[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Cobra007
Cool project! I have been fascinated by Lissajous curves ever since I know of their existence. You can create very interesting shapes with them and they are easily produced on a computer screen. It's a bit odd to draw straight lines with a combination of sines and cosines, but the result is

[neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
ok, dont worry about it then. But if you ever get the time, just take some photos and post here and ill find it. On 15 ún, 08:56, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote: Ah, ok. And is there a chance youll be able to take some pics? No sorry, too much orders at the moment. No time. Dieter

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Dekatron42
Absolutely wonderful! Is the lisajours system based on the analogue one published in the 60-70s book Electronic Circuits Manual by John Markus or is it your own software/hardware design? (it doesn't look like the analogue design is stuffed inside the case) I'd love to build your clock - please

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Cobra007
During my studies in the mid 80's we made a similar clock in a course about VLIW processors (Very Large Instruction Word) where we also used lisajours to display the numbers on an oscilloscope screen. Did you do that in the same way? I mean, divide a digit (or symbol) into separate segments

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Dekatron42
Michel, Nick is correct it has been around for quite some time. I found out about it since I had an interrest in the large vector screens, like the Tektronix 4010 vector screen, and a few other screens made by computer companies which were hooked up to our large computers in the computer club I

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Jeff Thomas
On Feb 15, 12:42 am, David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net wrote: Folks, I am going to be in San Francisco this Saturday giving a brief talk at the Exploratorium about how I ended up making watches. As a preparation for this talk, I have resurrected my Scope Pocket Watch that I built ten

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread David Forbes
On 2/15/12 4:28 AM, Cobra007 wrote: Did you do that in the same way? I mean, divide a digit (or symbol) into separate segments and compose a Lissajous curve for each segment? I thought it is a very smart and unique way to display numbers on an X- Y system and actually assumed that David himself

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Quixotic Nixotic
On 15 Feb 2012, at 14:55, David Forbes wrote: I don't invent anything. I just make a new version. There are very few actual inventions in the world, despite US patent numbers in the 8 millions. The Latin word invenio means I find out, which is a much better description of the idea than

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread Michail1
I wish I had that problem. :) In a message dated 2/14/2012 11:56:05 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, i...@nocrotec.com writes: No sorry, too much orders at the moment. No time. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to

[neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
btw, do you know why some of the Z566M tubes has the yellow triangle with round corners stamped at back? Does it mean something or its just sign of earlier/later series? On Feb 15, 8:26 am, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: ok, dont worry about it then. But if you ever get the time, just take

[neonixie-l] 10TU26 protote?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
Hi there, does anybody know if there is such a thing as 10TU26 nixies? One guy just told me that he has 5 of these but i cant find any info about it anywhere. They should be equivalent to Z5600M , not sure though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[neonixie-l] Re: 10TU26 protote?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
Thanks for the fast reply! Do you have any indication about how much should i pay for them? Also i found this datasheet, the tube is there just briefly mentioned. I figured out you might be interested since i didnt find it on your site. http://tubedata.tubes.se/sheets/182/z/Z560M.pdf On Feb 15,

[neonixie-l] Re: 10TU26 protote?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
Damn it, i just realized i wrote *protote* instead of prototype! It loor really retarded this way, oh well... :D * On Feb 15, 6:44 pm, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, does anybody know if there is such a thing as 10TU26 nixies? One guy just told me that he has 5 of these but i cant

[neonixie-l] Re: 10TU26 protote?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
btw, it sounds really interesting because the guy said that they have actually written on the side that it is actually a prototype 10TU26 by Tesla. Can somebody tell me what should be the reasonable price for them please? On Feb 15, 8:06 pm, kay486 luckyl...@gmail.com wrote: Damn it, i just

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
The triangle is a very very important sign for Nixie tube collectors. in short: No trinangle: pilot lot (rare tube) 1 in triangle: quality category 1 (best quality) 2 in triangle: quality category 2 (low quality) = in triangle: bad tolerances (only for no-name products ect.) S in triangle:

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Cobra007
There are very few actual inventions in the world, despite US patent numbers in the 8 millions. The Latin word invenio means I find out, which is a much better description of the idea than the implication that you pull something new out of thin air. Well honestly, I do think an invention

[neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
Whoah, thats really interesting! I have about 20 tubes with no triangle, 5 with triangle but with no number in it and 2 that have another number instead of the triangle! Guess im lucky? Here is a picture: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/6883047229_891b1d8cbe_b.jpg On Feb 15, 8:44 pm, Dieter

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
No poroblem man. But whats the triangle without a number and that another triples? Means also pilot lot. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

[neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread kay486
Yea, they have two sets of triples, you can see it in the photo. On Feb 15, 10:06 pm, Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com wrote: No poroblem man. But whats the triangle without a number and that another triples? Means also pilot lot. Dieter -- You received this message because you are

[neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread Dutchgray
Is this numbering system just for Z566M type tubes or does it apply to other WF ones as well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Cobra007
IMO even the original meaning of the word would have included that the 'invention' should be something which is not obvious to other people skilled in the same field. For example, going back 2000 years, I could have found out a road that leads to Rome and claim this as my invention. However, there

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Lucky
I would have to agree with you Michel, just quoting the Latin word's literal meaning (in this case I found out(?)) does not convey the nuances or why/when/how that word was used and it what context. I'm sure we ALL could give examples of Latin words and their literal meaning but without context

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Allen Wisbey
I was on of the lucky ones who acquired a Scope Clock. I have several clocks i am proud of, nixies, vfds. Etc. But the clock that grabs peoples attention most often is the scope clock. David did a wonderful job with the fonts and such, truly a piece of art. On Feb 15, 2012 11:50 AM, Lucky

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Nicholas Stock
Jan Wuesten (http://www.askjanfirst.com/eindex.htm) sells a scope clock kit...I bought one a while ago, but have yet to put it together...) Nick On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Lucky dave.lucky.po...@gmail.com wrote: Now there's something I really want to build (Scope clock) I'm hoping there

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit

2012-02-15 Thread JohnK
What colour haze? I imagine that you would have already mentioned if it is purple. However, if it IS purple, and it being sooo important to be recognised as First around here seemingly :-)) , I want to be First THIS TIME to mention Jimi !! John K. [PS. Background to the comment:- All this

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit

2012-02-15 Thread David Forbes
On 2/15/12 6:06 PM, Dylan Distasio wrote: Hi all- I am using a 50mA PS for the HV piece. Anyways, everything is working great but I notice what I would describe as a kind of light haze around the digits. The digit itself doesn't look like it is flickering but the haze looks like it is. I've

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: two versions of Z566M ?

2012-02-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
Is this numbering system just for Z566M type tubes or does it apply to other WF ones as well? Dioes apply to others as well. Dieter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit

2012-02-15 Thread Dieter Waechter
The purple, pinkish or peachy haze comes from the different additional gases and the mercury inside the tube. You may find out from the spectrum (in some cases) what mixture is in the tube. Second, the lower the Ucc (cold cathode voltage) the higher the haze. And the more blurred the glow. IN

Re: [neonixie-l] Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Dennis
Very nice David! Any thoughts on kits in the future? :) That SC200 scope clock is still ticking away here and that little one would be a great addition. Dennis From: David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday,

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Nick
On Feb 15, 11:54 pm, Cobra007 mic...@xiac.com wrote: ...this method was invented long before the scope pocket watch. I do agree it is indeed very difficult to place a border line as to what is and what is not an invention. Maybe it was easier in Roman times as modern day inventions are indeed

[neonixie-l] Re: Scope Pocket Watch movie

2012-02-15 Thread Nick
On Feb 15, 11:54 pm, Cobra007 mic...@xiac.com wrote: ...this method was invented long before the scope pocket watch. I do agree it is indeed very difficult to place a border line as to what is and what is not an invention. Maybe it was easier in Roman times as modern day inventions are indeed