Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread ruth catlow
Great point and idea Aharon! Indeed, I wonder how a change in the system might actually occur? A changing day? Right now- I find myself favouring the last thing anyone writes: ) Perhaps we could set up a time to discuss via live chat or google hangouts or somesuch with anyone interested.

Re: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
Annie, I am with you: the email list is a tried and true system of discourse. However, after lengthy conversations with Ruth and Marc about the importance of reaching out to younger generations, many of whom have basically stopped using email and have shifted to other forms of communications,

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Patrick Lichty
Actually, while not a solution, I think a Diaspora node would be a great experiment. On 10/3/15, 2:05 PM, "aharon" wrote: >Hiyas, > >Very interesting quick mapping of possibilities, Rob + Patrick - Cheers! > >Had some failed attempts linked with mailinglist and web oriented

Re: [NetBehaviour] Sign up to Quality Metrics now

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
This should go on the Furtherfield mission statement! Brilliantly subversive: what Craig Saper calls the “intimate bureaucracy.” On 10/3/15, 5:41 AM, "ruth catlow" wrote: >a Situationist networked performance

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
Aharon, these are great ideas! What I gather in essence is that there are ways to devise a system that gives options, multiple channels that are interconnected so that everyone can use their medium of choice. That’s what I was implying in a previous post but you articulated it more directly and

Re: [NetBehaviour] NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2502, Issue 1

2015-10-03 Thread Kenneth Fields
hi, I’ve been reading Weiner’s “human use of human beings.” around pages 120-2, he’s talking about legacy and infrastructure issues which you could certainly apply to the technology of the listserv itself. Countries are at a disadvantage when upgrading infrastructure/weapons/transportation as

Re: [NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
Alan, it is so interesting to talk about the depth of discussion in the context of a text-based environment. Perhaps you are right, but it reminds me of the MOO user environments in the early 90s, when people were having this same argument about virtual reality: that text-based multi-user

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Randall Packer
Ruth, if you like, we can use my Adobe Connect account if there is interest in a live session. From: on behalf of ruth catlow Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Date: Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 6:41 AM To:

Re: [NetBehaviour] Sign up to Quality Metrics now

2015-10-03 Thread ruth catlow
Ha hah! I posted this link to give everyone a little peak through our window at the daily stream of 'opportunities' (that feel like veiled threats) that daily flood the inbox of the UK publicly funded arts org at the moment. It's connected to the other parallel discussion going on here about

Re: [NetBehaviour] Sign up to Quality Metrics now

2015-10-03 Thread Annie Abrahams
invited by the Arts Council - is it a way for "them" to surveil, to know who merits money next year? can Furtherfield say "no"? embrace extend and ironise On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 5:28 AM, Rob Myers wrote: > On 02/10/15 07:32 AM, ruth catlow wrote: > > Should Furtherfield

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread aharon
Hiyas, Very interesting quick mapping of possibilities, Rob + Patrick - Cheers! Had some failed attempts linked with mailinglist and web oriented self hosted "solutions".. * Bridge between a mailinglist where each post becomes a blog-post that is in turn being published on a twitter-like

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Rob Myers
Or GNU social[1]. I can host us a node. -Rob [1] - I'm a member of the project and therefore biased. ;-) On 3 October 2015 03:34:36 GMT-07:00, Patrick Lichty wrote: >Actually, while not a solution, I think a Diaspora node would be a >great >experiment. > >On 10/3/15, 2:05 PM,

Re: [NetBehaviour] NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 2502, Issue 1

2015-10-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
I agree re below (as far as I understand it, just coming back from NY); email btw goes all the way back to the origins of the Net (I have the two earliest manuals on how to use the Net here), around 45 years ago. The reason is that discussion works, that it opens vistas, that it creates an

Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread mez breeze
...fairly sure there ain't no hipsters troll-watching netwurker.livejournal.com [ie I'm so post-o'skool even retro-fashion slips right on by. ;)]. On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > On 02/10/15 10:01 PM, Rob Myers wrote: > > > > 4. Hosted Free Software > >

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[NetBehaviour] ESU http://www.alansondheim.org/ESU.jpg

2015-10-03 Thread Alan Sondheim
ESU http://www.alansondheim.org/ESU.jpg repetition: the USE of letters, the reversal of letters. then maybe do something then do the reversal again. make sure you don't end up anywhere near the same place. then think about lines in elliptic geometry and where you would put the separations.

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Re: [NetBehaviour] Solutionism Re: An interview with Geert Lovink

2015-10-03 Thread Patrick Lichty
Rob, I think that as usual, you¹re brilliant. The metric tracking idea seems OK, maybe, but might be a bit of a red herring. All: I think that Furtherfield is at a pivotal moment similar to the institutionalization moment of Rhizome, where it asked; ³How can we have maximum imapact/reach, etc?²