On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Domenick Petrella
wrote:
> The BeagleBone's ethernet is directly connected to the SoC, so you would
> get a higher throughput ceiling than the rpi.
>
sounds super important...
question though, what's the expected average/normal/budgeted rate for
the remote office
on the USB bus
> >> and thus limited to USB speeds.
> >>
> >> Original message ----From: Maxwell Cole
> >> Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM
> >> (GMT-05:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
> >> Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances"
> >> for remote offices.
> >>
>
>
If you're already installing a Cisco router, maybe look at an SRE-V module? You
could install a VM/OS on the router.
Cheers,Josh
here here, apple kits rocks for low end server work, sun kit rocks for high end
server work.
Colin
> On 19 Feb 2015, at 20:55, Mel Beckman wrote:
>
> Keenan,
>
> Red. Herrings.
>
> You can provision macs over the network. That's one of the functions of Mac
> OSX Server OS. It's trivial to t
Keenan,
Red. Herrings.
You can provision macs over the network. That's one of the functions of Mac OSX
Server OS. It's trivial to then promote them to servers themselves. All
remotely.
Also, the Mac is running a full BIND9 implementation, not some cutdown version.
Yes the GUI is minimal, but
If you have a lot of locations, as I believe Ray is looking for, all of
this is a manual process you need to do for each instance. That is slow
and inefficient. If you're doing more than a few, you probably want
something you can PXE boot for provisioning and manage with your
preferred DevOps tools
older apple tv will work as well :)
Colin
> On 19 Feb 2015, at 19:47, Mel Beckman wrote:
>
> If your time is worth anything, you can't beat the Mac Mini, especially for a
> branch office mission-critical application like DNS.
>
> I just picked up a Mini from BestBuy for $480. I plugged it in,
If your time is worth anything, you can't beat the Mac Mini, especially for a
branch office mission-critical application like DNS.
I just picked up a Mini from BestBuy for $480. I plugged it in, applied the
latest updates, purchased the MacOSX Server component from the Apples Store
($19), and t
On 2015-02-19 18:26, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:52:42 +, David Reader said:
I'm using several to connect sensors, actuators, and such to a private
network, which it's great for - but I'd think at least twice before
deploying
one as a public-serving host in user-e
On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 06:18:43AM -0500, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
> Bryan Seitz writes:
>
> > odroid-c1 + eMMC module + RTC battery + case + power adapter.
> > Should run you about $75 *AND* wouldn't be bad for running NTP as
> > well.
>
> I haven't looked into the details of the clock, so "would
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 14:52:42 +, David Reader said:
> I'm using several to connect sensors, actuators, and such to a private
> network, which it's great for - but I'd think at least twice before deploying
> one as a public-serving host in user-experience-critical role in a remote
> location.
I
People, processor of this hardware will be killed before the 100M ethernet
be the problem.
--
Eduardo Schoedler
2015-02-19 12:52 GMT-02:00 David Reader :
> On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:26:36 +0200
> Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
>
> > As far as i know, Raspberry PI ethernet over USB might be fine for D
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:26:36 +0200
Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote:
> As far as i know, Raspberry PI ethernet over USB might be fine for DNS
> too, but before it had issues with
> large data transfers (ethernet driver hangs). No idea about now.
On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:26:36 +0200
Denys Fedoryshchenko
On 2015-02-19 15:13, Rob Seastrom wrote:
Denys Fedoryshchenko writes:
Beaglebone has gigabit mac, but due some errata it is not used in
gigabit mode, it is 100M (which is maybe enough for small office). But
it is "hardware" mac.
The Beaglebone Black rev C BOM calls out the ethernet phy chip
Denys Fedoryshchenko writes:
> Beaglebone has gigabit mac, but due some errata it is not used in
> gigabit mode, it is 100M (which is maybe enough for small office). But
> it is "hardware" mac.
The Beaglebone Black rev C BOM calls out the ethernet phy chip as
LAN8710A-EZC-TR which is 10/100 so
: Maxwell
Cole
Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM
(GMT-05:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS
"appliances"
for remote offices.
---
Best regards,
Denys
Bryan Seitz writes:
> odroid-c1 + eMMC module + RTC battery + case + power adapter.
> Should run you about $75 *AND* wouldn't be bad for running NTP as
> well.
I haven't looked into the details of the clock, so "wouldn't be bad"
is probably true, "notably good", well, that would be a task for
s
Consider change your resolver to Unbound.
Much better.
--
Eduardo Schoedler
Em quarta-feira, 18 de fevereiro de 2015, Ray Van Dolson <
rvandol...@esri.com> escreveu:
> Hopefully not too far off topic for this list.
>
> Am looking for options to deploy DNS caching resolvers at remote
> locations
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 08:23:37PM -0500, Rob Seastrom wrote:
>
> "Robert Webb" writes:
>
> > What I do not like about the Pi is the network port is on the USB
> > bus and thus limited to USB speeds.??
>
> Pretty much all of the ARM boards have their ethernet ports on HSIC
> channels (480mbit/s
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Rob Seastrom wrote:
> The Pi is low-powered in more ways than one. Last fall I ran some
> (admittedly fairly simple minded) DNS benchmarks against a Raspberry
> Pi Model B and an ODROID U3.
>
> Particularly if you have DNSSEC validation enabled, the Pi is
> under
"Robert Webb" writes:
> What I do not like about the Pi is the network port is on the USB
> bus and thus limited to USB speeds.Â
Pretty much all of the ARM boards have their ethernet ports on HSIC
channels (480mbit/sec, no-transceiver-phy USB for on-board use -
maximum length is 10cm).
The Pi
e
On 2015-02-18 15:08, Robert Webb wrote:
What I do not like about the Pi is the network port is on the USB bus
and thus limited to USB speeds.
Original message From: Maxwell Cole
Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM
(GMT-05:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances"
for remote offices.
to USB speeds.
>>>
>>> ---- Original message ----From: Maxwell Cole
>>> Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM
>>> (GMT-05:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
>>> Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances"
>>> for remote offices.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
the USB bus
and thus limited to USB speeds.
Original message From: Maxwell Cole
Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM
(GMT-05:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances"
for remote offices.
Not to mention reliability issues with old machines...fans failing,
leaky capacitors, etc, etc.
-Pete
On 2015-02-18 14:32, Baldur Norddahl wrote:
That option is expensive in power fees...
Den 18/02/2015 23.12 skrev "Rich Kulawiec" :
Find someone unloading 50 old, physically small desktop P
t the Pi is the network port is on the USB bus
and thus limited to USB speeds.
Original message From: Maxwell Cole
Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM
(GMT-05:00) To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances"
for remote offices.
What I do not like about the Pi is the network port is on the USB bus and thus
limited to USB speeds.
Original message From: Maxwell Cole
Date:02/18/2015 4:30 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "nanog@nanog.org >> 'NANOG list'"
Subject: Re: OT - Small DNS "appliances" for remote offices.
That option is expensive in power fees...
Den 18/02/2015 23.12 skrev "Rich Kulawiec" :
>
> Find someone unloading 50 old, physically small desktop PCs. Buy the
> lot. Drop OpenBSD and BIND on them, ship 3 to every site, run 1 or 2
> live with the leftovers as on-site spares. If one breaks, wip
Sounds coo with the pi idea. Not sure of the cache level you need but we have
great success with fortigates performing firewall and local DNS host even for
a small remote site that is part of an MS AD via a VPN tunnel. It can be setup
and managed just like a DNS server. No extra devices to lear
And the new CPU is ARM7 so hardfloat is supported. Should make a nifty
DNS box.
-Pete
On 2015-02-18 07:21, Maxwell Cole wrote:
+1 for the pi,
The new model has a quad core and 1GB of ram which should be more than
enough for a DNS.
On 2/18/15 10:03 AM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote:
Not "industri
Find someone unloading 50 old, physically small desktop PCs. Buy the
lot. Drop OpenBSD and BIND on them, ship 3 to every site, run 1 or 2
live with the leftovers as on-site spares. If one breaks, wipe the disk
and send the box to recycling.
(Just checked: someone on a certain auction site is s
+1 for the pi,
The new model has a quad core and 1GB of ram which should be more than
enough for a DNS.
On 2/18/15 10:03 AM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote:
Not "industrial grade", but Raspberry Pis are pretty great for this
kind of low-horsepower application. Throw 2 at each site for
redundancy
I used one of these for a NAT/DNS box running FreeBSD for connection to our
WiFi system. One nice thing is the 4 real serial ports.
http://www.amazon.com/Qotom-I37C4-Bluetooth-Computer-Industrial-Computer/dp/B00MQKJYY0
--
Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 11:
Justin Wilson - MTIN writes:
> Have you looked at Mikrotik?
> www.mikrotik.com
>
> It may be lacking for DNS options you want, but worth a look.
I'd definitely recommend mikrotik for a cheap and cheerful router.
DNS server (the original subject of this message)? Not so much.
-r
Hey Ray,
Most tiny routers with 64MB ram are able to run a cache dns service
while not all of them have the same level such as BIND but rather dnsmasq.
I think that it's not always a bad choice and it depends on what other
infrastructure needs you have in these remote locations.
Someone menti
Have you looked at Mikrotik?
www.mikrotik.com
It may be lacking for DNS options you want, but worth a look.
Justin
Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net
http://www.mtin.net Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers
http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
http://www.midwest-ix.co
What is your desired cost per unit?
Reminds me of needing small pfsense based boxes a few years back. Used this
company's hardware:
http://www.logicsupply.com/computers/solutions/firewall-networking/
I bet you could get something fairly rugged and low maintenance for $400 or
so.
On Wed, Feb 18,
We recently installed one of these basically as digital signage, but I
think it should work fine for your needs too. We've had no issues with it
at all. (we installed ubuntu)
It's the ECS Liva mini-pc
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_LIVA.aspx?DetailID=1560&LanID=0
On Wed, Feb
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:28:16 -0800
Ray Van Dolson wrote:
> Hopefully not too far off topic for this list.
>
> Am looking for options to deploy DNS caching resolvers at remote
> locations
> We're BIND-based and leaning to stick that way, but open to other
> options if they present themselves.
I
I really like the Intel NUC. Standard x86 hardware, multiple choices of
CPUs, runs debian/ubuntu/fedora etc with zero modifications.
/Anders
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Once upon a time, Rob Seastrom said:
> The Pi is low-powered in more ways than one. Last fall I ran some
> (admittedly fairly simple minded) DNS benchmarks against a Raspberry
> Pi Model B and an ODROID U3.
The Pi is not really the right tool for any "production" job IMHO. Even
if you are restr
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 06:28:16AM -0800, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>
> Am looking for options to deploy DNS caching resolvers at remote
> locations where there may only be minimal infrastructure
I suspect that this could be done using an ERLite but have not
actually tried it.
We use Mac Minis; $500 each anywhere plus $25 (!) for all the server
components, dead silent, and ready to go with Bind installed out of the box.
You can also enable dhcpd and all manner of other stock BSD services. There are
"helper" GUI tools for the non-CLI admin built into the Server toolkit
Peter Kristolaitis writes:
> Not "industrial grade", but Raspberry Pis are pretty great for this
> kind of low-horsepower application. Throw 2 at each site for
> redundancy and you have a low-powered, physically small, cheap, dead
> silent, easily replaceable system for ~$150 per site.
The Pi
use a vm dns appliance on the same machine as your vm router instance
Colin
> On 18 Feb 2015, at 14:28, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
>
> Hopefully not too far off topic for this list.
>
> Am looking for options to deploy DNS caching resolvers at remote
> locations where there may only be minimal infr
Not "industrial grade", but Raspberry Pis are pretty great for this kind
of low-horsepower application. Throw 2 at each site for redundancy and
you have a low-powered, physically small, cheap, dead silent, easily
replaceable system for ~$150 per site. Same idea as the Soekris --
just ship ou
Well, if they ever manage to get them into production, I'm hoping to talk
my boss into buying some of these.
http://www.fit-pc.com/web/products/fitlet/
We'd just need to figure out a rackmount bracket of some sort. Hide them
in the case of our previous gen hardware maybe??? Screw them to a cheap
r
Hopefully not too far off topic for this list.
Am looking for options to deploy DNS caching resolvers at remote
locations where there may only be minimal infrastructure (FW and Cisco
equipment) and limited options for installing a noisier, more power
hugnry servers or appliances from a vendor. S
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