Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-20 Thread Blammo
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:38:16 -0700, Blammo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: btw, I have an open thread on the MythDev list about the XvMC / Pause / Prebuffering problem. If you can add backtraces / data to that thread, it might help resolve the master issue this email started under. For what it

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-16 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0700, Blammo wrote: [bold] MythTV lets you choose any form of deinterlacing you want. XvMC or not. However, chosing anything OTHER than BOB will make your life a living hell. BOB seems to be about the only deinterlacer smart enough not to go ape on

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-16 Thread Isaac Richards
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:23 am, Brad Templeton wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0700, Blammo wrote: [bold] MythTV lets you choose any form of deinterlacing you want. XvMC or not. However, chosing anything OTHER than BOB will make your life a living hell. BOB seems to

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-16 Thread Blammo
I On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:30:38 -0500, Isaac Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 16 February 2005 03:23 am, Brad Templeton wrote: On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:38:16PM -0700, Blammo wrote: [bold] MythTV lets you choose any form of deinterlacing you want. XvMC or not. However,

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-15 Thread Cory Papenfuss
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Brian Foddy wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 05:08 am, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Unfortunately, my little-old P3 can just barely do HD with XvMC, that's why I need it; otherwise I'd try and live without it. Brian So a P3 is capable of doing HD if you're using XvMC? I thought

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-15 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Brad Templeton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top can be misleading with HT. But my machine is also HT and it's only 60% idle, not 80%. And it's faster. Do you have dual channel RAM? Can that be making this big a difference? Can your video card be that much faster? Could Mandrake be doing

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-15 Thread Blammo
I run a P3-1400 Tulatin (slightly more cache than normal). The machine has 4 tuner cards, 3-PVR250's and 1 Air2pc. 768MB ram, Nvidia 5600, 4 SCSI (10K, 80MB/sec) disks in software raid 0. It is able to record all 4 streams and play the HD stream at the same time (frontend/backend).

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-15 Thread Brian Foddy
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 05:01 am, Cory Papenfuss wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Brian Foddy wrote: On Monday 14 February 2005 05:08 am, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Unfortunately, my little-old P3 can just barely do HD with XvMC, that's why I need it; otherwise I'd try and live without it.

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-15 Thread Brian Foddy
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:29 am, Blammo wrote: I run a P3-1400 Tulatin (slightly more cache than normal). The machine has 4 tuner cards, 3-PVR250's and 1 Air2pc. 768MB ram, Nvidia 5600, 4 SCSI (10K, 80MB/sec) disks in software raid 0. It is able to record all 4 streams and play

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-15 Thread Blammo
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:32 -0600, Brian Foddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:29 am, Blammo wrote: I run a P3-1400 Tulatin (slightly more cache than normal). The machine has 4 tuner cards, 3-PVR250's and 1 Air2pc. 768MB ram, Nvidia 5600, 4 SCSI (10K,

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-14 Thread Cory Papenfuss
Unfortunately, my little-old P3 can just barely do HD with XvMC, that's why I need it; otherwise I'd try and live without it. Brian So a P3 is capable of doing HD if you're using XvMC? I thought that even with XvMC it took a beefy machine. How fast of a P3 are you using? How much of an

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-14 Thread Tj
Brad Templeton wrote: Brad Templeton wrote: Luckily my machine is powerful enough withou XvMC, so I seldom use it. HDTV on my machine uses to be around 20%-25%, but now takes 30%-35% in 0.17. Abit high, but far from being a problem. What machine has numbers like that? Dual processor I

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-14 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 08:04:52PM +0800, Tj wrote: Brad Templeton wrote: Brad Templeton wrote: Luckily my machine is powerful enough withou XvMC, so I seldom use it. HDTV on my machine uses to be around 20%-25%, but now takes 30%-35% in 0.17. Abit high, but far from being a problem.

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-14 Thread Tj
Brad Templeton wrote: The 9th column in Top is the cpu usage for a particular process. Several processes are used in the playing of HD, most nobably the X server itself and then there is time spent in drivers that may not be allocated to a process. Is top accurate enough? X should be pretty

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-14 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 07:57:31AM +0800, Tj wrote: Brad Templeton wrote: The 9th column in Top is the cpu usage for a particular process. Several processes are used in the playing of HD, most nobably the X server itself and then there is time spent in drivers that may not be allocated to

Re: CPU Load ( was: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses )

2005-02-14 Thread Tj
Brad Templeton wrote: Nope, remember to play 1080i bobbed to 60 frames/second, you are pushing 500 megabytes/second of data into the card, on top of decoding it. That takes a good chunk of your CPU. Fast AGP is a must for that reason. And other stuff's going on. Would try that later. I need

Re: CPU Load ( was: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses )

2005-02-14 Thread Brad Templeton
On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 09:33:55AM +0800, Tj wrote: Brad Templeton wrote: If not wrong, mine is the northwood core.. Probably the older series are better? Seems unlikely. Mine's a Prescott with 800 mhz fsb to boot. Only 512k cache though. would make the system faster, it transfer data

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-14 Thread Brian Foddy
On Monday 14 February 2005 05:08 am, Cory Papenfuss wrote: Unfortunately, my little-old P3 can just barely do HD with XvMC, that's why I need it; otherwise I'd try and live without it. Brian So a P3 is capable of doing HD if you're using XvMC? I thought that even with XvMC it

[mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Brian Foddy
In .17 (and recent prior cvs) I am unable to use XvMC because if I pause a playback, when I unpause, the frontend goes into an infinite loop of 2005-02-13 18:54:51.151 prebuffering pause 2005-02-13 18:54:51.162 prebuffering pause 2005-02-13 18:54:51.173 prebuffering pause 2005-02-13 18:54:51.185

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Tj
Brian Foddy wrote: These same machines ran 0.16 fine for many months. The playback will be fine before hitting pause. If I turn off XvMC its fine. Both machines are using NVidia 6629 drivers on either 2.6.10 or 2.6.11rc3 kernels (Mandrake 10.0 / 10.1) I don't see anything in bugzilla. Is

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Brian Foddy
On Sunday 13 February 2005 07:29 pm, Tj wrote: Brian Foddy wrote: These same machines ran 0.16 fine for many months. The playback will be fine before hitting pause. If I turn off XvMC its fine. Both machines are using NVidia 6629 drivers on either 2.6.10 or 2.6.11rc3 kernels (Mandrake 10.0

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 09:29:33AM +0800, Tj wrote: I don't use XvMC much (as I couldn't get PiP), but I vaguely remember it works for me a while ago just before 0.17 is released. I am curious. What would you want PiP for in a hard disk video recorder system? I have always felt that, at

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Tj
Brad Templeton wrote: I am curious. What would you want PiP for in a hard disk video recorder system? I have always felt that, at least the way I I may be different from most people, I use Myth mainly because I want digital TV (analog reception is extrememly bad in my area with ghosting,

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Brad Templeton
On Mon, Feb 14, 2005 at 11:03:42AM +0800, Tj wrote: I can probably give at least 5 reasons why I still like live TV (probably more if I really sat down and think). Basically everybody has different needs. I for one do very few recordings (unless there's two shows I wanna watch clashing in

Re: [mythtv-users] XvMC and Prebuffering Pauses

2005-02-13 Thread Tj
Brad Templeton wrote: Yes, many people report xvmc problems in this sort of config. (I have the 5200.) However, not everybody gets them. You need to break into the houses of developers working on the xvmc/video playback and switch their hardware to something like your config... One reason I