On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:43:30AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
I think what you suggest -- an manual 'msmtp-queue -r' as needed -- is
more than ample for my use case. For that matter, in most instances I
don't even mind waiting until I send another email which will achieve
the same
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:39:10PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
On 21/02/14 10:25AM, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 01:10:41AM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
On 21/02/13 08:03PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of both
worlds :)
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 06:39:10PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
msmtp-queue -r -- runs (flushes) all the contents of the queue
Try running 'msmtp-queue -r' at your shell. It should trigger sending.
Adding 'msmtp-queue -r' as a cron job should do it automatically.
So it sounds like I wasn't
On 21/02/14 10:25AM, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 01:10:41AM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
On 21/02/13 08:03PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of both
worlds :)
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 10:25:21AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
> msmtp-queue -r -- runs (flushes) all the contents of the queue
>
> Try running 'msmtp-queue -r' at your shell. It should trigger sending.
>
> Adding 'msmtp-queue -r' as a cron job should do it automatically.
Exactly. If you
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 01:10:41AM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
On 21/02/13 08:03PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of both
worlds :)
https://git.marlam.de/gitweb/?p=msmtp.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/msmtpq/README.msmtpq;hb=HEAD
Is there an
On 21/02/13 08:03PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
I did the same myself for years and also switched to ssmtp. But I
belive ssmtp was discontinued, and now I'm using msmtp:
https://marlam.de/msmtp/
I couldn't be happier!
A queue
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 02:43:32AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
>On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 02:35:38AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
>>On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 08:03:49PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 02:35:38AM +0100, myself wrote:
And I am, since I'm sending this through the msmtp queue. Yay!
I'm replying to myself to add: send is super-fast now, instant
actually, from Mutt! I love it!
Cheers,
Ángel
On 21/02/14 10:52AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 12Feb2021 23:20, boB Stepp wrote:
something I like working with notmuch. I wish I could use notmuch's tagging
capabilities from within Mutt in the sense of adding multiple tags to a single
email or a set of tagged emails. But the only example
On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 08:03:49PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
I couldn't be happier!
A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of both
worlds :)
You proved me wrong: I could be happier!
And I am, since
On 21/02/13 08:03PM, Sam Kuper wrote:
A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of both
worlds :)
https://git.marlam.de/gitweb/?p=msmtp.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/msmtpq/README.msmtpq;hb=HEAD
Thanks for this link!
--
Wishing you only the best,
boB Stepp
On Sun, Feb 14, 2021 at 11:00:45AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 13Feb2021 20:03, Sam Kuper wrote:
>> A queue script is included with msmtp, so you can have the best of
>> both worlds :)
>>
>> https://git.marlam.de/gitweb/?p=msmtp.git;a=blob_plain;f=scripts/msmtpq/README.msmtpq;hb=HEAD
>
>
On 13Feb2021 20:03, Sam Kuper wrote:
>On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:34:47PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>> I maintained a local queueing MTA for many years, but after multiple
>>> screwups where mail wasn't getting sent (and I
On 12Feb2021 23:25, boB Stepp wrote:
>On 21/02/13 08:01AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>I pull everything from my c...@cskk.id.au inbox, deleting it. But my
>>mail
>>filing forwards a suite of messages to a separate account which is for
>>my phone. So anything important sends a copy back out to the
On 12Feb2021 23:20, boB Stepp wrote:
>>Then tag messages in you inbox and ";s+folder" to move them in
>>batches.
>>Here I mean mutt's (t)ag keystroke, an in memory flag. Emphemeral, used
>>entirely to do mutt things to an ad hoc batch of messages.
>
>Yeah, I just was playing around with this
On 12Feb2021 23:20, boB Stepp wrote:
>Yeah, I think you have. I have kept those earlier emails from you
>nicely
>flagged in my inbox for reference. Currently I am trying to see if I can get
>something I like working with notmuch. I wish I could use notmuch's tagging
>capabilities from within
On 12Feb2021 22:53, boB Stepp wrote:
>On 21/02/13 08:11AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>I would guess your PC does not have a mail system installed. So cron
>>cannot deliver the cron job output by email.
>
>I was aware that a cron job could email its output, but I thought I would have
>to explicitly
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 01:30:04PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:34:47PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> I maintained a local queueing MTA for many years, but after multiple
>> screwups where mail wasn't getting sent (and I didn't find out in a
>> timely manner) I
On 21/02/13 08:01AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 01Feb2021 03:32, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
12021/00/30 09:27.95 ನಲ್ಲಿ, boB Stepp ಬರೆದರು:
2) I would like to remove all email storage from the cloud, that is,
whether Gmail or ProtonMail, once I have my mail on my local PC I want to
delete it from
On 21/02/13 07:56AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 31Jan2021 21:16, boB Stepp wrote:
1) I eventually want to migrate all of my Gmail to ProtonMail. I will
probably never entirely get rid of Gmail. For one thing it makes a good
honey pot for when I must supply an email, but do not want to give
On 21/02/13 08:11AM, Cameron Simpson wrote:
On 08Feb2021 14:43, boB Stepp wrote:
So I changed the command to:
mbsync -a -qq
and everything has been working. I was curious as to what would happen at
3 AM when my router would reboot. I got:
Feb 8 03:00:01 Dream-Machine1 CRON[614314]: (bob)
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 10:20:09PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 05:09:36PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> >> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> >> >>> as I would have to be monitoring the logs to make sure the e-mail
> >> >>> was
On 01Feb2021 16:03, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
> sending emails might well be time-sensitive, and I _need_ to know
> that it went through (or get immediate feedback if it fails).
So let's be clear: If you have time-sensitive communications that
need to be delivered immediately, reliably, you should
On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 05:09:36PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
>> >>> as I would have to be monitoring the logs to make sure the e-mail
>> >>> was actually sent.
>> >>
>> >> You do (or you need to make sure that you
On 01Feb2021 16:03, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
>I tend to think similarly. It's okay if receiving emails is a bit
>delayed or runs into problems, but sending emails might well be
>time-sensitive, and I _need_ to know that it went through (or get
>immediate feedback if it fails).
If it didn't leave
On 08Feb2021 14:43, boB Stepp wrote:
>So I changed the command to:
>
>mbsync -a -qq
>
>and everything has been working. I was curious as to what would happen at
>3 AM when my router would reboot. I got:
>
>Feb 8 03:00:01 Dream-Machine1 CRON[614314]: (bob) CMD (mbsync -a -qq )
>Feb 8 03:00:24
On 01Feb2021 03:32, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
>12021/00/30 09:27.95 ನಲ್ಲಿ, boB Stepp ಬರೆದರು:
>> 2) I would like to remove all email storage from the cloud, that is,
>> whether Gmail or ProtonMail, once I have my mail on my local PC I want to
>> delete it from those accounts. What would be the best
On 31Jan2021 21:16, boB Stepp wrote:
>1) I eventually want to migrate all of my Gmail to ProtonMail. I will
>probably never entirely get rid of Gmail. For one thing it makes a good
>honey pot for when I must supply an email, but do not want to give out my
>preferred email.
Might I suggest
On Fri, Feb 12, 2021 at 05:09:36PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
> >>> as I would have to be monitoring the logs to make sure the e-mail
> >>> was actually sent.
> >>
> >> You do (or you need to make sure that you receive bounce/retry/failure
> >> notices
On 2021-02-12, Derek Martin wrote:
>
>>> as I would have to be monitoring the logs to make sure the e-mail
>>> was actually sent.
>>
>> You do (or you need to make sure that you receive bounce/retry/failure
>> notices properly).
>
> You don't... every major MTA has a tool for monitoring the
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:34:47PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-02-01, José María Mateos wrote:
> > I was thinking about this. I have offlineimap running, so I have a
> > local copy of all my mail, but the SMTP connection still goes
> > through my mail provider, not locally. While I can
On 21/02/12 01:40PM, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 02:43:48PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
killall mbsync &>/dev/null; /usr/bin/mbsync -a -qq
Maybe it's an stupid idea, but perhaps mbsync is starting to run so fast
that the killall kills it? You could try replacing the semicolon
On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 06:51:33AM -0500, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
* * * * * flock -nx ~/.mbsync-lock-fast mbsync google-fast-cycle
*/5 * * * * flock -nx ~/.mbsync-lock-medium mbsync google-medium-cycle
*/15 * * * * flock -nx ~/.mbsync-lock-slow mbsync google-slow-cycle
I do the same, but
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 02:43:48PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
killall mbsync &>/dev/null; /usr/bin/mbsync -a -qq
Maybe it's an stupid idea, but perhaps mbsync is starting to run so fast
that the killall kills it? You could try replacing the semicolon wich a
couple of ampersand signs to make
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:34:47PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
I maintained a local queueing MTA for many years, but after multiple
screwups where mail wasn't getting sent (and I didn't find out in a
timely manner) I switched to a non-queueing MTA (e.g. ssmtp) and later
to mutt's SMTP support.
On 21/02/11 06:51AM, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote:
I recently revamped my mbsync crontab jobs, and now have three
separate jobs (fast, medium, and slow). I used an article about
converting from offlineimap to mbsync [1] as inspiration.
[1]:
* boB Stepp [2021-02-08 15:44 -0500]:
...
I have setup a crontab job (My first ever!) to run mbsync every five
minutes. Mutt checks the local mail much more frequently. Probably
should make this a similar time interval to the crontab interval. I
was concerned that if there were to be a
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 02:43:48PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
> Today's task is to understand and install/configure "notmuch" to
> search through this locally stored mail.
Notmuch is quite nice in some ways, but (as Dan Bernstein kindly pointed
out to me a couple of years ago), it probably isn't
I thought I would update folks on what I have done and solicit feedback as
indicated.
On 21/01/31 09:16PM, boB Stepp wrote:
1) I eventually want to migrate all of my Gmail to ProtonMail. I will
probably never entirely get rid of Gmail...
Based on previous advice here I am in the process of
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 10:04:50PM -0600, boB Stepp wrote:
> 1) Mutt erratically loses connection with Gmail and I have to
> manually reconnect. Sometimes this happens rather frequently as in
> multiple instances within an hour. I am confident it is not my
> Internet connection, which is
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 04:34:47PM -, Grant Edwards wrote:
If you set up your local MTA properly, yes. However, that's not
trivial. I maintained a local queueing MTA for many years, but after
multiple screwups where mail wasn't getting sent (and I didn't find
out in a timely manner) I
On 2021-02-01, José María Mateos wrote:
> I was thinking about this. I have offlineimap running, so I have a
> local copy of all my mail, but the SMTP connection still goes
> through my mail provider, not locally. While I can appreciate the
> increase in speed that a local rely can offer, I
12021/00/31 04:49.41 ನಲ್ಲಿ, José María Mateos ಬರೆದರು:
>
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 06:32:41AM -0800, Andrew Marks wrote:
> >Primarily speed, not waiting for mutt to establish an SMTP connection
> >and authenticate to a remote MTA. The mail is sent to the local MTA
> >instantly, and the local MTA
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 06:32:41AM -0800, Andrew Marks wrote:
Primarily speed, not waiting for mutt to establish an SMTP connection
and authenticate to a remote MTA. The mail is sent to the local MTA
instantly, and the local MTA is working to relay the mail appropriately
while I continue working
On Mon, Feb 01, 2021 at 06:32:41AM -0800, Andrew Marks wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 09:06:23AM +0100, Claus Assmann wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, Chinmaya Nagpal wrote:
> >
> > > I have a similar setup as yours, except I use the built-in SMTP. What
> > > advantages are there to using an
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021 at 09:06:23AM +0100, Claus Assmann wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, Chinmaya Nagpal wrote:
>
> > I have a similar setup as yours, except I use the built-in SMTP. What
> > advantages are there to using an external sendmail program?
Primarily speed, not waiting for mutt to
12021/00/30 09:27.95 ನಲ್ಲಿ, boB Stepp ಬರೆದರು:
*snip*
>
> 1) I eventually want to migrate all of my Gmail to ProtonMail. I will
> probably never entirely get rid of Gmail. For one thing it makes a good
> honey pot for when I must supply an email, but do not want to give out my
> preferred
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 07:44:52AM -0800, Andrew Marks wrote:
1) Mutt erratically loses connection with Gmail and I have to
manually reconnect. Sometimes this happens rather frequently as in
multiple instances within an hour. I am confident it is not my
Internet connection, which is normally
On Sun, Jan 31, 2021, Chinmaya Nagpal wrote:
> I have a similar setup as yours, except I use the built-in SMTP. What
> advantages are there to using an external sendmail program?
Queueing.
On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 07:44:52AM -0800, Andrew Marks wrote:
> I'd recommend using an separate IMAP-maildir sync tool like
> isync/mbsync. (https://isync.sourceforge.io). Waiting for IMAP (and even
> SMTP) operations in mutt is slow (not because of mutt, but because you
> are waiting for network
> 1) Mutt erratically loses connection with Gmail and I have to
> manually reconnect. Sometimes this happens rather frequently as in
> multiple instances within an hour. I am confident it is not my
> Internet connection, which is normally quite stable and fast. For
> instance my streaming
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 08:40:25PM -0800, Felix Finch wrote:
On 20210124, boB Stepp wrote:
1) Mutt erratically loses connection with Gmail and I have to manually
reconnect. Sometimes this happens rather frequently as in multiple instances
within an hour. I am confident it is not my
On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 11:46 PM ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
> I wrote up a blog post a while back on dealing with multiple inboxes in Mutt
> (in fact, I'm writing this from Mutt and sending it through ProtonMail, so it
> *is* possible!):
>
On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 09:07:29PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> On 24Jan2021 22:04, boB Stepp wrote:
> >5) I am able to view HTML emails via w3c, but I get weekly (and some
> >daily) emails from news aggregation services like Pycoders Weekly,
> >TLDR, etc., that have embedded links that never
On 24Jan2021 22:04, boB Stepp wrote:
>5) I am able to view HTML emails via w3c, but I get weekly (and some
>daily) emails from news aggregation services like Pycoders Weekly,
>TLDR, etc., that have embedded links that never show up in the w3c
>display.
I'm using "lynx -stdin -dump"; you could
Hi boB,
I wrote up a blog post a while back on dealing with multiple inboxes in Mutt
(in fact, I'm writing this from Mutt and sending it through ProtonMail, so it
*is* possible!):
https://chiraag.me/blog/2019/08/21/managing-multiple-email-accounts-with-mutt-and-fetchmail/
My setup involves
On 20210124, boB Stepp wrote:
1) Mutt erratically loses connection with Gmail and I have to manually
reconnect. Sometimes this happens rather frequently as in multiple instances
within an hour. I am confident it is not my Internet connection, which is
normally quite stable and fast. For
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