Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-05 Thread mez breeze
Thanks, Rob:) On Mon, Oct 5, 2015 at 7:03 AM, Rob Myers wrote: > On 03/10/15 05:55 PM, mez breeze wrote: > > ...fairly sure there ain't no hipsters troll-watching > > netwurker.livejournal.com [ie I'm so > > post-o'skool even retro-fashion

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-05 Thread aharon
etbehaviour.org wrote: > > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 11:10:35 -0700 > From: Rob Myers <r...@robmyers.org> > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org>, Patrick Lichty <p...@voyd.com>, > a...@aharonic.net S

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-05 Thread Annie Abrahams
Hi Ruth, just you ... I think it might be a good idea to set up a meeting with those who want to continue this conversation. Where? That's up to Ruth and Marc I think. I'll come whereever they go. (and then I decided to write to you only Ruth) I want to be bothered less and less with testing new

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-05 Thread ruth catlow
Dear EVERYONE I'm sticking to this subject header - cos it tickles me that Geert (gawd bless 'im) started all of this (admittedly inadvertently)- and I want to keep the thread intact. (Though I agree Randal that we move on...soon) Annie, let's talk back-channel about possible guests - thank

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-05 Thread John Hopkins
Randall's offer to host another gathering on his platform is a good one. Then we may set up a parallel place and invite you all to come and test. And if any of you wanted to do the same- go for it. Hey, we could meet in VisitorStudio :-) That can be an interesting 'conversation' ... as you

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-04 Thread Kenneth Fields
:netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org>>, > Patrick Lichty <p...@voyd.com <mailto:p...@voyd.com>>, > a...@aharonic.net <mailto:a...@aharonic.net> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert > Lovink > Message-ID: <f1d3bbb2-4ef6-

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-04 Thread Randall Packer
. No? From: <netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org> on behalf of Kenneth Fields Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Date: Sunday, October 4, 2015 at 9:14 AM To: <netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geer

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread ruth catlow
Great point and idea Aharon! Indeed, I wonder how a change in the system might actually occur? A changing day? Right now- I find myself favouring the last thing anyone writes: ) Perhaps we could set up a time to discuss via live chat or google hangouts or somesuch with anyone interested.

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Patrick Lichty
Actually, while not a solution, I think a Diaspora node would be a great experiment. On 10/3/15, 2:05 PM, "aharon" wrote: >Hiyas, > >Very interesting quick mapping of possibilities, Rob + Patrick - Cheers! > >Had some failed attempts linked with mailinglist and web oriented

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
Aharon, these are great ideas! What I gather in essence is that there are ways to devise a system that gives options, multiple channels that are interconnected so that everyone can use their medium of choice. That’s what I was implying in a previous post but you articulated it more directly and

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
behaviour@netbehaviour.org> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink Great point and idea Aharon! >Indeed, I wonder how a change in the system might actually occur? A changing day? Right now- I find myself favouring the last thing anyone writes: ) P

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread aharon
Hiyas, Very interesting quick mapping of possibilities, Rob + Patrick - Cheers! Had some failed attempts linked with mailinglist and web oriented self hosted "solutions".. * Bridge between a mailinglist where each post becomes a blog-post that is in turn being published on a twitter-like

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Rob Myers
Or GNU social[1]. I can host us a node. -Rob [1] - I'm a member of the project and therefore biased. ;-) On 3 October 2015 03:34:36 GMT-07:00, Patrick Lichty wrote: >Actually, while not a solution, I think a Diaspora node would be a >great >experiment. > >On 10/3/15, 2:05 PM,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread mez breeze
...fairly sure there ain't no hipsters troll-watching netwurker.livejournal.com [ie I'm so post-o'skool even retro-fashion slips right on by. ;)]. On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > On 02/10/15 10:01 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > > > > 4. Hosted Free Software > >

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Patrick Lichty
Rob, I think that as usual, you¹re brilliant. The metric tracking idea seems OK, maybe, but might be a bit of a red herring. All: I think that Furtherfield is at a pivotal moment similar to the institutionalization moment of Rhizome, where it asked; ³How can we have maximum imapact/reach, etc?²

[NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-02 Thread ruth catlow
Thanks Rob for your solutionist approach. I knew about groupserver but not discourse. So now in the new spirit of openness... Another ongoing and mildly anxt-ridden backroom discussion at Furtherfield HQ (first think Google and then try to imagine the opposite) is about an approach to

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-02 Thread Randall Packer
Ruth, let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Perhaps a small “communications” advisory group to look at what is out there and advise. It may not be as expensive as you think with advice and support from the Furtherfield community. The social networking behind all of this and the

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-02 Thread Rob Myers
On 02/10/15 04:03 AM, ruth catlow wrote: > > Furtherfield HQ (first think Google and then try to imagine the > opposite) An open-ended and non-enclosed structure with no basketball courts or free candy vending machines? > Two issues > 1) the cost and time associated with strategising,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-02 Thread Rob Myers
On 02/10/15 10:01 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > > 4. Hosted Free Software > > Use Wordpress for publishing, see if lurk.org will host Netbehaviour on > their Groupserver install, and use an existing GNU social install or irc > for co-ord/chat. Oh I forgot: 5. Cryptoculture Use ipfs to publish,