps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]' folder-hook'imaps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]' 'set smtp_url=smtps://[EMAIL PROTECTED]' macro index,pager S save-message=[Gmail]/Spamentermark message as spam macro index,pager H save-message=INBOXenter mark message as ham Thanks.
Gmail and multiple mail box
I'm trying to view multiple gmail mail boxes. At the moment I can only see one of the mail boxes. Here's my .muttrc file set from=us...@gmail.com set realname=Chris set reverse_name=yes set reverse_realname=no set imap_user = 'us...@gmail.com' set imap_pass = password set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993/INBOX set from=us...@gmail.com set realname=Chris set reverse_name=yes set reverse_realname=no set imap_user = 'us...@gmail.com' set imap_pass = password set spoolfile = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993/INBOX set smtp_url=smtp://us...@smtp.gmail.com:587/ set smtp_pass = password set smtp_url=smtp://us...@smtp.gmail.com:587/ set smtp_pass = password set folder = imaps://imap.gmail.com:993 set record=+[Gmail]/Sent Mail set postponed=+[Gmail]/Drafts set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/headers set message_cachedir=~/.mutt/cache/bodies set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certificates set move=no set delete=yes set include set reply_to set abort_nosubject=no Thanks.
sending mail via exchange
I have configured Mutt 1.5.16 to check mail via MS Exchange (IMAP). I can see all my mail boxes, query for email addresses from Exchange etc. However, I cannot send mail from mutt via Exchange. Do I need to use external program like msmtp or is there any configuration I can do in .muttrc to send mails as well. Thanks.
Re: sending mail via exchange
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 3:55 PM, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote: El día Tuesday, June 02, 2009 a las 03:45:14PM +1000, Chris escribió: I have configured Mutt 1.5.16 to check mail via MS Exchange (IMAP). I can see all my mail boxes, query for email addresses from Exchange etc. However, I cannot send mail from mutt via Exchange. Do I need to use external program like msmtp or is there any configuration I can do in .muttrc to send mails as well. Thanks. Can you talk SMTP to the Exchange at all? What does give you the following command: $ telnet brain.dead.exchange.no 25 (substitute brain.dead.exchange.no by the DNS or IP addr of the server). telnet to port 25 works. It's open.
mutt new mail notification
I'm using mutt v1.5.19 to check mails in MS Exchange IMAP folders. Is there any way I could get mutt to notify me of new mails on arrival on various IMAP folders? Thanks.
sidebars
I'm using mutt 1.5.19 - is there any way to get sidebars without patching mutt or using any external program/ plugin? Thanks.
Attach to shared mailbox in Exchange
Does anyone know how can I attach to a shared mailbox in Exchange from Mutt? I'm running mutt 1.5.20. Thanks.
Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Hello everybody, I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. Any hints ?? Greetings Christoph -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
replied to Michael insted of mutt-users, sorry: - Forwarded message from chris - Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2002 16:33:21 +0200 To: Michael Tatge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:45:02PM +0200 , schrieb Michael Tatge: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: Hello everybody, I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. set mark_old=no if you don't like this behaviour. I did. :) But that is not what i wanted. When mark_old=no, the old unread messages seem to be new too. But there are Messages in my mailbox which weren't there when I ran mutt the last time. And these are marked with an O instead of an N. Understand ? Or are the mailboxes opened when starting mutt with -y ? That would explain why mutt thinks the mailbox was opened before. Christoph HTH, Michael -- PGP-Key: http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~tatgeml/public.key -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0 - End forwarded message - -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
* Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:47:18AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: % * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 03:45:02PM +0200 , schrieb Michael Tatge: % [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) muttered: ... %I start mutt with the -y option to see which mailboxes contain new mails. %If I enter a mailbox which was marked with a N , all mails in this So you do see an 'N' in the browser view, then. %mailbox are marked with an O instead of an N. Hokay; you must have been here before and then exited with $mark_old set. % % set mark_old=no if you don't like this behaviour. I did. :) % % But that is not what i wanted. When mark_old=no, the old unread messages % seem to be new too. But there are Messages in my mailbox which weren't % there when I ran mutt the last time. And these are marked with an O % instead of an N. Understand ? So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox. When you return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even though you've never before laid eyes on message five. Correct? Correct. Message one through four are morked O when I haven't read them and marked not if I have read them. This is how i want it. But message five is marked O although I never laid eyes on it. If so, that is quite interesting. Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any folder? Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header? I see New mails in my spool but not in the mutt-user mbox. And i am using procmail, but it doesn't write Status or X-Status headers And I see New mails in the folder-list. What type of mailfolder are you using? For a folder =mybox, what do you see when you run ls -lF $MAIL/mybox? I use mbox folders. chris@trillian:~$ ls -lF Mail/mutt-users -rw-rw1 chrisusers 425032 9. Apr 18:58 Mail/mutt-users chris@trillian:~$ ls -lF /var/spool/mail/chris -rw-rw1 chrismail15628 9. Apr 19:07 /var/spool/mail/chris What if, assuming it's an mbox folder, you (after first copying the mailbox to a temp mailbox to avoid corruption!) edit the file and remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on that folder? Are the messages still old, or are they finally new? They are all new. % Or are the mailboxes opened when starting mutt with -y ? That would % explain why mutt thinks the mailbox was opened before. No, they aren't; see the oft-recurring why doesn't mutt tell me I have new mail? and can mutt tell me how many new mails I have? discussions for more on this. Greetings Christoph HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Hello again, I tried a little and i think this Problem is NOT mutts problem. I tried some biffs and they all had the same problem. (except mailcheck). So i think it either procmail or fetchmail do something strange to the mails. I will just have to wait a little until there are enough new mails in my mailfolders, make a backup and then check what makes the difference. I will tell you what I found out tomorrow (hopefully) And thank you Christoph * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 12:57:53PM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: Christoph -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % % * Am Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:47:18AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G: ... % % So you had, say, messages one through four in your mailbox. When you % return, they as well as a new message five are all marked old, even % though you've never before laid eyes on message five. Correct? % % Correct. Message one through four are morked O when I haven't read Hokay. % them and marked not if I have read them. This is how i want it. But % message five is marked O although I never laid eyes on it. That's interesting. You say you've never seen the message before, and I'll believe that, but forgive me if I dig on a bit more. How does this message get into the mailbox in question? Does procmail deliver it directly? Does all mail land in $spoolfile and then get moved elsewhere? % % If so, that is quite interesting. Do you ever see 'N'ew mails in any % folder? Are you using procmail or any other filtering software which % might be writing a Status: or X-Status: header? % % I see New mails in my spool but not in the mutt-user mbox. And i am How do mails get into the mutt-user mailbox? Is that for incoming or outgoing? And do you always see new mail in $spoolfile as you expect to, or does the problem sometimes come up there, too? % using procmail, but it doesn't write Status or X-Status headers % And I see New mails in the folder-list. The folder-list doesn't count; don't worry about that. And I didn't really expect that procmail would write such headers, but it's worth checking. % % What type of mailfolder are you using? For a folder =mybox, what do you % see when you run ls -lF $MAIL/mybox? % % I use mbox folders. Hokay; all I've told you, then, is valid. Maildir, for instance, marks its messages as old and read differently. % ... % remove any Status: and X-Status: fields you find and then run mutt on % that folder? Are the messages still old, or are they finally new? % % They are all new. Good; that part works. HTH HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! -- gpg fingerprint: 88DA B106 D973 B2AF 7CCB 725A F76C 803C 758F 71C0
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Hello again, I tried out nearly any combination of fetchmail, exim, procmail and getmail. And the result is: It's procmail. I don't know why, but NOT using procmail doesn't insert the Status tags in the header. I just could't figure out, what the problem is. When I use an empty procmailrc , everything is fine. Using just some of my recipies is fine also. But using my hole procmailrc doesn't work. Is anybody interested in reading it ? (154 lines) So i think I will just use dropmail. Does anybody know how to pipe the headers to lbdb-fetchaddr in dropmail ? That is the only reason I can't use it at the moment. Greetings Christoph
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
* Am Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 06:39:47AM -0500 , schrieb David T-G:
% Is anybody interested in reading it ? (154 lines)
Sure.
So here it comes: (my procmailrc)
LOGFILE=/home/chris/.procmail.log
LOGABSTRACT=all
VERBOSE=yes
#Backup
:0 c
Mail/backup
:0 ic
| cd backup rm -f dummy `ls -t msg.* | sed -e 1,32d`
# Damit GPG/PGP Header richtig sind
:0
* !^Content-Type: message/
* !^Content-Type: multipart/
* !^Content-Type: application/pgp
{
:0 fBw
* ^-BEGIN PGP MESSAGE-
* ^-END PGP MESSAGE-
| formail \
-i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=encrypt
:0 fBw
* ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
* ^-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
* ^-END PGP SIGNATURE-
| formail \
-i Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign
}
:0hc
| lbdb-fetchaddr
:0:
* ^From.*Mailer-Daemon
Mail/system
:0:
* ^From.*uucp@marvin
Mail/marvin
:0:
* ^Return-path.*root@trillian
Mail/system
:0:
* ^Subject.*MailStatistics
Mail/system
:0:
* ^Subject.*rhizom
Mail/rhizom
:0:
* ^Reply-To: party-l
Mail/party-l
:0:
* ^List-Id:.*gnupg-users.gnupg.org
Mail/gnupg-users
:0:
* ^List-Id.*inferno-l.inferno.nadir.org
Mail/inferno-l
# -- doesn't work yet -
# hiermit werden alle Absender nach inferno-l.list geschrieben, wenn sie noch
# nicht drin stehen. (hoffentlich)
#:0 Whc:
#* ^List-Id.*inferno-l.inferno.nadir.org
#| formail -rD 8192 inferno-l.cache
# :0 ehc
# | formail -x From /home/chris/inferno-l.list
:0:
* ^List-Id.*imc.inferno.nadir.org
Mail/imc
:0:
* ^List-Id.*wohnprojekt-l
Mail/wohnprojekt-l
:0:
* ^List-Id.*sz-info.inferno
Mail/sz-info
:0:
* ^List-Id.*alle.inferno.nadir.org
Mail/alle
:0:
* ^From.*heise.de
Mail/telepolis
:0:
* ^From.*support@inferno
Mail/support
:0:
* ^From.*todo@inferno
Mail/todo
:0:
* ^From.*inhaltliches@inferno
:0:
* ^List-Id:.*szwww-l.inferno.nadir.org
Mail/szwww-l
:0:
* ^To:.*[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail/szwww-l
:0:
* ^Mailing-List:.*lists.ccc.de
Mail/debate
:0:
* ^List-ID.*connect.squat.net
Mail/connect
:0:
* ^List-ID.*ccc-l
Mail/ccc-l
:0:
* ^List-Id.*gentoo-user.gentoo.org
Mail/gentoo-user
:0:
* ^List-Id.*automail-l
Mail/automail-l
:0:
* ^List-Id.*keysignings.lists.alt.org
Mail/keysignings
:0:
* ^Sender:.*mutt-users
Mail/mutt-users
:0:
* ^List-Id.*technix-l
Mail/technix-l
Have fun with it
Christoph
Re: Mails are always tagged as old but unread
Hello everybody, I solved the problem with the Messages that seemed to be old, although i never had a look at them. I just made a procmail recipe which filters the Status: and X-Status: headers. Here it is, just in case somebody might need ist someday: :0 fhw |formail -I Status -I X-Status This doesn't solve the Problem, but since i couldn't firgure out which program put the headers into my mails, this snippet at least works. Greetings Christoph
calling firefox from mutt - urlview
I'm using urlview v0.9 with mutt v1.5.12 and firefox v2.0.0.3 on OpenBSD 4.1. I just put the following line in my /home/me/.urlview and nothing in .muttrc or anywhere else. When I go to mutt and press CTRL-b, it shows the url list and when I click one of the URLs, it opens up firefox and nothing else happens. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks. .urlview - REGEXP ((http|https|ftp|gopher):(//)?[^ \t]*|www\.[-a-z0-9.]+)[^ .,;\t\):] COMMAND /usr/bin/nohup firefox -remote openURL(%s, new-tab) /dev/null 21
set spoolfile
I set my spoolfile in .muttrc as /home/user/Mail/username and did a cat /var/mail/username /home/user/Mail/username and it looks ok. But every time I fetchmail (using fetchmail), it gets ended up in /var/mail/username. Is there any way to fetch the mails in /home/user/Mail/username? I also use procmail to filter mails. Thanks.
delete duplicate mails
I read the previous posts and tried in my inbox - press D, use ~= as the search pattern, press $ to save. But nothing happens. ~= doesn't tag anything and so nothing gets deleted. I am sure I have duplicate mails in my inbox as I downloaded each mail 2~3 times. I use fetchmail(1) to get mails, procmail(1) filters them before they land on my inbox or in their specific mboxes. I'm using Mutt v1.5.12 on OpenBSD4.1 Any kind of help would be much appreciated. Thanks.
some ideas about mutt sidebar patch
I have use sidebar path for a long time.
Now I find it can be improved with some features.
1. Change the flag emails number with new emails reply to me or my thread.
Detail:
Mutt sidebar path has three number 100(90)[3].
The `100` is the all emails number.
The `(90)` is the new emails number.
The `[3]` is the [!] flagged emails number.
I think the flagged emails number is not so important. Usually I will n=
ot go=20
to see how much flagged emails in mailbox. I would prefer to see how ma=
ny=20
new emails which reply only to me or reply to my send emails (thread in=
a=20
mailing list).
2. I have subscribed many mailing list, and have some other separate mailbo=
xes. =20
Just in order to categories them.
I find it is too long for sidebar now.
When I press C-n to scroll down. sidebar can not display one mailbox w=
hen=20
scroll a page.
mailbox
mailbox
mailbox
--- next page
mailbox (when scroll, this mailbox can not be displayed.)
mailbox
mailbox
mailbox
So I think sidebar path should some feature like collapse a mailbox gro=
up.
e.g.
Vim
anon
dev
user
can be collapsed to:
Vim+
This is all I suggest.
If you have any thinks on my two ideas, please tell.
And of course, I can not write code for sidebar. I'm just a user.
(Because if I can write code, I will write by myself.)
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how to set up an macro to jump to a mail matching a pattern ?
I want to bind key Tab to a macro which jump to a mail matching the pattern:
e.g. here is a pattern.
~x .*@stardiviner
I do not know where mutt has this function to jump to a mail.
macro index esctab key sequence
In one words:
I want this macro to do this:
Try to find whether has mail matching this pattern: ~x .*@stardiviner.
If not, then jump to another pattern ~P.
If not, then jump to next unread mail with next-unread-mail
Thanks in advance.
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Re: how to set up an macro to jump to a mail matching a pattern ?
Excerpts from [ David Champion ] On [2012-07-16 10:49:44 -0500]:
* On 16 Jul 2012, chris wrote:
I want to bind key Tab to a macro which jump to a mail matching the
pattern:
e.g. here is a pattern.
~x .*@stardiviner
I do not know where mutt has this function to jump to a mail.
macro index esctab key sequence
It does; it's called search.
In one words:
I want this macro to do this:
Try to find whether has mail matching this pattern: ~x .*@stardiviner.
If not, then jump to another pattern ~P.
If not, then jump to next unread mail with next-unread-mail
That is harder though. You can make a macro to search for any of those
patterns, but your logic as described amounts to a seqence of if/else
conditions, and you can't make a macro do that.
In other words, if you have messages in this order:
1. mail matching ~x .*@stardiviner
...
10. mail matching ~N (unread)
...
15. mail matching ~P
...
30. mail matching ~x .*@stardiviner
I have found one way to close my target a little:
macro index Tab search~N (~x .*@stardiviner)enter
But I still do not know how to apply ? into this patter. the ? in this
pattern seems is literal. The ? will call help.
You can make a macro that skips from 1 to 10 to 15 to 30, but you can't
make a macro that goes from 1 to 30 to 15 to 10, which is what your
conditional logic describes.
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Re: how to set up an macro to jump to a mail matching a pattern ?
Excerpts from [ Tom Furie ] On [2012-07-17 01:19:29 +0100]:
On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 07:53:23AM +0800, chris wrote:
I have found one way to close my target a little:
macro index Tab search~N (~x .*@stardiviner)enter
But I still do not know how to apply ? into this patter. the ? in this
pattern seems is literal. The ? will call help.
Are you looking for '?' as the single character wildcard? That would be
'.'.
No. I do not know what ? does, but I guess it is about conditional.
I found ? in this: macro index Tab change-mailbox?search
Cheers,
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Sorting forever when connecting to IMAP
Hi, when I start mutt to connect to my IMAP account at work (which is a David / Tobit server) mutt downloads the headers of my approximately 700 mails in my inbox within a minute or so. When it is afterwords sorting the mailbox it is staying there forever. Sometimes it finishes after maybe 15 minutes but most of the times it is not going any further at all. I tried with and without header and message cache but that didn't seem to make any difference. I am running Mutt 1.5.20 on Ubuntu 10.04. It is the same at work with Mutt 1.5.20 under Cygwin on Windows 7. My freenet.de inbox though with 600 messages shows up within seconds, also accessed via IMAP. The only difference I can see is that I cannot use any encryption (SSL/TLS) with my work account so connecting there with plain IMAP while I use IMAPS for freenet. Are there any settings to speed that sorting up? Could it be a problem with the David / Tobit IMAP server? With my android smart phone I cannot see any delay in accessing the David / Tobit IMAP server. Thanks in advance, Chris
Re: Sorting forever when connecting to IMAP
* Paolo Pisati p.pis...@gmail.com [18.10.2012 10:43]: i don't know what's your problem but i can give you a suggestion: use offlineimap. Thanks for your feed back. I just started using offlineimap for my private mail account. Haven't done it for my work mails yet since I cannot just download all of the folders from work. That would just flood my notebook at home. And I haven't really looked into all the configuration and settings yet, as well as setting it up to run in the background. Can you recommend some tutorials or manuals on offlineimap to start with? Cheers, Chris
more on maildir
Having put:- set mbox_type=Maildir in the .muttrc, what else do I need? I.e. do I need to specify where the Maildir directory is with a set of some sort and if I use a set folder will mutt create maildirs in that directory? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Reply-To: header in mails
Warning Could not process message with given Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=AhhlLboLdkugWU4S; micalg=pgp-sha1;protocol="application/pgp-signature"
Oddity using Maildir
I am using mutt with Maildir, it appears not to be able to find its Maildir 'mailboxes' properly. I have a Maildir called 'purchases' for example. If when reading new incoming mail (which works fine, mail in $HOME/Maildir) I hit 'c' to change mailbox and then enter 'purchases' I get the message "purchases is not a mailbox". however if I hit ? to get a list of mailboxes then 'purchases' is there and I can select it successfully. What's wrong? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Handling large amounts of mail
On Wed, Jun 2, 1999, Peter Schuller wrote: Anyone? I'd very much like to switch to mutt, but how do you manage around 300 mails per day? I use procmail and filter various mailing lists into various folders. I usually get around 200-400 emails per day. I often end up with ~3000 email messages before I clean out my mail folders. I must say, Mutt handles immense amounts of email very well. -- Chris Costello[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Soviet Union does not exist any more in its present format.
Re: Unix Dummy Help!
On Wed, Jun 9, 1999, FRASER, BOB wrote: This is where Mutt comes in.. I really need basic instructions on compiling the utility of my system. No I do not need help on starting my computer. But I do need line by line instructions on generating the executable. The best way to get information on how to compile and install Mutt is to look at the file 'INSTALL' in your tree. To decompress your .tar.gz archive of Mutt, you would execute the following command: gzip -dc mutt-0.96.2i.tar.gz | tar xvf - Of course, replace 'mutt-0.96.2i.tar.gz' with whatever 'tarball' you've downloaded. Hope this helps. -- Chris Costello[EMAIL PROTECTED] E Pluribus UNIX.
Auto-expunge?
Hey there.. I just recently converted to mutt from pine. So far, I'm very happy. Is there a way to set mutt to auto-expunge when changing folders or when exiting? I've dug through the documentation, some of the web pages, and several people's posted rc files. Most likely I'm looking for the wrong word, but I can't find many references to "expunge". I appreciate the help! For the record, I'm using mutt-0.95.6-us on RH6.0. -- Chris Grossmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tunl.duke.edu/~grossman/ "Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western."
Mailbox view not always indicating new messages
Is there some setting that I am missing for Mutt not to display that there are new messages when I am in mailbox view, but there are messages INSIDE that mailbox with the new flag? BTW, I was a long time Pine user, and finally bothered to sit down and configure Mutt - I am definitely glad I did that. Now I wonder why I never did this before :) -- Chris Gushue [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.thezone.net/~seymour
Re: Email client poll
On Thu, Jul 15, 1999 at 11:18:45AM +0200, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: "Alex, I´m honest -- Outlook is very good and totally fits my needs... so - why do you use mutt?" * to show my individuality * because I can randomize my signatures with it * because I'd like to be able to read my mail even when N$ crashes * because I'd like to answer fast * I'm a keyboard person * I'd like to know that there is source I can use if things go amiss. * Modularity "because mutt is very good and totally fits _my_ needs." :-) Cheers, Chris -- Chris Tilbury, UNIX Systems Administrator, IT Services, University of Warwick PHONE: 024 7652 3365 / FAX: 024 7652 3267 / MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mailbox view not always indicating new messages
Thus wrote Chris Gushue ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.13 20:39]: Is there some setting that I am missing for Mutt not to display that there are new messages when I am in mailbox view, but there are messages INSIDE that mailbox with the new flag? To follow up with some extra information, if I receive new mail in a folder, in the Mailbox view the N flag is shown. When I open the folder, but don't read the new email, and then go back out of the folder, the N flag is gone from the Mailbox view. Any ideas? -- Chris Gushue [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:409207 http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3
Re: Mailbox view not always indicating new messages
Thus wrote David Thorburn-Gundlach ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.16 15:16]: Chris -- ...and then Chris Gushue said... % Thus wrote Chris Gushue ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.13 20:39]: % are new messages when I am in mailbox view, but there are messages INSIDE % that mailbox with the new flag? % % To follow up with some extra information, if I receive new mail in a % folder, in the Mailbox view the N flag is shown. When I open the folder, % but don't read the new email, and then go back out of the folder, the N % flag is gone from the Mailbox view. Any ideas? How are you exiting the folder? If you quit, or change without first specifying that the folder should not be written (bound to % by default), instead of exit, then the new messages are all marked old and, technically, there *isn't* any new mail therein. I exit the folder using this macro: macro index l "g?\t" (I also have the same macro for the pager) Go back into one of these folders and see if you have new mail or if all unread messages are marked "O" for old-but-unread. When I go back into the folder, the messages I haven't read are still marked "N" (I had "set nomark_old" - commenting this out marked the old-but-unread messages as "O", but with the same behaviour otherwise). Perhaps something that would be useful (if it isn't already there) is to have another flag in the Mailbox view to show there are old-but-unread messages in a folder, instead of just new ones? -- Chris Gushue [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:409207 http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3
Re: Mailbox view not always indicating new messages
Thus wrote David DeSimone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.17 02:30]: Regarding marking viewed folders with yet-unread messages... I used to use "xbuffy" for this very purpose. It would scan my folders and give me a view of what folders needed to be examined for new mail. I wouldn't even have to be running Mutt to see what mail was waiting, and I could use xbuffy to launch Mutt on the particular folder. Nice. xbuffy isn't *quite* what I'm looking for, but it might come in handy. I guess I'm just used to Window Maker dock apps :) I'll have to browse though the Freshmeat appindex again... Now that my company has forced me to IMAP, I no longer have a good solution for this. My attempts to build "gbuffy" have utterly failed, alas.. :( It built fine for me, but seems to be a bit more of a pain than xbuffy is. -- Chris Gushue [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:409207 http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3 PGP signature
Re: Another PGP question
Thus wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.17 06:29]: On 0, rex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AFAIK there is a keybinding in mutt that allows to extract a PGP public key. In my help-menu for the index there is a line ^K extract-keys extract PGP public keys Unfortunately if I use the required keys (ctrl + K) this keybinding wont add the requested PGP-public-key to my ~/.pgp/pubring.pgp file. Try it on this message. Hi, I am new to this list, I have found a similar problem, the trouble that I am having is that, when I use ^K, it fires up gpg, but it does not give you a chance to see the output, therefore the only way to check if the key has been added is by invoking gpg wiht --list-public-keys For example, when I tried it on this message, as you suggest :), it did not add the key. It found it alright, but I could not see what the error was, after saving this to a file, and invoking gpg manually, I find: gpg: key 6C620FC9: unsupported public key algorithm gpg: key 6C620FC9: no valid user ids gpg: this may be caused by a missing self-signature gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg: w/o user IDs: 1 and hence this wont have been added. It would be useful if the output was caught somewhere, or an opitional pause was added, is this the case ? cya This is what I got when using ^K on the same message: gpg (GnuPG) 0.9.8; Copyright (C) 1999 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details. gpg: armor header: Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use gpg: pub 1024R/6C620FC9 1994-07-13 Rex Sheasby [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: key 6C620FC9: unsupported public key algorithm gpg: key 6C620FC9: skipped userid 'Rex Sheasby [EMAIL PROTECTED]' gpg: key 6C620FC9: skipped userid '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' gpg: key 6C620FC9: skipped userid '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' gpg: key 6C620FC9: skipped userid '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Press any key to continue... I get the "Press any key to continue..." prompt when doing most gpg stuff from within Mutt, maybe you have something set differently? (My pgp/gpg settings are all default ones). -- --- Chris Gushue[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3 ICQ:409207 GPG Fingerprint: 5188 B69C 21B4 8932 D807 9D59 6267 7C5F 6174 4D90 --- PGP signature
How to save message in non-maildir format?
I have mutt set up and working on my RedHat Linux system using qmail and maildir format mailboxes. How can I save an E-Mail message in 'not a maildir' format when, for example, I want to import it into another program? I know I can find the text in the maildir but it's messy and there's more junk to get rid of afterwards as well. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Re: Email client poll
Thus wrote Renaud Colinet ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.19 16:30]: on Jul 19, Gerrit Holl wrote: Why? Are there actually things where pine is better? Some people seem to like a menu-driven system, I think... What's wrong with that? I was a long time Pine user before switching to mutt and I must admit that their menus are quite well designed and make it easy to use very quickly. You can do whatever you want with a few keystrokes. I don't really know what made me change for mutt (well, actually it was a little pressure from a mutt-addict friend) because pine suited me fine for what I did (of course now I would never consider the inverse change). But the thing is that at first I was a but puzzled by mutt's keybindings (which of course totally differ from pine's) and constantly had to refer to the help before being productive. So a menu-driven system is IMHO not necessarily a Bad Thing, so long as it is intuitive and you don't have to dive through (n+1) sub-levels to reach the desired command. Sounds just like my reasons for switching to Mutt :) One thing that helped ease the switch a great deal was the Pine.rc file in contrib/ in the source distribution, to set up Pine-like key bindings. Then I just went nuts from there, configuring all kinds of stuff, some of which I always wished Pine had (such as running a program to generate a signature, and having colour). I would never consider a switch back either... -- --- Chris Gushue[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3 ICQ:409207 GPG Fingerprint: 5188 B69C 21B4 8932 D807 9D59 6267 7C5F 6174 4D90 --- PGP signature
Re: How to save message in non-maildir format?
Thus wrote David DeSimone ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.07.19 19:14]: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I save an E-Mail message in 'not a maildir' format? set mbox_type=mbox Is the maildir format the one where each message is a seperate file? Or is that the MH format... I'm only familiar with the mbox format, easy to use between Linux clients and Eudora on Windows :) -- --- Chris Gushue[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3 ICQ:409207 GPG Fingerprint: 5188 B69C 21B4 8932 D807 9D59 6267 7C5F 6174 4D90 --- PGP signature
Re: [MAILER-DAEMON@shao: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA]
On Tue, Jul 20, 1999 at 11:14:49AM +0200, Andreas Kahari wrote: On July 20 (Tuesday) 1999, at 10:55:58 +0200, Christian Schult wrote: Shao Zhang wrote: What does this really mean?? - Forwarded message from Mail System Internal Data MAILER-DAEMON@shao - [cut] Pine creates this. If you don't use pine - just delete the message. If you still sometimes use pine, just delete the message, pine creates a new one. Don't know what it is good for, but i never had trouble with pine after deleting this messages. christian Just a random FAQ pointer: http://www.warwick.ac.uk/services/csv/docs/unix/faqs/faqs/8.html There might be a better answer in another FAQ somewhere... My god! I wrote this :-) It's more than likely your POP or IMAP server creating this message, not pine. Cheers, Chris -- Chris Tilbury, UNIX Systems Administrator, IT Services, University of Warwick PHONE: 024 7652 3365 / FAX: 024 7652 3267 / MAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booting to X
Oops, sorry about that. Just woke up and sent an email to the wrong list. -- --- Chris Gushue ---+--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Web Page| http://home.thezone.net/~seymour/index.php3 GPG Fingerprint | 5188 B69C 21B4 8932 D807 9D59 6267 7C5F 6174 4D90 +- PGP signature
Re: Message Width
Thus wrote Matthew Cordes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [99.08.13 18:31]: How might i change the width of the messages i send? By that i mean the number of characters per line in each/all messages. thanks -matt It depends on the editor you use. I use pico, so i put this in my ~/.mutt/muttrc: set editor="/usr/bin/pico -r72" I'm sure other editors have similar options. -- -- Chris Gushue - ICQ:409207 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GCS d- s+:- a23 C++$ UL+++ P+++ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w--- O- M-- V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+ X++ R- tv+ b++ DI+ D+ G++ e h! r y+ -- http://seymour.napalm.net --- http://owirc.napalm.net --
archiving mailboxes each month
Is there a way to archive mailboxes at the beginning of every month (or some other period) like Pine does? Just after a couple weeks, my debian-user mailbox (mbox) is 3.6 MB with over 1200 messages. As the mailbox gets bigger, Mutt takes longer to open it. Eg. move the contents of debian-user to debian-user-1999-aug Any solution would be great, not necessarily a mutt-specific one (eg. procmail/crontab/scripts/etc). I'm sure I saw a message about this on a mailing list I am on, but couldn't find anything. Perhaps it was on a newsgroup somewhere... -- -- Chris Gushue - ICQ:409207 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GCS d- s+:- a23 C++$ UL+++ P+++ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w--- O- M-- V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP+ t++ 5+ X++ R- tv+ b++ DI+ D+ G++ e h! r y+ -- http://seymour.napalm.net --- http://owirc.napalm.net -- PGP signature
Re: archiving mailboxes each month
Gerald Oskoboiny ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 1999 at 04:03:52AM -0230, Chris Gushue wrote: I guess I should paste basically what I am now doing with procmail. ## ~/.procmailrc looks good... :0: * 0inbox The "*" line here isn't needed; if there are no "*" lines procmail applies the rule. I wasn't aware of that, but I haven't been messing with procmail for all that long. ## end of ~/.procmailrc With this being my folder list for mutt: ## ~/.mutt/folders # Mail folders set folder=~/mail set spoolfile=+0inbox # Dated mailboxes mailboxes +1999-08/debian-user mailboxes +1999-08/linux-kernel mailboxes +1999-08/mutt-users Plus all of my other lists and procmail recipes. The only "bad" thing about this is that I have to manually add some new mailbox entries each month in my mutt rc file, but I think I can handle that :) You can get around this by using: mailboxes `find ~/mail -type f -print` (untested, but I use something similar.) That didn't work for me, Mutt flashed some error message while starting up, but it went too fast for me to see what it was. It might have had "regexp" in there somewhere (after thinking about this, it might be because of the ~ character. Using an absolute path might work fine). Anyway, I don't think I'll want to list *all* of my mail folders. Using a 800x600 frame buffer console, I get a 100x37 screen, and I like to have most of my mailboxes listed on the first screen if possible. My current plans are to possibly make directories such as 1999/08 and 1999/09 as my mail accumulates. So I will just have Mutt display 1999/08/ and 1999/09/, and eventually 1999/ and 2000/, when there are enough folders. So something like: mailboxes +1999/08 mailboxes +1999/09 mailboxes +1999-10/debian-user mailboxes +1999-10/linux-kernel mailboxes +1999-10/mutt-users and in February: mailboxes +1999 mailboxes +2000/01 mailboxes +2000-02/debian-user mailboxes +2000-02/linux-kernel mailboxes +2000-02/mutt-users That way, only the current month's mailboxes are shown, but I can still easily access the older stuff - the "hard" way would probably just involve an extra keypress :) Note that most other mailers I've used can't even think about doing stuff like this. :) You're definitely right about that :) Thanks again to everyone that helped. No problem! -- -- Chris Gushue -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GCS d- s+:- a23 C++$ UL+++ P+++ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w--- O- M-- V- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5+ X++ R- tv+ b++ DI+ D+ G++ e h! r y+ -- http://seymour.napalm.net --- http://owirc.napalm.net -- PGP signature
message width in vim?
I *know* I saw how to do this recently on a mailing list but I couldn't find it. I need to know how to set the message width when using vim as my editor. I didn't see anything helpful in the vim docs for this, but I might have missed something. (Not much traffic on this list lately it seems) -- -- Chris Gushue -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- GCS d- s+:- a23 C++$ UL+++ P+++ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K- w--- O- M-- V- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP++ t++ 5+ X++ R- tv+ b++ DI+ D+ G++ e h! r y+ -- http://seymour.napalm.net --- http://owirc.napalm.net -- PGP signature
Re: How can I use outgoing mail server not local host?
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 12:10:18AM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: 1) That philosophy is a good one, but implimenting POP3 and IMAP flies in the face of it, making Mutt a minimalist MDA, in addition to an MUA. Not a complaint, but an observation. Technically, either both should be supported minimally, or neither, IMHO. POP3: Yes, and this is why removing it from Mutt is a perennial(sp) debate. IMAP: Not quite the same, since even though IMAP is often remote, at the core it's just another popular mailbox/folder format such as mbox, Maildir, etc. It's proper for Mutt as a mail reader to support it. The primary purpose/action is not transferring the mail (indeed, you usually don't really "download" it), it's reading/browsing/composing it. Well I would view POP3 as a [very] cut down IMAP. *Sensible* MUAs implement POP3 as a mailbox which is left on the server, i.e. they just show the E-Mails in the MUA without deleting them from the server. They only delete the mail from the POP3 mailbox if the user explictly deletes a message. So from the user's point of view it looks just like an ordinary mail folder. Most Unix MUAs that implement POP3 do it this way (tkrat, Mahogany, xcmail, xfmail) but for some reason I have yet to find a Windows one that does (except the Mahogany port of course). If mutt was rather cleverer on this front then I wouldn't be looking for other MUAs at the moment. I'll expand on this in another message! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
POP3 support and 'multiple personalities'
I have been using mutt on a number of different systems for quite a long while (since something like version 0.7x I think). It has served me well and has become steadily better. However I am now seriously looking at other MUAs and one of the main reasons is mutt's minimal POP3 support. Let me explain my situation, I have a home (Linux mostly) system, I work every day at a Sun workstation and I have this shell account which I can telnet into from both home and work. I have a number of different ISP accounts and other places from which I collect mail via POP3. In an ideal world I would have a single ISP account which provided IMAP4 and I could get all the other accounts to send my mail there and do everything using IMAP4. However this is the real world and ISPs are not all that keen on providing IMAP4. So - what I am beginning to do is move over to a mail program which has a good POP3 implementation (I'm pretty well settled on tkrat at the moment though Mahogany shows promise). This allows me to set up folders in my mail program which correspond to the POP3 mailboxes, I can read my POP3 mail from anywhere and delete the unwanted messages but *leave* the ones that I want to see still when I'm somewhere else. Mutt as it stands simply can't handle this situation well. It's also more difficult (though quite possible) in mutt to set up different 'personalities'. My ideal would be a mailer which allows customisation of most settings on a per folder basis, some of the better MUAs are now moving towards this sort of approach (Eudora 4 Pro in Windows, Mahogany in X and Windows). Mutt can do this but it's not so 'personality' oriented. I'm not necessarily saying that mutt should change direction but I think better POP3 support should be considered. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Realname and EMail address ?
On Wed, Sep 08, 1999, Sebastian Helms wrote: Hello, I want to set my email address in the from: header to an address different from my system email, which is [EMAIL PROTECTED] For example, instead of "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" I'd like to set "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" for ALL outgoing emails. How can I do that ? I have not found anything about this in the docs. In ~/.muttrc add this line: my_hdr From: Sebastian Helms [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- |Chris Costello [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Is reading in the bathroom considered Multi-Tasking? `
Re: mutt and POP3
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 11:59:55AM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: Do you mean you would like mutt to use TOP x 0 to get just the headers in order to display the index, and to fetch a body (with RETR x, or, preferably, with TOP x , as fetchmail does) only when you ask to look at that particular message? I rather like the sound of that. It's something you couldn't do with fetchmail, and, if you don't store anything locally, you're hardly usurping the role of a MDA. Not quite, all the Unix MUA implementations of this that I've seen actually download all the messages to the MUA when you 'open' the folder but they're not deleted from the POP3 server. You can view all the messages as you would with a local folder. If you then delete any of the messages in the folder they are deleted from the POP3 server (usually when you close the folder). -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: POP3 support and 'multiple personalities'
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 01:35:15PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: If I receive an uninteresting message at one place and delete it, it still gets downloaded at the other place and I have to delete it again, which isn't ideal. Quite, my method overcomes that problem. I never leave much mail on the POP3 server, basically I most mail and just leave the odd message either to remond myself about something or because I want to save it in a folder on the other system where I read mail. Thus I haven't run into your problems with lots of mail remaining on the Demon POP3 server. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Install problems 1.0pre2-us
Hey all!
I've having problems installing mutt-1.0pre2-us
I currently am running mutt-1.0pre1 from RPM, and it works just fine.
Here are some other relavant packages..
ncurses3-1.9.9e-9
slang-1.2.2-4
egcs-1.1.2-12
egcs-c++-1.1.2-12
egcs-g77-1.1.2-18
egcs-objc-1.1.2-12
ncurses-4.2-19
However, I can't seem to get the darn thing to compile!
Attached is the output to ./configure and make...
I can give more information if needed, but I'm kind of in the dark
right now.
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creating cache ./config.cache
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Re: POP3 support and 'multiple personalities'
On Thu, Sep 09, 1999 at 06:10:10PM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: Chris Green [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: I have been using mutt on a number of different systems for quite a long while (since something like version 0.7x I think). It has served me well and has become steadily better. However I am now seriously looking at other MUAs and one of the main reasons is mutt's minimal POP3 support. If you like Mutt so much, why not look instead at using another POP3 implementation (fetchmail) while still using Mutt? That's how it's /supposed/ to work. Fetchmail is equally useless. Another user has reported *exactly* the same problem that I have. If you read your POP3 mailbox from more than one location fetchmail simply doesn't work. What I need is to be able to view my POP3 'folder' and delete individual messages. Most of the newer Unix/Linux MUAs do in fact work this way with POP3 folders, it makes them look just like ordinary local folders to the user. Using fetchmail with mutt can't do this at all. Mutt as it stands simply can't handle this [POP3] situation well. But why do you expect that it should? Do you expect sendmail to have a nice interface for reading your mail, when that isn't its job? Why should Mutt, which is meant to read/compose mails, have functionality to transfer them as well? POP3 is a mail /transport/ protocol. Mutt doesn't do mail transport (except for the existing, old, basic POP3 code which shouldn't be there either). The problem isn't with Mutt, it's with your monolithic ideas of how this should be set up. Get fetchmail, configure it, macro index G "!fetchmailenter", and be done with it. It *can't* do the same thing as MUAs that handle POP3 sensibly can as I have explained above. I would love to move over to IMAP4 as this would do exactly what I want but in the real world ISPs are not providing IMAP4 servers so I have to work with POP3. It's also more difficult (though quite possible) in mutt to set up different 'personalities'. My ideal would be a mailer which allows customisation of most settings on a per folder basis, some of the better MUAs are now moving towards this sort of approach (Eudora 4 Pro in Windows, Mahogany in X and Windows). Mutt can do this but it's not so 'personality' oriented. Some of the "better" MUAs? -boggle- Eudora is crap from a perspective of standards implementation and sensible MIME handling. I didn't say I *liked* Eudora, in fact I don't think I've found any Windows mail program that I can really get on with. Eudora is one of the better windows mailers, that doesn't necessarily make it good. Anyway... this is trivial in Mutt, and rather complete. Use folder-hooks and you can do literally anything you want when you enter any given folder. If you want it 'personality' oriented, try using comments and grouped commands in your .muttrc. Or sourcing different files, etc. The only real point of 'personalities' is organization, and IMO you can do this just as easily with the above. This is why I said it *can* be done in mutt but it's not handled in such a user friendly way. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Unix hacker at heart, I use procmail and mutt on this system here. I'm just looking for a better way of handling my multi-homed mail access, I may end up staying with mutt but it's not perfect for me by any means. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: POP3 support and 'multiple personalities'
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 01:23:00PM +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: Chris Green: What I need is to be able to view my POP3 'folder' and delete individual messages. Most of the newer Unix/Linux MUAs do in fact work this way with POP3 folders, it makes them look just like ordinary local folders to the user. Using fetchmail with mutt can't do this at all. Do these MUAs keep a list of UIDs between sessions? Do they keep a local copy of messages between sessions? No, it doesn't need to keep local copies I don't think, all it needs to know is how to identify messages which are new since the last time it connected to the server. While the (local) folder is open all messages in the folder are available for viewing, i.e. there is a local copy. When the folder is closed or synchronised with the POP3 server messages marked for deletion are actually deleted from the POP3 server, presumably this can simply be done by message number. The next time you connect *all* messages are downloaded again and any new messages are marked as such. I presume (again I don't actually know, not having delved into the code) that this could be done on a simple count basis and doesn't need UIDs. Is there a way of telling the MUA to delete a message locally (and not download it again) but leave it on the server to be picked up by a different machine later? No, I don't think you could do this. Effectively what you have in tkrat is what looks exactly like a local folder with new messages, old messages and deleteed messages. If you 'synchronise' the folder (i.e. tell the MUA to make its view of the folder and the server/file view of the messages the same) then the deleted messages are deleted from the POP3 server. Perhaps we should make an explicit proposal for what might be implemented in mutt ... I don't think we'll get it. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: POP3 support and 'multiple personalities'
On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 09:34:03PM +0200, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: On 10/Sep/1999, Chris Green wrote: What I need is to be able to view my POP3 'folder' and delete individual messages. Most of the newer Unix/Linux MUAs do in fact work this way with POP3 folders, it makes them look just like ordinary local folders to the user. Using fetchmail with mutt can't do this at all. If that's your only need, it's easy to do a little perl program to let you see the Subject, From or any other header from the messages in your ISP's server and dump to a file (or even mail) the rest of the messages. It wouldn't be very fast, and maybe you couldn't do it at all (you need libnet available), but it's possible. I began a similar thing to download news, and having a little Perl experience it's not very difficult. You could even use dialog to make it fancier. Well, yes, I'm sure all sorts of things like that are possible but they're hardly well integrated into the MUA are they! :-) A POP3 'folder' is just another mail folder from the user's point of view and wants to be handled as closely as possible like other folders. That's of course if you decide to handle POP3 as folders, I think maybe many people here don't want that. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: POP3 support and 'multiple personalities'
On Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 03:35:05AM -0500, Jeremy Blosser wrote: What I need is to be able to view my POP3 'folder' and delete individual messages. Most of the newer Unix/Linux MUAs do in fact work this way with POP3 folders, it makes them look just like ordinary local folders to the user. Using fetchmail with mutt can't do this at all. Well, it sounds like what you really want is to use POP as a mailbox format instead of a transportation protocol. I agree it would be cool if Mutt could do this, and I think it's proper, as it's not doing MDA work in that case... provided it doesn't violate any POP specifications, but I've no idea on that. I doubt it would. Yes, that's *exactly* what I want and it's what quite a few of the more recent Linux/Unix MUAs are doing. You can't make POP3 mailbox/folders look exactly the same as local folders and IMAP folders but you can get things close enough so that it's reasonably easy for the user to treat it much the same. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Mutt and IMAP
If it isn't a silly question how does mutt work with IMAP4? I have some folders set up on an IMAP4 server, how do I access them with mutt? Is there a simple way to give them names/aliases so they can be accessed like local folders? Having to enter the full address of the folder every time one wants to access it would be a real pain. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Mutt and IMAP
On Mon, Sep 13, 1999 at 07:43:58AM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
On Monday, 13 September 1999 at 11:55, Chris Green wrote:
If it isn't a silly question how does mutt work with IMAP4?
I have some folders set up on an IMAP4 server, how do I access them
with mutt? Is there a simple way to give them names/aliases so they
can be accessed like local folders? Having to enter the full address
of the folder every time one wants to access it would be a real pain.
Really all you can do is set the $folder variable to point to the root
of your IMAP folders:
set folder='{mailhost}Mail'
My IMAP folders don't have a 'root' as far as I know (well, as far as
I can see). They're just mailbox/folder names on an account I have at
mailandnews.com, they work fine with my IMAP4 aware MUA at work.
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IMAP folber names
Well I've worked out what I need to do to access my IMAP4 folders,
it's not very user friendly yet is it!
I think mutt needs some sort of local cache/memory of folder names as
typing the full folder name every time one accesses a folder just
isn't reasonable (e.g. {mailandnews.co.uk}inbox).
In addition mutt can't cope with IMAP folder names with spaces or is
there some quoting machanism I've missed?
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Re: Best 'unstable' version for IMAP and how to build it
On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 02:44:34PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ./prepare --enable-imap make make install I don't have autoconf or automake installed here so I'll need them before I can build using ./prepare. It's true that you need those tools in order to run the "prepare" script, but I have never installed them on my system, and I build the unstable version by simply running ./configure and make, same as I always have for Mutt. That's what I expected to be able to do but if you download the unstable snapshot there isn't a ./configure with it so you're stuffed! Where can I get a mutt 0.96.xx with a ./configure with it? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
IMAP4 facilities in latest development versions of mutt
Well I have finally got a recent version of mutt configured and built here. It's version 0.96.6i. How do I find out what all the 'clever' things I can now do with IMAP4 mailboxes are? I have a couple of initial observations:- 1 - It asks for my IMAP4 password again when I open an IMAP folder even though the password is in my .muttrc. Has the .muttrc format changed for this? 2 - When it asked for my password it was for [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mailandnews.co.uk which is not my user name at mailandnews.co.uk! :-) 3 - Why does it re-read the IMAP folder *every* time I do something? This makes it nearly unusable except when the internet is at its very best and fastest. It also reports that the folder has been externally modified every time I do something. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
IMAP folder listing
Well I worked out how to get an IMAP folder listing, however what I got back was a list of folders with each folder listed twice. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP4 facilities in latest development versions of mutt
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 01:11:17PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: 1 - It asks for my IMAP4 password again when I open an IMAP folder even though the password is in my .muttrc. Has the .muttrc format changed for this? I've found the answer to this, the IMAP4 server I'm using knows about CRAM keys so I need to set imap_cramkey instead. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Columns in folder list
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 07:49:44PM +0200, Jimmy Mäkelä wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 11:31:19AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: I think this would be an excellent improvement! The current 'folders' display is just a directory listing in a unix'ish format by default (is it customisable?), this provides lots of information which is Yes. See the section about folder_format in the manual. If you only wanted the folders number and name you would use 'set folder_format="%2C %f"' Aha, thanks, a great improvement! -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP folder listing
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 06:11:28PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: This came up a little bit ago here or on mutt-dev. I'm working on doing a nicer version of IMAP browsing. What's happening is you're using a server that allows folders to contain both messages and subfolders (Cyrus?) - so the folders appear twice. The one with a trailing delimiter is there so you can browse subfolders, and the one without is there so you can see its messages. What we'll probably do is have folders appear once with markers for whether they can contain subfolders and/or messages, and add a second key for selecting mailboxes instead of browsing subfolders if you can do both for a single mailbox... OK, thanks for the explanation, I must admit I hadn't noticed the trailing . on every other folder when I first looked. It's news to me that the IMAP4 server I'm using allows a hierarchy of folders, I must try it out! :-) -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Best 'unstable' version for IMAP and how to build it
On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 05:38:30PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what I expected to be able to do but if you download the unstable snapshot there isn't a ./configure with it so you're stuffed! I don't download the snapshot. At least, I don't think it's a snapshot. Where can I get a mutt 0.96.xx with a ./configure with it? ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/devel/mutt-0.96.6i.tar.gz ? Yes, that's where I have got to in the end! Phew! The snapshots don't have ./configure with them but the devel tarballs do, how confusing (well, to me anyway!). -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
How to move IMAP folders?
Is it possible to move IMAP4 folders using mutt? This is a fundamental need with any MUA using IMAP4 as the MUA may be the only way one has of interacting with the server. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Columns in folder list
On Wed, Sep 22, 1999 at 12:00:10PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Sep 21, 1999 at 07:49:44PM +0200, Jimmy Mäkelä wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 1999 at 11:31:19AM +0100, Chris Green wrote: I think this would be an excellent improvement! The current 'folders' display is just a directory listing in a unix'ish format by default (is it customisable?), this provides lots of information which is Yes. See the section about folder_format in the manual. If you only wanted the folders number and name you would use 'set folder_format="%2C %f"' Aha, thanks, a great improvement! But it's still only a single column so doesn't really help all that much, I still can't see more than 20 or so folder names on a screen. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: How to move IMAP folders?
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 04:30:48PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: On Wednesday, 22 September 1999 at 12:28, Chris Green wrote: Is it possible to move IMAP4 folders using mutt? This is a fundamental need with any MUA using IMAP4 as the MUA may be the only way one has of interacting with the server. What do you mean move? Rename? you can tag all messages and copy them to another mailbox. In the latest CVS this is quite fast, but in 96.6 it requires a download and upload of each message. There is no command to delete mailboxes yet. Yes, I suppose rename does much of what I want (I a Unix'ish person so it's mv to me!). Will moving meaages to a non-existent IMAP folder create the folder? Also, how does one specify a sub-folder, is it done using the . notation that appears on the folder list to indicate folders which can hold sub-folders? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: [OT] GUI PGP/MIME mailers?
On Thu, Oct 14, 1999 at 07:20:29AM +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: On [19991014 07:01], Jeremy Blosser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Sorry for the off topic question... can any of you recommend any GUI MUAs that support PGP/MIME instead of just old-style? I've got some people I'm moving from Windows to Linux, and this is one of the overriding needs for a MUA for them. XFMail? Balsa? Mahogany? Mahogany shows promise but is, in my opinion, still being developed so fast that it's not very stable yet. xfmail is OK (I almost started using it) but is using an old GUI library and shows no signs of having any active support any more. balsa seems a bit limited to me. You might also want to look at xcmail and the MUA I'm now moving to, tkrat. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: unable to use IMAP
On Fri, Oct 15, 1999 at 12:06:08PM +0530, Raju K V wrote: BTW, I notice that whenever I access the mailserver using IMAP, a mail Mail System Internal Data DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA gets created. Why? Yes, it's a pain in the *** in my opinion. Apparently it's created by the IMAP utility code. tkrat (GUI MUA I'm playing with) knows that the message is to be ignored and doesn't display it, however mutt does show it. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?
On Fri, Oct 22, 1999 at 11:45:39PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 23:44, Brendan Cully wrote: On Friday, 22 October 1999 at 21:05, Chris Green wrote: I'm about to get serious about using mutt with IMAP4, I gather that the 'unstable' 1.1 version is likely to have more IMAP functions and features available. Is there an easy way to find out what it can do compared with the 1.0 version? There's a README (and a BUGS) in the imap directory of the latest development versions. Or, I've just set up (5 minutes ago) a tiny web page (maybe it will grow) where I'll post news about Mutt's IMAP support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there. http://www.kublai.com/~brendan/mutt/imap.html Sorry about that - I'm worse with URLs than patches... Excellent, thanks very much, just what I needed. Get ready to receive all sorts of odd complaints and bug reports! :-) -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 09:42:21PM +0100, Chris Green wrote:
support. Currently you can find the README and BUGS files there.
http://www.kublai.com/~brendan/mutt/imap.html
Sorry about that - I'm worse with URLs than patches...
Excellent, thanks very much, just what I needed. Get ready to receive
all sorts of odd complaints and bug reports! :-)
Er, however
* Tab-completion of IMAP folder names
It works too, at my first try of using it.
* Folder browsing
How do I actually do this? If I enter the IMAP server name I just get
my inbox, I also get my inbox when I enter {mailandnews.co.uk}/, in
fact I seem to get the inbox whatever I do.
* Go-fast stripes
* Postponed-message support
* Server-side copy
What does this mean? Does it mean I can copy/move messages to another
IMAP folder on the server? If so, how?
* Fast sync
* Secure login (GSSAPI and CRAM-MD5)
Worked forst time with CRAM-MD5 for me, mutt was the first program to
tell me the server had this!
* More and better segfaults
Hey, I just got one of those! :-) I entered '{}' in response to the
'Chdir to:' prompt and mutt expired.
* Attach messages from IMAP folders
* Use an IMAP path as your Maildir (set folder='')
* Preserve message keywords
* Preserve deleted messages if you don't choose to expunge them
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Re: IMAP, how to find out about new features?
On Sat, Oct 23, 1999 at 11:52:41PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
On Saturday, 23 October 1999 at 22:19, Chris Green wrote:
* Folder browsing
How do I actually do this? If I enter the IMAP server name I just get
my inbox, I also get my inbox when I enter {mailandnews.co.uk}/, in
fact I seem to get the inbox whatever I do.
Maybe it's a dumb question, but have you created other folders on your
server?
Yes, definitely, I have a dozen or twenty folders on the server.
They're all at the same 'level' as the inbox if you see what I mean.
* Server-side copy
What does this mean? Does it mean I can copy/move messages to another
IMAP folder on the server? If so, how?
yes. There's no trick, it's just like regular copy only messages aren't
downloaded and reuploaded. Tag some messages and copy them. Mutt will
create a new folder for you if the destination doesn't already exist.
Note there's currently no way to delete folders in mutt. That would be a
trivial enhancement, actually...
OK, I'll try that, thanks. What I'd *really* like is a 'move' facility
as this is typically what I use the IMAP server for.
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IMAP and multiple servers/folders/etc.
Can mutt's IMAP facilities cope with using more than one IMAP account? I have two IMAP accounts on one IMAP server and I don't really see how I can handle this using mutt. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
IMAP - seeing folders on server
I'm somewhat confused by the way one is supposed to navigate
folders/directories on an IMAP server. The mutt version I'm running
here (0.96i) seems slightly different from the other version I'm
trying (1.1i) but both have now confused me thoroughly.
Is there any way to go straight to an IMAP folder directory as opposed
to opening a specific mailbox? If I just specify the IMAP server name
as "{mailandnews.co.uk}" I get the inbox.
There also seems some confusion (to me anyway) when I issue a 'c'
command followed by a '?' to show a folder list. Sometimes I get my
local folder list and sometimes I get the IMAP server folder list and
there seems little rhyme or reason as to which I get.
Finally the IMAP server I'm using shows all folders as both folders
containing mail and as folders containing folders, e.g. :-
- 1 IMAPAction
2 IMAPAction.
3 IMAPAnne
4 IMAPAnne.
[etc.]
If I open 'Action' I get the mail therein (as one would expect) but if
I open 'Action.' I get a folder list at the level containing 'Action.',
not the contents of 'Action.', is this a bug in the server or a bug in
mutt, or neither?
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The 'c' change-folder command
Re my last message about navigating on an IMAP server I find that I'm almost as confused when navigating my local Mail directory. I understand the the 'c' command allows me to open a mailbox, it will look in the default Mail directory if I prefix the mailbox name with a '+' sign. AHA! I have been playing while composing this message, I think I see what is going on. If I issue a change directory command to change to an IMAP folder then subsequent commands will move around the IMAP folders. However if I just open a *mailbox* on the IMAP server then subsequent commands will navigate my local Mail directory (if that was where I was before). This is possibly not quite how it should work is it? If I start up mutt and the first mailbox I open is on an IMAP server I would expect subsequent folder open commands and chdir commands to stay on the IMAP server. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Multiple accounts and 'personalities', mutt 'philosophy', thoughts etc.
As may be gathered from my recent messages on this list I'm playing at using mutt with some IMAP accounts I have. However I am also using mutt as my main 'local' mail program in three different places. Hence I am using mutt on my home machine (isbd.demon.co.uk), on this ISP login account (areti.co.uk) and at work (kbss.bt.co.uk). At each of these locations mutt works with the normal Unix/Linux mail spool etc., at home I use maildir, here and at work I use normal mailbox format. The major advantage of IMAP for me is that from any of these locations I can save and retrieve 'important' mail and keep it organised in folders which I can 'see' from wherever I happen to be logged on at the time. I actually have two IMAP accounts on the IMAP server, one for personal mail and one for business/company mail. Now comes the 'philosopy' bit, mutt really isn't aware of this sort of situation yet, it expects one 'set folder=somewhere' which says where your 'home' mail directory is. This just isn't realistic when using IMAP the way I do. Many MUAs are now taking on board the idea that one may have multiple mail accounts and personalities. I know it would be possible to go some way to accomodating this using mutt's macro and hook capabilities but I think maybe a more direct way of configuring this sort of thing should be thought about now that the IMAP facilities are becoming a significant part of mutt. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Multiple accounts and 'personalities', mutt 'philosophy', thoughts etc.
On Tue, Oct 26, 1999 at 10:35:50AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 1999-10-26 09:11:39 +0100, Chris Green wrote: Now comes the 'philosopy' bit, mutt really isn't aware of this sort of situation yet, it expects one 'set folder=somewhere' which says where your 'home' mail directory is. This just isn't realistic when using IMAP the way I do. Many MUAs are now taking on board the idea that one may have multiple mail accounts and personalities. I know it would be possible to go some way to accomodating this using mutt's macro and hook capabilities but I think maybe a more direct way of configuring this sort of thing should be thought about now that the IMAP facilities are becoming a significant part of mutt. Where's your problem with putting the "personality-specific" stuff in various muttrc files and sourcing them by pressing appropriate keys, or by using appropriate hooks? Maybe I don't have a problem with doing this, I'm fishing for ideas on how to approach the problem as well as saying this is going to become a more common situation. There are some things I think don't work too well with this approach though:- What heppens if I have, say, a local message or folder directory displayed and I press the key to switch my personality to a remote IMAP server? Also, it's nicer to be able to navigate from local to remote and back without having to have special commands. One approach to this is a hierarchy of virtual folders which one can navigate, each folder having a personality which indicates where it is stored and (maybe) user characteristics. Connected with the above point the 'key to switch personality' approach would make it difficult to save/copy messages from local to remote or vice versa. One of the major reasons for running with IMAP for me is that I can quickly copy an 'important' message from my local mail to a folder on the IMAP server. As I said I'm looking for ideas and ways to handle what I want to do with IMAP, this may suggest changes to mutt or it may simply mean that I find ways of doing what I want with mutt's existing facilities. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP - seeing folders on server
On Mon, Oct 25, 1999 at 04:10:40PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote:
On Monday, 25 October 1999 at 15:39, Chris Green wrote:
I'm somewhat confused by the way one is supposed to navigate
folders/directories on an IMAP server. The mutt version I'm running
here (0.96i) seems slightly different from the other version I'm
trying (1.1i) but both have now confused me thoroughly.
Is there any way to go straight to an IMAP folder directory as opposed
to opening a specific mailbox? If I just specify the IMAP server name
as "{mailandnews.co.uk}" I get the inbox.
Reading this and your other message I have an idea what is going on. Try
setting $folder to "{mailandnews.co.uk}" in your muttrc. Currently it's
defaulting to ~/Mail.
OK, yes, you're right. It really harks back to my problem of how to
handle multiple IMAP accounts, there's no really simple way of doing
it using mutt. However I suppose the 'mutt way' would be to use some
hooks and such to change the folder as I switch from using mutt
locally to using it on the remote IMAP server. Maybe just some macros
to change 'user profile' would do what I want.
2 IMAPAction.
3 IMAPAnne
4 IMAPAnne.
[etc.]
If I open 'Action' I get the mail therein (as one would expect) but if
I open 'Action.' I get a folder list at the level containing 'Action.',
not the contents of 'Action.', is this a bug in the server or a bug in
mutt, or neither?
Neither. It's a clunky interface resulting from the invalid assumption
that usually folders either contain messages or subfolders but not both.
Nice solutions have been proposed, but I haven't built them yet and
neither has anyone else. :(
OK, I just wondered if the IMAP server was doing strange things. It's
a bit odd anyway in that the IMAP server supports hierarchical folders
but the Web interface to it doesn't so one can only create and
navigate a hierarchy when using it remotely.
What I'm really after is a proper implementation of using IMAP in
'disconnected' mode, I've yet to find *any* MUA that can do this
well yet.
I'm currently trying to rethink the architecture and fix bugs. After a
bit of that, I may tackle the browser again...
Thanks for all the work on IMAP and for answering my (often silly)
questions.
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Re: Multiple accounts and 'personalities', mutt 'philosophy', thoughts etc.
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 02:00:58AM +0200, Roy-Magne Mo wrote: The major advantage of IMAP for me is that from any of these locations I can save and retrieve 'important' mail and keep it organised in folders which I can 'see' from wherever I happen to be logged on at the time. I actually have two IMAP accounts on the IMAP server, one for personal mail and one for business/company mail. Can't you just two folder with the same account, and sort the private mail into one folder and the sort the business mail into an other? This way you could folder-hooks to do what you wan't to achieve. But both would have the same E-Mail address, with two accounts I can have different E-Mail addresses for business and personal mail. Also I already have twenty or so folders on my 'personal' mail IMAP account and maybe ten or more on the business account. If I put all these folders on the same account I'd start running into name clashes and such (e.g. I have an 'Action' folder in both). I know I could use the folder hierarchy to separate them but the Web interface doesn't know about folder hierarchy (even though the underlying IMAP server does). There is also a 10Mb storage limit per account but no limit on the number of accounts I can set up. So, it makes much more sense for me to have more than one IMAP account. I have no experience with IMAP and Mutt, I download the mail from an IMAP server to localhost and uses Mutt locally instead. That's fine if you only look at your mail from one location, as I said the whole point of IMAP for me is its visibility from work, home and anywhere else. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Multiple accounts and 'personalities', mutt 'philosophy', thoughts etc.
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 11:00:11AM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 27 Oct 1999: But both would have the same E-Mail address, with two accounts I can have different E-Mail addresses for business and personal mail. With any modern MTA, it should be trivial to have two email addresses delivering to the same email account, and also to run some kind of filtering afterward so that the mails get delivered to separate folders according to which address they were sent, or some other criteria (admittedly filtering is not an MTA job, but starting a mail filter is). The IMAP server I use is at mailandnews.co.uk, it's a free service to anyone who fancies opening an account there. The chances of getting them to set up two 'virtual' addresses to deliver mail to the same IMAP account are, I suspect, just about nil. If I could find a 'normal' ISP who provided a good IMAP service with the sort of support you are suggesting then I would go for it but I suspect there is no such animal. Also I already have twenty or so folders on my 'personal' mail IMAP account and maybe ten or more on the business account. If I put all these folders on the same account I'd start running into name clashes and such (e.g. I have an 'Action' folder in both). These too could be solved by having "Work-Action" and "Home-Action" (or whatever) as names, it would be strange if these folders couldn't be renamed. Yes, I could do that I agree, but it spoils the clean interface. :-) I know I could use the folder hierarchy to separate them but the Web interface doesn't know about folder hierarchy (even though the underlying IMAP server does). Then that's a problem (lack of feature) with the web application... Absolutely, but as it's a free service and just about the *only* IMAP server I could find that provides what I need I'm stuck with it. If anyone can suggest other publicly available (not necessarily free, but not a silly price) IMAP servers then please tell me. I don't have the luxury of a permanently connected commercial system of my own (or where I work). There is also a 10Mb storage limit per account but no limit on the number of accounts I can set up. That's just silly, why should it be possible to have 2 * 10MB limits but not 1 * 20MB? *shrug* That's what I thought, I asked them about it and they said I could open as many accounts as I liked with 10Mb allocation each. Accounts which are dormant for 6 months will be closed. So, it makes much more sense for me to have more than one IMAP account. Yes, we all work with the tools we have and even if there might be better ways of doing things, they might not always be available. Exactly! :-) That's fine if you only look at your mail from one location, as I said the whole point of IMAP for me is its visibility from work, home and anywhere else. Even though I've argued above that the limitations you have to work are somewhat silly, I do think you have a good point. It's entirely possible that a person has more than one IMAP server for mail, and making provisions for this in Mutt is a good idea. Then again, someone has to code support for that. As is typical with open source projects, if you want a feature, submit a patch for it. Otherwise, one shouldn't count on anything happening, even if opinions and suggestions are usually always welcome. Absolutely, I'm not criticising, I'm just trying to add more input to suggest directions for mutt to develop. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Please use the 'L' command to send mail
On Wed, Oct 27, 1999 at 01:30:27PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: You're using the unstable branch. That means that, in order to get mail-followup-to set, you have to add the list to the list of subscribed lists. See muttrc (5). Is this something in addition to the 'lists' command in my .muttrc? The mutt list is already in my muttrc 'lists'. Oops, yes I've found it, thanks! This message should have the 'Mail-followup-to:', but it *still* hasn't and I do have mutt in the 'subscribe' list in my .muttrc file. So what now? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Floating point exception - gdb
On Thu, Oct 28, 1999, Juergen Leising wrote: #0 0x806b7ab in menu_check_recenter (menu=0x8e20fe8) at menu.c:287 287 menu-top += menu-pagelen * ((menu-current - menu-top) / menu-pagelen); Try these: print menu print menu-pagelen print menu-current print menu-top print menu-pagelen -- |Chris Costello [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Machine independent code isn't. `--
Re: Default editor ??
On Sun, Nov 14, 1999, Niels Rasmussen wrote: Is that really so simple ??? I am newbie so please correct me if I am wrong ! I am using bash so I presume that the 1 line should be: ... I should name the script ... Move the script to somewhere in my path like ... and make it executable with Is this correct ?? Yes, although you could always just put it in ~/bin, and add ~/bin to your path. I use that instead. -- |Chris Costello [EMAIL PROTECTED] |State-of-the-art: What we could do with enough money. `-
Problem running mutt in rxvt terminal window
I have a minor display problem when running mutt in an rxvt window that doesn't occur when running in a (Solaris) xterm window. It's basically a problem of reverse video highlighting not always getting turned off as it should. The most obvious occurrence is when you start mutt the bottom *two* lines of the screen are in reverse video instead of just the status line. I have tried changing the TERM variable (usually xterm, I've tried vt100 and vt102) with no effect and I've tried building mutt with different compilers to no effect. The problem occurs with both version 1.1 and with 1.1.1 on two different Solaris 2.6 systems. Strangely when I telnet into a remote Linux system from an rxvt terminal window and then run mutt (1.0) on the Linux system I *don't* get the problem. Does anyone have any ideas? Mutt reports as follows:- Mutt 1.1.1i (1999-11-08) Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details. System: SunOS 5.6 Compile options: -DOMAIN -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK +USE_IMAP -USE_GSS +USE_POP +HAVE_REGCOMP -USE_GNU_REGEX +HAVE_COLOR -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS SENDMAIL="/usr/lib/sendmail" MAILPATH="/var/mail" SHAREDIR="/usr2/chris/share/mutt" SYSCONFDIR="/usr2/chris/etc" -ISPELL To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Compile problem with S-Lang
While trying to fathom out my problem in an rxvt I have been trying to compile with S-Lang but I get the following error druing compilation:- cc -DSHAREDIR=\"/usr2/chris/share/mutt\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/usr2/chris/etc\" -DBINDIR=\"/usr2/chris/bin\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I. -I/usr2/chris/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/intl -g -c curs_lib.c "curs_lib.c", line 258: syntax error before or at: SLcurses_wattrset cc: acomp failed for curs_lib.c I have slang-1.3.10 installed and it works OK for building slrn. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
IMAP folders - what commands are available using mutt 1.1.1
I am using the 1.1.1 development version of mutt (not here, this is 1.0) and want to know what I can do to IMAP folders with it, if anything! For example:- Can I create an IMAP folder (as opposed to a mail file)? Can I delete an IMAP folder or mailbox Can I move an IMAP folder (again, as opposed to mailbox)? -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP folders - what commands are available using mutt 1.1.1
On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 02:49:20PM -0500, Brendan Cully wrote: On Tuesday, 16 November 1999 at 16:13, Chris Green wrote: I am using the 1.1.1 development version of mutt (not here, this is 1.0) and want to know what I can do to IMAP folders with it, if anything! For example:- Can I create an IMAP folder (as opposed to a mail file)? no Can I delete an IMAP folder or mailbox no Can I move an IMAP folder (again, as opposed to mailbox)? no Oh dear! :-( I've started implementing create/delete, but it's not going to be aware of whether it can contain subfolders or messages right away. On some servers you probably get that for free by creating something like "Friends/" instead of "Friends", where "Friends/" contains subfolders and "Friends" contains messages. Yes, on the IMAP server I use at present the folders have a trailing '.' to differentiate them from the mailboxes. Are these actually separate entities on the IMAP server? It's rather confusing as the server I use doesn't itself actually acknowledge that hierarchical folders are possible but you can create them. I don't actually know whether MOVE is part of the IMAP RFC or not. You may have to tag all messages and copy them into a new folder for the forseeable future. Note that's not as slow as it sounds - it's all done server-side. That doesn't sound too difficult. The problem I'm facing at the moment is that the IMAP server (a free Web service) doesn't itself allow creation of a folder hierarchy using the Web interface and I can't create folders with mutt. Thus I need to use another mail program simply to create a folder hierarchy. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: [OT] dingus clicking in rxvt?
On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 02:04:22PM -0600, Timothy Ball wrote: Where does one get the patches to make dingus clicking work in rxvt? What the is "dingus clicking"? I use rxvt so it *might* be useful to me! :-) -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: IMAP folders - what commands are available using mutt 1.1.1
On Tue, Nov 16, 1999 at 03:26:40PM -0500, Brendan Cully wrote: That doesn't sound too difficult. The problem I'm facing at the moment is that the IMAP server (a free Web service) doesn't itself allow creation of a folder hierarchy using the Web interface and I can't create folders with mutt. Thus I need to use another mail program simply to create a folder hierarchy. Note mutt does have a back door for creating mailboxes - save a message to a path that doesn't exist, and mutt will offer to create it for you. ie pick a random mailbox and copy a message to "=Newfolder/Newmx" and mutt should create it for you. Ah, thanks! Very useful. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Changing IMAP username on same IMAP server
I have two IMAP accounts on the same IMAP4 server, how can I tell mutt to change from one to the other? If I just source a file which does a 'set imap_user=new user name' mutt doesn't seem to know anything has changed. The IMAP server is the same so the $folder and $spoolfile names are unchanged (so is the password for that matter!). -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
1.1.1 build problems
I am trying to compile mutt 1.1.1 with S-Lang on Solaris 2.6. All goes well until compiling curs_lib.c when I get an error:- gcc -DSHAREDIR=\"/usr2/chris/share/mutt\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/usr2/chris/etc\" -DBINDIR=\"/usr2/chris/bin\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I. -I/usr2/chris/include -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/imap -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/intl -Wall -pedantic -g -O2 -c curs_lib.c curs_lib.c: In function `mutt_endwin': curs_lib.c:258: parse error before `SLcurses_wattrset' *** Error code 1 I have S-Lang 1.3.10 installed and slrn compiles with that quite happily, I can also compile mutt without S-Lang OK. One other (very minor) build problem is that 'make distclean' removes sgml2html and you have to get it back from the tarball to build successfully. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: 1.1.1 build problems
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 03:21:19PM +, Lars Hecking wrote: Oops again, I mis-remembered the error, it removes manual.sgml.tail or something that it shouldn't, the error produced is as follows:- test -f manual.html || make manual.html || cp /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/manual*.html ./ ( sed -e "s/@VERSION@/`cat /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/VERSION`/" manual.sgml.head ;\ gcc -E -I. -I/usr2/chris/include -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1 -DSHAREDIR=\"/usr2/chris/share/mutt\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\"\" -DBINDIR=\"/usr2/chris/bin\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/imap -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/intl -D_MAKEDOC -C /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/init.h | ../makedoc -s ) | \ cat - /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/manual.sgml.tail manual.sgml sh: manual.sgml: cannot create Must be something else, then. make distclean in docs removes only clean: rm -f *~ *.html *.orig *.rej stamp-doc-sgml stamp-doc-man distclean: clean rm -f Makefile Maybe you need to "make makedoc" first. Try to find out by executing the commands above by hand (your make output). Well I just tried it all again and *this* time I got the error I remembered. I did a 'make distclean', followed by './configure' and then a 'make'. The result is:- Making all in doc test -f manual.html || make manual.html || cp /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/manual*.html ./ ( sed -e "s/@VERSION@/`cat /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/VERSION`/" manual.sgml.head ;\ /proj/apps/SUNWspro/bin/CC -E -I. -I/usr/local/include -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1 -DSHAREDIR=\"/usr/local/share/mutt\" -DSYSCONFDIR=\"\" -DBINDIR=\"/usr/local/bin\" -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -I/usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/intl -D_MAKEDOC -C /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/init.h | ../makedoc -s ) | \ cat - /usr2/chris/mutt-1.1.1/doc/manual.sgml.tail manual.sgml CC: Warning: Option -C passed to ld, if ld is invoked, ignored otherwise touch stamp-doc-sgml sgml2html manual sh: sgml2html: not found As I said, it's not a big problem as all one has to do to fix it is to tar from the original distribution again. -- Chris Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.isbd.co.uk/
Re: Shortcut/alias for mailbox/folder name - add to wishlist?
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 02:39:01PM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote:
Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Fri, 19 Nov 1999:
So, does mutt already have some way of creating an easy to use alias
for a long mailbox name that can be used with the 'c', 's' and 'C'
commands (and no doubt others)?
No, not yet anyway.
Pity! :-)
If not then I would like to add this
to the wishlist please.
How about macro-ing all the common IMAP folders?
This is possible but it's not particularly flexible as I'd have to
edit the .muttrc file every time I created a new folder.
The essential problem when moving around a number of folders is that
one may not always remember the names exactly (which is where a GUI
helps!).
What I think is needed (or at least what I need) is:-
1 - An easy way to get to read mail in IMAP folders. This could be
done fairly easily with a macro. The macro could either go direct
to the folder or could get a listing by doing a 'c' command (e.g.
'c{mailandnews.co.uk}') and then one can select the folder to look
at quite easily.
2 - An easy way to save/copy mail to an IMAP folder without having to
type in the whole server and folder name. For frequently used
IMAP folders this could be a macro doing the whole thing (e.g.
's{mailandnews.co.uk}friends/anne' but what about the case where I
want to save a message and can't remember the exact name of the
folder? What one wants is a way to get to a folder list after
executing the 's' or 'C' command. For example if it was possible
to enter 's{mailandnews.co.uk}?' to get a list of folders to save
to.
However an easy way to alias {mailandnews.co.uk} to something shorter
for use in commands would also help a lot in the above scenarios and
would be a more generally useful solution I think.
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Re: macro problem - have I misunderstood something?
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 11:00:39AM -0500, Brendan Cully wrote:
Is it not possible to send any/all keys with a macro, does it only
work for : commands?
I don't know much about the macro facilities, but I think the problem
is you used the "generic" map. You might want to try binding your key
explicitly to the "index" and/or "pager" maps. ie try something like:
macro index \e1 c{mailandnews.co.uk}
and see what you get. Note there is no CR, so you are given an
opportunity to type out the rest of the path.
That's it, you're right! :-)
I think this is a bug, shouldn't :-
macro generic \e1 "c{mailandnews.co.uk}"
do the same as :-
macro index \e1 "c{mailandnews.co.uk}"
Thanks for the help anyway, now I can stop typing {mailandnews.co.uk}
out in full every time! :-)
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Re: Changing IMAP username on same IMAP server
On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 01:58:45PM +0200, Tommi Komulainen wrote:
On Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 08:54:22AM +, Chris Green wrote:
Thanks for the information about mailandnews. I can see your point.
This patch would thus log out and log back in if the imap_user is
changed?
Actually, no. Previously a connection to a server was identified from
the address and the port number. If a connection to the same address
and port already existed, it was used, otherwise mutt would login.
The username was never checked, the patch just includes the username
in the decision whether mutt needs to login or not.
OK, thanks for the clarification.
You can specify a username in the folder path, eg. {username@host}Mail/box,
and mutt will know how to handle it. You can also use $imap_user to change
the username, if one isn't given in the folder path, before you open that
folder.
My username is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (yes, it really is!), would
mutt cope with {[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mailandnews.co.uk}inbox ?
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Re: mail ( nn) column
On Fri, Nov 26, 1999, Subba Rao wrote: When I look at the mutt index, many are in the range of 0-200. How is this number derived? Number of lines in the message. -- |Chris Costello [EMAIL PROTECTED] |To be, or not to be, those are the parameters. `--
macros - is there any logic about when they work or not?
I have been trying to add a number of macros to mutt and have been
having all sorts of trouble. Basically the problem is that not all
macro definitions work in all menus, in particular:-
Very few macro definitions that I have tried work in the
'generic' menu. I have tried both single and two character macros
and only one or two combinations seem to work at all.
Only some macros work in the other menus, I have been testing
mostly in the 'index' menu. Mostly the macros that don't work
seem to be single character ones, the two character macros I
have tried do seem to work in the index menu.
So, for example, the following macros in my .muttrc file *don't*
work (though they all appear OK on the help screen):-
macro generic ,s "s{mailandnews.co.uk}"
macro generic ,c "c{mailandnews.co.uk}"
macro generic ^X ":source ~/.mutt/"
macro index ^X ":source ~/.mutt/"
But the following ones do work:-
macro generic \\b ":source ~/.mutt/muttrc\r"
macro generic \\d ":source ~/.mutt/demon\r"
macro generic \\c ":source ~/.mutt/cgreen\r"
macro generic \\i ":source ~/.mutt/isbd\r"
macro index ,s "s{mailandnews.co.uk}"
macro index ,c "c{mailandnews.co.uk}"
This all seems a bit unsatisfactory and vague to me, is there any way
to decide whether a particular macro will work or not other than
just trying it?
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