On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 10:31:19AM -0800, James Ketrenos wrote:
The only merge requirement should be that merging d80211 doesn't break
existing in-tree wireless drivers. We have that today -- you can have
both stacks in the tree and running in parallel. With that, we have the
ability to
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:16:57 +
Christoph Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The most important merge requirement is to not break userspace. That means
proper support of WE (hopefully via cfg80211), and a single ethX network
device.
Sounds reasonable. Though:
- I don't think ethX is the
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 12:16:57PM +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
The most important merge requirement is to not break userspace. That means
proper support of WE (hopefully via cfg80211), and a single ethX network
device. The second most important is proper smp support, or good code
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:05:50PM +0100, Jiri Benc wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:16:57 +
Christoph Hellwig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The most important merge requirement is to not break userspace. That means
proper support of WE (hopefully via cfg80211), and a single ethX network
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 15:05 +0100, Jiri Benc wrote:
- Single device is not as easy as it sounds. It would require rather
invasive changes in the networking core or ugly hacks in d80211. I'm
afraid this is something not achievable in a near future with current
number of people working on
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 14:18 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is not about the name that makes sense. I think using ethX names
for wireless devices is utterly stupid, but it's what all current upstream
drivers do, and at least for WE compat we'll have to stick to it.
No, that's not true,
Hi Johannes,
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 14:18 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is not about the name that makes sense. I think using ethX names
for wireless devices is utterly stupid, but it's what all current upstream
drivers do, and at least for WE compat we'll have to stick to it.
No,
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:32:34PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 14:18 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is not about the name that makes sense. I think using ethX names
for wireless devices is utterly stupid, but it's what all current upstream
drivers do, and at
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 14:45 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
I never said the name was related to WE - in fact there are tons of out of
tree drivers with different names. The important bit is that upgrading a
kernel adn changing the wireless stack must not change the device name.
Ah, but if
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:18:15 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is not about the name that makes sense. I think using ethX names
for wireless devices is utterly stupid, but it's what all current upstream
drivers do, and at least for WE compat we'll have to stick to it.
That's not true. Look
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Jiri Benc wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:18:15 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is not about the name that makes sense. I think using ethX names
for wireless devices is utterly stupid, but it's what all current upstream
drivers do, and at least for WE compat we'll have
@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather than
d80211-specific qdisc
On Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 03:32:34PM +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 14:18 +, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
This is not about the name that makes sense. I think using ethX
names
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:09:24 +0100 (CET), Sven-Haegar Koch wrote:
At least the ones used on my machines all do.
(Debian Sarge, Etch and Unstable)
The configfiles can be changed without problems to use any device name,
but needing to edit various files just for a kernel update would inhibt me
On Thu, 2006-11-02 at 19:38 +0100, Jiri Benc wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:09:24 +0100 (CET), Sven-Haegar Koch wrote:
At least the ones used on my machines all do.
(Debian Sarge, Etch and Unstable)
The configfiles can be changed without problems to use any device name,
but needing to edit
Garzik; Patrick McHardy; David Kimdon; netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather than
d80211-specific qdisc
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 17:09:24 +0100 (CET), Sven-Haegar Koch wrote:
At least the ones used on my machines all do.
(Debian Sarge, Etch and Unstable
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:27:59 -0800
Simon Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perhaps the solution is to allow the prefix to be a kernel configuration
item?
Simon
All modern distro's support device naming stuff through hotplug.
Don't put effort into keeping the kernel defaults absolute.
Please
On 11/2/06, Stephen Hemminger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please have Ethernet (and wireless) devices show up as eth%d. For the
master device, choose something else (mac%d ?).
If ultimately we're going to make wireless devices, as John puts it,
1st class citizens by making 802.11 a full protocol
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:15:23 -0700, Simon Barber wrote:
Re: registering as a real protocol - yes this I have been going on about
for a while. This needs a few changes in how things work:
1. Register as a real protocol.
2. Change drivers to use netif_rx to receive frames (will also be more
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:28:05AM +0100, Jiri Benc wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:15:23 -0700, Simon Barber wrote:
Re: registering as a real protocol - yes this I have been going on about
for a while. This needs a few changes in how things work:
1. Register as a real protocol.
2.
John W. Linville wrote:
On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 11:28:05AM +0100, Jiri Benc wrote:
On Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:15:23 -0700, Simon Barber wrote:
Re: registering as a real protocol - yes this I have been going on about
for a while. This needs a few changes in how things work:
1. Register as a real
James Ketrenos wrote:
If people have issues with with specific components of d80211 prior to
its merging, stand up and state what they are and how not fixing them
would negatively impact people that aren't using the d80211 subsystem.
Don't take the above as me saying there aren't items that
Jeff Garzik wrote:
James Ketrenos wrote:
If people have issues with with specific components of d80211 prior to
its merging, stand up and state what they are and how not fixing them
would negatively impact people that aren't using the d80211 subsystem.
Don't take the above as me saying there
David Kimdon wrote:
wme.c needs a generic fifo qdisc for each hardware queue. Switch
wme.c to use the generic fifo qdisc in net/sched/sch_fifo.c. This allows
removal of net/d80211/fifo_qdisc.c which isn't particularily tied to
IEEE 802.11 in any way.
-#define CHILD_QDISC_OPS
Patrick McHardy wrote:
David Kimdon wrote:
wme.c needs a generic fifo qdisc for each hardware queue. Switch
wme.c to use the generic fifo qdisc in net/sched/sch_fifo.c. This allows
removal of net/d80211/fifo_qdisc.c which isn't particularily tied to
IEEE 802.11 in any way.
-#define
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Subject: Re: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather than
d80211-specific qdisc
David Kimdon wrote:
wme.c needs a generic fifo qdisc for each
Simon Barber wrote:
Pfifo_fast does not make sense because the 802.11 qdisc already
categorizes the frames based on DSCP. The better thing would be to
extract the pfifo qdisc so that it does not require NET_SCHED, but this
is more work.
It wouldn't really hurt though since all frames queued
Simon Barber wrote:
Pfifo_fast does not make sense because the 802.11 qdisc already
categorizes the frames based on DSCP. The better thing would be to
extract the pfifo qdisc so that it does not require NET_SCHED, but this
is more work.
This patch should be enough to use it without NET_SCHED.
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:21:10AM +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
Considering that it is possibly and may be desirable to attach a
different qdisc than the built-in multiband qdisc, it might also
make sense to split the 80211 specific classification in a seperate
classifier module to allow
thing.
Simon
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From: Patrick McHardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:50 PM
To: Simon Barber
Cc: David Kimdon; netdev@vger.kernel.org; John W. Linville; Jiri Benc
Subject: Re: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather than
d80211-specific
Kimdon; netdev@vger.kernel.org; John W. Linville; Jiri Benc
Subject: Re: [patch] d80211: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather than
d80211-specific qdisc
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 03:21:10AM +0200, Patrick McHardy wrote:
Considering that it is possibly and may be desirable to attach a
different qdisc than
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:37:04PM -0700, Simon Barber wrote:
Doing this will slow down the qdisc - it does already run an external
classifier first if you install one. On typical laptops performance is
not a problem, but one common usage does have problems. The performance
of a wireless home
: use pfifo_qdisc_ops rather than
d80211-specific qdisc
On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:37:04PM -0700, Simon Barber wrote:
Doing this will slow down the qdisc - it does already run an external
classifier first if you install one. On typical laptops performance is
not a problem, but one common usage
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