Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Nicholas Stock
Some tubes were doped with Kr85. They have little radiation signs on them 122P224, Paul has a nice write up here ( https://www.nixies.us/bwg_gallery/122p224/). Half life is 10 years, so a lot of decay since manufacture On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:42 PM liam bartosiewicz <

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread liam bartosiewicz
If I remember correctly, there were some tubes manufactured that had a small external radioactive source to make them more reliable. It wouldn’t be very practical, or safe for that matter, but a radioactive nixie clock does sound pretty cool.On Nov 30, 2023, at 1:43 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote:May

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread gregebert
I've never had problems with tubes failing to ignite, perhaps because I use higher-than-minimum supply voltages, typically around +200VDC. My first clock uses 340V. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 1:46:25 PM UTC-8 Jeff Walton wrote: > Give me the glow, Nick! > > -- You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
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[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
I can try to modify the Omnixie HV module if higher voltage shows promise. The module will be a little bit of a challenge as it has really small parts and I have a rework gun that might be on the large side and melt everything around the target resistor. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Nicholas Stock
May I suggest a small piece of uranium ore placed next to the clock? LOL. Just kidding Jeff! I like Jon's idea, up the voltage/series resistor. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 1:38 PM Jeff Walton wrote: > Not dimmed. Tried to do a momentary hit on all segments to "wake" up the > tube and it helped

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
Have some 365 and 395nm LED chips on order to experiment with. Will try some things when I get them. Hopefully they will help and I can hide them under the tube. I saw some 245nm LEDs but super expensive and larger. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:28:27 AM UTC-6 Tidak Ada wrote: > Why

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jeff Walton
Not dimmed. Tried to do a momentary hit on all segments to "wake" up the tube and it helped some but the extra flash is distracting. On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:04:36 AM UTC-6 Paul Andrews wrote: > Are they also dimmed using an LDR? If so, turn dimming off - if you have > access to

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread John
I had a radio (can't remember the type,) that had a small neon bulb under the chassis ...and NE2 perhaps. I think it was used as a cheap and dirty voltage reference . The thing was, when the chassis was flat on the bench in operating position, the bulb would never fire. When I tipped it on

Re: [neonixie-l] FS: Heathkit Nixie multimeter IM-1202 $20

2023-11-30 Thread Jon Jackson
Just sent you an email. On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 8:17 AM John wrote: > This is a nice original condition meter that works... no additional holes, > etc. Built like a tank for it's small size. Heath didn't spare any money on > the enclosure. > > $20 plus actual shipping. * I use Pirate Ship for

RE: [neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Tidak Ada
Why not a trial with UV-LED’s 365 nm is a useful wavelength and you don’t need to use then at full power. You can use them in a pulsed mode only during refresh of the display to avoid too much O3 production. Iyt is not as hazardous as the use of ß-radiating isotopes as used in rigger tubes.

[neonixie-l] FS: Heathkit Nixie multimeter IM-1202 $20

2023-11-30 Thread John
This is a nice original condition meter that works... no additional holes, etc. Built like a tank for it's small size. Heath didn't spare any money on the enclosure. $20 plus actual shipping. * I use Pirate Ship for their significant discounts.* The farthest location from me in the US is

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Paul Andrews
Are they also dimmed using an LDR? If so, turn dimming off - if you have access to the source code, you could turn dimming off briefly when the clock turns on. On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 9:43:48 PM UTC-5 Jeff Walton wrote: > I've recently come across a situation where I have some tubes

[neonixie-l] Re: Helping Nixie Tubes Fire in a Darkened Room

2023-11-30 Thread Jon
I think the best approach would be to increase the HV. If you look at the discussions of glow physics in Weston or Acton for example, the lag in striking a glow from dark (which is what we're talking about here) is reduced by using an anode voltage materially above the threshold striking