Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Bill Notfaded
Thanks Bob. I've noticed there are many counterfits of even the agilent GPIB in interface. It appears many of them work just fine too even with the manufacturer drivers apparently: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flood-of-new-agilent-82357b-gpib-usb-adaptors-on-ebay-the-real-deal/ Crazy

Re: [neonixie-l] Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread martin martin
Goldmine electronics- cool site! ~ *mcvei...@gmail.com * On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 5:23 AM 'John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l < neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> wrote: > It's pretty good on most voltages. Now I need a good reference for > resistance. I've been waiting for months for a new

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Robert L
Hi Bill, I *REALLY* think an off the shelf USB-GPIB interface on a reasonably current computer will be the way to go. There's so much more involved than just the hardware interface! Having a system where the various software and hardware pieces play well together is no small accomplishment.

Re: [neonixie-l] What are these?

2019-08-12 Thread Dekatron42
The one marked TD71 is an OTIS Touch Tube used in elevators. It is a touch sensitive trigger tube. They are also named 425A5 or 2040. They are similar to the RCA 1C22. The 71 in TD71 is probably the voltage drop when triggered. You had to replace tubes with the same voltage drop to get the

Re: [neonixie-l] What are these?

2019-08-12 Thread Dekatron42
Should have said 1C21, not 22. /Martin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to neonixie-l+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the

Re: [neonixie-l] What are these?

2019-08-12 Thread martin martin
Looks like a 1950s vintage elevator pilot lamp. I had one till it fell and shattered! I may be wrong, but looks close. ~ *mcvei...@gmail.com * On Mon, Aug 12, 2019 at 2:46 PM Mac Doktor wrote: > > On Aug 12, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: > > Any ideas folks? > > > I can't think

[neonixie-l] Last call on the Symbol Nixies

2019-08-12 Thread Nicholas Stock
Folks, here's what I have left to offer before the rest go on 'the bay'. Thanks to those who have already bought some! Z521M B-50358 NL-5016 B-5016 B-5032 B-5999 NL-811 NL-50325 NL-5442 B-54364 B-54365 NL-5448 ZM1031 ZM1033 NL5992 PM me if interested as usual Cheers, Nick -- You received

Re: [neonixie-l] What are these?

2019-08-12 Thread Mac Doktor
> On Aug 12, 2019, at 5:30 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: > > Any ideas folks? I can't think of the name of that indicator tube, either. One just sold on eBay but the seller didn't include a stock number (and he has the boxes swapped):

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread gregebert
As far as I can tell, GPIB is pretty simple: just a matter of controlling 16 TTL-level signals thru the GPIO pins of your favorite microcontroller, and the commands themselves are just strings of text characters. The GPIB cables are pretty cheap at surplus stores, so this should be a rather

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread martin martin
Welcome to the Nix folks! I used to work for 3M in Camarillo and have a few HP-85s. They were popular in the 80s for lab and automating instruments. Most have HPIB IO controllers built-in or add ons. I am sure I can get one for you but shipping may high as they are all made in the US and have

[neonixie-l] Re: Welcome & please introduce yourself!

2019-08-12 Thread Bill Notfaded
Yes welcome! I love learning stuff you EE types with a lot of experience have to offer. I'm a computer scientist so we have some things in common but when it comes to Electrical Engineering I alway know where to come for help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[neonixie-l] Re: Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Bill Notfaded
Wow Robert that's really good information. It seems the National Instruments are the MOST expensive interfaces as well. I was wondering if the HP/Agilent/Keysight USB interface would be workable as well! I like their price much better for one thing too! This is great advice because NI

RE: [neonixie-l] Just won auction for idk what yet?

2019-08-12 Thread Michail Wilson
Tyler, https://www.nixies.us/projects/its1a-clock/ Michail Wilson 206-920-6312 From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com [mailto:neonixie-l@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Bourne Sent: Monday, August 12, 2019 10:54 AM To: neonixie-l Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Just won auction for idk

[neonixie-l] Re: Welcome & please introduce yourself!

2019-08-12 Thread Tyler Bourne
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Re: [neonixie-l] Just won auction for idk what yet?

2019-08-12 Thread Tyler Bourne
I have a few of these tubes as well. I've been looking for a good schematic for a ITS1A clock. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[neonixie-l] Re: Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Robert L
Hi Bill, " I think my next foray into this is getting a GPIB usb interface and setting up some automated test and data sampling exercises." Check out Rohde & Schwarz Forum... This has become my instrument control environment of choice... Python with some nice extensions and tools. Started

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971 questions

2019-08-12 Thread gregebert
If you have a capacitance meter, you can compare capacitance readings on this pin vs the same on good tubes. If the values differ significantly, it suggests the break is closer towards the pin. I suspect it's somewhere with the connections to/from the internal 'circuit board'. Tapping the tube

[neonixie-l] Re: Welcome & please introduce yourself!

2019-08-12 Thread schmitt trigger
40+ years of experience as an EE. My very first electronic project that actually worked was a vacuum-tube amplifier, and their warm glow has stayed close to my heart. Worked as an engineer all my life, with the exception of a brief stint in administration. But as a hobby, I've never abandoned

[neonixie-l] Re: B7971 questions

2019-08-12 Thread newxito
After 3 years I finally managed to test the tubes. The good news: 7 seem to be ok so I can start designing the board. The bad news: 1 has a broken connection on segment 2. I’ve applied some heat to the pin, but I think there is no way to fix it. I got 3 tubes with Burroughs label, 4 with

Re: [neonixie-l] Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Bill Notfaded
Thanks John these looks great. Vishay seems to make nice ones with low ppm/degree C and low tolerance. A few of these across the ohms range would work great for home calibration lab. Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "neonixie-l" group. To

Re: [neonixie-l] Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread 'John Rehwinkel' via neonixie-l
> It's pretty good on most voltages. Now I need a good reference for > resistance. I've been waiting for months for a new dmmcheckplus but > apparently the seller has sold all his business to someone else. They > useVishay type PTF56 for ohms reference. Goldmine Electronics has some nice

Re: [neonixie-l] Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Bill Notfaded
You're right Martin. I really like the way HP built their gear back in the 70's and 80's. They really over engineered everything. It's hard not to love! I have a Keithley 195A as well and it's way way off on its calibration. Just goes to show how different and also non-trivial cal can be.

[neonixie-l] Jazzed this weekend project fixed HP 3456A bench MM!

2019-08-12 Thread Dekatron42
Nice! Always good when instruments can be repaired. I learned something at a previous job that I didn’ think about previously and that is that a calibrated instrument is no proof for that it makes correct measurements after it has been calibrated, the calibration only shows that up to that