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On 3/7/18 9:00 AM, Ian Mock wrote: Everything is negotiable. NRC on a cross-connect is ridiculous. The cost to run should be made up with the amount they're charging monthly. I wouldn't pay more than $200/mo for copper. Actually, as a reflection of the provider's cost, NRC for a cross-connect

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Everything is negotiable. NRC on a cross-connect is ridiculous. The cost to run should be made up with the amount they're charging monthly. I wouldn't pay more than $200/mo for copper. Ian Mock On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, James Laszko wrote: > One of our colo’s in

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: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 1:32 PM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing Sure, but that's just a cost of doing business. There's not a line-item for cleaning the bathroom. Frankly, I don't know why there are trays full of hundreds of pairs instead of each cage having a patch panel

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On 3/7/18 11:35 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: Because it's a capital outlay up front, instead of a build-as-you-need-it with the capital investment spread over time. There's no cost if the customer is charged for it when they need it.

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On 03/07/2018 10:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Frankly, I don't know why there are trays full of hundreds of pairs instead of each cage having a patch panel and a 144 or some such trunk to another patch panel elsewhere. Seems like there's a lot of extra work being done. Because it's a capital

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re's a lot of extra work being done. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > - Original Message - > > From: "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> > To

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Frankly, I don't know why there are trays full of hundreds of pairs instead of each cage having a patch panel and a 144 or some such trunk to another patch panel elsewhere. Seems like there's a lot of extra work being done. I have seen this in one facility. They just run 24 strand or whatever

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a lot of extra work being done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 12:17:01 PM Subject

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On 3/7/18 10:02 AM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: Ohh no NRC. Reason = Somebody has to pull back the cables (aka cut the ends off) You mean you're not supposed to let cables pile up indefinitely until they become an immovable tangled mass?

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m>; nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing NRC? Do you mean ETC (early termination charge)? This is a sore point with me in all telco contracts. They want a one- or two-year term, or even three, and in exchange give you a discount on the installation and a

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oun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when you're done with it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solut

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h 7, 2018 9:09 AM > Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing > > I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when > you're done with it. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

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In a previous life when I was on the other side of writing contracts and my boss demanded auto-renewals, I always told my customers to write me a cancellation letter when they signed the contract. The amazing thing was how few actually did it. On Mar 7, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Mel Beckman

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] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM Cc: nanog <nanog@nanog.org> Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when you're done with it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions M

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: "Romeo Czumbil" <romeo.czum...@tierpoint.com> Cc: "nanog" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:55:32 AM Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing NRC? Do you mean ETC (early termination charge)? This is a sore point with me in all telco contracts. T

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There are a couple reasons. You order service from me.  It costs me $X to build out that service.  I balance that against the value of your contract.  If you cancel early then my numbers may not work or I may lose money on the deal, or if I had to borrow money to do your build, then my

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Or the services you can only cancel once a year, may not give early notice of cancellation, and if you miss the window, you're on the hook another year. Any contract we do with our customers is always MCP - Minimum Contract Period with automatic month to month renewals at the end - unless

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NRC? Do you mean ETC (early termination charge)? This is a sore point with me in all telco contracts. They want a one- or two-year term, or even three, and in exchange give you a discount on the installation and a tiny MRC reduction. But if you cancel early, they demand full payment for all

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Wait till you ask for a disconnect. Then you get hit again for a hefty NRC -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Laszko Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM To: nanog Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing One of our colo’s

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Depending on the location (x-conns carrier hotels are typically more expensive) I'd expect to pay anywhere from $100-$200 per month for copper. -Matt On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, James Laszko wrote: > One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by Zayo recently and I

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Too much, whatever it is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "James Laszko" To: "nanog" Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:10:45 AM Subject: Zayo