[neonixie-l] Re: G10/240E (STC) Nomotron added

2010-09-15 Thread johnk
I have 24 pages of STC data for the /241 including driver circuits and relay driving applications. is that data wanted here? [I thought I put it at Yahoo but can't access it to check.] John K. On 14 Sep, 17:48, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: I've uploaded the datasheet for the G10/241 (very very

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: recommendation for anode resistor for 2x2 multiplexed IN-14s @166-170v?

2011-01-20 Thread JohnK
Think of the tubes acting a bit like a zener diode. [Or old-time valve regulators eg VR105 ] Same principle as fluorescent light tubes too for that matter. [And the reason for the Ballast] John K. - Original Message - From: will ossumguyw...@gmail.com Does the resistance of

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IR remote control or Motion Sensor to switch the HV to the display of Jeff Thomas WWVB Clock

2011-01-23 Thread JohnK
Well, what about just switching it on/off? Or use an off-the-shelf mains timer (- electronic or mechanical) ? Or, there is home-automation equipment [X10 etc] that will allow you to operate a mains-switch from various remotes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X10_(industry_standard) And, various

Re: [neonixie-l] Help from a Japanese fellow?

2011-01-24 Thread JohnK
Dieter, try the tubecollectorsassociation (TCA) Yahoo Group too. John K - Original Message - From: Dieter Waechter i...@nocrotec.com do we have Japanese people here in the group? I need some help for forwarding some Nixie tubes to me. I will pay for the work of course. Thanks Dieter

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Ghosting on IN-14s even with long blanking period.

2011-02-07 Thread JohnK
Thanks. Was curious about the non-clock method and whether there is something inherent in the process causing the prob. John K - Original Message - From: will ossumguyw...@gmail.com Also, forgot, my cycle program is very simple, the first tube cycles really fast, every time the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube amperemeter

2011-02-20 Thread JohnK
or a 555. AND I hope he screams his guts out !! :-)) jk - Original Message - From: threeneurons threeneur...@yahoo.com Here's a simple charge pump: http://snipurl.com/23qbkk only 4 parts. 2 10uf caps, and 2 1N4148 diodes. Output roughly -4V. Oh, the input is a 5V squarewave,

Re: [neonixie-l] Sockets (was Modern Nixie tube drivers)

2011-02-22 Thread JohnK
Ball Grid Arrays don't have to be useless for home . If time isn't an issue and money is or it is just some fun,,, [or it is only avail BGA etc] just flip the pack and glue it down. Treat it like COB [chip-on-board] and wire each dot with solder-thru enammeled copper wire. Mount on vector or

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Large nixie display, current discrepancies

2011-03-10 Thread JohnK
But, the 1% resistors make the current measurement easier. John K. - Original Message - On 3/9/11 8:47 AM, Jarek wrote: I purposely bought 1% .5W resistors, and did all the testing with the '8' digit. There's precision, and then there's precision. Nixie tubes are in the 5%

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie tube amperemeter

2011-03-15 Thread JohnK
I have trouble picturing the circuit arrangement; BUT 11V across 5 ohms is 2 Amps which is 20 Watts !! Does the resistor get hot? And where do you get 2 Amps? Your resistor is 5 ohms? John K. - Original Message - From: Jens Boos webmas...@jb-electronics.de clip. This

Re: [neonixie-l] PCB socket footprint for NL-5440A?

2011-03-18 Thread JohnK
Rather than calipers, how about scanning it and importing to your CAD/Drawing program. Then 'draw' over it on a different layer. And, if you need measurements, do them on enlarged diagram with CAD or [shudder] ruler on flat screen? John K. - Original Message - From: koolatron

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Off topic (?)A crazy idea.. ?

2011-06-22 Thread JohnK
What about if it had PCB resist pens instead of fighting with Laser transfers? {An older ink-jet I have also has a flat feed from back to the front for thick card but the thin sharp wheels that touch the printed surface for pressure dissuaded me from trying various inks as resists anyway.

Re: [neonixie-l] US power grid frequency tests.

2011-06-25 Thread JohnK
Maybe you missed this earlier piece of info:- http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5giHrMC9wYlOzOkUg9wNC2jVKugkw?docId=371623ab59694aef9f0a02fe83faca8a john k. - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America iracosa...@hughes.net The mains frequency, at least

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: now a full 7179 clock from the same seller, check out those tubes

2011-06-30 Thread JohnK
Depends on def of 'old-timer' - I am 60 :-) The caps I mentioned caused probs in mid1990s . The life-vs-volts was available in the manufacturer data that the Lab used. Often very detailed spec sheets were sourced from the manufacturers. And capacitor purchases were in the millions - promoted

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: US power grid frequency tests.

2011-07-01 Thread JohnK
Er, are we being sloppy here rounding 17 to 20? Or do the weirder countries [ie not Australia :-)) ] use 20 ? I thought it was bad enough rounding 16 2/3 [16 and two thirds] to 17 ! My home system used a motorised exchange ringer running at 16 2/3 . Had to replace the contacts with standard

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 3000 tubes per year?

2011-07-08 Thread JohnK
OK, so you have just outlined what you can do this weekend.. what are you going to do for the rest of the next week? :-)) John K. [who greatly appreciates that top notch report from you] - Original Message - From: dylan roelofs doktorb...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l

Re: [neonixie-l] List down?

2011-08-13 Thread JohnK
Nope, can't read you :-)) jk - Original Message - From: Jonathan Peakall jpeak...@madlabs.info To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:24 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] List down? No posts for a couple of days. Testing, one, two, three... -- You received this

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with tube bases please...

2011-09-22 Thread JohnK
Dieter, I have just looked in the Electronic Tubes and Semiconductor Elements Universal Vade Mecum vol 1 by Piotr Mikolajczyk, 1960 and quite a few are listed. BTW, a lot of the book is also at Frank's site:- http://www.tubedata.org/ Just to check... these are tubes for radio etc, not Nixies?

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I´m back

2011-11-03 Thread JohnK
Lost me I think, but this group just sends to my normal email address as did the previous. [I didn't use gmail for this and I didn't use yahoo mail for the other]. John K. [PS Didn't miss you :-)) . Just joking.] - Original Message - From: Jan Wuesten To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: I´m back

2011-11-03 Thread JohnK
...clipIn theory, we could move back there, but its a big ask now that several 100 members have moved here. clip Eeeek ! John K [No probs actually - I would go back if that is the decision.] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l

Re: [neonixie-l] Looking for NL-6844A

2011-11-06 Thread JohnK
When you solder sockets to a pcb, you need to have a dummy plug [they were used for normal valve work] or a 'standard' nixie plugged in. The socket pins [of good sockets] can move around a bit. Before pcbs it didn't matter so much. With ordinary valves there are specialised sockets for pcb use.

Re: [neonixie-l] WAY way off topic but they light up...

2011-11-14 Thread JohnK
Didn't our member in UK do a post on the ones he was making that were delaying some other task of his? Mr Quixotic (?) John Smout ? John K Australia - Original Message - From: David Forbes dfor...@dakotacom.net To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:29 AM

Re: [neonixie-l] OT: PICkit3 issues...

2011-11-24 Thread JohnK
Did you check out cable/connector intermittent problems? Have you done any PicKit s/w upgrades? John K. - Original Message - From: jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 6:14 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] OT: PICkit3

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: 555 power supply not working

2011-11-24 Thread JohnK
Ages ago someone {Nick D ?} suggested a better modern FET. If you really get stuck I can mail parts to you from Australia. For example check this supplier :- http://au.element14.com/ John K. - Original Message - From: Imbanon imba.a...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l

Re: [neonixie-l] Tube voltage

2011-12-08 Thread JohnK
If I'm not mistaken the tube sets its voltage. If I say 'zener diode', does that help a bit ? Or forward bias voltage of an 'ordinary' diode. the lamp will see the full 200V (or more). Doesn't that damage the lamps? If there is a large enough current path the gasses will ionise and exhibit

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.

2012-01-06 Thread JohnK
Notice the website on the photo? John K. - Original Message - From: Nick n...@desmith.net To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 7:28 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Where can I send customers for 12VDC wall-warts in UK in particular, EU in general.

2012-01-07 Thread JohnK
When that HDD topic was discussed somewhere [here?] there was a post saying that the actual device was used as part of an in-dash system. The 'flash drive' was acceptable. However, that didn't answer the addition of weights in the form of big nuts. IIRC the topic related to imports to Russia?

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing problems (low current)

2012-01-09 Thread JohnK
Is that a typo :- Step 3 - is that a typo and you actually mean 1mS ? or do you mean 1ms ? John K. - Original Message - ...clip... 3. wait for 1uS ...clip Step 3 - is that a typo and you actually mean 1mS ? ...clip. Chris -- You received this message because you are

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing problems (low current)

2012-01-09 Thread JohnK
that clears it. ...clip Now please go ahead and spit on me for using an arduino. Sigh.. Cheers people On Jan 10, 12:48 am, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: Is that a typo :- Step 3 - is that a typo and you actually mean 1mS ? or do you mean 1ms ? John K. - Original Message - ...clip

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Multiplexing problems (low current)

2012-01-10 Thread JohnK
Yeah I know about Siemens. Its just that I have this bad habbit writing ms as mS from college. You are actually the first ones to notice this and got confused, so I guess I should stop doing that. No confusion. Actually Chris was querying your micro- versus milli- second. No one was really

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Preferred language, and a good place to start.

2012-01-13 Thread JohnK
Ask Microsoft. They ship buggy software, and make a pretty good living off of it. Err, no !I think you are referring to their feature-full software. John K. - Original Message - From: threeneurons threeneur...@yahoo.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Preferred language, and a good place to start.

2012-01-13 Thread JohnK
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:59 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Preferred language, and a good place to start. No, I worked there. Trust me, the bug tracking database for any version of windows is astonishingly full. ...clip... On 1/13/2012 12:40 AM, JohnK

[neonixie-l] valve data book price

2012-01-22 Thread JohnK
I saw this referred to on the WS19 Group. Ebay item 270895509819 seems to be an AVO valve data manual 4th ed. However the current bids are at GBP 631 which is around AU$900. There is still more than a day to go if anyone wants to grab a bargain:-)) John K Australia -- You received

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hello from Sydney

2012-01-29 Thread JohnK
Hmmm, I am in Australia too btw and have followed since your first post. I wonder if you have picked up some of the local colloquialisms yet - 'having tickets on yourself' and 'having someone load the gun for you but you pulling the trigger' come to mind. John Kaesehagen Australia [PS... Do a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Hello from Sydney

2012-01-30 Thread JohnK
Maybe dump the caps via an inductance [hopefully low R losses?]. Maybe monitor the current and switch it off as some of the H-bridge motor drivers do? Except that uses some wasteful circuitry to achieve it. John K. - Original Message - From: John Rehwinkel jreh...@mac.com

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nuts and Volts.

2012-02-03 Thread JohnK
There was a classic instance here in Australia in either ETI, EA or Si C. Apparently a disgruntled employee in a government or semi govt org [eg CSIRO ?] sent in more than one 'silly' in the name of the technical head of the section. The one that comes to mind was a suggestion for mounting

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch madness

2012-02-05 Thread JohnK
Sooo, back to my idea of surgical implants? John K. - Original Message - From: Jeff Thomas nixich...@gmail.com ...clip.. AFAIK, there are very few women (or even fewer ladies) who would wear a bulky watch of any kind in public. ...clip... Regards, Jeff -- You received this

[neonixie-l] tube machinery etc sale

2012-02-05 Thread JohnK
Saw this posted by Seth on TCA Group:- Aspen Pittman is selling off machine tools, and vacuum tube parts on eBay. These were from the Owensboro GE plant. They include grid forming machines, sealers, evacuation pumps, etc. Price (bidding) starts at $30K for all? Most of the NOS USA parts are

Re: [neonixie-l] www.gstube.com - Real or ripoff ?

2012-02-06 Thread JohnK
I am interested in this seller too. There are two Russian sites that look extremely similar and one of them has a weirdo CRT that I would like. I held off ordering because they would only accept direct cash via a service I have not used or know about OR via Western Union. I feel much happier

Re: [neonixie-l] www.gstube.com - Real or ripoff ?

2012-02-06 Thread JohnK
Ah, that is reassuring; I must check if Anton still has the CRT I want. Pity that stories of 'baddies' out there make us so wary of everyone ! John K - Original Message - From: John Rehwinkel jreh...@mac.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 2:03 PM

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie clock with vacuum tubes

2012-02-07 Thread JohnK
And on that subject, I have an in-house/tech publication from one of the tube makers [Mullard?] that states that from a certain date they used the improved cathode in all their tubes anyway. [The improved cathode was the one they used in the computer tubes to overcome the sleeping-sickness].

Re: [neonixie-l] Question on haze around nixie digit

2012-02-15 Thread JohnK
What colour haze? I imagine that you would have already mentioned if it is purple. However, if it IS purple, and it being sooo important to be recognised as First around here seemingly :-)) , I want to be First THIS TIME to mention Jimi !! John K. [PS. Background to the comment:- All this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch prototype in ABS with key parts

2012-04-07 Thread JohnK
I don't think that it is fair or nice to keep raising issues of motives/ulterior-motives. It spoils the general enjoyment as far as I am concerned. Most of us are good enough at generating conspiracy theories as it is :-)), and we are bright enough to not need the help thanks. Opinions for

[neonixie-l] Nixie life specs

2012-04-25 Thread JohnK
I have noticed many discussions about the lifetime specifications of Nixies. I haven't noticed anyone quoting the manufacturer definition of lifetime - but I may have missed it. So, read on ... Electronic Counting circuits techniques devices , Mullard Limited, October 1967. approx. 220

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie life specs

2012-04-25 Thread JohnK
! On Apr 25, 10:26 am, JohnK yend...@internode.on.net wrote: clip... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group, send an email to neonixie-l@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to neonixie

Re: [neonixie-l] Digest for neonixie-l@googlegroups.com - 8 Messages in 4 Topics

2012-04-25 Thread JohnK
Are you using their definition of fail. They say when any character is unable to be covered completely but they don't define just how visible the 'non-covered' area is. Their spec also has to be either for the worst-case production scenario or a statistical value eg perhaps the Bogey value

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie life specs

2012-04-26 Thread JohnK
I have just today received a second copy, but with cracking spine - so I am happy to force it flat on the scanner. If anyone knows of an on-line copy please shout before I go to the trouble ! Nick, maybe you want to quote the Mullard book on the Wiki. The chapter starts page 177. John K.

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie thermometer in Elektor journal

2012-07-04 Thread JohnK
I have an old 'condenser' marked in cm [centimetre/centimeter]. One recent doc explaining this early use of centimeter ... http://web.mit.edu/sahughes/www/8.022/lec06.pdf In cgs units, we measure charge in esu and potential in esu/cm. The unit of capacitance is thus just the centimeter! jk

Re: [neonixie-l] Steampunk Nixie Watch battery life

2012-07-15 Thread JohnK
Nice report [and I like the tone]. That photo of watch is interesting - I hadn't looked at yours before; was waiting for firm results. Good job, congrats John K Australia - Original Message - From: Michel mic...@xiac.com To: neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, July

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 Nixie Clock on BBC for coming Olympic Games

2012-07-18 Thread JohnK
There are applications available on-line to allow overseas people to view BBC [expatriots use them]. one is Expat Shield allows you to Watch UK TV online outside of UK. You can now watch BBC iplayer from anywhere in the world. John K. - Original Message - From: Tidak Ada To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-15 Thread JohnK
From my experience of modern devices I suspected that they are extinct. John K. [Some background in industrial engineering, ergonomics and design-for-manufacture (which of course musn't nullify the user and repairer aspects).] Yeah I know repair, what's that? Goes to show my age.

Re: [neonixie-l] RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread JohnK
I thought that the 'dead' band for 232 was -3V to +3V. I have used 5V with printers and modems of the 1970s/80s. Some 'cheap' RS232 drivers only used -5V and Gnd.eg the Microbee computer. Over short distances all sorts of liberties can be taken - it works; just don't call it 232 ! John

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread JohnK
RS232 spec is a range of voltage. There is a spec for the max supply volts and a clarification for the 'logic' level. eg -16 to -3 is one 'level' and +3 to +16 is the other. [I'll dig out my copy if needed.] Many receivers don't implement the dead area and some don't require the change of

Re: [neonixie-l] My first two-digit Nixie tube!

2012-10-18 Thread JohnK
They are cute ! Make more and do a Binary Clock. Use relays/valves if you don't want to rig semis for the 550V+ . John K Australia - Original Message - From: jb-electronics webmas...@jb-electronics.de To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:26 AM

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OT - Raspberry Pi $25 credit card size Unix box

2012-10-28 Thread JohnK
Just noticed this posted on a WS19 group by a G3:- Yet another noisy piece of kit to mess up the airwaves. I plugged in my new Raspberry computer. It seems to work OK but then I read the back of the slip of paper that fell out of the box (the only paperwork supplied in fact). It's EMC compliant

Re: [neonixie-l] Harwell Computer

2012-11-20 Thread JohnK
That is what I remember hearing. I offered them tubes on their list and a lead on the trigger tubes they needed - got the intial discussion and then nothing. At that stage the message was that they needed a whole complement of tubes. BUT, they must actually have had the bulk of them already

Re: [neonixie-l] Harwell Computer

2012-11-21 Thread JohnK
So, did they actually have most of the tubes already? I can't imagine them finding such a quantity of some of them. John K - Original Message - From: Jon To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Harwell Computer

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sgitheach web page update

2012-12-11 Thread JohnK
Valve [tube] filaments [heaters/cathodes in this case] generally do not have life extended by running lower power. Cathode emission is complex and heater should be run within the specs. That spec is not just to achieve maximum rated emission. Some oscilloscopes had a connection for cathode

Re: [neonixie-l] Multiplexing nixies in a tube preamplifier

2013-01-04 Thread JohnK
I would have thought that with 10 being the maximum loudness then having one that goes to 11 for extra loudness would be marvellous ! For anyone who hasn't heard the joke http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up_to_eleven John K. - Original Message - From: Michel van der Meij To:

[neonixie-l] clock

2013-01-11 Thread JohnK
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Re: [neonixie-l] Re: MTX-90 in counting circuit?

2013-01-31 Thread JohnK
When the subject came up on TCA a few years back I pointed to the published statement... it was generally agreed there that all companies used improved cathodes. I don't remember whether anyone came up with a black and white statement like the one I had. I'll ask again. A quick look at Kohl

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Circuit diagram for the Russian A-201 polyatron?

2013-02-16 Thread JohnK
I am keen to get an OCR for Russian [to scan a book on avionics and aircraft instruments and translate it] Any tips appreciated. John K. - Original Message - From: Marcin marcin.r.adam...@gmail.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:15 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [neonixie-l] Janus the two-faced nixie?

2013-04-08 Thread JohnK
I like the NOS definitions. see item 121091873560 There is a line lower down Actual NOS (Some Tubes Test NOS but have a few hours on them): No Have a look at the envelope ! I guess NOS can mean 'old valve in the box the new one came out of.' John K. - Original Message -

Re: [neonixie-l] Testing nixies/dekatrons/neon bulbs without powersuply

2013-04-20 Thread JohnK
I haven't tried, but scope clock is likely a relatively low voltage compared to TV screens. My old 5BP1 tube works OK at less than 2kV and the old b/w TVs were say 10kV and colour say 25kV. John K. - Original Message - From: Sture Nystrom nystrom.st...@gmail.com To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie driver problem when going over 170 VDC

2013-05-14 Thread JohnK
Sergio, I am not sure if you think that Per is having a go at you. He won't be. If you look back at the topics in this group at both Google Groups and at Yahoo Groups you will find a lot of discussion of power supply merits and pitfalls. Maybe you have not been in the group for very long; those

Re: [neonixie-l] 866 Mercury Vapor Rectifier as Novelty Lamp

2013-05-29 Thread JohnK
Much UV leak out do you think? John K - Original Message - From: threeneurons To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:03 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] 866 Mercury Vapor Rectifier as Novelty Lamp I went to the TRW swap meet on Saturday, and picked up a

Re: [neonixie-l] 866 Mercury Vapor Rectifier as Novelty Lamp

2013-05-29 Thread JohnK
The small QI/Halogen downlight globes come/came in a couple of styles one with the small QI/Halogen lamp at the centre of the reflector and open at the front; the other had a glass plate across the mouth / front of the reflector. That glass is for UV reduction. Don't know if it is special

Re: [neonixie-l] Help needed with taylor 1363 smps

2013-07-16 Thread JohnK
So much for using webmail [I don't see quoted text]... I went off to look at the data after reading Tony's post and the reply went to John R's post ; he already said the main thing - DC. Try a battery? And maybe just a resistor from enable to rail I should have said. Have you made a

Re: [neonixie-l] Another progress in making nixies

2013-09-10 Thread JohnK
Dalibor I posted a copy of this at the Tube Collectors Association group - hope you are OK with that. Congratulations on the work - I have followed your posts and said little. I am very envious. John Kaesehagen Australia - Original Message - From: Dalibor Farný To:

Re: [neonixie-l] WW 2 IFF transponder.

2014-01-01 Thread JohnK
One of the early installations in Brit a/c had the on/off switch up behind the pilot's head. He had gloves too ! And, guess what? The destruct switch was just there too and not shrouded. Many IFF lost through accidental BOOM! Hard to believe the design [even though they were obviously rushed].

Re: [neonixie-l] WW 2 IFF transponder. Nixie Test equipment.

2014-01-04 Thread JohnK
I am interested in pics of insides if possible sometime... direct to me if you don't want to clutter up Nixie :-) John K. Adelaide, Australia - Original Message - From: lai...@wcoil.com To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com ...clip It really disturbs me that I can't find the IFF

Re: [neonixie-l] My latest clock

2014-01-04 Thread JohnK
Hey - Cute! Glad you quoted the inspiration or I/we may have thought you watch too many zombie etc movies [or games]. Developments:- The pcb in the mouth could be shaped as [or inserted in] a bone(s) along the lines of skull-and-crossbones. Or, the pcb could be flexible and wrap-around the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Classic nixie/neon books in reprint...

2014-01-09 Thread JohnK
Thanks for that; but the email is quite weird looking - I copy/pasted into word pad and is now quite readable. John K Australia - Original Message - From: Nick To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 3:25 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Classic nixie/neon

Re: [neonixie-l] 2 Hickok Ford Vehicle Simulator Analog computers

2014-02-04 Thread JohnK
Way back in '69 I used boot eyelets soldered into PCBs for the 4mm sockets. Didn't get a cheap solution to the plugs though. None of the bent metal, springy-wire ideas survived use. One idea that nearly worked was a smaller eyelet for the socket and very flexible meter lead cable for the leads/

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trigger tube equivilents

2014-03-27 Thread JohnK
Depends on how and where you disconnected the trigger - may need to load down that pin. Can you confirm that lifting the wiper DOES trigger the tube? You could set up the right conditions on the other pins [including trigger] and then interrupt that circuit manually. If it is a 'glitch' from

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trigger tube equivilents

2014-03-27 Thread JohnK
equivilents Hi right I have broken the circuit to the solenoid from the cathode of the gr44 all other wiring reconnected as schematic it does indeed fire the gr44 and the solenoid if momentary disconnected so that does seem to be the source of the fault. Bob On 27 Mar 2014 09:33, JohnK yend

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trigger tube equivilents

2014-03-28 Thread JohnK
I still haven't looked closely to see what the wiper and track is and where it is on the schematic. That said, my capacitor suggestion wasn't worded that way. I suggest that the capacitor is wired such that one end is to the wiper arm and the other end is to the track that the wiper arm is

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: trigger tube equivilents

2014-03-28 Thread JohnK
Thanks for the pic of the wiper. I trust the Electrolube brand products - http://www.electrolube.com/ Others swear by a very expensive American cleaner/lubricator. That one has cheap constituants that are marketed cheaply by others but those brands don't have the 'magic' apparently. The

Re: [neonixie-l] light effecting GR43's?????

2014-04-19 Thread JohnK
Did you follow the recent discussions re lights and UV LEDs ? John K. - Original Message - From: bob harper To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 11:46 PM Subject: [neonixie-l] light effecting GR43's? hi all, GR43's effected by light??? this

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-28 Thread JohnK
I was about to reply the same then I started to think about what I could actually quote. This implies that a cathode gets activated after assemby and after/during pumping. What is the chemical during construction? What is the chemical during operation? What is the chemical after later

Re: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations?

2014-04-29 Thread JohnK
: [neonixie-l] Neon size limitations? Quoth JohnK at 2014-04-29 11:37 ... ... What is the chemical after later exposure to air? And is oxygen the problem? (And does the problem apply to more recent CRTs.) Just pondering whether it might be possible to broach the vacuum under a gas flood

[neonixie-l] News Flash - Do you collect tubes or semiconductors?

2014-04-29 Thread JohnK
Many of your tubes probably should be in your semiconductor collection. And, if semiconductor is a dirty word, then in the bin ! Reference:- Kohl, Materials and Techniques for Electron Tubes A completely revised edition of Materials Technology for Electron Tubes., 1960, Reinhold. Page 551

Re: [neonixie-l] About this type edge lit display.

2014-05-20 Thread JohnK
Morris, maybe try having an idle current in all the lamps - just at the filament starts glowing point [not visibly glowing]. Re LEDs, I noticed some small LED Xmas lights that had a bezel with an inverted cone - apex pointing at the LED. They spread light around 'differently'. John K. -

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Frosted Metal Case Instead of This Shiny One?

2014-06-09 Thread JohnK
Steel wool is good too - especially for rounded/curved surfaces. Needs extra care at the start and lift-off points; a bit of practice fixes that. I am not keen on the finish produced by steel wool in a drill press giving lots of 'brushed' circular areas. John K. - Original Message -

Re: [neonixie-l] What type/size of plug for power supply of clock?

2014-07-13 Thread JohnK
Yes, the 2.1 and 2.5 are hard to tell apart. At least yours has the bifurcated centre pin. There are so many brands and variations about you can have trouble with intermittent connection. A couple of years back I found that the selection at the local parts stores [Jaycar, Altronics,Aztronics

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Finally, an LM Ericsson RYG10 coaxial Trochotron up and running!

2014-09-28 Thread JohnK
This is interesting stuff.. thanks John K - Original Message - From: Dekatron42 To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:09 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] Re: Finally, an LM Ericsson RYG10 coaxial Trochotron up and running! I just added a movie

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Finished restoring a TIMEON 2000, motor driven Nixie clock from 1968!

2014-10-07 Thread JohnK
On the subject of lubricating plastics... Nylon expands if it absorbs oils and greases [mineral vs vegetable ? i didn't check]. This means that certain nylon assemblies can bind. The usual lubricant seen on plastic gears is a grease with a filler ... like the white grease used on curtain tracks

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-07 Thread JohnK
I want to place a fan underneath the clock to draw out this hot air, otherwise the life of the clock will not be as long as it will without the heat. Hot air 'rises' ie is pushed up by denser air. Pulling hot air down is not as effective as helping it go 'up'. AND, wherever you are moving

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-11 Thread JohnK
EEEk!!! Soldering is a skill... don't let him anywhere near it. Inspecting solder joints is not easy, especially for novices. I predict cooked board, delaminated tracks, overheated components John K Australia - Original Message - From: Tidak Ada To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-11 Thread JohnK
I don't know why the FET was replaced. Either it was bad out-of-box, or the assembler ... Or it was just a late-arriving component and no problem at all. AND, way back at the beginning...otherwise the life of the clock will not be as long as it will without the heat. Whilst in general terms

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-12 Thread JohnK
trichloroethylene more likely... sweet green death !! I fought for many years here to have cigarettes, this and a bunch of other chemicals banned in government workplaces - I wasn't popular. John K Australia - Original Message - From: Instrument Resources of America

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

2014-10-12 Thread JohnK
Oh c'mon! You really left pin 17 U72 looking like THAT! :-) John K [PS :-)) :-)) ] - Original Message - From: Terry Kennedy To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie Clock Cool Project- a few questions

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Awesome new Nixie Tube Z568M Replica on Ebay

2014-10-20 Thread JohnK
I will prepare a short video and show You what all is behind Looking forward to that. And, the TCA guys should be interested too. John K -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

Re: [neonixie-l] Small nixie tube + lens != large nixie tube

2014-12-12 Thread JohnK
What about the lens that is half a cylinder [like in old calculator displays] ? I have a half inch high one.. must go look at the distortion [and maybe should have done it before posting - but I have to find it first!] john K - Original Message - From: gregebert To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: KLOK K7 broken from corrosive rot

2014-12-20 Thread JohnK
There are no-clean fluxes that definitely cause no probs in twenty-odd years that I have observed them. And water wash ones too. BUT they need very 'fresh' components for them to be OK in manufacturing. [Speaking from experience in an electronics factory]. John k. - Original Message

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: For Steampunk Nixie Clock Fans..

2015-02-19 Thread JohnK
Hey Paul, love that thing ! It is sooo nice I won't ask you what you killed to get the gyro :-(( [I have an interest in servo-systems, guidance, nav-aids etc ] John K Australia - Original Message - From: Paul Parry To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19,

Re: [neonixie-l] Dalibor's Nixie tube: R|Z568M

2015-02-12 Thread JohnK
Maybe I am missing something when it comes to the way this works, but, when it is not a vacuum as is required for a valve/tube then what about the idea of pump a bit, add some of the eventual gas, pump again etc. The original impurities would distribute 'evenly' through the added gas and when

Re: [neonixie-l] Plasma Globe Substitute

2015-03-05 Thread JohnK
GREEN for a voltage wire? What is the first tube's number? John K [PS nice toy.] - Original Message - From: 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 5:07 AM Subject: [neonixie-l] Plasma Globe Substitute Last week, I went

Re: [neonixie-l] Plasma Globe Substitute

2015-03-05 Thread JohnK
I was querying the choice of colour for a wire that has voltage. In this part of the world Green is associated with earth/ground. [Although Green/Yellow has overtaken it.] John K Australia - Original Message - From: 'threeneurons' via neonixie-l neonixie-l@googlegroups.com To:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OT: Do any long-life magic eye tubes exist ?

2015-03-13 Thread JohnK
How about the very miniature display tubes in [old] vid cam eyepieces then? John K Australia - Original Message - From: gregebert To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 5:12 AM Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] Re: OT: Do any long-life magic eye tubes exist ?

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Need help with a tubehobby clock overheating

2015-03-28 Thread JohnK
I didn't look closely when I mentioned about how to properly use heatsink compound. Was it hot before you added the heatsink? Was it hotter after? You pondered why the heatsink might make it hotter:- Someone mentioned maybe glue conducting. I mentioned the glue might insulate the heat.

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