Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-25 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Chavdar Ivanov: > > I boot - from the laptop F9 - select efi file to boot - bootx64.efi. > boot.cfg is on the root filesystem, as usual. The two Linux > installations on the same disk have some grub, but I don't use it to > boot anything besides them. It all just came to pass without any >

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-25 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
I boot - from the laptop F9 - select efi file to boot - bootx64.efi. boot.cfg is on the root filesystem, as usual. The two Linux installations on the same disk have some grub, but I don't use it to boot anything besides them. It all just came to pass without any problems for me on this laptop, as

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Jason Mitchell: > > How do you set up to boot NetBSD using UEFI? > > I am trying to set up UEFI to boot FreeBSD, NetBSD, and future installation > > of Linux, even Haiku if I can cross-compile that. > > I succeeded booting FreeBSD by UEFI, but NetBSD attempt hung early (8.99.46 >

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Thomas Mueller
> I am using grub2 to manage the boot. The way the system installer works > on the laptop I had to install windows first because the installer would > error if the partitioning was not exactly what it wanted, then shrink > the windows partition, installed fedora which brought along grunb 2 then >

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Mayuresh
On Tue, Jun 25, 2019 at 07:47:12AM +0930, Brett Lymn wrote: > -- > Sent from my NetBSD device. OT. Like that signature. Have been thinking of making this one myself. Always wondered why people have a signature that says sent from my xphone or ypad etc. Some claimed it was to indicate use of a

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Brett Lymn
On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 05:58:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > > I multi-boot my laptop NetBSD/Linux/Windows 10 using uefi & grub2. > > How do you set up to boot NetBSD using UEFI? > I am using grub2 to manage the boot. The way the system installer works on the laptop I had to install

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Chavdar Ivanov
Another fairly regular and reasonably happy NetBSD laptop user here. HP Envy 17" 2016 vintage with Intel 530 graphics and NVidia GeForce 950M, latter detected, but unsuported. Intel DRM accelerated graphics now works very well, with only a few disappearing horizontal streaks with gdm and kdm (xdm

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi, David Brownlee wrote: I'm another NetBSD ThinkPad user - T530 which is supported quite well. My main use is IntelliJ IDEA java development. My main gripe would be Firefox crashing on trying to load some sites (eg maps.google.com) :/ this is a little bit off-topic: does the crash happen

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread David Brownlee
On Sat, 22 Jun 2019 at 23:33, Chris Humphries wrote: > > Suggestions weren't mind-blowing or anything, but the usual suspects: > Thinkpads and people saying some random laptop mostly works for them. > > Mostly, it seems folks don't really run NetBSD on laptops, and if they > do they're silent

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Jason Mitchell
> On Jun 24, 2019, at 1:58 AM, Thomas Mueller wrote: > > from Brett Lymn: > >> As a lot of other people, silent because my laptop is ~5 years old so >> hardly helpful. Most of my NetBSD is done on a fujitsu S904 lifebook, I >> chose is for the combination of power and light weight. It took

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Riccardo Mottola
Hi Chris, Chris Humphries wrote: Suggestions weren't mind-blowing or anything, but the usual suspects: Thinkpads and people saying some random laptop mostly works for them. Mostly, it seems folks don't really run NetBSD on laptops, and if they do they're silent about it. I personally suspect

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-24 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Brett Lymn: > As a lot of other people, silent because my laptop is ~5 years old so > hardly helpful. Most of my NetBSD is done on a fujitsu S904 lifebook, I > chose is for the combination of power and light weight. It took quite a > while but my laptop is now well supported, built in

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-23 Thread Pedro Pinho
Same here, HP ProBook 6460b from 2013, i5 CPU, 8GB RAM, replaced the original HDD with a SSD and replaced the crappy broadcom wifi card with an Intel one. Everything working fine, further details here, https://www.unitedbsd.com/d/6-netbsd-a-little-guide-for-newcomers Very recently, I've tried

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-23 Thread Brett Lymn
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 06:32:55PM -0400, Chris Humphries wrote: > > Mostly, it seems folks don't really run NetBSD on laptops, and if they > do they're silent about it. > As a lot of other people, silent because my laptop is ~5 years old so hardly helpful. Most of my NetBSD is done on a

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-23 Thread Rhialto
On Sun 23 Jun 2019 at 11:02:10 +0200, Martin Husemann wrote: > If there wouldn't be the unsupported sdio wifi issue, I'd strongly > recommend a pinebook ;-) Hm.. well... on the pinebook, I would say that NetBSD's graphics drivers "leave a lot to be desired". Mind you, with the Linux KDE Neon I'm

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-23 Thread Martin Husemann
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 06:32:55PM -0400, Chris Humphries wrote: > Mostly, it seems folks don't really run NetBSD on laptops, and if they > do they're silent about it. I do, and I have been silent. For me everything works on my two Acer ones I currently have, but I could not recommend any

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-23 Thread maya
I don't recommend my laptops because I can name the list of things not working on them (I want to fix them at some point). I can tell you what is missing in a Dell XPS 9550 but given that I have graphical acceleration, external monitor and internal wifi, it's an OK recent laptop for netbsd'ing.

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-23 Thread Ron Georgia
My "intel" laptop is a Lenovo X200 running 8.1 and works great. As far as the "daily driver" goes I still rely on my Mac because my knowledge of NetBSD and crafting a stable desktop is shaky at best... albeit getting better. I do most of my python development on a box running current. All my

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-22 Thread Mayuresh
On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 06:32:55PM -0400, Chris Humphries wrote: > Mostly, it seems folks don't really run NetBSD on laptops, and if they > do they're silent about it. > I personally suspect most people run NetBSD as on servers, > virtualization (virtualbox or qemu), or toys like old

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-22 Thread Chris Humphries
Suggestions weren't mind-blowing or anything, but the usual suspects: Thinkpads and people saying some random laptop mostly works for them. Mostly, it seems folks don't really run NetBSD on laptops, and if they do they're silent about it. I personally suspect most people run NetBSD as on servers,

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-21 Thread U'll Be King Of The Stars
Good choice, Chris! Is it possible to collect the suggestions that others gave you and send them around, either privately, or publicly to the list? I am looking for a Thinkpad too (anything that starts with X or T and ends in #00, #20, or #30) but it doesn't _have_ to be a TP. So far my

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-21 Thread Chris Humphries
Ended up simply ordering a Thinkpad T420 off eBay for $200. Better specs than I currently have and well supported. Thanks for all that gave me recommendations via this email, IRC, and Twitter. On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 08:59:09PM +, Chris Humphries wrote: > Hello Hivemind, > > I'm shopping

Re: Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-19 Thread U'll Be King Of The Stars
On 19/06/2019 21:59, Chris Humphries wrote: > I'm shopping for a new laptop and would like to have a laptop with > very good NetBSD support (ethernet and wireless networking works, > graphics works using the graphics card in a non-generic way, > suspend/resume works, trackpad). Does "new" mean

Laptop Recommendations for NetBSD?

2019-06-19 Thread Chris Humphries
Hello Hivemind, I'm shopping for a new laptop and would like to have a laptop with very good NetBSD support (ethernet and wireless networking works, graphics works using the graphics card in a non-generic way, suspend/resume works, trackpad). https://wiki.netbsd.org/laptops/ exists - but like