Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky

2015-08-31 Thread helen varley jamieson
i agree that this current crisis has been coming for a long time; many things have contributed to it, & events probably could have played out in various different ways, but the combination of environmental and political factors have been leading towards this for a long time. i agree with alan that

Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky

2015-08-30 Thread Johannes Birringer
dear all this could be a complex conversation, if opened up to those, especially, who are concerned in fact, but cannot access this network No refugees are posting here. yes? so what are we discussing? I am sorry i brought it up, as we are fumbling, obviously. The refugee question, I

Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky

2015-08-30 Thread Michael Szpakowski
for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky dear all this could be a complex conversation, if opened up to those, especially, who are concerned in fact, but cannot access

Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky

2015-08-30 Thread Alan Sondheim
I think the situation's incredibly complicated and not helped by real guilt or blame constantly placed, as if righteous anger does more than express itself; it's interesting that ISIS isn't even mentioned in this discussion, as if the entire situation is the result of neoliberal

Re: [NetBehaviour] dismal news: After the Last Sky

2015-08-30 Thread Alan Sondheim
Perhaps the difference is that I think ISIS would have emerged in spite of everything; if you look at the relationship between climate change and that area of the world, you find it running out of water, food, combined w/ population increase; all of this plays a major role there. The