Re: Professionnel mails not threaded
Hello, Le 19-08-2023, à 17:52:26 +0200, Francesco Ariis a écrit : Hello Steve, Il 19 agosto 2023 alle 17:31 steve ha scritto: I suspect my company's emails don't respect RFC xy, but I would expect mutt to detect when a email is a reply to an email and not a new email, and thus thread it to the original email. Check the docs for `strict_threads` and `sort_re` and let us know if that helps. `strict_threads` in particular should be `no` by default. And it wasn't in my config (don't ask me why). Defining to no helped. Thanks ! s.
Professionnel mails not threaded
Hi, When my colleagues reply to one of my emails, the are never linked to my original email. Mutt just list them as if they were new, like this: - email1 from me - other emails - reply to email1 I would expect to have - email1 from me -> reply to my email1 - other emails I suspect my company's emails don't respect RFC xy, but I would expect mutt to detect when a email is a reply to an email and not a new email, and thus thread it to the original email. (Not sure I'm very clear, English is not my mother tongue) So I'm wondering if I'm doing something wrong with mutt, or is it on my company's side that there's something that could be improved. Thank you. steve
[SOLVED] Re: filter on date
Brilliant! Problem solved. Thanks to every one who helped me. ~ steve ~ Le 02-06-2023, à 08:33:25 -0500, Tim Chase a écrit : On 2023-06-02 14:06, steve wrote: >You could filter on the Date: header with a regex. > ~h'Date:.* [1] [A-Z]' Now how could I invert this in order to delete all other messages? I'd likely tag *all* messages: shift+t . enter then control+t to untag the pattern above control+t ~h'Date:.* [1] [A-Z]' enter which should leave the unwanted messages tagged, letting you use semicolon d -tkc
Re: filter on date
Le 02-06-2023, à 17:33:24 +0530, Bhaskar Chowdhury a écrit : How could I do? How about running it on every month end, so you don't have to run it like for whole year That could also be an approach. (that was you were trying, right?) Right. I have so many files that I just wanted to make some room now. I can live with a couple of months of files also (did that for many years). If you want to keep only the 1st date pdf and remove rest of days in month pdfs then you can simply do so , by doing ~d02/month/year-30/month/year ...likewise for the month having 31 days too. Yes, obvious when I think about it. But I didn't want to do that for every months of every year. So solution by Ofer is clearly very handy. You can easily create an macro to bind it to a key to invoke that,so you don't have to remember the syntax. Sure. Not sure, if it solve your owes. Or probably I misread your need. No you didn't, thank you very much. Best, s.
Re: filter on date
Le 02-06-2023, à 07:57:27 -0400, Ofer Inbar a écrit : You could filter on the Date: header with a regex. ~h'Date:.* [1] [A-Z]' Blinking fast, thanks ! Now how could I invert this in order to delete all other messages? s.
filter on date
Hi, I receive every day pdf reports. I have now more than 1800 mails, which takes a lot of space. Every first day of the month, the report is a summary of the month, and I would like to only keep those one. I know how to filter mail using ~d. But that's only for one specific day. I tried something like ~d 1/*/* but got 'invalid month */*' Also tried ~d 1/[1-12]/2022 but got 'invalid month [1-12]/2022' How could I do? Thanks, s.
Re: unset email address for reply
Dear Sander, Thank you for your reply. I have followed your advice and added folder-hook . unmy_hdr From: in all and every files containing a folder-hook. As of today, it seems that that solved the problem. Thank you! Have a nice day, steve Le 05-05-2023, à 16:40:34 +0200, Sander Smeenk via Mutt-users a écrit : Quoting steve (dl...@bluewin.ch): This only happens for particular folders, not all. So this probably is a folder-hook somewhere. You'd start by grep'ing for 'hook' or 'my_hdr From' in your configs. I have a set of folder-hooks, but the first one is always: | folder-hook . unmy_hdr From: And following that are specific folder hooks e.g.: | folder-hook .lists.mutt-users my_hdr From: Sander Smeenk The "." matches any folder i think, so it always unsets the header, unless a specific match is found and it sets the header again. I believe this is how it should work. ;) HTH, -Sndr. -- | [ $[$RANDOM % 6] = 0 ] && rm -rf ~ || echo "You win!" | 4096R/20CC6CD2 - 6D40 1A20 B9AA 87D4 84C7 FBD6 F3A9 9442 20CC 6CD2
unset email address for reply
Hi, (sorry for the rather bad subject text, it only shows my clumsy knowledge of mutt) I'm using mutt 2.2.9 on Debian bookworm. Sometimes, when I reply to a message, the To field shows an email address taken from another folder where I have a hook. I don't want this and I don't understand where it is coming from. Here is the path: 1) I go in folder A where I read a message 2) I hit 'c' to go in folder B 3) I read a message and hit 'r' to reply 4) I get correct recipient from folder B and also recipient from folder A which I don't want This only happens for particular folders, not all. I would like that when I go in folder B, all information from folder A is forgotten so that when I reply in folder B, only recipient for folder B is taken into account as well as correct From email address. I have broken my configuration in many little files where I can fine-tune the settings. But this was done years ago and I don't remember everything now. I guess there is an active hook somewhere that brings along the faulty setting. So my question is what should I look for? I have a default "global" file that is sourced when going in a particular folder, and it contains: # Reset any headers that may have been set in other folder-hooks unmy_hdr From: unmy_hdr To: unmy_hdr Reply-To: #unmy_hdr Fcc: #unmy_hdr Return-Receipt-To: #unmy_hdr Organization: #unmy_hdr X-URL: which I would think would do the job, but it doesn't. I also have several reply-hook, message-hook, etc, set. Please help me debug this issue, it's driving me nuts. Thanks you. s.
Re: sample muttrc file for AOL email...
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 05:26:06AM -0500 or thereabouts, Lester Rees wrote: >No, Gmail no longer allows Mutt to be used for it. Google considers it >to be a "less secure app." Hence, they do not allow Mutt to be used >with it. I have tried and have failed since Google made that change to >Gmail. Well that is strange as this email is using mutt and a Google Workspace account and I'm guessing you're getting it fine (yes you do need an app password). ignore * unignore From: unignore To: unignore Reply-To: unignore Mail-Followup-To: unignore Subject: unignore Date: unignore Organization: unignore Newsgroups: unignore CC: unignore BCC: unignore Message-ID: unignore X-Mailer: unignore User-Agent: unignore X-Junked-Because: unignore X-SpamProbe: set realname = "Steve Karmeinsky" set from = "st...@gbnet.net" #set use_from = yes set envelope_from = yes set smtp_url = "smtp://st...@gbnet.net@smtp.gmail.com:587/" set smtp_pass="thisisverysecret" set imap_user = st...@gbnet.net set imap_pass="thisisverysecret" set imap_list_subscribed=yes set folder = "imaps://imap.gmail.com:993" set spoolfile = "+INBOX" set postponed = "+[Gmail]/Drafts" set trash = "=[Gmail]/Bin" #set trash = "+[Gmail]/Trash" #set trash = "+Trash" set ssl_force_tls = yes set ssl_starttls = yes set smtp_authenticators = "login" #set record="+[Gmail]/Sent Mail" set record="" # Activate caching, as it can greatly improve speed set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers" set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies" set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certificates set mail_check = 30 set move = no set imap_keepalive = 900 Seems to work for me Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.net
Re: searching across folders using mutt
Le 30-05-2022, à 14:49:53 -0500, Ranjan Maitra a écrit : Can mairix and notmuch also search within attachments? I don't know but after a quick look, it seems that those tools only index text files.
Re: searching across folders using mutt
Hi Greg, Le dimanche 29 mai 2022 à 23:31, Greg Marks a écrit : Is there a solution for searching across folders for those of us whose e-mail is stored in mbox rather than maildir format? I guess mairix can do that. See https://gitlab.com/muttmua/mutt/-/wikis/UseCases/SearchingMail
Re: searching across folders using mutt
Hi Ranjan, notmuch will do exactly that. see https://notmuchmail.org/mutttips/ best, steve Le 29-05-2022, à 10:40:27 -0500, Ranjan Maitra a écrit : Dear friends, I have now been using mutt for about 20 months or so, having graduated from sylpheed, and life is generally well, but for one issue, and that is searching across folders. So, suppose I know that I have an email in some folder with "stuff" in the subject line. Now, I know how to search this (quite readily) in a folder. But when I do not know the folder it is stored in, so far, it has been simply about guessing the right folders. Sometimes I get lucky, and sometimes I put it away, and occasionally, I do get lucky on a timed-release format, but I was wondering if I can get rid of this reliance on luck, as both my years and size of folders go up. Is there an easy way to do this in mutt? I would like to stick to simple tools (and stay in mutt) if possible. My email is pulled in by fetchmail from a POP3 server (gmx) and processed by procmail into folders. I do not use IMAP. I thought I would put this in in case it was relevant. Many thanks again for your suggestions, and best wishes, Ranjan
Re: mutt 2.2.0 released
On Sun, Feb 13, 2022 at 10:41:03AM +1100 or thereabouts, raf wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 01:41:14PM -0800, "Kevin J. McCarthy" > wrote: > > Hello Mutt Users, > > I'm pleased to announce the release of version 2.2.0. [snip] > Thanks so much for all you do. > It's sad to hear that you'll have > less time and energy for mutt now. > I hope all will be well for you. I would also like to convey thanks for all the hard work Kevin has put in over the years for a product I could not live without and use daily. I hope whatever Kevin is working on is a fruitful as mutt has been. Thanks Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.net
Re: Using Gmail IMAP with Mutt
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 07:21:30PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jens John wrote: > On Thu, 2 Sep 2021, at 19:12, David J. J. Ring, Jr. wrote: > > What does gmail really want? Gmail or GMail or something different? > > Thanks in advance for your replies and help. I'm sorry I'm confused > > but it is confusing. > Accidentally, I think they changed something because by mbsync config broke > some time in August or July. > I am now using "[Gmail]/All mail" & "[Gmail]/Sent Mail" (sic: yes, mail > lowercased and Mail uppercased for the other folder. Previously, I had been > using "[Gmail]/All Mail" (sic) (did no longer work). > If in doubt, I would recommend using Thunderbird or another IMAP tool to > check which folders a vanilla gmail account presents. Gmail is only a legacy > account for me so I'm not exactly keeping up to date with the service. In .muttrc I have set realname = "Steve Karmeinsky" set from = "st...@gbnet.net" #set use_from = yes set envelope_from = yes set smtp_url = "smtp://st...@gbnet.net@smtp.gmail.com:587/" set imap_user = st...@gbnet.net set imap_list_subscribed=yes set folder = "imaps://imap.gmail.com:993" set spoolfile = "+INBOX" set postponed = "+[Gmail]/Drafts" set trash = "=[Gmail]/Bin" set ssl_force_tls = yes set ssl_starttls = yes set smtp_authenticators = "login" set record="" # Activate caching, as it can greatly improve speed set header_cache = "~/.mutt/cache/headers" set message_cachedir = "~/.mutt/cache/bodies" set certificate_file=~/.mutt/certificates Which works for me Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.net
Re: Adding text to subject when calling group
Hello, Nobody for this one? I found that I could modify the subject with a folder-hook but that's only half of the solution since it doesn't take care of the group alias part. Any help would be highly appreciated. Steve Le 02-06-2021, à 08:54:50 +0200, steve a écrit : Hi, In the alias file, I defined several users and with them defined a group 'groupX'. When creating a new message with 'm' and calling 'groupX', I would like to add a fixed text to the subject line (only when the alias 'groupX' is called'). How could I do that? I failed to find that particular usecase on the Net. Thanks Steve
Adding text to subject when calling group
Hi, In the alias file, I defined several users and with them defined a group 'groupX'. When creating a new message with 'm' and calling 'groupX', I would like to add a fixed text to the subject line (only when the alias 'groupX' is called'). How could I do that? I failed to find that particular usecase on the Net. Thanks Steve
signature and alternates
This is my main email, but I have several alternates set-up. In .muttrc I have set signature=~/.signature set realname = "Steve Karmeinsky" set from = "st...@gbnet.net" my_hdr X-Organisation: NetTek Ltd I also have send-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' send-hook . 'unmy_hdr X-Organisation:' send-hook . 'unmy_hdr Reply-to:' and then send-hooks with the overrides. The only thing not working properly is setting the signature back to normal after replying to an alternate. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.net
Re: Gmail - no authenticators available
On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 10:18:08PM +0100 or thereabouts, Øyvind A. Holm wrote: > On 2021-02-09 12:31:31, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 09, 2021 at 01:10:17PM -0500, Rob Pyott wrote: > > > Still getting “no authenticators available” with Gmail. I’ve snip set realname = "Steve Karmeinsky" set from = "st...@gbnet.net" #set use_from = yes set envelope_from = yes set smtp_url = "smtp://st...@gbnet.net@smtp.gmail.com:587/" set smtp_pass="Secret" set imap_user = st...@gbnet.net set imap_pass="Secret" set imap_list_subscribed=yes set folder = "imaps://imap.gmail.com:993" set spoolfile = "+INBOX" set postponed = "+[Gmail]/Drafts" set trash = "=[Gmail]/Bin" set ssl_force_tls = yes set ssl_starttls = yes set smtp_authenticators = "login" set record="" Works for me, using GSuite app password Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.net
Re: GMail SMTP: no authenticators available?
On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 08:26:11PM -0800 or thereabouts, Will Yardley wrote: > On Wed, Jan 20, 2021 at 04:22:04PM -1000, Baron Fujimoto wrote: > > The following in my muttrc was used successfully util this problem began: > > set smtp_url = smtp://u...@example.org@smtp.gmail.com > Do you have smtp_authenticators (unset by default) set? > set smtp_url = "smtps://lu...@example.com@smtp.gmail.com" > set smtp_authenticators = 'gssapi:login' > Are you using an "app password"? Typically, you'll need to (at least I > did) > https://support.google.com/mail/answer/185833?hl=en-GB I think that's much more likely the issue, though it may need a GSuite domain administrator to enable the feature for users and then the user can set one. Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com
Re: conditional index_format
Hi, Thanks for your answer. Le 10-06-2020, à 09:58:05 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy a écrit : On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 04:11:58PM +0200, steve wrote: When forwarding a message to recipient R, that message is listed as the author (me) since I defined $index_format with the %n variable. This is fine when I create a message or reply to a message, but it would be more convenient to see the recipient's name when I forward a message. So is it possible to have $index_format reflect this? Starting in Mutt 1.11.0, there is index-format-hook and the %@name@ expando. See <http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/#index-format-hook> Unfortunately, I'm using mutt version 1.10.1 on Debian Buster. So I'll have to wait to upgrade to Bullseye to take advantage of this new feature. Best Steve
conditional index_format
Hi, When forwarding a message to recipient R, that message is listed as the author (me) since I defined $index_format with the %n variable. This is fine when I create a message or reply to a message, but it would be more convenient to see the recipient's name when I forward a message. So is it possible to have $index_format reflect this? More precisely, I would like to have set index_format="%4C %Z %4c %d%-22.27n %2X %s" when creating and reply to R and set index_format="%4C %Z %4c %d%-22.27t %2X %s" when forwarding to R. Not sure I'm clear but that's the idea. Many thanks. Steve
Re: [Mutt] Going GUI...er
Works like a charm. Thanks Mihai. Steve Le 04-04-2020, à 22:30:05 +0200, Mihai Lazarescu a écrit : On Saturday, April 04, 2020 at 19:18:42 +0200, steve wrote: Le 04-04-2020, à 09:41:59 +0200, Vegard Svanberg a écrit : However, I'm increasingly finding myself having to resort to various tricks to deal with HTML only emails (with picture attachments), calendar invites, and other oddities and awkward stuff people send. I can display images, read pdf's, etc… but one thing I never managed to do is open an html file containing images. I mean, I can send the html part to firefox but the images don't follow. How do you guys cope with that? I'm using Christian Ebert's muttils from http://www.blacktrash.org/hg/muttils/ with a macro: macro pager,index,attach M "viewhtmlmsg" and viewhtmlmsg being a Python script (maybe created by muttils): #!/usr/bin/python2 # $Id$ from muttils import viewhtmlmsgcommand viewhtmlmsgcommand.run() Best, Mihai
Re: Going GUI...er
Hi, Le 04-04-2020, à 09:41:59 +0200, Vegard Svanberg a écrit : Hi, I love Mutt. Me too. However, I'm increasingly finding myself having to resort to various tricks to deal with HTML only emails (with picture attachments), calendar invites, and other oddities and awkward stuff people send. I can display images, read pdf's, etc… but one thing I never managed to do is open an html file containing images. I mean, I can send the html part to firefox but the images don't follow. How do you guys cope with that? Thx
GSuite
Might be useful for some folk using GSuite. I was struggling to get deleted emails actually deleted (they had various tags applied by GSuite/Gmail and wouldn't delete, so using something Mail.app on Mac you'd still see them - under Important). Anyway the following solved things set spoolfile = "+INBOX" set postponed = "+[Gmail]/Drafts" set trash = "=[Gmail]/Bin" and seems to be expected bahaviour (at least it works for me) Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (650) 423 1390 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Hi There, Just an update on this issue. My machine just froze while NOT using mutt. I was in the terminal, typed the few first letters of a command, then hit and the machine froze. So to my big despair, it is not a mutt issue; I bet it's more a hardware issue, and that is bad. Have a nice day, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 23-11-2018, à 09:52:59 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy a écrit : On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 07:30:00AM +0100, steve wrote: I think it's when I just go back from editing with vim to the pager. Also, are you using IMAP? Yes I do via offlineimap. It sounds like this may be triggered by offlineimap updating while you are in the middle of composing the message. NeoMutt checks for new mail in the pager too, but it looks like in 1.7.2 they botched the redraw-data updates, setting "max" before the index data structures were updated. It looks like this is fixed in the latest version link posted by Jörg. However, I think it would be tricky to get Debian/Ubuntu to patch this for a non-security issue. Your best bet would be to update. You mean compiling myself the last git version? I'd like to stick to Debian's version if possible. Another workaround might be turning off $pager_index_lines. Currently it's set to pager_index_lines=9 which I find useful. Since the problem hasn't occurred for the 4 last days, I'll wait a bit before your suggested workaround. Thanks a lot for your help. Have a nice weekend. Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 23-11-2018, à 21:31:25 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : steve hat am Do 22. Nov, 16:19 (+0100) geschrieben: Le 22-11-2018, à 16:09:50 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : > > #0 0x5592c9a59c68 in index_make_entry (s=0x7fff20afb090 "", l=1024, menu=, num=) at ../../curs_main.c:300 > > h = 0x5592cbef1670 > > flag = (MUTT_FORMAT_TREE | MUTT_FORMAT_MAKEPRINT | MUTT_FORMAT_ARROWCURSOR | MUTT_FORMAT_INDEX) > > edgemsgno = 40 > > reverse = > > tmp = > > This is here > https://sources.debian.org/src/mutt/1.7.2-1+deb9u1/curs_main.c/#L300 and > in the current version (of neomutt) here > https://salsa.debian.org/mutt-team/neomutt/blob/master/curs_main.c#L550 > > The best would be to create a bug report and if you don't care too much, I > can send the developer the coredump in a *private* mail. He might dig out > something more. That would be really nice of you. But does it mean I also have to open a bug report? I think that's the best to do. Do you have reportbug installed? This eases the creation of bug reports. Yes I have. Problem, it asks me if I really want to report a bug since my version is said to be outdated. Moreover, looking at the already reported bug, some might be the same, or very close, as mine. And other problem, I can not reproduce it at will. So not enough information yet. And as Kevin said, it might be related to offlineimap. With therefore wait a bit and try to collect more info before opening a bug.
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Hi Kevin, Le 22-11-2018, à 17:48:14 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy a écrit : On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 04:19:43PM +0100, steve wrote: I would guess that one of the thread chains is broken. Does the crash happen everytime in the same mailbox? That's a question I also asked myself. I don't know for now. I'll have to investigate a bit more. The problem is that it doesn't happen so often. I'm not familiar with the changes NeoMutt may have made to their version, but if you can duplicate with a recent Mutt, I may be able investigate further. I'm trying to duplicate but no occurrence for the last three days. However, I do have a couple questions that may (or may not) be relevant. Do you always see the crashes in the pager, or is it random? I think it's when I just go back from editing with vim to the pager. Also, are you using IMAP? Yes I do via offlineimap. Thank you. Best, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 22-11-2018, à 07:35:08 -0800, Felix Finch a écrit : On 20181122, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 07:51:48 +0100, steve wrote: > No. If switch to another console, and launch a 'ls' for example, the > cursor goes to the line and then nothing happens. Ctlr-x doesn't do > anything. Opening a new one and launching htop for example freeze the > terminal. But was it funny, is that I can firefox still works as > expected. At this stage I normally shutdown the computer physically. Hmmm, interesting... the system is not truely locked up, but perhaps it's now unable to launch new processes, or something like that. (It would be interesting to know if an instance of "htop" running on another console continues keep running even after the segfault, for example.) I have seen screen (the command!) leave the tty in a very confused state, where it thinks the usable area is less than full size, such that scrolls for instance only operate on a subsection. Try "stty sane^J". If using screen or tmux, try ^D to exit and ^A^C or ^B^C to open a new session. Sometimes I have cat'd a binary file by mistake and left the tty so confused that I have to log out and back in. Do you have ssh set up, and do you have a second computer you can ssh in from? Try ssh on that other compputer just to have an independent tty available, and see if it behaves normally after mutt locks things up. I of course tried sshing the machine, but after password prompt, nothing happened (I waited 3 minutes or so). One problem with power cycling is the file system recovery after a power loss; you can avoid that by starting a root sleep+reboot in the background, which you abort if you don't need it, otherwise let it reboot for you if possible. sudo su - (sleep 300; reboot) & ^D su was blocked too. In fact opening any new terminal left me with no possibility to enter commands. and on to your mutt crashing. If mutt locks up, wait 5 minutes and see it it reboots on its own. If not, power cycle. You can use "shutdown -h now" instead of reboot if you want. Doesn't work either. If nutt locks up but the other suggestions leave you with a working tty, or if mutt doesn't lock up, you have 5 minutes to "sudo su -" again and kill the sleep+reboot job. Adjust the 300 second sleep to your patience; how quickly can you make mutt lockup? How often do you wnat to kill and restart that sleeper, and how long do you want to wait for it to reboot after a lockup? You can start similar background jobs to report interesting data and wait a few minutes, then on reboot, check its logged output. while :; do date >>~/loggy; sleep 10; done & You may need a nohup in there; try logging out with that running and make sure it remans running. If mutt locks up, not the exact time, wiat 5 minutes, power cycle, and check ~/loggy to see how long it kept logging. Thanks Felix for this lengthy help, but it looks a bit too much for me of an action. I'm getting too old for this kind of fun ;) That's why I love Debian, it's so rock solid and stable that I don't need to go in that kind of things (any more). Best, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 22-11-2018, à 16:09:50 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : #0 0x5592c9a59c68 in index_make_entry (s=0x7fff20afb090 "", l=1024, menu=, num=) at ../../curs_main.c:300 h = 0x5592cbef1670 flag = (MUTT_FORMAT_TREE | MUTT_FORMAT_MAKEPRINT | MUTT_FORMAT_ARROWCURSOR | MUTT_FORMAT_INDEX) edgemsgno = 40 reverse = tmp = This is here https://sources.debian.org/src/mutt/1.7.2-1+deb9u1/curs_main.c/#L300 and in the current version (of neomutt) here https://salsa.debian.org/mutt-team/neomutt/blob/master/curs_main.c#L550 The best would be to create a bug report and if you don't care too much, I can send the developer the coredump in a *private* mail. He might dig out something more. That would be really nice of you. But does it mean I also have to open a bug report? I would guess that one of the thread chains is broken. Does the crash happen everytime in the same mailbox? That's a question I also asked myself. I don't know for now. I'll have to investigate a bit more. The problem is that it doesn't happen so often. Thank you very much for your help Best, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 22-11-2018, à 02:09:46 -0500, Nathan Stratton Treadway a écrit : On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 07:51:48 +0100, steve wrote: No. If switch to another console, and launch a 'ls' for example, the cursor goes to the line and then nothing happens. Ctlr-x doesn't do anything. Opening a new one and launching htop for example freeze the terminal. But was it funny, is that I can firefox still works as expected. At this stage I normally shutdown the computer physically. Hmmm, interesting... the system is not truely locked up, but perhaps it's now unable to launch new processes, or something like that. (It would be interesting to know if an instance of "htop" running on another console continues keep running even after the segfault, for example.) I'll leave an htop running just in case. [...] No, nothing in syslog I think. (It might be worth double-checking to make sure -- if for example [Byour follow-on attempts to run "ls" and "htop" also show up as segfaults in the log, that would certainly tell you something.) Double checked and I'm pretty sure there is nothing else. Yes, I think it might be a hardware problem triggered by a mutt segfault. Still looking around. (The distinction may not matter in the end, but off hand I'd suspect the hardware fault [or whatever it is] is causing both the mutt segfault and the other symptoms you are seeing.) It's really only mutt (or neomutt…) that triggers the problem, no other program. Anyway, good luck tracking it down... Thank you, I hope I can succeed (with your and Jörg nice help). Best, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 21-11-2018, à 23:10:51 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit :
This does not tell me anything (I'm not a developer). Do you think I should
open a bug report on the Debian BTS?
Yes, this would be helpful. Do you have gdb installed? Can you run
`coredumpctl debug` and run `bt full` on the gdb prompt? This output would
be very helpful for the developer to see, what was the state before the
crash.
Ok, I attached the output of 'bt full' in gdb. Doesn't speak to me :)
Thanks.
Steve
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Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 21-11-2018, à 23:10:51 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : steve hat am Mi 21. Nov, 19:50 (+0100) geschrieben: # coredumpctl info PID: 1678 (mutt) UID: 1000 (steve) GID: 1000 (steve) Signal: 11 (SEGV) Timestamp: Wed 2018-11-21 19:45:57 CET (17s ago) Command Line: mutt -y -n Executable: /usr/bin/mutt Control Group: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-3.scope Unit: session-3.scope Slice: user-1000.slice Session: 3 Owner UID: 1000 (steve) Boot ID: 75e02422e0584081937ef6fe13f1e8ba Machine ID: 63a22f7a1c2437b0703353c75343f80e Hostname: box.maison.mrs Storage: /var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.mutt.1000.75e02422e0584081937ef6fe13f1e8ba.1678.154282595700.lz4 Message: Process 1678 (mutt) of user 1000 dumped core. Stack trace of thread 1678: #0 0x5592c9a59c68 index_make_entry (mutt) #1 0x5592c9a822bc menu_redraw_index (mutt) #2 0x5592c9a90d3b mutt_pager (mutt) #3 0x5592c9a4ea85 mutt_display_message (mutt) #4 0x5592c9a5df9c mutt_index_menu (mutt) #5 0x5592c9a3ef16 main (mutt) #6 0x7f002ec182e1 __libc_start_main (libc.so.6) #7 0x5592c9a3ef8a _start (mutt) This does not tell me anything (I'm not a developer). Do you think I should open a bug report on the Debian BTS? Yes, this would be helpful. Do you have gdb installed? Can you run `coredumpctl debug` and run `bt full` on the gdb prompt? This output would be very helpful for the developer to see, what was the state before the crash. I will do this this afternoon. Thank you. Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Hi, Le 21-11-2018, à 17:51:39 -0500, Nathan Stratton Treadway a écrit : On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 12:42:02 +0100, steve wrote: I have a new box for about two months and it appears that each time mutt segfaults, the console freezes and I have to hard stop the machine. Here is what I have in /var/log/kernel.log: When you say "the console freezes": are you able to log in normally using another virtual terminal or ssh session or anything? No. If switch to another console, and launch a 'ls' for example, the cursor goes to the line and then nothing happens. Ctlr-x doesn't do anything. Opening a new one and launching htop for example freeze the terminal. But was it funny, is that I can firefox still works as expected. At this stage I normally shutdown the computer physically. Or is the system fully locked up, no longer responding to pings, etc.? Does the syslog file show any activity at all between the mutt segfault and the restart-after-reboot messages? No, nothing in syslog I think. If a Mutt segfault is really able to lock up the system entirely, that is a sign of a bigger problem with your kernel and/or hardware (i.e. a user process such as Mutt should not be able to lock up the entire system, no matter how it crashes). Tracking down the Mutt coredump may help you narrow down what part of the broader system is failing, but really it seems like you are trying to figure out what system-wide problem Mutt happens to be tickling Yes, I think it might be a hardware problem triggered by a mutt segfault. Still looking around. Thank you, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Hi, Mutt crashed just after hitting 'r'. Here is the output of # coredumpctl info PID: 1678 (mutt) UID: 1000 (steve) GID: 1000 (steve) Signal: 11 (SEGV) Timestamp: Wed 2018-11-21 19:45:57 CET (17s ago) Command Line: mutt -y -n Executable: /usr/bin/mutt Control Group: /user.slice/user-1000.slice/session-3.scope Unit: session-3.scope Slice: user-1000.slice Session: 3 Owner UID: 1000 (steve) Boot ID: 75e02422e0584081937ef6fe13f1e8ba Machine ID: 63a22f7a1c2437b0703353c75343f80e Hostname: box.maison.mrs Storage: /var/lib/systemd/coredump/core.mutt.1000.75e02422e0584081937ef6fe13f1e8ba.1678.154282595700.lz4 Message: Process 1678 (mutt) of user 1000 dumped core. Stack trace of thread 1678: #0 0x5592c9a59c68 index_make_entry (mutt) #1 0x5592c9a822bc menu_redraw_index (mutt) #2 0x5592c9a90d3b mutt_pager (mutt) #3 0x5592c9a4ea85 mutt_display_message (mutt) #4 0x5592c9a5df9c mutt_index_menu (mutt) #5 0x5592c9a3ef16 main (mutt) #6 0x7f002ec182e1 __libc_start_main (libc.so.6) #7 0x5592c9a3ef8a _start (mutt) This does not tell me anything (I'm not a developer). Do you think I should open a bug report on the Debian BTS? Thanks. Best, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 21-11-2018, à 08:53:53 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : steve hat am Mi 21. Nov, 06:42 (+0100) geschrieben: Le 20-11-2018, à 21:19:05 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : > > > Do you use systemd? Can you install the packages systemd-coredump and > > > mutt-dbgsym? After a crash you can run `coredumpctl info -1` and post the > > > > There is no mutt-dbgsym in stretch, only jessie and sid. I installed > > systemd-coredump. Will launch the command after next freeze. > > You have to add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list > > deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-debug/ stable-debug main non-free contrib Thanks, I didn't know about that repo. Installed now, waiting for the next freeze. Can I run the command after a reboot? Yes. Coredumpctl should capture the crash dump and you can inspect it later, if it was successful. But maybe the crash causes the kernel can not even write the core dump out to disk. Thank you for the explanations. Best, Steve
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 20-11-2018, à 21:19:05 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : > Do you use systemd? Can you install the packages systemd-coredump and > mutt-dbgsym? After a crash you can run `coredumpctl info -1` and post the There is no mutt-dbgsym in stretch, only jessie and sid. I installed systemd-coredump. Will launch the command after next freeze. You have to add the following line to /etc/apt/sources.list deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-debug/ stable-debug main non-free contrib Thanks, I didn't know about that repo. Installed now, waiting for the next freeze. Can I run the command after a reboot?
Re: segfault causes system freeze
Le 20-11-2018, à 14:29:30 +0100, Jörg Sommer a écrit : steve hat am Di 20. Nov, 12:42 (+0100) geschrieben: Hi There, I have a new box for about two months and it appears that each time mutt segfaults, the console freezes and I have to hard stop the machine. Here is what I have in /var/log/kernel.log: Nov 19 15:54:17 box kernel: [ 7970.303276] mutt[13832]: segfault at 8 ip 55a9d9996c68 sp 7fff5e7f47c0 error 4 in mutt[55a9d9963000+115000] Nov 19 15:54:17 box kernel: [ 7970.303284] Code: e1 00 01 41 89 cb 0f 84 c6 00 00 00 8b 4a 2c 03 8a 90 00 00 00 48 63 52 1c 39 d1 0f 8e cc 00 00 00 45 8b 54 92 fc 49 8b 58 68 <48> 8b 53 08 48 85 d2 75 26 eb 3d 0f 1f 44 00 00 44 3b 51 38 41 0f Do you use systemd? Can you install the packages systemd-coredump and mutt-dbgsym? After a crash you can run `coredumpctl info -1` and post the There is no mutt-dbgsym in stretch, only jessie and sid. I installed systemd-coredump. Will launch the command after next freeze. Thank you Steve
segfault causes system freeze
Hi There, I have a new box for about two months and it appears that each time mutt segfaults, the console freezes and I have to hard stop the machine. Here is what I have in /var/log/kernel.log: Nov 19 15:54:17 box kernel: [ 7970.303276] mutt[13832]: segfault at 8 ip 55a9d9996c68 sp 7fff5e7f47c0 error 4 in mutt[55a9d9963000+115000] Nov 19 15:54:17 box kernel: [ 7970.303284] Code: e1 00 01 41 89 cb 0f 84 c6 00 00 00 8b 4a 2c 03 8a 90 00 00 00 48 63 52 1c 39 d1 0f 8e cc 00 00 00 45 8b 54 92 fc 49 8b 58 68 <48> 8b 53 08 48 85 d2 75 26 eb 3d 0f 1f 44 00 00 44 3b 51 38 41 0f I don't understand the above message. I'm using NeoMutt 20170113 (1.7.2) from Debian stretch. What should I do/try? Thanks. Best, Steve
Re: Aliases
Le 19-11-2018, à 06:20:29 -0800, Felix Finch a écrit : Now if I want to add joe to the CC field, I cannot use the alias, I must enter it manually. This case happens so often for me that I'm looking for a way to simplify this process. I don't know if using aliases is the right way to go, I don't see how to add joe to the group group1 AND ask that it goes in the CC filed and not in the TO field. You can use aliases in the editor, they just don't autocomplete. Put "joe" in the Cc: header with the editor; when mutt picks up the edited email, it expands it. This is fantastic! And it works for any number of aliases, in To or Bcc fields. And even after reediting the message. Exactly what I needed. Thank you very much. Best, Steve
Aliases
Hi, I'm using the alias functionality very often, but there is one thing lacking or that I haven't found yet. Let's say I have a group alias like this alias group1 a,b,c,d and a simple one like this alias joe j...@example.com Now, I would like to create a new message with m, then the TO field appears and I type group1 which fills that field with the four recipients. Then I get the subject field and then I can edit the message with my editor, vim in my case. Now if I want to add joe to the CC field, I cannot use the alias, I must enter it manually. This case happens so often for me that I'm looking for a way to simplify this process. I don't know if using aliases is the right way to go, I don't see how to add joe to the group group1 AND ask that it goes in the CC filed and not in the TO field. Maybe should I try to create some kind of template pre-filled? Any help and/or ideas would be highly appreciated. Thank. Best, Steve
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Quote multiple messages in new message
Le 20-01-2018, à 14:35:03 +0100, Simon Ruderich a écrit : Note that this will add in-reply-to headers which you might not expect if you want to create a new message. Right. But it's that of a hassle to modify the headers. Including text is much more. Have a nice Sunday, Steve
[SOLVED] Re: Quote multiple messages in new message
Le 17-01-2018, à 16:42:53 -0800, Claus Assmann a écrit : On Wed, Jan 17, 2018, steve wrote: I tried to tag some messages with T then type ;m but this create an empty new message. Did you try "reply"? ;r Stupidly (or so), I didn't… And it does exactly what I wanted. Thank you. And thanks for the others for their input. Best, Steve
Quote multiple messages in new message
Hi, I would like to create a new message containing quotations of others messages (in order to avoid copy-pasting). I tried to tag some messages with T then type ;m but this create an empty new message. I've searched the web with many different key words but failed to find a solution. Help would be highly appreciated. Best Steve
group-reply Bcc
Hi I have asked this some time ago [1] but I may have not been specific enough. I'll give it another shot. I have write_bcc=yes set and therefore a copy of a sent mail will have the Bcc header set and filled with recipients. I'd like to to that mail and wonder how to make the reply mail get the Bcc header filled. doesn't do that. Is there any setting that I may have overlooked in the manual? If not, I should be able to write a macro which extracts the Bcc from the mail when replying. I'm thinking along the lines of and "formail -x Bcc" for extracting the header and my_hdr for setting it, but I have kind of a hard time coming up with a working macro, so if someone has some clever hints, that'll be great. Thanks! best, Steve [1] https://marc.info/?l=mutt-users=144239490327363=2
Re: Mutt - Neomutt and Debian Stretch
Hi leo, I have the same setup as you do (debian stretch+mutt). On [1], one can read: This package is built with the NeoMutt patchset, which includes a number of additional features compared to the stock Mutt. Which I don't interpret as you do; debian's mutt is compiled with the NeoMutt patchset, but it's mutt and not neomutt. So you have mutt ;) Best, Steve [1] https://packages.debian.org/stretch/mutt
Re: sidebar_whitelist not working
On Mar 21 12:08 -0500, Arturo wrote: > > Hello, I have a ton of Gmail labels/folders i've setup over the years that I > don't want > to see all the time in the sidebar. But there are a few I'd like to be > there whether or not they contain new mail. If you use Gmail and IMAP, you could also (u) from the ones you don't want to see. You may also need to set imap_check_subscribed=yes for this to be useful. best, Steve
[solved] Re: Encoding issue with attachment
Le 26-04-2017, à 09:41:21 +0200, Michael Tatge a écrit : * On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 08:45AM +0200 steve (dl...@bluewin.ch) muttered: I have some issue with some attachment that I get when wanting to save them. For instance, I get this: ./=?iso-8859-1?Q?Convocation_et_Agenda_Comit=E9_Strat=E9gique_2017.04.02?==?iso-8859-1?Q?_-_V2.pdf?= How can I solve this problem? set rfc2047_parameters Works like a charm. Many thanks Steve
Encoding issue with attachment
Hello, As said in the subject, I have some issue with some attachment that I get when wanting to save them. For instance, I get this: ./=?iso-8859-1?Q?Convocation_et_Agenda_Comit=E9_Strat=E9gique_2017.04.02?==?iso-8859-1?Q?_-_V2.pdf?= We see that the 'é' became '=E9' and some more junk. Interestingly, I received other attachment from the same server (MS exchange) which don't show this behaviour. How can I solve this problem? Thank you and have a nice day. Steve
Re: on limiting and pattern modifiers
Hi there, I don't know what happened between last week and today, but now it works… Maybe an update or something. Anyway, thanks for the consideration and help. Best, Steve
Re: on limiting and pattern modifiers
Thanks for the answers. As a matter of fact I tried in another mail directory (the mutt one) and it works. Specifically I tried with Tim Ye, which has the same kind of "First Name" <first.n...@example.com> as what causes me a problem, and here no problem. So it's a kind of a mystery right now for me. For privacy reason, I cannot provide you with my other folder where the problem arises. Would you have any hints on how I could try to debug this problem ? Have a nice Sunday. Steve
on limiting and pattern modifiers
Hi, When using '~f EXPR', I noticed that EXPR is matched only in the not in the name in front on it, as I would expect it. For example, ~f john will match From: John Doe <john@example.com> but ~f John won't. Is there a way that either 'john or John' match this From line? Thanks, Steve ps: I'm using mutt 1.5.23 on Debian Jessie
Re: can't read sent encrypted mail
On Oct 07 21:02 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Sat, Oct 08, 2016 at 02:46:42AM +0200, Peter P. wrote: [...] > > How would I add my own key to the encryption in gpgme? > > You could try adding an 'encrypt-to' setting in your ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf file. Sorry for being late. I hit the same problem as Peter -- Debian's config sets crypt_use_gpgme=yes in /etc/Muttrc.d/gpg.rc as of 1.7.x I had the encrypt-to set in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf before, which has the downside that it will *always* encrypt with my key also outside of mutt, where I might not want that. That's why I like the option of setting --encrypt-to in gpg.rc using the classic interface -- restrict the encrypt-to to mutt. Since gpgme is a gpg API, there seems to be no gpgme.conf or such where one could set this option. Therefore, I'll use the classic interface as long as it exists :) best, Steve
Re: crypt-hook: truncated list of gpg recipients passed to pgpewrap
On Jul 27 19:19 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > I think I see the problem. Mutt is using a fixed buffer of size 1024 > when expanding the %r parameter. I think when the system was designed, > no one anticipated expanding 50+ keys in a single gpg invocation. :-) Yes, I was suspecting something like that. > Right now, the best I can suggest is trying gpgme instead. I'll work on > a solution for a future release. Thanks! I'll give gpgme a spin. I didn't find that much documentation, though. I only need to set crypt_use_gpgme crypt_use_pka instead of defining the various pgp_* variables (usually shipped in gpg.rc)? Do they have any effect, then? Thanks, again. best, Steve
crypt-hook: truncated list of gpg recipients passed to pgpewrap
Hi all The following is related to [1], i.e. use multiple crypt-hook commands. I'm using something like this[*] crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com EX9B197029581FAC crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com 4C95T7E7F627637D crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com 74464897317CDA88 crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com FECEC90758BB1D95 crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com 866BAB720X7E9L98 Running this with mutt -d2, I see in the debug log that the list of recipients is passed to pgpewrap, but truncated as follows (lines broken): [2016-07-26 14:49:12] mutt_pgp_command: /usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg2 --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode --output - --encrypt --encrypt-to --sign -u Y --armor --always-trust -- -r 0xEX9B197029581FAC 0x4C95T7E7F627637D 0x74464897317CDA -- /tmp/mutt-foo-1000-aaa-bb i.e. mutt * stops at the third[**] key 74464897317CDA88 (length 16) and * passes a truncated version 74464897317CDA (length 14) to pgpewrap which then gives me a "gpg: skipped: Invalid user ID". The related pgp setting is set pgp_encrypt_sign_command="/usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap gpg2 %?p?--passphrase-fd 0? --batch --quiet --no-verbose --textmode --output %- --encrypt --encrypt-to --sign %?a?-u %a? --armor %--always-trust -- -r %r -- %f" Does anybody know what's going on here (Debian, Mutt 1.6.0 (2016-04-01))? Any hint is appreciated. Thank you very much! best, Steve [1] http://marc.info/?l=mutt-users=146850542227714=2 [*] The key ids are fetched from gpg2 --list-keys --with-colons company.com | grep ^pub:f: | cut -d: -f5 [**] In my tests, I have 64 keys in total and the truncated one is number 54.
Re: gpg groups or encrypt to multiple recipients (mailing list)
On Jul 14 07:07 -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com key1 > crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com key2 > crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com keyN > unset crypt_confirmhook That's much better, indeed. I'm now using something like this in a script which I souce: gpg2 --list-key | sed -nre 's/.*<(.*@company\.com)>.*/crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com \1/p' Thank's a lot! best, Steve
gpg groups or encrypt to multiple recipients (mailing list)
Hi I'd like to ask what approach people have to send encrypted mail to multiple mailing list recipients in mailing list via a mailing list address (say mailing.l...@company.com). Sadly, my company's policy is to not have a mailing list key and let the mail server re-encrypt the mail. I know it sucks, but I need to send encrypted mail to the list anyway. I'm aware of [1,2] and used the approach in [2]: # .gnupg/gpg.conf group 0x12345678 = key1 key2 .. keyN # muttrc crypt-hook mailing.l...@company.com 0x12345678 This is OK for me, apart from making up a hex key -- this is really awkward (I literally used 0x12345678). Are there other workarounds in use? The solution above can't be the only one. Apart from the gpg group thing, I would have been fine with the option of interactively selecting the keys to encrypt to in the PGP menu, independently from the actual recipient's address. Is this possible? Thanks! best, Steve [1] https://dev.mutt.org/trac/ticket/2873 [2] https://dev.mutt.org/trac/ticket/973
Re: How to color diffs in a patch-mail?
Hi Matthias, I use colordiff. In my ~/.mailcap, I have text/x-diff; cat %s | colordiff; copiousoutput text/x-patch; cat %s | colordiff; copiousoutput Best, Steve
About saving outgoing messages
Hi there! Let's say I'm sending a message to mom and dad and writing it from the Inbox folder. Once this message is sent, it is saved in $record=Sent folder. Now if I write the message from within the family/mom folder, it gets saved in the family/mom folder since I have defined set record=+family/mom in a file being sourced when I enter the family/mom folder. but I don't have a copy of this message in the family/dad folder. So I have two questions here. First, say I have n recipients in the From: line, is it possible to save a copy of the message n times, each in the right folder? If so, how can I do that (and as a corollary, is it a good policy?) A second, how can I manage to save a message in the right folder even if I'm not writing it in that folder? I've been playing with folder-hook and fcc-hook but never managed to get where I would like. Thanks for any help. Steve
keep Fcc/Bcc when replying
Hello all This is probably trivial, however I could not find the appropriate section in the manual. I have a message that I sent and which may include Cc, Bcc and Fcc headers. Ho do I reply, including all Cc + Fcc + Bcc recipients? seems to work only * for Cc * when the message is not from myself while the Bcc and Fcc headers are never taken over to the reply. Right now I'm saving the to-be-replied-to mail, compose the reply and then copy the Bcc header from the saved one. best, Steve
Re: collapse threads automatically after imap mailbox update
On Sep 12 09:16 -0500, Jeff Melton wrote: > Your mail made it to the list, yes. OK thanks for the info. best, Steve
collapse threads automatically after imap mailbox update
Hello all I'm using folder-hook . "push " to collapse threads. Recently, I started using imapfilter since one of the imap servers to which I'm connecting has no sieve support. The problem is now that when imapfilter alters the mailbox that I am currently viewing (move mail, ...), then mutt will uncollapse all threads. Is there a way to collapse them automatically after a mailbox update? Thanks for any hints! best, Steve
Re: lunch
Café du marché à midi (j'ai réservé à cette heure-là, possible pour vous ? )
Re: Reply to all CC's but not to From
Hi David, Le 10-06-2015, à 11:17:22 -0500, David Champion a écrit : * On 10 Jun 2015, steve wrote: Hi, I often receive a message like this: From: A To: Me, X, Y, Z CC: others I would like to answer like this: From: Me To: X, Y, Z so A and others are discarded. For the time being, I'm copy pasting addresses to achieve this, so it's not very convenient. Is this possible to do (and easy)? You can't prescriptively discard the sender from the recipient list. The easiest approach is to set edit_headers in your muttrc, so you can manually fix them in the editor. That's a pity but thanks for the tip, I'll give it a try. Best, Steve
Re: lunch
Le 12-06-2015, à 11:34:45 +0200, steve a écrit : Café du marché à midi (j'ai réservé à cette heure-là, possible pour vous ? ) Sorry for this one… it seems like my conf is not 100% correct.
Reply to all CC's but not to From
Hi, I often receive a message like this: From: A To: Me, X, Y, Z CC: others I would like to answer like this: From: Me To: X, Y, Z so A and others are discarded. For the time being, I'm copy pasting addresses to achieve this, so it's not very convenient. Is this possible to do (and easy)? Thanks. Steve
Display image in attached html file
Hi all, I'm receiving reports in html containing images. In mutt, those images are separated from the html file. For example, when I press 'v', I see the html file on one line and the image on another. Pressing 'enter' fires up firefox to display the html file. Problem, the image will not show in that page (it doesn't find the image's address). I've been looking around for a solution but failed until now, so that's the reason I'm posting here. How could I achieve that? Thank you, Steve
Re: Display image in attached html file
Le 11-11-2014, à 21:09:07 +1100, Erik Christiansen a écrit : On 11.11.14 10:54, steve wrote: For example, when I press 'v', I see the html file on one line and the image on another. Pressing 'enter' fires up firefox to display the html file. What happens when you press down-arrow, to highlight the image, then press enter? You mean a kind of selection of images? I tried but I cannot highlight the html file and the image files all together. If the problem is lack of of an entry in /etc/mailcap to match the filetype of the image, then you'd have an error message. What does it say? No, html file and images file are properly defined in the mailcap file (I can go on an image and press 'enter' and the image displays correctly). Thanks.
Re: Display image in attached html file
Hi Peter, Thanks for your answer. Le 11-11-2014, à 08:18:42 -0500, Peter Davis a écrit : On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 10:54:27AM +0100, steve wrote: Hi all, I'm receiving reports in html containing images. In mutt, those images are separated from the html file. For example, when I press 'v', I see the html file on one line and the image on another. Pressing 'enter' fires up firefox to display the html file. Problem, the image will not show in that page (it doesn't find the image's address). I've been looking around for a solution but failed until now, so that's the reason I'm posting here. How could I achieve that? When I want to see an html message as html, including images, etc., I pipe it through mhonarc and to a browser, using this command: macro pager B :unset wait_key\npipe-messagemhonarc -rcfile ~/.m2h_rcfile -single | browser\n:set wait_key\n MHonArc nicely adds the message header to the HTML body so it's all very readable in the browser. The resource file, .m2h_rcfile, lets you configure options for including or not including various MIME types, including images. Thanks for the tip but unfortunately it doesn't work here. When I press 'B' in the pager, it opens iceweasel on the homepage (and not with the desired html file). On the command line one can then read: Warning: No end boundary delimiter found in message body Processing stopped, signal caught: SIGPIPE After some more searching, it seems that mhonarc doesn't support (well?) multipart/related content-type messages. Any (other) ideas? Many thanks, Steve
[SOLVED] Re: Display image in attached html file
Brilliant! For me, calling viewhtmlmsg directly (no mutt_viewhtmlmsg script) in the macro was enough: macro index,pager B pipe-messageviewhtmlmsg -s -b iceweaselenter Thanks a LOT. Steve
residual configuration
Hi mutt-users, I have a problem that is driving me mad which I'm failing to solve myself. Let's say I'm reading a message in the mutt folder. Then I hit 'c' to change to a folder containing a new message. I read that message and then hit 'r' to reply to it. And I see in the To: line the right address, but also, and that's what is driving me crazy, the address of the mutt-users mailing list (from the previous folder). I would like to reset the configuration when I change folder and then read a new configuration file for that specific folder. I have tried to put unhook * at the beginning of the new configuration file but it doesn't work, I still see this residual email address in the To: line. I also tried to launch mutt with -d2 but I don't see anything that helps me. I'm turning in circles so I need some help. Any ideas how to solve this issue? Many thanks in advance, steve
[Solved] Re: residual configuration
Found it, it was a missing unmy_hdr To: in one of the configuration files. sorry for the noise. Have a nice day, steve
Re: keep headers fixed in pager
Le 06-10-2012, à 12:17:08 +0200, Marco Giusti (marco.giu...@gmail.com) a écrit : On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:20:56PM +0200, steve wrote: Hi, Is it possible, while reading a mail, to keep the headers fixed while scrolling down the message? I experienced many times when I have to go back to the top of the message to see who has been CCied for example. Keeping chosen headers fixed would be really useful (in some circumstances). I tried to dig the archives for a solution but since I'm not sure I've got the right keywords, my search failed. rough but I think it does what you need, but I would not use it Thanks Marco, unfortunately I haven't had time yet to dig in your code.
Re: keep headers fixed in pager
Hi Adam, Thank you for your answer. But your suggestion seems (unfortunately) much too complicated for me. I guess I'll have to live with this. But I'm curious to know how people deal with the issue I raised. Do people simply scroll back to the top to get this info ? Just curious. Have a nice day, steve
Re: keep headers fixed in pager
Hi again, Is my question so obvious or is it simply not possible? Thank you Le 26-09-2012, à 22:20:56 +0200, steve (dl...@bluewin.ch) a écrit : Hi, Is it possible, while reading a mail, to keep the headers fixed while scrolling down the message? I experienced many times when I have to go back to the top of the message to see who has been CCied for example. Keeping chosen headers fixed would be really useful (in some circumstances). I tried to dig the archives for a solution but since I'm not sure I've got the right keywords, my search failed. Thank in advance for your help. steve
Re: keep headers fixed in pager
Le 02-10-2012, à 17:34:25 +1000, Cameron Simpson (c...@zip.com.au) a écrit : On 02Oct2012 08:34, steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote: | Is my question so obvious or is it simply not possible? I think it is not possible. It seems to me that mutt pages the output of $display_filter, which includes the message headers. Very cool if you want to filter the displayed headers, but inflexible with respect to your wish. Ok, too bad. Thank you for your answer. steve
Re: keep headers fixed in pager
Le 02-10-2012, à 10:31:42 -0400, Peter Davis (p...@pfdstudio.com) a écrit : On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 01:21:13PM +0200, steve wrote: Le 02-10-2012, à 17:34:25 +1000, Cameron Simpson (c...@zip.com.au) a écrit : On 02Oct2012 08:34, steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote: | Is my question so obvious or is it simply not possible? I think it is not possible. It seems to me that mutt pages the output of $display_filter, which includes the message headers. Very cool if you want to filter the displayed headers, but inflexible with respect to your wish. Ok, too bad. You could write your own pager and tell mutt to use that instead of the built-in one, but that may be more effort than it's worth. (I don't know what it's worth to you.) I dream I could :)
Re: keep headers fixed in pager
Is it possible, while reading a mail, to keep the headers fixed while scrolling down the message? I experienced many times when I have to go back to the top of the message to see who has been CCied for example. Keeping chosen headers fixed would be really useful (in some circumstances). Could maybe changing “pager_format” resolve your problem? I don't see how it could. Would you please suggest an example ?
keep headers fixed in pager
Hi, Is it possible, while reading a mail, to keep the headers fixed while scrolling down the message? I experienced many times when I have to go back to the top of the message to see who has been CCied for example. Keeping chosen headers fixed would be really useful (in some circumstances). I tried to dig the archives for a solution but since I'm not sure I've got the right keywords, my search failed. Thank in advance for your help. steve
Re: mutt deletes attachement before libreoffice tries to open it
Hi, Le 26-04-2012, à 08:07:42 -0300, Marcelo Luiz de Laia (marcelol...@gmail.com) a écrit : On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Jostein Berntsen wrote: It seems like most of your entries are bound to openoffice(soffice) instead of libreoffice. Try to change all entries to libreoffice instead. Jostein Thank you very much, but, it dosen't solve that problem. If libreoffice is alread running, I coundn't open the attachment. I fell on your post while searching the web for a solution to the exact same issue than yours. This problem arises only when trying to open a document with libreoffice while libreoffice is already opened. Have you found a solution? I'm running mutt 1.5.21 on Debian wheezy. Thank you. Best regards, Steve
regexp and pattern limit
Hi, I'm trying to write a regexp in order to capture some words to put them in color. I have a line like this in my .muttrc: color body red default \etch\|((L|l)enny)|((S|s)queeze)|((S|s)arge)|((P|p)otato) I want to catch only etch, but not fetch nor fetchera (or whatever combination). So I tried the \word\ syntax without success. I also tried the Perl way \bword\b which fails too. I'm no regex guru, so could someone help me please? Thanks in advance, Steve
[SOLVED] Re: regexp and pattern limit
Dear mutt users, Thanks for all of your replies. \\(e|E)tch\\ does exactly was I was looking for. Have a nice day, Steve
limit to threads with certain number of messages
Hello Is there a way to limit to threads that have only a certain number of messages in it, something like ~(~M 10). I found no pattern modifier to do that. The only related thread I could dig out is http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/18902/focus=19085 Thanks for any hints. best, Steve
Re: limit to threads with certain number of messages
On Jul 21 11:35 +0200, Jostein Berntsen wrote: You might have to patch mutt with this patch to get the ~Z modifier: http://does-not-exist.org/mail-archives/mutt-users/msg19738.html Ah thanks. I think I remember that message. I had to search web archives because I deleted messages from last year. Strangely, the thread did not show up at gmane.org, but I just checked and it does show up at markmail.org. best, Steve
Re: ispell with vim
Hi, Le 16-05-2011, à 00:17:36 -0700, Robert Holtzman (hol...@cox.net) a écrit : BTW, how do you add words to the Vim spell checker? Running a search turned up nothing of value. zg with the word under the cursor (in normal mode). See :h zg Have a nice day, Steve
Re: Abbreviate full imap folder names
On Sep 25 01:22 +0300, Cristopher Thomas wrote: On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 17:30, Steve Schmerler elcort...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi In the folder browser, can I abbreviate things like 11 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX 12 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/mutt-users to, say 11 0 gmail/INBOX 12 0 gmail/mutt-users I don't know if you've found a solution yet, but offlineimap makes this possible. Setting up 'nametrans' allows offlineimap to read from a folder on the imap server, eg '[Gmail]All Mail', and write to a local folder such as 'archive', and vice-versa. Ah ok good to know. I'll keep that in mind should I switch to offlineimap one day. Thank you. best, Steve
default directory for change-dir
Hi I really like mutt, but fiddling with IMAP is driving me nuts sometimes :) I think I do not understand some fundamental behavior. Say I have two IMAP accounts. In the browser: 1 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/ 2 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX 3 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/foo 4 0 imaps://mail.messagingengine.com:992/ 5 0 imaps://mail.messagingengine.com:992/INBOX 6 0 imaps://mail.messagingengine.com:992/bar I'm using set imap_passive=no set imap_check_subscribed=yes set imap_list_subscribed=yes and have all subscribed folders in the browser. Very nice. But say I want to enter imaps://imap.gmail.com/ anyway to see unsubscribed sub-folders. Highlighting it and pressing Enter puts me in imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX. So I figure that I have to change-dir imaps://imap.gmail.com/ It seems that change-dir has a default dir, which seems to be the current dir where Mutt is running. So, pressing c in the browser gives me my HOME as default dir If I started Mutt there. Chdir to: /home/elcorto This is problematic when I construct macros: macro browser ,gm change-dirimaps://imap.gmail.com macro browser ,fm change-dirimaps://mail.messagingengine.com:992 Then, I get (,gm): Chdir to: /home/elcorto/imaps://imap.gmail.com I tried unsetting $folder and $spoolfile but the default dir is still there. Is there a way to unset this default dir? Or am I totally off the track here? Thanks for your help. best, Steve
Re: default directory for change-dir
On Sep 22 00:46 +0200, Rado S wrote: See wiki - guide - /Folders + /Actions I assume that you are referring to the section TAB completion in editor mode. That kind of explains where the default dir comes from (the internal browsing directory for the next directory scan). Who knew. See editor bindings and use kill-line. That did it. This is very useful. Another command learned. macro browser ,gm change-dirkill-lineimaps://imap.gmail.comenter Thank you! best, Steve
Abbreviate full imap folder names
Hi In the folder browser, can I abbreviate things like 11 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/INBOX 12 0 imaps://imap.gmail.com/mutt-users to, say 11 0 gmail/INBOX 12 0 gmail/mutt-users This is with set folder_format=%2C %5N %f I found this thread [1]. Has the situation changed in the meantime? Thanks. [1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.mail.mutt.user/20058 best, Steve
Re: abook: query notes field
On Sep 02 17:38 -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Sorry to respond to myself -- but this version has minor improvements. That's neat! Thanks for the nice script. So it is either parse-it-yourself or use a full-fledged LDAP. If I script the parser myself, I might as well set up a small sqlite db to hold my contacts. There is no real need to use abook, then. Thanks. best, Steve
abook: query notes field
Hi Say I have abook entries like [0] name=Bob B. email=...@gmail.com nick=bob notes=friend,coworker [1] name=Alice A. email=al...@gmail.com nick=alice notes=friend Is it possible to query the notes field? abook --mutt-query friend abook --mutt-query coworker abook returns Not found in that case and seems to search only in the name and email fields. The background is that I want to high-jack the notes field to tag entries with an arbitrary (comma separated) list of tags (friend, coworker) and, for instance, send a mail to all people with the friend tag. If that is not possible, what other address book systems do people use which can handle tags which can be queried? Thanks. best, Steve
Re: Suggestion when saving mails
Around 07:56pm on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 (UK time), Roger scrawled: Since I'm always saving/moving email to $HOME/.maildir/.Spam... you would think Mutt would catch-on after the 10th email. ;-) I attach the following macros to the z key in my .muttrc macro index z s=mutt/spam\n move message to spam macro pager z s=mutt/spam\n move message to spam And then i can just z(ap) any nasty spam. Steve -- Play Champions - my free football predictions game at: http://www.stevesearle.com/champs/about.html 22:10:44 up 18 days, 10:21, 1 user, load average: 0.24, 0.10, 0.12 pgpMp0K2eW0Dp.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: How to save email plus word attachments as one text file
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:45:20PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: On 2010-06-14, Steve Brown wrote: It has come to pass that I need to save some of these emails as a text file, pretty much as it is in Mutt's pager. That is, the email body, then the text of the attachments, concatenated into one file. I just need plain text, nothing fancy at all. [...] If I understand you correctly, this is really easy to do, and the functions to do it are built in. To save a copy of the message, use the decode-copy function bound by default to EscC, or to save the message and mark the original for deletion, use the decode-save function bound by default to Escs. You can find both of these in the help menus for the index and the pager. The decode- versions of these functions will use filters defined in your mailcap file to decode the attachments from Word to plain text, just as in the pager, as they are written to the specified files along with the message bodies. Absolutely spot on! Thank you very much.
Re: set From: based on To:
Hi Patrick, Le 17-03-2010, à 11:21:59 -0400, Patrick Shanahan (ptilopt...@gmail.com) a écrit : * steve dl...@bluewin.ch [03-17-10 11:00]: Le 17-03-2010, à 09:51:24 -0400, Patrick Shanahan (ptilopt...@gmail.com) a écrit : What if you send a *new* message to a...@example.com? If I'm in inbox, the From: header is correct. What do you mean in my default inbox? It's the folder where all non-sorted (by procmail) goes. If you send me a private email it will go there. My first idea was something like : reply-hook '~t ^...@foo.bar$ 'set from=m...@foo.bar' if it is *to* you, set from *you* ??? Perhaps I'm not reading that reply-hook correctly. I read: (sorry for the english, it's not my mother tongue, as you probably noticed it) For each mail addressed to m...@foo.bar, set the From header to m...@foo.bar when replying to it. I believe we do have a communication problem :^). In your reply, the From address needs to be *your* address, not who the message was *from*. That prompted by earlier question about to/from *you*. OR, I don't understand at all. (quite possible :^) No you didn't, it's me who was a bit tired yesterday and wasn't clear enough, sorry. To sum up, here is what I want to do: you send me a private message to the address I use for this list and I want to answer with this same address. I hit 'r' and actualy the From header is not set to dl...@ch but to my default address. reply-hook '^...@foo\.bar$ set from=m...@foo.bar' Mutt tells me that there is a syntax error; it doesn't complain anymore with the following line: reply-hook '^...@foo\.bar$' 'set from=m...@foo.bar' But anyway, it doesn't do what is expected. reply-hook '^...@foo\.bar$' 'set from=dl...@bluewin.ch So here, if you send me a mail to m...@foo.bar, I would reply with dl...@blch, that's correct? If so, it's not what I want. I want to reply with m...@foo.bar. What I don't understant is that since I have, say 5 different addresses, me1, me2, ..., m25, I should write five different lines like the above one? It seems awkward to me. Am I totally confused? I would still use send-hook. I hear that, I'll follow your advice (if I can). send-hook . unmy_hdr From: send-hook me 'my_hdr From: your perferred default' send-hook m...@foo.bar set from=m...@foo.bar send-hook m...@foo.bar 'my_hdr From: m...@foo.bar' Ok I tried that (I don't really understand why the two last lines are needed *together*, but that's beside the point now) and still the same. They are not. They are two different situations, one using set from and the other using my_hdr. I would use one or the other, not both. They were provided as examples. Ah ok... but then what's the difference between them? s.
set From: based on To:
Hi mutt-users, I have several addresses and when someone I don't know sends me an email, this one goes in my inbox (procmail default). Now if I hit 'r', the From header will be automaticaly set to my default email, which is sometimes not the preferred behaviour, I would like to use the email address the sender used. For example: I receive an email with: From: a...@example.com To: m...@foo.bar (I don't have any special settings for a...@example.com) I hit 'r' and I get: From: defa...@email.bar To: a...@example.com but I would like to have: From: m...@foo.bar To: a...@example.com How can I do this? Should I use a reply-hook? reverse_name? I'm a bit confused here. Many thanks in advance for your help. steve
Re: set From: based on To:
Hi Patrick, Thanks replying to me. Le 17-03-2010, à 08:29:40 -0400, Patrick Shanahan (ptilopt...@gmail.com) a écrit : * steve dl...@bluewin.ch [03-17-10 04:53]: I receive an email with: From: a...@example.com To: m...@foo.bar (I don't have any special settings for a...@example.com) I hit 'r' and I get: From: defa...@email.bar To: a...@example.com but I would like to have: From: m...@foo.bar To: a...@example.com How can I do this? Should I use a reply-hook? reverse_name? I'm a bit confused here. I would choose, send-hook, but from TFM: Why use send-hook when it's only for replying to messages? When I'm in my default inbox and I hit 'm', I get the correct address. 19. Change Settings Based Upon Message Recipients Usage: reply-hook [!]pattern command send-hook [!]pattern command send2-hook [!]pattern command These commands can be used to execute arbitrary configuration commands based upon recipients of the message. pattern is used to match the message, see Message Matching in Hooks for details. command is executed when pattern matches. reply-hook is matched against the message you are replying_to, instead of the message you are sending. send-hook is matched against all messages, both new and replies. I have already read that, I suppose I didn't express myself very well, please forgive me. My first idea was something like : reply-hook '~t ^...@foo.bar$' 'set from=m...@foo.bar' but this doesn't work, I still get my default address in the From: header. And if it worked, I then should have to add as many lines as email addresses I have, only changing me1 with me2 and so forth, and this seems strange to me. Then I tried: reply-hook '~t ^...@foo.bar$' 'my_hdr From: m...@foo.bar' same thing. I'm missing something but I don't know what. Help would be highly appreciated. Thanks, s.
Re: set From: based on To:
Le 17-03-2010, à 09:04:38 -0400, peng shao (shallp...@gmail.com) a écrit : On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 4:52 AM, steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote: Hi mutt-users, I have several addresses and when someone I don't know sends me an email, this one goes in my inbox (procmail default). Now if I hit 'r', the From header will be automaticaly set to my default email, which is sometimes not the preferred behaviour, I would like to use the email address the sender used. For example: I receive an email with: From: a...@example.com To: m...@foo.bar (I don't have any special settings for a...@example.com) I hit 'r' and I get: From: defa...@email.bar To: a...@example.com but I would like to have: From: m...@foo.bar To: a...@example.com How can I do this? Should I use a reply-hook? reverse_name? I'm a bit confused here. Many thanks in advance for your help. steve Hi, Hi Peng, I am not sure if I am correct but if you just simply want From: m...@foo.bar To: a...@example.com Then simple set envelope_from =yes set reverse_name=yes alternates m...@foo.bar|defa...@email.bar should be enough. well it's not here :-( But usually this is not the good way because you surely don't want your realname, signature to be identical to default in general. So I would suggest you to use reply-hook. Notice don't forget to set default reply-hook at first. I put reply-hook . 'unmy_hdr From:' reply-hook '~t m...@foo.bar' 'my_hdr From: m...@foo.bar' and it still doesn't work as expected... One thing more about the alternates: you should set your mta to be aware of m...@foo.bar. I have only had experience on msmtp and if m...@foobar is not an independent accout in msmtprc then msmtp will use the default account in msmtp to send the mail out. I use esmtp and I don't have any information regarding my addresses. Maybe that's the problem (but I doubt). In any case, thank you for your help Peng. Steve
Re: set From: based on To:
Le 17-03-2010, à 09:51:24 -0400, Patrick Shanahan (ptilopt...@gmail.com) a écrit : * steve dl...@bluewin.ch [03-17-10 09:14]: I receive an email with: From: a...@example.com To: m...@foo.bar (I don't have any special settings for a...@example.com) I hit 'r' and I get: From: defa...@email.bar To: a...@example.com but I would like to have: From: m...@foo.bar To: a...@example.com How can I do this? Should I use a reply-hook? reverse_name? I'm a bit confused here. I would choose, send-hook, but from TFM: Why use send-hook when it's only for replying to messages? When I'm in my default inbox and I hit 'm', I get the correct address. What if you send a *new* message to a...@example.com? If I'm in inbox, the From: header is correct. What do you mean in my default inbox? It's the folder where all non-sorted (by procmail) goes. If you send me a private email it will go there. My first idea was something like : reply-hook '~t ^...@foo.bar$ 'set from=m...@foo.bar' if it is *to* you, set from *you* ??? Perhaps I'm not reading that reply-hook correctly. I read: (sorry for the english, it's not my mother tongue, as you probably noticed it) For each mail addressed to m...@foo.bar, set the From header to m...@foo.bar when replying to it. reply-hook '^...@foo\.bar$ set from=m...@foo.bar' Mutt tells me that there is a syntax error; it doesn't complain anymore with the following line: reply-hook '^...@foo\.bar$' 'set from=m...@foo.bar' But anyway, it doesn't do what is expected. but this doesn't work, I still get my default address in the From: header. And if it worked, I then should have to add as many lines as email addresses I have, only changing me1 with me2 and so forth, and this seems strange to me. Then I tried: reply-hook '~t^...@foo.bar$' 'my_hdr From: m...@foo.bar' reply-hook '~t m...@foo\.barr my_hdr From: m...@foo.bar' Sorry for the misspelling, but doesn't work either. same thing. I'm missing something but I don't know what. As I said earlier, I would use send-hook: send-hook . unmy_hdr From: send-hook me 'my_hdr From: your perferred default' send-hook m...@foo.bar set from=m...@foo.bar send-hook m...@foo.bar 'my_hdr From: m...@foo.bar' Ok I tried that (I don't really understand why the two last lines are needed *together*, but that's beside the point now) and still the same. Thank you for your help, but as Rado said in another message, I guess I've got a messed up configuration and I should figure out why (I'm sure it's not mutt's fault). I'm trying to fine-tune my configuration with several files in which I source other file(s) and surely I've missed lots of mutt's finesse (in french)... this one issue is already a long-lasting one, and I'm lacking energy and time to start the whole thing from the beginning (but I should, I know). Once more, thanks alot for your help! I love mutt, it's great, I'd love to master it totally (yes I also have strange dreams...:-)), but unfortunately I'm far from it :-( s.
Re: Fastmail Drafts folder not visible
On Jan 27 08:56 +0100, Kirill Miazine wrote: [...] Oh, I also notice that you set imap_list_subscribed. Can you unset it and see if Drafts appears then? OK, that was it. I had set imap_check_subscribed=yes set imap_list_subscribed=yes set my_fastmail=imaps://mail.messagingengine.com:992 account-hook $my_fastmail set imap_user=$my_user_imap_fastmail \ imap_pass=$my_pass_imap_fastmail folder-hook $my_fastmail set spoolfile=$my_fastmail \ folder=$my_fastmail record=+'Sent Items' postponed=+Drafts \ trash=+Trash Here, $imap_check_subscribed would get all folder names from the server for me. Nice. I don't have to list them all one by one in mailboxes. If I explicitly add $my_fastmail/Drafts to mailboxes, I see the folder. Apparently, the server considers me not subscribed to Drafts and therefore doesn't tell Mutt about that. [...] Ok. Regarding aliases - I'm not aware of how to add aliases for accounts. I'm using one Mutt with one IMAP account, but I'm running two instances of Mutt in separate tmux/screen windows. The mutts share some basic configuration and have an account-specific configuration file that define account-specific settings and hooks: alias cl-mutt '/usr/local/bin/mutt -e source ~/.mutt/muttrc-cl' alias km-mutt '/usr/local/bin/mutt -e source ~/.mutt/muttrc-km' But you also see the full URL of each folder in the folder browser? That's no big deal, just curious. Thank you for your help. best, Steve
Fastmail Drafts folder not visible
I noticed that some people on the list are Fastmail users, so someone might have some tips. First, my muttrc part for fastmail IMAP: set imap_passive=no set my_fastmail=imaps://mail.messagingengine.com set imap_check_subscribed=yes set imap_list_subscribed=yes mailboxes $my_fastmail account-hook $my_fastmail \ set imap_user=$my_user_imap_fastmail \ imap_pass=$my_pass_imap_fastmail folder-hook $my_fastmail \ set spoolfile=$my_fastmail/INBOX \ folder=$my_fastmail/INBOX \ record=+'Sent Items' \ postponed=+Drafts \ trash=+Trash In the folder browser, all folders are listed *except* for +Drafts: imaps://mail.messagingengine.com imaps://mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX imaps://mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX.Trash imaps://mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX.Sent Items imaps://mail.messagingengine.com/INBOX.work When I postpone a message, it gets uploaded to fastmail and I can see the message in the web interface, where the Drafts folder is visible. It's just that it is not listed in Mutt. Thanks for all hints. best, Steve
