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On 5/15/20 02:23, Terrence Koeman via NANOG wrote: No doubt we should thank the super illegal, criminal and anonymous Spamhaus cabal TINSC! -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #7880 503 897-8550 - WB6RDV

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NOG". That was not my intent, and it is > quite clear that those NANOG subscribers who are interested only in > operational matters rather wish I hadn't. > > I also feel compelled to state that the satisfying conclusion of the > RIPE NCC Executive Board election, as

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hat those NANOG subscribers who are interested only in operational matters rather wish I hadn't. I also feel compelled to state that the satisfying conclusion of the RIPE NCC Executive Board election, as already reported here by Terrence Koeman, most probably has relatively little to do with t

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On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:23:28AM +0200, Terrence Koeman via NANOG wrote: > FYI, the voting results for the three positions on the RIPE exec > board were just announced and Elad was NOT elected. https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020 Congratulations to Maria H??ll, Raym

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Peace, On Fri, May 15, 2020, 12:25 PM Terrence Koeman via NANOG wrote: > FYI, the voting results for the three positions on the RIPE exec board > were just announced and Elad was NOT elected. > A funny moment: Raymond Jetten was elected to the board, and he's the RIPE IPv6 working group chair.

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se. > > P.P.S.  I would be posting this info and the above link also to the > very relevant RIPE members-discuss mailing list, but as I am not a > due-paying member of RIPE, I have no ability to do so.  Separately, > due in no small part to the candidate's own recent and manifest

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To: Terrence Koeman; Owen DeLong Cc: Shane Ronan; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > "damages caused to whom and amount to be spent by whom" - You are really > good. > > >

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2020 18:12 To: Owen DeLong Cc: Shane Ronan; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Me: "A degree in economics is not needed to know that if the damages of something is causing x2 the amount that can be spent to avoid the damages

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North American Network Operators' Group > > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > I don’t see hate. I see legitimate technical disagreement with your > hair-brained schemes. > > Perhaps, when a large collection of people with actual engineering expe

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en DeLong Cc: Shane Ronan; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > Me: > "A degree in economics is not needed to know that if the damages of something > is causing x2 the amount that can be spent to avoid the dam

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an ; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election I don’t see hate. I see legitimate technical disagreement with your hair-brained schemes. Perhaps, when a large collection of people with actual engineering experience and deep knowledge tell

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en > Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators' > Group > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Peace, > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:14 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > > A degree in economics is not needed [..] > > Which is the common thi

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t; *To:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > That statement makes no sense. Everyone also get free IPv6 and almost > everyone have equipment that can do IPv6. All anyone has to do is configure > his free IPv6. > > tor. 14. maj 2020 01.56 skrev Elad C

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The public will decide. From: NANOG on behalf of Baldur Norddahl Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:25 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election That statement makes no sense. Everyone also get free IPv6 and almost everyone have

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ey can receive them for free with IPv4+. > -- > *From:* NANOG on behalf of Brielle < > br...@2mbit.com> > *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:40 AM > *To:* NANOG list > *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > What makes you thi

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*

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lling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. From: Elad Cohen Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2020 04:22 To: Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > This is the second time I’ve seen you make this claim in pub

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To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , "nanog@nanog.org" > > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Hello Everyone, > My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald > Show" that took place here many months ago, I was out

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On Wed, 13 May 2020 17:00:14 -0400, Jon Lewis said: > When you've convinced Cisco, Juniper, Arista, and a few other router > vendors to implement, and have submitted patches for the Linux kernel and > userspace to implement IPv4+ (good luck with all that...and expect to be > met with "Can we have

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that you linked. > > The site wrote it because they know that as you wrote - everything is > entirely baseless - but it doesn't matter to them - all they want is > to defame me and to hurt my chances to join the RIPE board, because > they know that I will put an end to the illegal anonymous organi

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fisrael.com/idf-dismisses-head-of-co-ed-idf-unit-for-suspected-relationship-with-subordinate/ Just out of curiosity... Is this you, too? https://hawaiianeyetours.com/files/672%20Size%20Images/humpback_whale_breach.jpg ________ From: Owen DeLong Sent: Thursday, May 14, 202

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In general, such a statement, although misleading, is not wrong. However, having the knowledge ordinarily associated with such a degree definitely helps a lot with the understanding you need to comprehend the matters the degree would cover. On Thu, 14 May 2020 02:17:37 +0300 Töma Gavrichenkov

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You are right, more IPv4 addresses are not needed. From: Owen DeLong Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:17 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson ; NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On May 13, 2020, at 12:36 , Elad Cohen mailto:e

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>> Another member of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". > wait, what? be proud. i like spamhaus. solid, responsive, and responsible. randy

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Can this slap fight go somewhere besides this list? From: NANOG on behalf of Elad Cohen Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM To: Töma Gavrichenkov Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

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At the moment this is exactly what happen, but companies are buying IPv4+, when they can receive them for free with IPv4+. From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:40 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election What

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Töma Gavrichenkov >> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:09 AM >> To: Elad Cohen >> Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators' >> Group >> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election >> >> Peace, >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at

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an Network Operators' > Group > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Peace, > > On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > > [..] for example if spoofed DDoS amplification attacks are > > causing yearly damages of $100M per year in

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You start your posts with Peace but your posts are full of hate. From: Töma Gavrichenkov Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:17 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, O

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Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:14 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > A degree in economics is not needed [..] Which is the common thing to say by the ones who don't have it. I think, dixi. -- Töma

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Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > [..] for example if spoofed DDoS amplification attacks are > causing yearly damages of $100M per year in the world >

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Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > [..] for example if spoofed DDoS amplification attacks are > causing yearly damages of $100M per year in the world > and these EOL equipment cost $50M in the world, it > might be worth to replace them) What's your degree in economics? I

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, it might be worth to replace them) From: Shane Ronan Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:59 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: William Herrin ; North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election How do you solve for all the devices that

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and the ip packet will be forwarded to the > destination ip address. > > > > ---------- > *From:* William Herrin > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:59 PM > *To:* Elad Cohen > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

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iam Herrin Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:59 PM To: Elad Cohen Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:18 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts. > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/

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istopher Morrow > > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:34 AM > > To: Elad Cohen > > Cc: David Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org > > > > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > > admins, can we can this worm can back and .. get back to work ? > > kth

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Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:53 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > Who you are voting? Who me what?.. Alright, At this point, given that I've reviewed all of your proposals — some of those lengthy reviews were sent to members-discuss at ripe dot net before (though it has never been the right place ei

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Who you are voting? From: Töma Gavrichenkov Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:51 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Shane Ronan ; NANOG Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:48 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > "forgive and forget.&

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Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:48 AM Elad Cohen wrote: > "forgive and forget." > Thank you for your vote. Well, when I forget anything that doesn't make sense about your proposals, there's nothing left to think of! Ergo, not at all, because I'm clearly not voting for you :-) -- Töma

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fans that don't want IPv4+ to be >deployed. > >From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard > >Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:10 AM >To: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > >I suspect he’d want to slow adoption and push his

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"forgive and forget." Thank you for your vote. From: Töma Gavrichenkov Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:45 AM To: Shane Ronan Cc: Elad Cohen ; NANOG Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:01 PM Shane

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Peace, > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:01 PM Shane Ronan wrote: >> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:48 PM Elad Cohen wrote: >>> From: Töma Gavrichenkov >>> No, Elad. It is *you* who needs to prove that your concept works. >> >> For you nothing will work. > > How do you expect to get elected when you are

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> Cc: David Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > admins, can we can this worm can back and .. get back to work ? > kthxbi. > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:29 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > > > > LOL so much heat a

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elections. From: NANOG on behalf of Denys Fedoryshchenko Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:18 AM To: Töma Gavrichenkov Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On 2020-05-13 22:53, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > Peace, > > On Wed, May 13, 2020

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Another member of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project". From: Christopher Morrow Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:34 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: David Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election admins,

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ubbard > > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:10 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > > I suspect he’d want to slow adoption and push his frankestein IPv4 because > any extension of IPv4 use makes the netblocks’s he’s obtained questio

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Peace, On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 AM Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote: > On 2020-05-13 22:53, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > > > For you nothing will work. > > > > IPv6 is working good for me so far ;-) > > It works for Elad as well. > He is pushin

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LOL so much heat and lies from IPv6 fans that don't want IPv4+ to be deployed. From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:10 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election I suspect he’d want to slow ado

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On 2020-05-13 22:53, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Elad Cohen wrote: For you nothing will work. Is it a personal attack? IPv6 is working good for me so far ;-) -- Töma It works for Elad as well. He is pushing others for IPv4+ suffering, while he is happi

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in all the need for NAT, continue to make end-users second-class citizens, avoid most of the gains and improvements of IPv6, while reducing the workload involved in adoption by (oh, wait, you’re increasing the workload required)… Where’s the win in this, exactly? Owen > > > From:

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id Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election More accurately, you clearly don’t understand exactly how IPv4+ doesn’t work. Owen On May 13, 2020, at 10:30 , Elad Cohen mailto:e...@netstyle.io>> wrote: LOL at people that are against anything besides IPv6 when i

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nanog@nanog.org" Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Akamai already has 15% peak IPv6 traffic: https://blogs.akamai.com/2020/02/at-21-tbps-reaching-new-levels-of-ipv6-traffic.html Some internet service providers may have more than half of their traffic as IPv6. Some countries are no

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> "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to > their own words in their own following presentation: > > https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation > >

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More accurately, you clearly don’t understand exactly how IPv4+ doesn’t work. Owen > On May 13, 2020, at 10:30 , Elad Cohen wrote: > > LOL at people that are against anything besides IPv6 when it will take much > much more time until IPv6 will be fully deployed. You clearly didn't > understa

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rds, Jordi "The IPv6 Company" *From:*NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:17 PM *To:* NANOG list *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election It is curious how many times we have heard that, not o

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On Wed, 13 May 2020, Elad Cohen wrote: Do you realise that this means you're requiring changing *every* socket-speaking application in the world? Every internet host that will want to speak IPv4+ , will have an update (for example through the operating systems automatic updates mechan

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gt; *From:* NANOG on behalf of Brielle < > br...@2mbit.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:16 PM > *To:* NANOG list > *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > On 5/13/2020 12:09 PM, Elad Cohen wrote: > > - > > /There's a fundamental

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I'll vote for you! From: NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:46 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election I’m a very transparent guy, nothing to hide about how much I do for the comm

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ot; From: NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:17 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election It is curious how many times we have heard that, not only heard in NANOG and other NOGs, but also in IETF, even debated in long thr

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. Please quote relevant replies. > -Original Message- > From: Elad Cohen > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:30 PM > To: Terrence Koeman ; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > "absolute king" - I'm only trying to be elected t

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Regards, Jordi "The IPv6 Company" From: NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:17 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election It is curious how many times we have heard that, not onl

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"absolute king" - I'm only trying to be elected to RIPE board, what does this strange person wants. From: Terrence Koeman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:28 PM To: Elad Cohen; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Yes,

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ubject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > "actually be implemented, even in theory" > > > > > > From: Terrence Koeman > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM > To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org >

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To many (or most) of the people participating in this thread - I enjoy watching flame wars as much - perhaps more - than the next person... But please keep in mind the NANOG mailing list guidelines at https://www.nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ as well as the Code of Conduct that's included

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cause IPv4+ is based on the exact current IPv4 packet format. With the needed roundtable - IPv4+ will be deployed in the whole internet and fast. From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:44 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election It

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On 5/13/2020 9:46 AM, Elad Cohen wrote: Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project": "Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/) Elad made this public allegation one of RIPE "Open Source Working Group" mailing lists, that he started here: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archi

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list *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Hi Brielle, > > http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html > > Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this > defeatism that said there was no way IP

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nt:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:39 PM > *To:* Elad Cohen > *Cc:* David Hubbard ; NANOG < > nanog@nanog.org> > *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > > Peace, > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > > So you didn't even test the

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; > > -- > Regards, >Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy > Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. > > Please quote relevant replies. > Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. > ____ > From: David Hubbard > Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 20

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"actually be implemented, even in theory" From: Terrence Koeman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election You're welcome :) And don't worry I alrea

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More of an "ideas guy" I guess On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:33 PM Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > Peace, > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > >> "As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me >> the sourcecode. >> > > Wait, so you're coming up publicly with a

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V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. From: Elad Cohen Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 21:16 To: Terrence Koeman; David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board electi

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funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you know > in the community writing to you the exact same thing. > > Grow a backbone please. > From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:57 PM > To: NANOG list > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC

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: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:44 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election It just keeps getting dumber by the minute. My home ISP hasn’t even updated firmware to one that supports v6, but yeah, they’re surely going to update to your Frankenstein ipv4 because you’re going to

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Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > For you nothing will work. Is it a personal attack? IPv6 is working good for me so far ;-) -- Töma

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internet than v6. From: NANOG on behalf of Elad Cohen Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:41 PM To: Mikael Abrahamsson Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Do you realise that this means you're requiring changing *every* socket-speaking application in the

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For you nothing will work. From: Töma Gavrichenkov Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:39 PM To: Elad Cohen Cc: David Hubbard ; NANOG Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM Elad Cohen mailto:e...@netstyle.io>>

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Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > So you didn't even test the implementation and didn't create it - so why > you are writing "As a matter of fact". Which fact ? any evidence ? > No, Elad. It is *you* who needs to prove that your concept works. Unless you do it, it is

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655365].[0-655365]v4 ) From: Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:22 PM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Brielle ; NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On Wed, 13 May 2020, Elad Cohen wrote: > LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you

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On 5/13/20 2:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: > It's clear IPv6 is the path forward. It was clear in 2007. But don't > for a second believe that's because IPv4 could not have been upgraded > in place. That's a failure of imagination. IPv6 is the way forward, it has the buy in and damn near critical ma

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G Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM Elad Cohen mailto:e...@netstyle.io>> wrote: "As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me the sourcecode. Wait, so you're coming up publicly with a

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Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > "As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me > the sourcecode. > Wait, so you're coming up publicly with a proposal you don't even have a reference implementation for?! Oh, my. -- Töma >

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On Wed, 13 May 2020, Elad Cohen wrote: LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you know in the community writing to you the exact same thing. "In addition, the sockets API should be extended to support IPxl with a new socket domain PF_IPXL which is identical to PF_

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rases with a popcorn, according to their own words. From: Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:17 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Brielle ; NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Yeah. On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:17 PM Elad Cohen mailto:e...

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Professional ? with Coconut Guilmette ? From: Phil Smith Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:14 AM To: Elad Cohen Cc: Brielle ; NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Gentleman, please this is a professional environment, lets keep it that way. On

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Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts. From: NANOG on behalf of Terrence Koeman Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 PM To: David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election If you thought IPv4+ was

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On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:58 AM Brielle wrote: > One thing that cropped up in my mind from the late 90s and AFAIK still > goes on today - isn't it pretty well documented that more then a small > number of 'professional' firewalls have a habit of just outright > discarding/rejecting/barfing on pac

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NCC Executive Board election On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Hi Brielle, > > http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html > > Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this > defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been > incremental

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"As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me the sourcecode. From: Töma Gavrichenkov Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:02 PM To: Elad Cohen Cc: David Hubbard ; NANOG Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Peace, O

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Peace, On Wed, May 13, 2020, 8:33 PM Elad Cohen wrote: > You clearly didn't understand how IPv4+ works. > That's because it doesn't work! Just like the rest of your "solutions", as a matter of fact. -- Töma >

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On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote: Hi Brielle, http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been incrementally updated to support more addresses, that a greenfield protoco

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     Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V. Please quote relevant replies. Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone. From: David Hubbard Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election > LO

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On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brielle wrote: > There's a fundamental lack of understanding from people on why you can't > just 'bolt on' more addresses to IPv4. Data structures in memory, > software APIs and syscalls, hex notations, subnetting, route > determination and propigation with intern

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

We will take your path, lets wait 20 years for IPv6 to be fully deployed. From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:16 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election On 5/13/2020 12:09 PM, Elad Cohen wrote

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

I really love that the entire premise of this stems from that people doing 'software upgrades' to IPv4-2 - Electric Boogaloo would be any faster than those same people just migrating to IPv6. Seriously hilarious. If they won't move to something already supported on their software, why would operat

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

On 5/13/2020 12:09 PM, Elad Cohen wrote: - /There's a fundamental lack of understanding from people on why you can't just 'bolt on' more addresses to IPv4.  Data structures in memory, software APIs and syscalls, hex notations, subnetting, route determination and propigation with internet rout

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

8:56 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Meant to send this to the list, but hit reply instead of reply to list. Oops. Fixed. On 5/13/2020 11:35 AM, Elad Cohen wrote: > The principals in IPv4+ weren't suggested anywhere else, can you provide > a link ? instead

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

Meant to send this to the list, but hit reply instead of reply to list. Oops. Fixed. On 5/13/2020 11:35 AM, Elad Cohen wrote: The principals in IPv4+ weren't suggested anywhere else, can you provide a link ? instead of misleading the readers again. Those of us who have actually been involv

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

only hollow big words. From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:28 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election Dude, you sound like a rambling loon in this e-mail. Hate to break it to you, but there's n

Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election

PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly don’t have even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be implemented with ‘sof

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