Re: mpls over microwave

2015-02-06 Thread Donn Lasher
One more add: Properly engineered, fixed wireless links can have better-than-wireline availability. Two jobs ago, we had customer links with zero dropped packets in 5 years, which is outstanding compared to most copper-based services. Properly engineered, however, is the key. Make sure whom-ever

RE: mpls over microwave

2015-02-06 Thread Scott Weeks
-Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott Weeks Thanks everyone, I feel a lot more confident on this project after this discussion. I will be working with a comm engineer who'll be doing the various radio links. I just need to be sure he

Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I don't know how accurate it is, but here's a site that more plainly spells out upstream\peer\customer: https://radar.qrator.net/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net To:

BGP Update Report

2015-02-06 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 29-Jan-15 -to- 05-Feb-15 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS23752 272647 6.5%2198.8 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation,

The Cidr Report

2015-02-06 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 6 21:14:23 2015 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

RE: mpls over microwave

2015-02-06 Thread Tim Warnock
-Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott Weeks Sent: Saturday, 7 February 2015 5:26 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: mpls over microwave There is no choice in this situation. I get what I get and make it work. And, it is hard to

Looking for a Consolidated Communications (AS5742) contact

2015-02-06 Thread Chris Costa
Hoping to speak with a Consolidated Communications (AS5742) engineer regarding routing in Illinois region towards Gaikai (AS33353). Thanks, Chris Costa

Re: Looking for a Consolidated Communications (AS5742) contact

2015-02-06 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net This is the third or fourth request I've seen lately. I'm assuming they don't have anyone on here. Not necessarily. Some people reply privately, so as not to come out of the closet. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth

Re: Looking for a Consolidated Communications (AS5742) contact

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Yeah, but it's the same guy looking for the same people for the same issue. I know it sucks to have things not working right, but they're probably not here. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Jay Ashworth

Re: Looking for a Consolidated Communications (AS5742) contact

2015-02-06 Thread Chris Costa
Oops, sorry. Didn't think those other requests got through the moderator. :) On Feb 6, 2015 6:18 PM, Mike Hammett na...@ics-il.net wrote: Yeah, but it's the same guy looking for the same people for the same issue. I know it sucks to have things not working right, but they're probably not here.

Re: Looking for a Consolidated Communications (AS5742) contact

2015-02-06 Thread Mike Hammett
This is the third or fourth request I've seen lately. I'm assuming they don't have anyone on here. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Chris Costa ccosta92...@gmail.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Friday,

Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
We approach this in the following empirical manner. 1) Who is available to you easily and within the budget. 2) Where is the other side of the network connectivity consumers ? i.e. do you need good connectivity to Cable Network ? ATT Broadband ? Europe ? Mexico ? Latin America ? 3) What is

Re: Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Alex Wacker
With how many people cogent connects with, it is almost never a bad idea to have them in your mix. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Colton Conor colton.co...@gmail.com wrote: We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 6 Feb 2015, at 20:08, Ray Soucy wrote: An IDS tied into an internal RTBH setup to leverage uRPF filtering in hardware can be pretty effective at detecting and blocking the typical UDP attacks out there before they reach systems that don't handle that as gracefully (e.g. firewalls or host

RE: mpls over microwave

2015-02-06 Thread Naslund, Steve
I would try to recommend finding a microwave guy that knows IP. Quite a lot of them do now since most of their installs are IP traffic backhaul. Steven Naslund Chicago IL -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott Weeks Sent: Thursday, February

RE: Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Darden, Patrick
IPSes are like any security technology, they are only as good as their implementor/administrator. I've seen some installations just set up defaults and leave them that way without any maintenance nor much oversight of alarms. I've even seen some that do 0-day implementation of new signatures,

RE: mpls over microwave

2015-02-06 Thread Spyros Kakaroukas
Hey, We run few mpls links ( 7600s/3600s on the mpls side mostly ) over Ceragon wireless gear. Nothing too fancy, I just treat them as switches ( or even just cables for some boxes, not doing mac learning at all ). No issues whatsoever on the networking side. My thoughts and words are my

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 6 Feb 2015, at 21:27, Darden, Patrick wrote: I understand the whole argument against state, and dismiss it. One can 'dismiss' the speed of light in a vacuum or the Planck constant, but that doesn't exempt one from their constraints. --- Roland Dobbins

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Roland Dobbins
On 6 Feb 2015, at 23:23, Darden, Patrick wrote: And when your opinion is an acknowledged universal constant, I will tip my hat to you. It's been a constant for the last couple of decades - I can't count the number of times I've been involved in mitigating penny-ante DDoS attacks which

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Colin Johnston
Thought I would add Astaro IPS works great, great functionality and does prevent ddos and exploits. Colin

RE: Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Darden, Patrick
Auto-Update can cause problems. I take the stance that updates should be verified in a CERT or ISO first, before being operationalized. --p -Original Message- From: Colin Johnston [mailto:col...@gt86car.org.uk] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 10:46 AM To: Darden, Patrick Cc: Colin

Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT

2015-02-06 Thread Justin Wilson - MTIN
Cogent has been very good in my experience. They have some issues they need to work out, but are pretty solid. We have had some issues where they have said they are doing maintenance on such and such night and it comes a day early. We have also seen some routing weirdness when it comes to

Provider to Blend with Level3

2015-02-06 Thread Colton Conor
We have a network that is single homed with Level3 at this time in Dallas. They already have BGP and their own ASN and IP setup. Who would you recommend for a second provider in Dallas to blend with Level3? Assuming Level3 and this other provider would be the only two in the blend for a long time

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Ray Soucy
An IPS doesn't have to be in line. It can be something watching a tap and scripted to use something else to block traffic (e.g. hardware filtering options on a router that can handle it). An IDS tied into an internal RTBH setup to leverage uRPF filtering in hardware can be pretty effective at

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Joel Maslak
On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Roland Dobbins rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On 6 Feb 2015, at 0:38, Raymond Burkholder wrote: There must some sort of value in that? No - patch the servers. Patching servers protects against 0 Day attacks only. This does not protect against 0 day attacks,

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Patrick Tracanelli
Hello, On 06/02/2015, at 11:08, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote: An IPS doesn't have to be in line. AFAIK this is basically what defines an IPS. It can be something watching a tap and scripted to use something else to block traffic (e.g. hardware filtering options on a router that can

RE: Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Darden, Patrick
Absolutely. Valuable humans behind the tools will always provide better benefits than what vendors may generically sell/deliver.

Re: Dynamic routing on firewalls.

2015-02-06 Thread Doug Barton
On 2/6/15 8:39 AM, Bill Thompson wrote: You can fix a car with a swiss army knife, but why would you want to? Is it a metric swiss army knife?

RE: IPv6 allocation plan, security, and 6-to-4 conversion

2015-02-06 Thread Crawford, Scott
On Jan 30, 2015, at 07:37 , Owen DeLong owen@delong wrote: /48 for all customer sites is not at all unreasonable and is fully supported by ARIN policy. Where Bill is correct is that some customers may have more than one site. The official policy definition of a site is a single building or

Weekly Routing Table Report

2015-02-06 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For

RE: Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Darden, Patrick
And when your opinion is an acknowledged universal constant, I will tip my hat to you. In the meantime, your argument is extremely soundbitey--sounds great, but stupid. --p -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Roland Dobbins Sent: Friday,

Re: Dynamic routing on firewalls.

2015-02-06 Thread Bill Thompson
Just because a cat has kittens in the oven, you don't call them biscuits. A firewall can route, but it is not a router. Both have specialized tasks. You can fix a car with a swiss army knife, but why would you want to? -- Bill Thompson bi...@mahagonny.com On February 5, 2015 7:19:43 PM PST,

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Colin Johnston
Yes, update can cause problems, same as router code updates as well. but update is price of progress. Col On 6 Feb 2015, at 16:44, Darden, Patrick patrick.dar...@p66.com wrote: Sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise. Had an incident back in ~2004 where an IPS signature update closed ALL

RE: mpls over microwave

2015-02-06 Thread Huffman, Timothy
We run MPLS over wireless links of all kinds quite extensively. The key is to make sure that packet loss is at a minimum (duh), and to ensure that your wireless links have a large enough MTU to pass the additional bytes for each label. Other than that, we treat the wireless links as wires. --

RE: Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Darden, Patrick
Sorry, didn't mean to imply otherwise. Had an incident back in ~2004 where an IPS signature update closed ALL network traffic. Including fix-it updates. Definitely a case where the IPS caused major difficulties for a network. --p -Original Message- From: Colin Johnston

Re: Checkpoint IPS

2015-02-06 Thread Colin Johnston
yes, using new rules via test ips good best practice as well. On 6 Feb 2015, at 16:47, Darden, Patrick patrick.dar...@p66.com wrote: Auto-Update can cause problems. I take the stance that updates should be verified in a CERT or ISO first, before being operationalized. --p