John Buttery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(Sorry, that it took quite a while for me to reply -- I'm always slow
on these things...)
Well, here's my two cents for you to add to the stuff you're reading
up on.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it. :-)
I encrypt every message I can (which isn't
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter
would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects
in depth, IIRC.
We even had that whole discussion here a while back.
On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 01:17:10PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One more question popped in my mind; when GnuPG automagicly fetches
a key of some person and verifies it, it goes to the key list (I mean,
that I can check it out with 'gpg --list-keys'). Does this mean, that
it is signed? If
Jussi --
...and then Jussi Ekholm said...
%
% David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
%
% ...and then Shawn McMahon said...
% If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter
% would be a big no-no. The gpg and pgp documention goes into these subjects
...
%
% One more
24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of that here,
don't we? ;)
I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the correct accent
- in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most Scandinavian
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 09:10:11AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In and English accent (particularly Canadian/American) it /may/ sound
feminine... but you should never assume that just because in your phonetics, a
name sounds feminine, that it is. Indeed, never assume at all that you can
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 21:09:42 +0200]:
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply
heretics.
Oh, you
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
And to point out -- 'sed s/her/his/g'. ;-)
You're a guy? Oooops! Sorry.
Your name just sounds so feminine.
Hehe, no problem. :-) And I could take the lower line as a compliment,
I guess.
But yeah, this is going
Shawn, et al --
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%
...
% from me in lots of fora, all signed, then you may consider my identity
% established enough for your purposes, and choose to local-sign my key, and
...
% If you do that, make sure you local-sign, not sign for export. The latter
% would
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Alas! Simon White spake thus:
24-Mar-02 at 22:37, Rob 'Feztaa' Park ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot of
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Alas! John Buttery spake thus:
Oh, and of course I also sign just to keep Rob from forging my email.
:)
Rats! Foiled again! :)
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
* thus spaketh Rob 'Feztaa' Park (Mar 25 at 12:31PM):
I don't know that I can let you get away with that. Said in the
correct accent - in fact, one of German, Switzerdutch, and most
Scandinavian accents, Jussi sounds reasonably masculine to me.
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me,
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly
% female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
You've never heard of Jesse Ventura or Jesse James, just for starters?
Sure, they're both American, but one is quite
Alas! tim lupfer spake thus:
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a
decidedly female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named
Jessy ;)
but does canada _really_ count? nah. go play with an elk :P
Oh, _that_'s mature...
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Rob --
...and then Feztaa said...
%
% Alas! David T-G spake thus:
% % Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly
% % female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
%
% You've never heard of Jesse Ventura or Jesse James, just for starters?
%
%
begin quoting what Rob 'Feztaa' Park said on Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 12:31:36PM -0700:
Well, it sounds an awful lot like Jessy to me, which is a decidedly
female name in Canada. I've never heard of a man named Jessy ;)
Jesse Owens. Jesse Ventura.
Insist on the same spelling? Ok. Jessy
Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn McMahon wrote:
If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing
all of my emails to /dev/null.
the issue wasn't a personal accusation. you're welcome to sign (or not
sign) your emails as you wish.
in any event, the
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13:01:00 +0200]:
I'd just like to hear, why signing PGP for mails going to mailing lists
is not so wanted thing to do? And yes, I agree 100% - let's not start a
flamewar or anything. The whole thing is, that I'm a newbie to the whole
Pretty Good
Nicolas Rachinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13:01:00 +0200]:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
If you didn't want to start a flamewar, I'm fear, you asked the wrong
question ;-)
Well, that wasn't my intention at all
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply
heretics.
Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;)
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
BOFH excuse #178:
Short
Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
But yeah - what is so bad in PGP signed mails in mailing lists?
There is nothing wrong -- the people who say it is wrong are simply
heretics.
Oh, you _didn't_ want to start a flamewar? Oops... ;)
LOL! Well, maybe
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:09:42PM +0200:
Ah well, I've decided not to use signed mails in mailing lists if
there isn't any reason for me to do it. What matters, is, that PGP
works with my Mutt - whole other thing is, if I use it... ;-)
The same reasons
Moin,
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 20:14]:
The same reasons for doing so in private mail apply to lists.
The same reasons for not doing so in lists apply to private mail.
There are several things different between broadcasts and
point-to-point connection, as you sure know.
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The same reasons for doing so in private mail apply to lists.
The same reasons for not doing so in lists apply to private mail.
Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people
with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100:
There are several things different between broadcasts and
point-to-point connection, as you sure know.
Yes. For instance, there are far more people who would be impacted by
a forgery. There are also far more
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200:
Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people
with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected
more appropriate place for testing it for the first time); or would
I get a
Hi,
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 20:34]:
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:26:53PM +0100:
There are several things different between broadcasts and
point-to-point connection, as you sure know.
Yes. For instance, there are far more people who
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 08:47:42PM +0100:
I take it from this that you are in fact not interested in a
discussion, but in a flame war. Have fun!
I'm sorry, if you'll point out which of my statements was personally
insulting to you, I'll be glad to
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I didn't say I'm not going to use it. I will, that's for sure.
Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand
the thought of having to sign all my messages! I'm deleting gnupg as we
speak!
Oh yeah, and I hate everybody on
* Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-03-24 13:53:18 -0700]:
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I didn't say I'm not going to use it. I will, that's for sure.
Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand
the thought of having to sign all my messages!
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:53:18PM -0700:
So long, suckers.
You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-)
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Rob 'Feztaa' Park [EMAIL PROTECTED], I guess?
Yeah. I didn't cover anything like my message id's up, I didn't want to
get too elaborate. I was just making a point that mail can be spoofed
and signing your messages prevents this :)
--
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Sometimes I wonder
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Alas! Shawn McMahon spake thus:
So long, suckers.
=20
You're an evil bastard, Fezta. :-)
;D
--=20
Rob 'Feztaa' Park
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
What is a magician
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 09:31:06PM +0200:
Yes, I know. At least this proves, that I managed to upset people
with my child walk of PGP signatures (I agree, I should've selected
more appropriate place for testing it for the first time);
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nah, on second thought I don't think I ever will. In fact, I can't stand
the thought of having to sign all my messages! I'm deleting gnupg as we
speak!
Oh yeah, and I hate everybody on this list. You're all a bunch of
assholes! I'm going to unsub as
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And this demonstrates exactly why you ought to sign all of your
messages, ESPECIALLY if it's to a public list. Had Jussi been in the
habit of signing all her messages, people would have noticed that this
message wasn't signed, and immediately questioned
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Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
LOL Rob (I presume?)!=20
Yeah that was me ;)
Well yeah, I really am on the verge of should I or should I not.
Next time, the
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Alas! Jussi Ekholm spake thus:
And to point out -- 'sed s/her/his/g'. ;-)
You're a guy? Oooops! Sorry.
Your name just sounds so feminine. We seem to get a lot
Hi!
I'm using CVS Mutt 1.5.0i, and I was just recently introduced to PGP
and now I'd like to assign Mutt to sign all of my outgoing mails with
my personal key... I've read the manual, I've read PGP man pages and
instructions, but I just can't figure what to put in:
set pgp_sign_command=
Any
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi!
I'm using CVS Mutt 1.5.0i, and I was just recently introduced to PGP
and now I'd like to assign Mutt to sign all of my outgoing mails with
my personal key... I've read the manual, I've read PGP man pages and
instructions, but I just can't figure
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200:
Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that the following
data is signed and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly
after all? :-)
No, you're not. Look at the contents of your mail in
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jussi Ekholm said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 11:48:28PM +0200:
Umm... as I saw my mail posted here, Mutt told me that the following
data is signed and all the other PGP stuff. So - am I doing it correctly
after all? :-)
No, you're not. Look at the
Shawn McMahon wrote:
I suggest you make use of one of the many sample files to be found on
the web. The links at mutt.org will take you to several, or a simple
Google search will turn up dozens more.
there are also sample files that come with the mutt distribution; what's
wrong with those?
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800:
and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many
believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a
public mailing list most of the time.
Many believe the Earth is
Shawn McMahon wrote:
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at
02:32:41PM -0800:
and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but
many believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign
posts to a public mailing list most of the time.
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suggest you make use of one of the many sample files to be found on the
web. The links at mutt.org will take you to several, or a simple Google
search will turn up dozens more.
I will, thank you. And I already
Moin,
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 00:03]:
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 02:32:41PM -0800:
and hopefully this won't set off a long discussion (yet again), but many
believe that it's generally silly (and unnecessary) to sign posts to a
public
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 12:47:14AM +0100:
If you object to my signatures, procmail is easily capable of routing all
of my emails to /dev/null.
I don't use Procmail. What now?
The Lord helps those who help themselves.
msg25951/pgp0.pgp
Jussi Ekholm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was just wondering if it looks ok now? At least the test message I sent
to myself gave a positive result...
I am *very* sorry to post these test messages on a public, and high
traffic mailing list; my excuse is, that I'll do it just this once...
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:52:56AM +0200:
ARGH! Of course I forgot to sign it. :-/ As I said, I am very, very
sorry for all the inconvenience and waste of bandwith from my behalf.
I hope I doesn't end up in everyone's killfile... trying to learn
Hi,
* Shawn McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-03-24 00:59]:
begin quoting what Jussi Ekholm said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:52:56AM +0200:
ARGH! Of course I forgot to sign it. :-/ As I said, I am very, very
sorry for all the inconvenience and waste of bandwith from my behalf.
I hope I doesn't
begin quoting what Thorsten Haude said on Sun, Mar 24, 2002 at 01:23:57AM +0100:
Let's not forget that your key is worthless unless signed by somebody
we know already.
Not entirely worthless. For instance, if you receive lots of emails
from me in lots of fora, all signed, then you may
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