Re: Licence question

2003-12-10 Thread Zak Greant
Good Day All, Let me attempt to provide some clarity on this issues (though it is important to note that I am not a lawyer or a judge.) The fundaments of the GPL are easy to understand. The GPL operates within standard copyright law. Under copyright law[0], the copyright holder has a bundle of

Re: Licence question

2003-12-08 Thread Ivan Cukic (Foment)
Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites non-commercial? (since I use mySQL as my main DBMS) This was sarcastic, not real question aiming the next sentence MySQL You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to

Re: Licence question

2003-12-07 Thread Ivan Cukic (Foment)
You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites

Re: Licence question

2003-12-07 Thread Kaarel
You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites

Re: Licence question

2003-12-07 Thread Kaarel
You need a license if you sell a product designed specifically for use with MySQL or that requires the MySQL server to function at all. This is true whether or not you provide MySQL for your client as part of your product distribution. Does this mean that I must make all of my web sites

Re: Licence question

2003-12-07 Thread Yves Goergen
So this is getting really confusing now... I have two quite explicit questions to this and I hope there are some experts listening on this list who can answer them. (1) I want to start a (small, non-free) webhosting service and offer webspace with PHP support and a MySQL database account. There

Re: Licence question

2003-12-07 Thread Chuck Gadd
Yves Goergen wrote: (1) I want to start a (small, non-free) webhosting service and offer webspace with PHP support and a MySQL database account. There will be some standard tariffs that include a database account but I'm going to make them available as extra upgrade, too, for a monthly fee. Do I

Re: Licence question

2003-12-05 Thread Ivan Cukic
Ivan Cukic wrote: 1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute 3. Commercial use for everyone else Strange thing: How can SUSE redistribute mySQL when it is not 100% GPL? (It has MPL, ... also, beside commercial programs) Ivan -- MySQL

Re: Licence question

2003-12-04 Thread Ivan Cukic
1. Free use for those who are 100% GPL 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or distribute 3. Commercial use for everyone else OK. But 2nd statement is not taken from GPL. Example: SUSE ships non GPL programs such as StarOffice (not OpenOffice), SUN ships Java etc. in it's Linux... This

RE: Licence question

2003-12-04 Thread Stéphane Bischoff
. 2 - the product does not use MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. This is what is bugging me, can you help ? thank you, -Original Message- From: Ron Albright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 3 décembre, 2003 18:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Licence question At 01:26 PM 12/3

Re: Licence question

2003-12-04 Thread Roger Baklund
* Stéphane Bischoff Thank you for all your response, but my question is very simple : Example : We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. (Don't ask me how, I

RE: Licence question

2003-12-04 Thread Jan Magnusson
' Cc: MySQL (E-mail) Subject: RE: Licence question Thank you for all your response, but my question is very simple : Example : We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect

Re: Licence question

2003-12-04 Thread Kaarel
We have company 1 that make's a product that communicate with MySQL server using TCP/IP. This product (company 1) does not use the MySQL client to connect to MySQL server. (Don't ask me how, I don't know) (By the way, this product really exist, that is why I am asking this question). Therefore,

Licence question

2003-12-03 Thread Stéphane Bischoff
Hi, We are programming a Delphi application that interacts with the MySQL server from Windows. Normally we would need a client side licence ? But if we use a set of components (from a third party) that allow us to interact with the MySQL server without using the MySQL client. In this case, do

Re: Licence question

2003-12-03 Thread Chuck Gadd
Stéphane Bischoff wrote: We are programming a Delphi application that interacts with the MySQL server from Windows. Normally we would need a client side licence ? But if we use a set of components (from a third party) that allow us to interact with the MySQL server without using the MySQL

Re: Licence question

2003-12-03 Thread Ivan Cukic
If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a Mysql AB employee during the

Re: Licence question

2003-12-03 Thread mos
At 03:55 PM 12/3/2003, you wrote: If you were to simply download and install MySQL at your company office, then write apps for in-house use at your company, then you have no license issues. Your apps would not need to be GPL, and you do not need a Mysql commercial license. This was discussed by a

Re: Licence question

2003-12-03 Thread Ron Albright
At 01:26 PM 12/3/2003, Chuck Gadd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is your standard I am not a lawyer type answer, because reading the text of the GPL can be overwhelming, but the way I understand it, if you are shipping MySql with your app, then you've either got to release your app under the GPL,

RE: Licence question

2003-12-03 Thread Mike Brando
Ron Albright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is somewhat ambiguous. From the statements below it would appear to me that you can ship MySQL with an application as long as the your application does not directly link to the MySQL libraries as would be the case if embedded. But mere