Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-09 Thread Mac Doktor
Incomplete sentence... > On Oct 9, 2023, at 4:09 PM, Mac Doktor wrote: > > > Sadly, the alpha particles from ...an alpha source such as a household smoke detector won't make it though the glass. Terry Bowman, KA4HJH "The Mac Doctor" https://www.astarcloseup.com “...the book said

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-09 Thread Mac Doktor
> On Oct 9, 2023, at 3:23 PM, Jim KO5V wrote: > > As suggested, I think the photons from the lamp helped with the ionization > just enough to allow the tube's segments to eventually light up enough to > heal themselves. I don't know about healing but light helps the gas to ionize. I would

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread gregebert
My first nixie clock with 5092 tubes has been running since 2011. I use +340VDC for the anodes, and of course the anode resistors are appropriately increased to give the optimum 2.2mA of current. So, why did I choose 340VDC when the mains here in the US are 120V RMS ? This clock has no

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread Audrey
I thought I had heard/read that lower voltage was better, though a cursory search suggests that the rate of sputtering is nearly directly proportional to current, so that makes sense, the only reason aside from arcing that I could think of would be making the internal wires glow On Sun, Oct 8,

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread liam bartosiewicz
Another note about firing voltage is that in general, using higher voltages for nixies, ie. >200V increases lifespan, assuming the proper anode resistor is used.On Oct 8, 2023, at 11:13 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote:I've noticed a few 7971's needing a couple of hours to fully illuminate after which

[neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread Jim Faulkner
Hi Nick and Ira, and guus, and gregebert and Paul and anyone else I have missed, Thanks for the replies. The light affecting the ionization was what puzzled me, but a couple of you explained that, and it makes sense. I have a way to test the tube on the bench, so maybe I can bring it back that

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread Nicholas Stock
I've noticed a few 7971's needing a couple of hours to fully illuminate after which they're apparently very happy in the long term if in operation. Is this sign of a very small leak or something else? I'm not sure what to make of the 'gassy' term to be honestwere 7971's doped with Hg?NickSent

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread Paul Andrews
I’ve had some of these tubes that require a higher than normal voltage to even trigger. Most people drive nixies at 170V, but this can be a marginal trigger voltage for some tubes and completely insufficient for others such as the GR10G https://www.nixies.us/bwg_gallery/gr10g/ Shining light

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread gregebert
Can you do some bench-testing to see if the segments fully light with a bit more voltage ? I collected current-voltage (I-V) data on all my 7971's so I can check them for aging effects. On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 6:01:55 AM UTC-7 guus.assm...@wolmail.nl wrote: > Hello Jim, > > If you

Re: [neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-08 Thread guus.assm...@wolmail.nl
Hello Jim, If you have a source of UV-light, that will do a good job. Maybe an UV-Led beneath the tube will do the trick BR/ Guus > Op 07-10-2023 19:26 CEST schreef Jim KO5V : > > > I have a B7971 that doesn't want to light up - the ends of some segments will > glow, but none will

[neonixie-l] An odd, but interesting observation of a weak B7971 tube

2023-10-07 Thread Jim KO5V
I have a B7971 that doesn't want to light up - the ends of some segments will glow, but none will illuminate along their entire length. I have had tubes in the past that were probably a bit gassy, and they cleaned up after running for a few minutes to a few hours. So, I put it into the "10