Re: Relicense NetworkManager under LGPL-2.1+

2020-05-15 Thread Colin Walters
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I, Colin Walters, agree to relicense my contributions to NetworkManager as LGPL-2.1+ as proposed by Thomas Haller. Some of my work may be held under copyright by Red Hat, Inc. I do not speak for that entity. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE

Re: NM in the initrd for Fedora CoreOS

2020-01-04 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, at 10:00 AM, Thomas Haller wrote: > Hi, > > > On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 14:21 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > I was trying out the current F31 dracut network-manager module, and > > couldn't get it to do anything useful. > > See: https://github.c

NM in the initrd for Fedora CoreOS

2020-01-03 Thread Colin Walters
I was trying out the current F31 dracut network-manager module, and couldn't get it to do anything useful. See: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/259 If anyone has a bit of time to help out that'd be appreciated! One higher level architectural question; why is the NM initrd

Re: NetworkManager dnsmasq plugin and docker

2019-06-04 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, May 25, 2019, at 3:35 AM, Till Maas via networkmanager-list wrote: > Hi, > > I am using NetworkManager with dnsmasq with this confguration: > > cat > '/etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/dns.conf' < [main] > dns=dnsmasq > EOF Using podman will help if you're using host networking:

Re: defaulting `rc_manager=symlink` to creating a symlink?

2018-07-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Jul 18, 2018, at 4:20 AM, Thomas Haller wrote: > On Tue, 2018-07-17 at 22:32 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > > See discussion in https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/pull/14 > > 64 > > > > Is there a reason that the `symlink` mode doesn't default to cr

defaulting `rc_manager=symlink` to creating a symlink?

2018-07-17 Thread Colin Walters
See discussion in https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/pull/1464 Is there a reason that the `symlink` mode doesn't default to creating a symlink? It'd help for mounting `/etc` read-only. ___ networkmanager-list mailing list

[PATCH] tree-wide: Cast after g_object_ref() for proposed GLib patch

2017-12-05 Thread Colin Walters
(+), 5 deletions(-) From 21d75a518e5feaa18e89f53762478f94fbcef233 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters <walt...@verbum.org> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 10:44:12 -0500 Subject: [PATCH] tree-wide: Cast after g_object_ref() for proposed GLib patch This fixes the build with https://bugzilla.gno

Re: How to force DHCP renew?

2017-10-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017, at 06:20 PM, Thomas Haller wrote: > NM has a 5 seconds grace period, during which it ignores carrier going > away. It does so because the link can go down unexpectedly for unknown > reasons. > Actually, after NM changes the MTU, the 5 seconds are extended to 10 > seconds,

Re: [PATCH] Do not use /etc/resolv.conf symbolic links on SELinux

2016-09-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016, at 02:06 PM, Guido Trentalancia wrote: > When SELinux is enabled, do not create a symbolic link to a "resolv.conf" > file outside /etc (e.g. in /var/run/NetworkManager), but instead create a > regular file in /etc. > > This is to avoid creating policy permissions to read

Re: [PATCH] libnm-glib/libnm/vpn: fix handling of ConnectInteractive() failure (rh #1298732)

2016-03-01 Thread Colin Walters
I backported this on top of NetworkManager-1.0.6-28, dropped the hunks for -service.c which appear to not exist, re-upgraded to NetworkManager-vpnc-1.0.8-1.el7.x86_64, and connected to my VPN successfully. Thanks! Tested-by: Colin Walters <walt...@verbum.

Re: [PATCH 1/1] logging: change logging format to drop "[file:line] func():" part

2016-02-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016, at 11:21 AM, Thomas Haller wrote: > Choose a new logging format. > > - the logging format must not be configurable and it must be the > same for all backends. It is neat that journal supports additional > fields, but an average user still posts the output of plain >

Re: [PATCH 1/1] platform: optimize sysctl_set() to use stack allocated buffer

2016-02-24 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016, at 05:54 PM, Thomas Haller wrote: > The value written to sysctl is usually a short string. It makes sense > to optimize for this case and avoid allocating a temporary string > on the heap. Hey, so a while ago I was pushing for NetworkManager to use libgsystem, which then got

Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] Allow building without gtk-doc installed

2015-06-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jun 25, 2015, at 04:57 AM, Lubomir Rintel wrote: This doesn't look good to me. autogen.sh is a maintainer tool and we pretty much always want to create tarballs with GTK-doc. FWIW glib supports this: https://git.gnome.org/browse/glib/tree/autogen.sh

Re: broken build: would be good to announce new hard dependencies on the mailing list

2014-02-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Pavel Simerda psime...@redhat.com wrote: I'm curious whether Colin's ostree CI build was ready for the change. Yep, I'd had it split off for quite a while: https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-continuous/tree/manifest.json#n447

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 12:47 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: On 07/01/2013 04:14 PM, Dan Winship wrote: danw, any rationale behind the argument for ignore-carrier? Servers, by definition, tend to have fixed IP addresses. Therefore, if you are using DHCP on a server, it's probably for ease of

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-07-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 15:32 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: In my opinion, the default is to treat DHCP connections as fully dynamic on servers as well as on laptops. In other words, a vote against ignore-carrier=* being the default. I think I agree with you - if you're using DHCP, I'd expect

Re: discuss: NM server defaults

2013-06-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-06-27 at 11:34 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: - Original Message - From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org To: networkmanager-list@gnome.org Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 4:25:31 PM Subject: discuss: NM server defaults So I filed this downstream: https

discuss: NM server defaults

2013-06-26 Thread Colin Walters
So I filed this downstream: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=978081 But it seems like something worth talking about here. We could easily maintain nm-server-defaults.conf in the upstream git repo, at least. We could also add --enable-server-defaults as a build time option, for OS

Re: [PATCH] nm-device: Remove bogus warning

2013-06-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 08:11 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: It's more there because it's potentially a bug Ok, the logic seems odd because we're doing effectively: if (condition) { if (condition) warning (); deal_with_it (); } If the code had looked like: if (condition) {

Re: [PATCH] nm-device: Remove bogus warning

2013-06-19 Thread Colin Walters
Ok, how about this patch? From ab22ffd804ba7e91bd6d064cbf5627ab03981c3b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:56:26 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] device: Queuing two transitions to the same state is not an error Just ignore this, since it happens

[PATCH] nm-device: Remove bogus warning

2013-06-18 Thread Colin Walters
about it. --- src/devices/nm-device.c |1 - 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) From b485ce2c58e7d474392e8987fb834762beecc3ed Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 16:44:18 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] nm-device: Remove bogus warning

[PATCH] main() init cleanups, logging improvements

2013-06-14 Thread Colin Walters
See this series: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~walters/NetworkManager/commit/?h=wip/main-ordering The first few commits are just minor cleanups. The important commit of the series is:

Re: [PATCH] build: Remove libndp for now

2013-06-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 10:29 -0300, Dan Winship wrote: OK, these patches (danw/ndpfix branch) make it not install libndp when building it from source, and make it possible to use a system libndp instead. Ugly =/ But it looks like it will work. If the long term plan is that libndp is a system

Re: [PATCH] build: Remove libndp for now

2013-06-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-06-13 at 10:29 -0300, Dan Winship wrote: OK, these patches (danw/ndpfix branch) make it not install libndp when building it from source, and make it possible to use a system libndp instead. I added the libndp git repo to the gnome-ostree manifest and tested a build with these

[PATCH] build: Remove libndp for now

2013-06-12 Thread Colin Walters
files changed, 0 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) delete mode 16 libndp From 36d83e054b8bf90dc8b0e820617e3ff17f134ba7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 08:36:29 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] build: Remove libndp for now It's installing itself

Re: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-05-22 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-05-22 at 08:55 +0200, Jirka Klimes wrote: +#endif /* __LIBGSYSTEM_GLIB_COMPAT__ */ Hum, I must have failed to actually apply the patch to NM's copy of libgsystem. Regardless, pushed, thanks! ___ networkmanager-list mailing list

Re: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-05-21 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 09:08 +0200, Jirka Klimes wrote: CC libgsystem_la-gsystem-file-utils.lo libgsystem/gsystem-file-utils.c: In function 'linkcopy_internal_attempt': libgsystem/gsystem-file-utils.c:358:3: error: implicit declaration of function 'g_clear_pointer'

Re: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-05-17 Thread Colin Walters
qemux86-64 NetworkManager[327]: Bound interface eth0 bash-4.2# As a side note, in future, I'll be adding a dependency on Jiří Pírko's libndp Link? From f5554e5371b27c564b0e248d6ccefd9da4176916 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 16:35:14 -0400

Re: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-05-17 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 19:44 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 15:05 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: Any more resources/documentation/posts for that? Look at the attached patch as a demo. Ah, interesting. Is it capable of working

Re: [PATCH 2/2] core: runtime detect logind and ConsoleKit

2013-05-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 07:05 +0100, Fabio Erculiani wrote: If --with-session-tracking=systemd, but logind is not currently running, the code now falls back to ConsoleKit. This is particularly useful for covering the interim, while waiting for distros to abandon ConsoleKit completely. There's

Re: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-05-13 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 12:50 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 16:42 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: And change src/main.c to use the local allocation macros. This results in much cleaner code, as one can see from the diff. Because libgsystem is designed for nonrecursive make

[PATCH] Use g_cclosure_marshal_generic

2013-05-08 Thread Colin Walters
d3df947623f1f2d8487f0792a3e0981228e1ae89 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 08:53:59 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Use g_cclosure_marshal_generic This Just Works(tm). However, there is one ugly part worth calling out - we're still calling

Re: [PATCH] Use g_cclosure_marshal_generic

2013-05-08 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 09:22 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: Oh, I just did this too as part of the danw/movedevs branch... -dbus_g_object_register_marshaller (_nm_marshal_VOID__STRING_BOXED, +dbus_g_object_register_marshaller (NULL, Does that work? From what I can see in the dbus-glib

Re: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-04-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2013-04-26 at 16:42 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: And change src/main.c to use the local allocation macros. This results in much cleaner code, as one can see from the diff. Because libgsystem is designed for nonrecursive make, it fits best in the current recursive setup if we build

[PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule

2013-04-26 Thread Colin Walters
mode 16 libgsystem From 1bf944af8a321cebe2ddc45d0649f744c8828bab Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 16:20:22 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Add libgsystem as a git submodule And change src/main.c to use the local allocation macros. This results

Re: [PATCH] man: Rewrite NetworkManager.8 and NetworkManager.conf.5 in DocBook

2013-04-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 12:25 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: Though now that I look again, where does docbook.xsl come from, and is that going to be available when there's no network? Does xsltproc look in some local cache before hitting a network for the .xsl? Yes, there's this elaborate catalog

[PATCH] man: Rewrite NetworkManager.8 and NetworkManager.conf.5 in DocBook

2013-04-10 Thread Colin Walters
From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:41:00 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] man: Rewrite NetworkManager.8 and NetworkManager.conf.5 in DocBook DocBook is not my favorite thing in the world, but it's lots-of-emphasisfar/lots-of-emphasis saner than troff. Some style parts cribbed

Re: [PATCH] man: Rewrite NetworkManager.8 and NetworkManager.conf.5 in DocBook

2013-04-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2013-04-10 at 13:15 -0400, Dan Winship wrote: On 04/10/2013 06:37 AM, Colin Walters wrote: DocBook is not my favorite thing in the world, but it's lots-of-emphasisfar/lots-of-emphasis saner than troff. Some style parts cribbed from systemd. This is preparatory work

Re: Compile and Install Network Manager

2013-04-08 Thread Colin Walters
Hi Malintha, On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 19:41 +0600, Malintha Adikari wrote: Hi, I want to change the NM code, compile it and re-install it on my local system. Im using Fedora 18.Is it safer to do it so ? Or is there any safer way to do it other than do it on Virtual machine? If you're talking

Re: [PATCH] dhclient: copy leasefiles from old location if needed (rh #916233)

2013-03-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 14:38 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: + error error-message ? error-message : (unknown)); How could error be != NULL but error-message be NULL? Sounds like there was some buggy gobject library out there? If so the right thing is to

[PATCH] keyfile plugin patches

2013-03-06 Thread Colin Walters
Hopefully the first patch for error handling is something we can do in the rest of the codebase too, because it's s much better. From de1e3e809d06529afc0eb95ba38b374e1487924b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:00:41 -0500 Subject: [PATCH

Re: [PATCH] fix build: disable -Werror by default (Bug #679130)

2012-11-02 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2012-11-02 at 11:59 +0100, Clemens Buchacher wrote: So this has been an issue for a while, and the -Werror flag does not help anything besides breaking the build. You're going to have to learn how to pass options to configure if you're building software in general. It's really the

Re: review request: pavlix/build

2012-10-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 18:54 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: In that case, also worth stating explicitly. What would you like to see there if we're just tidying up? Exactly that - add Just tidying up. in the commit message then. ___

Re: review request: pavlix/build

2012-10-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2012-10-27 at 19:39 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: Hi, I just pushed an updated version of 'pavlix/build', rebased to the current master. It's still a singe patch:

Re: review request: pavlix/distro

2012-10-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2012-10-27 at 19:47 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: Hi all, I would like to recieves comments on my 'pavlix/distro' branch that consists of three patches aiming towards distro-agnostic build system. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/log/?h=pavlix/distro dcbw:

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 09:54 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: One thing I would like to give it some reasonable time. I'd still like to consult some people. Please do forward any feedback. A couple of programmers questions, though, that will help me to assess the actual value of gsystem: I'll

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 11:59 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 11:56 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 11:51 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: I don't oppose that. Attached. Well, *if* we did that, we'd just git revert sha instead of applying a patch

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-22 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 12:05 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: I, personally, was considering using some faster compiler for development. Pavel Tišnovský wrote an article about tcc and it might save me a lot of time waiting for compilation. I doubt it, though it does depend on what kind of build

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2012-10-19 at 08:47 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: 1) Do we consider the Linux non-GCC community if *they* want to use NetworkManager? So concretely, the major ones are LLVM and ICC; both of these I know both implement a lot of the GCC extensions, and they're also C++ compilers, which

__attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=685440 has a patch which just landed, but I wanted to give wider discussion to this, because it's a very important infrastructural change. First, one thing that came up is a concern about a GCC hard dependency. My understanding is that LLVM

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 11:19 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: Then why it wasn't good enough for Glib but is good enough for NetworkManager? Why See this thread: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2012-April/msg3.html Basically, because the GTK+ stack needs to compile with MSVC.

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 11:51 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: I don't oppose that. Attached. From c43e095419423b36544e221f9f0896d2579fb0a0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:53:05 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Revert core: import libgsystem, use

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
a6f48a9720aa7b01b8abee1fc0eb78230b273485 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:11:04 -0400 Subject: [PATCH] Document more Thanks to Pavel Simerda psime...@redhat.com for bringing this up. --- gsystem-local-alloc.c | 48

Re: __attribute__ ((cleanup) patch

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 11:28 -0500, Dan Williams wrote: I don't consider this an experiment at this point. Well, I do think Pavel has a point; it's true that NetworkManager is an order of magnitude more code than any other project I've used it in before, and it's larger in terms of people too.

Re: [PATCH](or feature-request) build both systemd and ck versions

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 15:02 -0400, Luke T.Shumaker wrote: I propose that the build system should generage both `NetworkManager-ck' and `NetworkManager-systemd' binaries and symlink `NetworkManager' to one of them. This way a distro that supports both sysvinit and systemd (such as Arch) can

Re: [PATCH](or feature-request) build both systemd and ck versions

2012-10-18 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 05:19 -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: In my opinion, you should have just one binary. It is easy to detect systemd at runtime, as it requires cgroups and creates one. There is sd_booted() as public API for that. For what NetworkManager is doing, runtime detection may indeed

Re: Network-Manager Trunk and Fedora 12

2010-03-31 Thread Colin Walters
- Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: /var/log/messages: Mar 25 19:51:58 localhost dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type=method_return, sender=:1.12 (uid=0 pid=1424 comm=/usr/sbin/bluetoothd) interface=(unset) member=(unset) error name=(unset) requested_reply=0

Re: problem with networkmanager dbus api

2008-10-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been in dbus-glib since June, right after the release of 0.76:

Re: [patch] Support Debian's resolvconf

2005-08-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 15:15 +0200, Olivier Blin wrote: Ok, but you could have enhanced the current system to have this kind of status reporting. Currently, I guess you have lost the ability to manage ppp connections, dsl connections and isdn connections in NetworkManager. I think a big

Re: [patch] Support Debian's resolvconf

2005-08-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 14:38 -0400, Will Dyson wrote: On 7/28/05, Steev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will Dyson wrote: I can work on moving the resolv.conf management into the backends, if people think that would be useful. Do any other distributions (or any of the BSDs) have their own

Re: [patch] Support Debian's resolvconf

2005-07-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 18:28 -0400, Will Dyson wrote: I really use resolvconf because it seems more elegant than having various different scripts and programs rewriting my resolv.conf file. My point is, NetworkManager should be the only program writing out your resolv.conf. For example,

Re: [patch] Support Debian's resolvconf

2005-07-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 12:12 -0400, Will Dyson wrote: So the added value here is the removal of a potential failure case (and one that I'm sure others will hit) when NetworkManager is stopped or removed. NetworkManager is supposed to be friendly, and I feel that includes doing everything it

Re: [patch] Support Debian's resolvconf

2005-07-29 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 22:10 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: Will Dyson wrote: Now, one could say that the real solution here is for Debian/Ubuntu packages of NetworkManager to Conflict: with resolvconf. But playing nice with resolvconf is so easy, I just don't understand the objection to it.

Re: [patch] Support Debian's resolvconf

2005-07-28 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2005-07-28 at 11:54 -0400, Will Dyson wrote: I've been playing with NetworkManager on my laptop (running Ubuntu). I'm rather pleased with it in general, but I use the resolvconf [1] package for managing /etc/resolv.conf. Can you explain why you use resolvconf and NetworkManager? What

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 20:27 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, what's the difference to the end user? Having to type their password first? Not necessarily: Having to restart gaim or psi or other apps because there's a race condition between

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 03:05 +0200, Sebastien ESTIENNE wrote: D I also need it for other reasons than kerberos: - i can't acces my samba shares until i log in, using my laptops as mobile file server, sometimes i expect to just power it on and be able to acces my files. - the same for apache

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 10:14 -0400, warlord wrote: Dan, you keep conflating two issues which are not the same. You seem to be confusing network exists at startup from network changes from under you. I'm concerned about the former, you seem to talking about the latter. I would conflate the

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 12:58 -0400, warlord wrote: Quoting Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Having to restart gaim or psi or other apps because there's a race condition between login and network startup? You ignored this issue... I ignored it because Dan answered it: all applications

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 17:55 -0400, David Zeuthen wrote: On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 16:54 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: no offense intended, but I still disagree with that design choice. It means you cannot use NM in a situation where you have wireless network and network-based login (e.g.

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-26 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:20 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Because I don't want my kerberos password cached.. Anywhere.. Anytime. What is the threat, exactly? Laptop theft? In that case, since the password is only cached in memory, as soon

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 16:54 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: Quoting Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All the wireless keys, preferred network, and which networks you're actually allowed to connect to are stored per-user, as designed, and also as designed, NetworkManager won't attempt to connect

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 16:54 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: Quoting Dan Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: All the wireless keys, preferred network, and which networks you're actually allowed to connect to are stored per-user, as designed, and also as designed, NetworkManager won't attempt to connect

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 17:24 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: Quoting Colin Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If you're using network login, your computer is tied specifically to that network; you can't switch networks, which invalidates a lot of the point of NetworkManager as it is today

Re: 2 questions...

2005-07-25 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 17:36 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: A while ago some Fedora hackers were working on cached credentials for PAM; the idea is that when you logged in, the credentials would be cached locally, so that if you were ever away from the network, you could still log in. I'm

Re: DNS problem (forwarding order?)

2005-07-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 20:52 +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: Here is a good reason, then, to use dnsmasq rather than bind. When dnsmasq is run with the --strict-order option it always consults nameservers in the specified order. But again, this would only help most (i.e. not all) of the time. The

Re: DNS problem (forwarding order?)

2005-07-07 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, 2005-07-07 at 12:52 -0700, David MacMahon wrote: Dan Williams wrote: Can you file a bug with exactly this information against 'bind' in Red Hat bugzilla? This sounds like a caching nameserver problem more than a NetworkManager one. If you could add me to the CC-list of the bug

Re: [patch] first pass at gnome-keyring support, baby.

2005-06-22 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 22:02 -0400, Robert Love wrote: Attached patch adds support for gnome-keyring to nm-applet and stores the essid key encrypted in the keyring instead of cleartext in gconf. It is a first pass, but it seems to work well [1]. One issue is it causes the gnome-keyring

Re: [patch] add a connection information dialog.

2005-06-22 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 15:44 -0400, Robert Love wrote: On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 15:42 -0400, Robert Love wrote: The attached email implements a Connection Information dialog, accessible from the right-click menu, with connection-related information such as IP address, subnet mask, active

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 17:14 -0800, Tomislav Vujec wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:22:26 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: The system bus will be restarted on reboot, however often that happens. For my personal system that's several times a day, as apm and acpi are broken on my laptop. I think

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-15 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 08:01 -0500, Bill Rugolsky Jr. wrote: If it is some huge bloated behemoth that may die due to bugs, Any software can crash due to bugs. The same is true for someone writing some hypothetical D-BUS replacement on top of netlink or whatever. But you might notice that the

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 23:29 +0100, Tom Parker wrote: One of the things that NM has needed for a while is the ability to properly handle Dbus disconnects, and to reconnect sanely. I don't think we should really try to support this. Restarting D-BUS should be viewed like trying to live-restart

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-14 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-03-15 at 00:27 +0200, Paul Ionescu wrote: On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:00:50 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: On Sun, 2005-03-13 at 23:29 +0100, Tom Parker wrote: One of the things that NM has needed for a while is the ability to properly handle Dbus disconnects, and to reconnect sanely

Re: DBus reconnect support (initial attempt)

2005-03-14 Thread Colin Walters
[ CC'ing dbus list as this discussion is important for writers of D-BUS applications and for packagers ] On Mon, 2005-03-14 at 23:49 +0100, Tom Parker wrote: I'd disagree. Yes, it'll be a pain in the ass to get right, and yup this ain't exactly going to be the most tested code path. I'm

Re: CVS 8/2 compile error

2005-02-11 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, 2005-02-08 at 13:34 +0100, Tom Parker wrote: Getting errors on NetworkManagerDevice.c, because I don't appear to have a pci/types.h. No idea where the heck this would be (on a Debian system), but then worked out that we only needed a few types from it and so wrote a patch. Index: