Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>
> > On 25 Sep 2015, at 13:41, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
> >> Jernej Tuljak <jern...@mg-soft.si> writes:
> >>
> >>>
Jernej Tuljak wrote:
> Ladislav Lhotka je 23.9.2015 ob 14:29 napisal:
> > Jernej Tuljak writes:
> >
> >> Ladislav Lhotka je 23.9.2015 ob 12:52 napisal:
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 12:37, Jernej Tuljak wrote:
>
> Ladislav Lhotka
Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
>
> > On 23 Sep 2015, at 12:37, Jernej Tuljak wrote:
> >
> > Ladislav Lhotka je 23.9.2015 ob 11:58 napisal:
> >>> On 23 Sep 2015, at 11:45, Jernej Tuljak wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Section 7.21.5., the first bullet
Kent Watsen wrote:
>
> > This doesn't seem to be consistent with the rfc6241 section 5.1 that
> > states:
> > "The running configuration datastore holds the complete configuration
> > currently active on the network device."
>
> Good catch! RFC 6241 appears to be
Hi,
See below for some clarifying questions.
"Sterne, Jason (Jason)" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I met with Dean at IETF93 and we agreed that I should send a
> specific proposal to the list for this. Here it is:
>
>
Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 3:39 AM, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
>
> > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 15 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> w
Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>
> > On 15 Sep 2015, at 15:54, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> >
> > Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:54:59PM +0200, Martin B
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:54:59PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> >
> > Sure. The use case is for example servers that implement ietf-ip
> > (which imports ietf-interfaces), and ietf-interfaces.
Hi,
Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think we agreed that is ok for a YANG 1.1 module to import a YANG
> 1.0 module.
>
> But should it also be ok for a 1.0 module to import a 1.1 module?
>
> If we make this illegal, we might run into pro
Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
> Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> writes:
>
> > Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:19:14PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> >> > Hi,
>
Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:19:14PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I think we agreed
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:54:22AM +0100, Robert Wilton wrote:
> > >
> > >Then Lada brought up the example of ip addresses. It was mentioned
> > >on the call that for ip addresses there would be three lists; one for
> >
Hi,
Anees Shaikh <aasha...@google.com> wrote:
> hi -- some additional comments inline. I think that the revisit on some of
> the operator requirements is primarily due to some proposed solution's
> inability to address them.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:41 AM, Martin
Hi,
Benoit Claise wrote:
> 2. The requirements.
> If there are still clarifications needed around the requirements in
> draft-openconfig-netmod-opstate-01 section 4
4.1. Applied configuration as part of operational state
Already in the title, this requirement mandates the
Robert Wilton wrote:
> Hi Kent,
>
> I've a few comments on draft-kwatsen-netmod-opstate-00:
>
> 1) Having a related-state statement seems to be a good solution for
> binding oper nodes to config nodes that are not directly related in
> the data tree.
>
> But I note that the
Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>
> > On 10 Sep 2015, at 13:45, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 10 Sep 2015, at 12:55, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tai
Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>
> > On 10 Sep 2015, at 12:55, Martin Bjorklund <m...@tail-f.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think we agreed that is ok for a YANG 1.1 module to import a YANG
> > 1.0 module.
> >
> > B
Hi,
I think we agreed that is ok for a YANG 1.1 module to import a YANG
1.0 module.
But should it also be ok for a 1.0 module to import a 1.1 module?
If we make this illegal, we might run into problems. For example,
ietf-ip imports ietf-interfaces. Suppose we update ietf-interfaces
and the
Hi,
I got this, but there is no url to the webex there. Can you send the
url?
/martin
Nadeau Thomas wrote:
> >>> NETMOD Working Group invites you to join this WebEx meeting.
> >>>
> >>> NETMOD Interm meeting on OpenConfig
> >>> Thursday, September 10, 2015
> >>>
Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Andy argued that the proposed new definition of data tree looks like it
> is a big tree containing everything, so here is another try,
> improvements are welcome:
>
> o data tree: An instantiated tree of any data modeled with YANG, i.e.,
> one
Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> Robert Wilton writes:
>
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > Picking up a slightly old thread after PTO ...
> >
> > On 24/08/2015 22:50, Andy Bierman wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Wilton >>
Hi,
Andy Bierman wrote:
> I have a issue request for next week.
> IMO the text for what an arbitrary "YANG tool" MUST, SHOULD, or MAY
> do with an extension-stmt is not clear and no consensus exists yet either.
>
> The specific use-case is the addition of an "ephemeral-stmt"
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2015 at 09:29:53AM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Is there a WEB page that lists all the upcoming virtual meetings?
> > This would really help people remember without scanning lots of
> >
Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net> wrote:
> Martin,
>
> On 09/02/2015 06:42 AM, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> > Andy Bierman <a...@yumaworks.com> wrote:
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Lou Berger <lber...@labn.net> wrote:
> >>> Can one of you giv
Paul Borman wrote:
> It depends on if you want to be able to just use YANG for schemas, or if
> you want to force people to use another mechanism on top of YANG to make it
> flexible enough for complete schemas.
>
> For example, an interfaces schema may end up with paths like
Andy Bierman wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Lou Berger wrote:
> > Can one of you give an example of how this word work for a device (which
> > may be physical or virtual) that allocates done resources, say interfaces
> > to one logical entity
the questions I'm asking are
completely fair. Apologies. They're written from my perspective of
problems I'm actually experiencing.
Martin Bjorklund mailto:m...@tail-f.com
August 27, 2015 at 15:45
1) As a consumer of YANG models, how do I identify the set of models
that provide a set
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
Just because some people don't agree that the existing modules should be
moved doesn't mean the NETMOD WG wants every module to create its
own top-level node.
I agree, but I would go one step further and say that just b/c we
don't think that /device is a
Rob Shakir r...@rob.sh wrote:
Martin,
We are almost certainly not on the same page as to what we're
debating.
Martin Bjorklund mailto:m...@tail-f.com
August 28, 2015 at 08:55
https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=emailutm_medium=sumlinkutm_campaign=reach
Ok. So your proposal
Alexander Clemm (alex) a...@cisco.com wrote:
- As Martin mentioned, clearly by allowing to mount you are
decoupling schema information and instance population. Regarding
the issue of validation, this can be addressed by several ways.
I think that the mount point effectively works as a
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes:
...
3. It's necessary to clearly separate properties of the data tree
from properties of XML encoding. For instance, it is an
inherent property of a container instance in the data
Nadeau Thomas tnad...@lucidvision.com wrote:
[Speaking for myself]
Is the resistance to this proposal because of the actual changes to
structure, or is it a resistance to churn/change?
The former. IMO this is technically not a good proposal, as I have
tried to explain
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 25 Aug 2015, at 14:48, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 25 Aug 2015, at 14:01, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
I think this could work (thanks Robert; maybe this is what you
Hi,
I think this could work (thanks Robert; maybe this is what you
meant!):
container zones {
list zone {
...
list rrset {
...
leaf type {
type identityref { ... }
}
list rdata {
key id;
...
choice
Hi Lada,
Thank you for this extensive review! Comments inline.
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Hi,
this time I reviewed the complete text so my comments aren't limited to
YANG 1.1 stuff.
Lada
General comments
1. Would it make sense to at least mention that YANG is
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 25 Aug 2015, at 14:01, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
I think this could work (thanks Robert; maybe this is what you
meant!):
container zones {
list zone {
...
list rrset {
...
leaf type
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 24 Aug 2015, at 20:17, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
YANG does not provide any mechanism to REQUIRE modules A and B
to both be implemented on a server. You may think it should, but
currently the YANG conformance is for an individual
Martin Ciglan -X (mciglan - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco)
mcig...@cisco.com wrote:
Hello
I'm dealing with issue where one yang module includes many yang
submodules.
My question is if one of submodules gets updated with newer revision
than parent module,
does parent module needs to be
in parent module a to make
it all valid? Thanks.
Yes.
/martin
Best Regards
Martin
__
Od: Martin Bjorklund [m...@tail-f.com]
Odoslané: 24. augusta 2015 10:00
Do: Martin Ciglan -X (mciglan - PANTHEON TECHNOLOGIES at Cisco)
Kópia: netmod
Robert Wilton rwil...@cisco.com wrote:
Hi Martin,
On 20/08/2015 09:15, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com
wrote:
Robert Wilton rwil...@cisco.com wrote:
On 18/08/2015 18:22, Andy Bierman
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Hi,
YANG 1.1 will allow 'choice' under 'choice (see issue Y29), but is there
any reason for not allowing 'uses' under 'choice'?
If you have a grouping with N nodes (N 1), expanding in directly
under a choice would create N cases. Probably not what you
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Robert Wilton rwil...@cisco.com wrote:
On 18/08/2015 18:22, Andy Bierman wrote:
This is how languages like SMIv2 and YANG work.
A conceptual object is given
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
[joining this discussion a bit late]
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 20 Aug 2015, at 13:12, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 20 Aug 2015, at 12:37, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com
Robert Wilton rwil...@cisco.com wrote:
On 18/08/2015 18:22, Andy Bierman wrote:
This is how languages like SMIv2 and YANG work.
A conceptual object is given a permanent home within the tree of
object identifiers.
Moving data is very expensive, since any clients working with the old
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:49 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
[joining this discussion a bit late]
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 10 Aug 2015, at 18:46, Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Mon
Hi,
Lou Berger lber...@labn.net wrote:
On 8/18/2015 8:01 PM, Andy Bierman wrote:
Q1) scope
sec 2:
The model organization can itself be thought of as a meta-model,
in that it describes the relationships between individual models. We
choose to represent it also as simple
Hi,
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Hi,
although YANG 1.1 issue Y26 [1] is marked as DONE, I think the adopted
solution Y26-02 is really horrible, so at least I want to make sure the
WG is aware of the consequences.
I am currently working on a data model for DNS zone data and the
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 18 Aug 2015, at 15:42, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 18 Aug 2015, at 13:09, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Hi,
although YANG
Hi,
Rob Shakir r...@rob.sh wrote:
Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
But you are right, it is not just the path that is needed to identify
data residing in configuration datastores. It is in general a tuple
selector, path and for configuration data the selector is a
configuration
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
Hi,
I understand the intent is that an implementation of NACM
has to understand these NACM extensions. I agree with Lada
.
So do you agree that it would be a good idea to clarify this
according to Juergen's suggestion?
/martin
Andy
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 10:44 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
The real difference is that extensions can be ignored
Hi,
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder
j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 05:17:11PM -0700, Andy Bierman wrote:
Hi,
I would like to open another issue for YANG 1.1,
because I don't want
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 28 Jul 2015, at 11:42, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder
j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 05
Hi,
Nadeau Thomas tnad...@lucidvision.com wrote:
One of the actions from the last Interim meeting was to have both
sides of the issues around the open config approach to create at least
slides/textual bullet points for use during our discussion in Praha so
we can
Configuration Protocol (NETCONF)
Author : Martin Bjorklund
Filename: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6020bis-06.txt
Pages : 196
Date: 2015-07-06
Abstract:
YANG is a data modeling language used to model configuration and
state data
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 30 Jun 2015, at 16:11, Acee Lindem (acee) a...@cisco.com wrote:
Hi Lada,
On 6/30/15, 4:52 AM, Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Hi,
is it OK that 6020bis again defines “YANG Module Names” registry? It was
already defined in RFC
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 01 Jul 2015, at 16:25, Benoit Claise bcla...@cisco.com wrote:
Hi Lada,
ay
-
The set of annotations must be extensible in a distributed manner
so as to allow for defining new annotations without running into
the risk
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Hi,
Here's a short summary, and then some questions for the WG.
The ietf-yang-library module is designed to serve two purposes:
1. A protocol-independent
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com
wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote:
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 05:11:28PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com
wrote:
Hi,
I am preparing a new version of draft-ietf
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
.
There is already the schema list in ietf-netconf-monitoring that gives
you the full set of modules and submodules used
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
.
There is already the schema list in ietf-netconf-monitoring that gives
you the full set of modules and submodules used in a server.
This is not true.
--ro schemas
| +--ro schema* [identifier version format]
|
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:14 AM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com
wrote:
Hi,
I am preparing a new version of draft-ietf
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
On 17 Jun 2015, at 12:12, Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com wrote:
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Hi Martin,
thanks for the review.
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes:
o Last paragraph of section 3 and the description
Hi,
Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net wrote:
[As an individual contributor]
In preparation for our Virtual Interim meeting this Thursday, my
primary goal was to understand the problems needing to be solved.
Hopefully this isn't too much of a simplification, but there seems to
be just the
Juergen Schoenwaelder j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de wrote:
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 09:05:07AM +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
It is also important for the JSON encoding - it means there won’t
necessarily be a way for mapping XML-encoded instance to JSON and
vice versa.
Because of
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com writes:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net wrote:
I think the two leafs are coupled through the path statement and so the
values of both should conform to the same type. If I extend
Andy Bierman a...@yumaworks.com wrote:
On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Kent Watsen kwat...@juniper.net wrote:
I think the two leafs are coupled through the path statement and so the
values of both should conform to the same type. If I extend Balazs¹
example with uint8 and 1..10 range:
David Reid r...@snmp.com wrote:
Hi all,
If I want to add a new child data node to a container node or list
node, in order to keep backward compatiable,
should this child node be added to the end of son nodes of parent node?
For example,
container a {
leaf b;
Ladislav Lhotka lho...@nic.cz wrote:
Martin Bjorklund m...@tail-f.com writes:
Andy,
I don't think the implementation burden on the server is that heavy.
A YANG 1.0 compliant server today supports:
leaf a in module A of type foo from foo@2001-01-01
leaf b in module B of type
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