On 5/15/20 02:23, Terrence Koeman via NANOG wrote:
No doubt we should thank the super illegal, criminal and anonymous
Spamhaus cabal
TINSC!
--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV
I feel as though I am reading an amalgamation of the sundry opinions rendered
by US judges and Justices against such irreputable characters as Prenda Law and
its shell companies.
Bravo Ron.
Bravo.
But what do I know? I'm just a 20 year old 9th-grader.
On Fri, 15 May 2020 12:10:49 -0700
I want to thank Joe Greco for his kind and generous
comments. That having been said, I'm not sure that I either should,
or even want to take credit for having kicked off *with a single message*
"a 100+-message flamefest on NANOG". That was not my intent, and it is
quite clear that those NANOG
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:23:28AM +0200, Terrence Koeman via NANOG wrote:
> FYI, the voting results for the three positions on the RIPE exec
> board were just announced and Elad was NOT elected.
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2020
Congratulations to Maria H??ll,
Peace,
On Fri, May 15, 2020, 12:25 PM Terrence Koeman via NANOG
wrote:
> FYI, the voting results for the three positions on the RIPE exec board
> were just announced and Elad was NOT elected.
>
A funny moment: Raymond Jetten was elected to the board, and he's the RIPE
IPv6 working group chair.
FYI, the voting results for the three positions on the RIPE exec board were
just announced and Elad was NOT elected.
No doubt we should thank the super illegal, criminal and anonymous Spamhaus
cabal as well as the super shady and corrupt IPv6 lobby for manipulating this
election from the
: Shane Ronan; North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> "damages caused to whom and amount to be spent by whom" - You are really
> good.
>
>
>
> From: Terrence Koeman
> Sent:
rs' Group
Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Me:
"A degree in economics is not needed to know that if the damages of something
is causing x2 the amount that can be spent to avoid the damages - then half of
the amount should be spent."
Toma:
> A degree i
North American Network Operators' Group
>
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> I don’t see hate. I see legitimate technical disagreement with your
> hair-brained schemes.
>
> Perhaps, when a large collection of people with actual engineering experi
ject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> Me:
> "A degree in economics is not needed to know that if the damages of something
> is causing x2 the amount that can be spent to avoid the damages - then half
> of the amount should be spent."
>
> Toma
North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
I don’t see hate. I see legitimate technical disagreement with your
hair-brained schemes.
Perhaps, when a large collection of people with actual engineering experience
and deep knowledge tell you that y
en
> Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators'
> Group
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> Peace,
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:14 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> > A degree in economics is not needed [..]
>
> Which is the common thing to
t; *To:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> That statement makes no sense. Everyone also get free IPv6 and almost
> everyone have equipment that can do IPv6. All anyone has to do is configure
> his free IPv6.
>
> tor. 14. maj 2020 01.56 skrev Elad C
The public will decide.
From: NANOG on behalf of Baldur Norddahl
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 10:25 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
That statement makes no sense. Everyone also get free IPv6 and almost everyone
have
ey can receive them for free with IPv4+.
> --
> *From:* NANOG on behalf of Brielle <
> br...@2mbit.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:40 AM
> *To:* NANOG list
> *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> What makes you thi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAeqVGP-GPM
--
-Barry Shein
Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com
Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD
The World: Since 1989 | A Public Information Utility | *oo*
lling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
From: Elad Cohen
Sent: Thursday, 14 May 2020 04:22
To: Owen DeLong
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> This is the second time I’ve seen you make this claim in public. I see
To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , "nanog@nanog.org"
>
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> Hello Everyone,
> My apology for not providing an official response to the first "The Ronald
> Show" that took place here many months ago, I was o
On Wed, 13 May 2020 17:00:14 -0400, Jon Lewis said:
> When you've convinced Cisco, Juniper, Arista, and a few other router
> vendors to implement, and have submitted patches for the Linux kernel and
> userspace to implement IPv4+ (good luck with all that...and expect to be
> met with "Can we have
d.
>
> The site wrote it because they know that as you wrote - everything is
> entirely baseless - but it doesn't matter to them - all they want is
> to defame me and to hurt my chances to join the RIPE board, because
> they know that I will put an end to the illegal anonymous organization
> "Th
isses-head-of-co-ed-idf-unit-for-suspected-relationship-with-subordinate/
Just out of curiosity... Is this you, too?
https://hawaiianeyetours.com/files/672%20Size%20Images/humpback_whale_breach.jpg
From: Owen DeLong
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:07 AM
To: Elad
In general, such a statement, although misleading, is not wrong. However,
having the knowledge ordinarily associated with such a degree definitely helps
a lot with the understanding you need to comprehend the matters the degree
would cover.
On Thu, 14 May 2020 02:17:37 +0300
Töma Gavrichenkov
You are right, more IPv4 addresses are not needed.
From: Owen DeLong
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:17 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson ; NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
On May 13, 2020, at 12:36 , Elad Cohen
mailto:e
>> Another member of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".
> wait, what?
be proud. i like spamhaus. solid, responsive, and responsible.
randy
Can this slap fight go somewhere besides this list?
From: NANOG on behalf of Elad Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 7:34 PM
To: Töma Gavrichenkov
Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators'
Group
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
You
At the moment this is exactly what happen, but companies are buying IPv4+, when
they can receive them for free with IPv4+.
From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:40 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
What
Töma Gavrichenkov
>> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:09 AM
>> To: Elad Cohen
>> Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators'
>> Group
>> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04
an Network Operators'
> Group
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> Peace,
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> > [..] for example if spoofed DDoS amplification attacks are
> > causing yearly damages of $100M per year in
You start your posts with Peace but your posts are full of hate.
From: Töma Gavrichenkov
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 2:17 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators'
Group
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
On Thu
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:14 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> A degree in economics is not needed [..]
Which is the common thing to say by the ones who don't have it.
I think, dixi.
--
Töma
Cc: Shane Ronan ; North American Network Operators'
Group
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> [..] for example if spoofed DDoS amplification attacks are
> causing yearly damages of $100M per year in the world
> and
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 2:04 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> [..] for example if spoofed DDoS amplification attacks are
> causing yearly damages of $100M per year in the world
> and these EOL equipment cost $50M in the world, it
> might be worth to replace them)
What's your degree in economics?
, it might be worth
to replace them)
From: Shane Ronan
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:59 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: William Herrin ; North American Network Operators' Group
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
How do you solve for all the devices that don't
ket will be forwarded to the
> destination ip address.
>
>
>
> ------
> *From:* William Herrin
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:59 PM
> *To:* Elad Cohen
> *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> On W
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:59 PM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:18 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts.
> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/a
> > Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:34 AM
> > To: Elad Cohen
> > Cc: David Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org
> >
> > Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> >
> > admins, can we can this worm can back and .. get back to work ?
> > kthxbi.
> >
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:53 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> Who you are voting?
Who me what?.. Alright,
At this point, given that I've reviewed all of your proposals — some
of those lengthy reviews were sent to members-discuss at ripe dot net
before (though it has never been the right place
Who you are voting?
From: Töma Gavrichenkov
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:51 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Shane Ronan ; NANOG
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:48 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> "forgive and forget.&
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:48 AM Elad Cohen wrote:
> "forgive and forget."
> Thank you for your vote.
Well, when I forget anything that doesn't make sense about your
proposals, there's nothing left to think of!
Ergo, not at all, because I'm clearly not voting for you :-)
--
Töma
be
>deployed.
>
>From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard
>
>Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:10 AM
>To: nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
>
>I suspect he’d want to slow adoption and push his frankestein IPv4
>because any ex
"forgive and forget."
Thank you for your vote.
From: Töma Gavrichenkov
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:45 AM
To: Shane Ronan
Cc: Elad Cohen ; NANOG
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:01 PM Shane
Peace,
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:01 PM Shane Ronan wrote:
>> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 3:48 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
>>> From: Töma Gavrichenkov
>>> No, Elad. It is *you* who needs to prove that your concept works.
>>
>> For you nothing will work.
>
> How do you expect to get elected when you are
> Cc: David Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org
>
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> admins, can we can this worm can back and .. get back to work ?
> kthxbi.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 5:29 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> >
> > LOL so much heat a
in these elections.
From: NANOG on behalf of Denys Fedoryshchenko
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:18 AM
To: Töma Gavrichenkov
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
On 2020-05-13 22:53, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
> Peace,
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020
Another member of the illegal anonymous organization "The Spamhaus Project".
From: Christopher Morrow
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:34 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: David Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
admins,
d
>
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:10 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
>
> I suspect he’d want to slow adoption and push his frankestein IPv4 because
> any extension of IPv4 use makes the netblocks’s he’s obtained question
Peace,
On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 12:18 AM Denys Fedoryshchenko
wrote:
> On 2020-05-13 22:53, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> > > For you nothing will work.
> >
> > IPv6 is working good for me so far ;-)
>
> It works for Elad as well.
> He is
LOL so much heat and lies from IPv6 fans that don't want IPv4+ to be deployed.
From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 12:10 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
I suspect he’d want to slow adoption
On 2020-05-13 22:53, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
For you nothing will work.
Is it a personal attack?
IPv6 is working good for me so far ;-)
--
Töma
It works for Elad as well.
He is pushing others for IPv4+ suffering, while he is
NAT, continue to make end-users
second-class citizens, avoid most of the gains and improvements of IPv6, while
reducing the workload involved in adoption by (oh, wait, you’re increasing the
workload required)…
Where’s the win in this, exactly?
Owen
>
>
> From: Mikael Abrahamsson
id Hubbard ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
More accurately, you clearly don’t understand exactly how IPv4+ doesn’t work.
Owen
On May 13, 2020, at 10:30 , Elad Cohen
mailto:e...@netstyle.io>> wrote:
LOL at people that are against anything besides IPv6 when i
nanog@nanog.org"
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Akamai already has 15% peak IPv6 traffic:
https://blogs.akamai.com/2020/02/at-21-tbps-reaching-new-levels-of-ipv6-traffic.html
Some internet service providers may have more than half of their traffic as
IPv6.
Some countries are no
> "The Spamhaus Project" is an illegal anonymous organization according to
> their own words in their own following presentation:
>
> https://www.scribd.com/document/445894312/Spamhaus-Illegal-Private-Data-Violation
>
>
More accurately, you clearly don’t understand exactly how IPv4+ doesn’t work.
Owen
> On May 13, 2020, at 10:30 , Elad Cohen wrote:
>
> LOL at people that are against anything besides IPv6 when it will take much
> much more time until IPv6 will be fully deployed. You clearly didn't
>
i
"The IPv6 Company"
*From:*NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ via NANOG
*Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:17 PM
*To:* NANOG list
*Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
It is curious how many times we have heard that, not only h
On Wed, 13 May 2020, Elad Cohen wrote:
Do you realise that this means you're requiring changing *every*
socket-speaking application in the world?
Every internet host that will want to speak IPv4+ , will have an update (for
example through the operating systems automatic updates
gt; *From:* NANOG on behalf of Brielle <
> br...@2mbit.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:16 PM
> *To:* NANOG list
> *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> On 5/13/2020 12:09 PM, Elad Cohen wrote:
> > -
> > /There's a fundamental lack
I'll vote for you!
From: NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
NANOG
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:46 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
I’m a very transparent guy, nothing to hide about how much I do for the
community
y"
From: NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
NANOG
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:17 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
It is curious how many times we have heard that, not only heard in NANOG and
other NOGs, but also in IETF, even debated in long thr
relevant replies.
> -Original Message-
> From: Elad Cohen
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:30 PM
> To: Terrence Koeman ; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> "absolute king" - I'm only trying to be elected to RIPE board, what d
Regards,
Jordi
"The IPv6 Company"
From: NANOG on behalf of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via
NANOG
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:17 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
It is curious how many times we have heard that, not
"absolute king" - I'm only trying to be elected to RIPE board, what does this
strange person wants.
From: Terrence Koeman
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 11:28 PM
To: Elad Cohen; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Yes, are
t: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> "actually be implemented, even in theory"
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Terrence Koeman
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM
> To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org
> Sub
To many (or most) of the people participating in this thread -
I enjoy watching flame wars as much - perhaps more - than the next
person...
But please keep in mind the NANOG mailing list guidelines at
https://www.nanog.org/resources/usage-guidelines/ as well as the Code of
Conduct that's
cause IPv4+ is
based on the exact current IPv4 packet format. With the needed roundtable -
IPv4+ will be deployed in the whole internet and fast.
From: NANOG on behalf of David Hubbard
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:44 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
It
On 5/13/2020 9:46 AM, Elad Cohen wrote:
Real identities behind "The Spamhaus Project":
"Rob Shultz" - Rob McEwen (https://www.invaluement.com/)
Elad made this public allegation one of RIPE "Open Source Working Group"
mailing lists, that he started here:
list
*Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> Hi Brielle,
>
> http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html
>
> Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this
> defeatism that said there was no way IP
sday, May 13, 2020 10:39 PM
> *To:* Elad Cohen
> *Cc:* David Hubbard ; NANOG <
> nanog@nanog.org>
> *Subject:* Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
>
> Peace,
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
>
> So you didn't even test the implementation
ds,
>Terrence Koeman, PhD/MTh/BPsy
> Darkness Reigns (Holding) B.V.
>
> Please quote relevant replies.
> Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
> ____________
> From: David Hubbard
> Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19
> To: nanog@nanog.org
&
"actually be implemented, even in theory"
From: Terrence Koeman
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:58 PM
To: Elad Cohen; David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
You're welcome :) And don't worry I already h
More of an "ideas guy" I guess
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:33 PM Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
> Peace,
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
>
>> "As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me
>> the sourcecode.
>>
>
> Wait, so you're coming up publicly with a
replies.
Spelling errors courtesy of my 'smart'phone.
From: Elad Cohen
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 21:16
To: Terrence Koeman; David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> Thank you for publishing i
funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you know
> in the community writing to you the exact same thing.
>
> Grow a backbone please.
> From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:57 PM
> To: NANOG list
> Subject: Re:
: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:44 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
It just keeps getting dumber by the minute. My home ISP hasn’t even updated
firmware to one that supports v6, but yeah, they’re surely going to update to
your Frankenstein ipv4 because you’re going
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:43 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> For you nothing will work.
Is it a personal attack?
IPv6 is working good for me so far ;-)
--
Töma
of the internet than v6.
From: NANOG on behalf of Elad Cohen
Date: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 3:41 PM
To: Mikael Abrahamsson
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Do you realise that this means you're requiring changing *every*
socket-speaking application in the world
For you nothing will work.
From: Töma Gavrichenkov
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:39 PM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: David Hubbard ; NANOG
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM Elad Cohen
mailto:e...@netstyle.io>>
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:27 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> So you didn't even test the implementation and didn't create it - so why
> you are writing "As a matter of fact". Which fact ? any evidence ?
>
No, Elad. It is *you* who needs to prove that your concept works. Unless
you do it, it is
)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:22 PM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Brielle ; NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
On Wed, 13 May 2020, Elad Cohen wrote:
> LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you
> know in the com
On 5/13/20 2:42 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> It's clear IPv6 is the path forward. It was clear in 2007. But don't
> for a second believe that's because IPv4 could not have been upgraded
> in place. That's a failure of imagination.
IPv6 is the way forward, it has the buy in and damn near critical
: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM Elad Cohen
mailto:e...@netstyle.io>> wrote:
"As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me the
sourcecode.
Wait, so you're coming up publicly with a proposal you do
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020, 10:07 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> "As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me
> the sourcecode.
>
Wait, so you're coming up publicly with a proposal you don't even have a
reference implementation for?!
Oh, my.
--
Töma
>
On Wed, 13 May 2020, Elad Cohen wrote:
LOL funny seeing you changing your mind by 180 degrees when someone you
know in the community writing to you the exact same thing.
"In addition, the sockets API should be extended to support IPxl with a
new socket domain PF_IPXL which is identical to
rases with a popcorn, according to
their own words.
From: Phil Smith
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:17 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Brielle ; NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Yeah.
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 12:17 PM Elad Cohen
mailto:e...
Professional ? with Coconut Guilmette ?
From: Phil Smith
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:14 AM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Brielle ; NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Gentleman, please this is a professional environment, lets keep it that way
Thank you for publishing it, please post also in your social accounts.
From: NANOG on behalf of Terrence Koeman
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:54 PM
To: David Hubbard; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
If you thought IPv4
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 11:58 AM Brielle wrote:
> One thing that cropped up in my mind from the late 90s and AFAIK still
> goes on today - isn't it pretty well documented that more then a small
> number of 'professional' firewalls have a habit of just outright
> discarding/rejecting/barfing on
NCC Executive Board election
On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> Hi Brielle,
>
> http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html
>
> Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this
> defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been
> incremental
"As a matter of fact" - if you created an implementation please send me the
sourcecode.
From: Töma Gavrichenkov
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:02 PM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: David Hubbard ; NANOG
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Peace,
O
Peace,
On Wed, May 13, 2020, 8:33 PM Elad Cohen wrote:
> You clearly didn't understand how IPv4+ works.
>
That's because it doesn't work!
Just like the rest of your "solutions", as a matter of fact.
--
Töma
>
On 5/13/2020 12:42 PM, William Herrin wrote:
Hi Brielle,
http://bill.herrin.us/network/ipxl.html
Someone said much as you did way back in 2007. It bugged me, this
defeatism that said there was no way IPv4 could have been
incrementally updated to support more addresses, that a greenfield
ness Reigns (Holding) B.V.
Please quote relevant replies.
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From: David Hubbard
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:19
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [SPAM-MS] Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
> LOL the IPv4+ thing wa
On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:57 AM Brielle wrote:
> There's a fundamental lack of understanding from people on why you can't
> just 'bolt on' more addresses to IPv4. Data structures in memory,
> software APIs and syscalls, hex notations, subnetting, route
> determination and propigation with
We will take your path, lets wait 20 years for IPv6 to be fully deployed.
From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 9:16 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
On 5/13/2020 12:09 PM, Elad Cohen wrote
I really love that the entire premise of this stems from that people doing
'software upgrades' to IPv4-2 - Electric Boogaloo would be any faster than
those same people just migrating to IPv6. Seriously hilarious.
If they won't move to something already supported on their software, why
would
On 5/13/2020 12:09 PM, Elad Cohen wrote:
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/There's a fundamental lack of understanding from people on why you can't
just 'bolt on' more addresses to IPv4. Data structures in memory,
software APIs and syscalls, hex notations, subnetting, route
determination and propigation with internet
'.
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Nobody is "mocking" besides IPv6 fans that are against any solution until IPv6
will be fully deployed which can take more 20 years from now.
From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:56 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re
Meant to send this to the list, but hit reply instead of reply to list.
Oops. Fixed.
On 5/13/2020 11:35 AM, Elad Cohen wrote:
The principals in IPv4+ weren't suggested anywhere else, can you provide
a link ? instead of misleading the readers again.
Those of us who have actually been
words.
From: NANOG on behalf of Brielle
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 8:28 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
Dude, you sound like a rambling loon in this e-mail.
Hate to break it to you, but there's nothing illegal about
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: RIPE NCC Executive Board election
LOL the IPv4+ thing was a pretty entertaining read. You clearly don’t have
even a basic understanding of the v4 packet structure, or that the octet
display concept is simply for human benefit. IPv6 can be implemented with
‘software
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