Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-04-08 Thread Jenya Spektor
So the story continues
After cleaning (thoroughly) the carbs and rejetting them as per the
recommendation from (
http://carbjetkits.com/honda-cb650sc-1983-1985-ultimate.html) and putting
the pods air filters, the bike is backfiring and not starting half the time.
So, last I remember you guys had suggested to keep the shims but revert
back to the stock main jets. I leaned the pilot screws out to about 4 turns
to lean the mixture out - might that be what creates backfiring in the
pipes (BTW - the pipes are stock, and I did take them off, wrapped them and
put brand new gaskets on, then reassembled everything).
I did not do a compression check - but just to be clear, everything started
with a leak in one of the aluminum fuel connectors (o-rings) connecting
carb 2-3. So nothing was ever changed from before - and it was running fine
before I started with the whole carb cleaning saga...
Thanks again,
Jenya



On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 8:19 PM mike beatty 
wrote:

> Thank you guys
>
> On Mar 20, 2019 2:33 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> Sweet ride man!! Great job!!
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:29 PM, mike beatty
>  wrote:
> This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
>
> On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the
> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air
> pod filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> What size jets did you install?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Thanks for that - will persevere...
> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
> out more?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the
> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three
> to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle
> to get a true reading.
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what
> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open
> to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will
> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
> a bit of tweaking.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Few more inquiries about syncing.
> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb
> pressure is correct?
>
> In general (to my great frustration):
> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
> Thank you guys!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
> it with the 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-21 Thread mike beatty
Thank you guys

On Mar 20, 2019 2:33 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

Sweet ride man!! Great job!!


Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:29 PM, mike beatty
 wrote:
This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?

On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
wrote:


You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
 wrote:
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
 wrote:
Thanks for that - will persevere...
What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
out more?

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
wrote:

One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to,
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to
get a true reading.
Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what you’re
going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open to
full unless that means choke ‘off’.
Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will at
least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
a bit of tweaking.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing.
1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb
pressure is correct?

In general (to my great frustration):
1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - today
the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at 70* C
after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer - this
is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
Thank you guys!


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
wrote:

I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!
So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
to illustrate later on. Thanks all.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:

If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 



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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-21 Thread mike beatty
On Mar 20, 2019 2:33 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

> Sweet ride man!! Great job!!
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:29 PM, mike beatty
>  wrote:
> This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
>
> On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the
> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air
> pod filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> What size jets did you install?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Thanks for that - will persevere...
> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
> out more?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the
> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three
> to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle
> to get a true reading.
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what
> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open
> to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will
> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
> a bit of tweaking.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Few more inquiries about syncing.
> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb
> pressure is correct?
>
> In general (to my great frustration):
> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
> Thank you guys!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 
> Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from
> the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything
> yet - seems very clean.
> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  have
> changed the O-rings and the 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-21 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Are you near an O'Reillys auto parts store? They rent compression gauges. When 
you take it back they give you back your money so it's free.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 7:56 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I did remove the pilot screws. I do not have the compression kit. 

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:58 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


Did you remove the pilot screws?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:44 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Yes I did blow all the holes out with compressed air. The diaphragms are in 
great shape with no cracks or holes. Right now my pilot screws are at 2 5/8 
turns out (as per manual). Should I go up to 3-4? And - is there a way to 
adjust them without taking he carbs off?Also, I took off the spark plug - 
looked ok ( not to carbonized, and not wet). It did smell of gas a lot. The 
spark is working (on the 1st carb) - it produces a spark ! So I’ll keep running 
the bike gently hoping that my carbs start to work - all of them as intended.
Thank you all. 
Ps - Michael, the bike looks nice!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:


I dig it , nighthawk touring edition 
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 2:29 PM mike beatty  wrote:

This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:


You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-21 Thread Jenya Spektor
I did remove the pilot screws. I do not have the compression kit. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:58 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> Did you remove the pilot screws?
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:44 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Yes I did blow all the holes out with compressed air. The diaphragms are in 
> great shape with no cracks or holes. Right now my pilot screws are at 2 5/8 
> turns out (as per manual). Should I go up to 3-4? And - is there a way to 
> adjust them without taking he carbs off?
> Also, I took off the spark plug - looked ok ( not to carbonized, and not 
> wet). It did smell of gas a lot. The spark is working (on the 1st carb) - it 
> produces a spark ! 
> So I’ll keep running the bike gently hoping that my carbs start to work - all 
> of them as intended.
> Thank you all. 
> 
> Ps - Michael, the bike looks nice!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>> 
>> I dig it , nighthawk touring edition 
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 2:29 PM mike beatty  wrote:
>> This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:
>> 
>> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
>> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
>> filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What size jets did you install?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thanks for that - will persevere...
>>> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of 
>>> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had 
>>> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the 
>>> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them 
>>> out more?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  
 wrote:
 
 One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the 
 one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three 
 to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle 
 to get a true reading. 
 Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what 
 you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
 open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
 Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will 
 at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
 One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
 choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
 trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
 doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a 
 bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took 
 a bit of tweaking.
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 Few more inquiries about syncing. 
 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
 pressure is correct?
 
 In general (to my great frustration):
 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - 
 today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are 
 at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run 
 longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough 
 clean.
 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
 factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
 Thank you guys!
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
> wrote:
> 
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  
> wrote:
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
> measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick 
> question about that. I presume when inserting the brass 
> adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the 
> vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is there another place on 
> there? Not sure if the way I worded my question 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-20 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Did you remove the pilot screws?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 8:44 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Yes I did blow all the holes out with compressed air. The diaphragms are in 
great shape with no cracks or holes. Right now my pilot screws are at 2 5/8 
turns out (as per manual). Should I go up to 3-4? And - is there a way to 
adjust them without taking he carbs off?Also, I took off the spark plug - 
looked ok ( not to carbonized, and not wet). It did smell of gas a lot. The 
spark is working (on the 1st carb) - it produces a spark ! So I’ll keep running 
the bike gently hoping that my carbs start to work - all of them as intended.
Thank you all. 
Ps - Michael, the bike looks nice!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:


I dig it , nighthawk touring edition 
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 2:29 PM mike beatty  wrote:

This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:


You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-20 Thread Graham Rogers
Did we do a compression test?

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 9:44 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Yes I did blow all the holes out with compressed air. The diaphragms are
> in great shape with no cracks or holes. Right now my pilot screws are at 2
> 5/8 turns out (as per manual). Should I go up to 3-4? And - is there a way
> to adjust them without taking he carbs off?
> Also, I took off the spark plug - looked ok ( not to carbonized, and not
> wet). It did smell of gas a lot. The spark is working (on the 1st carb) -
> it produces a spark !
> So I’ll keep running the bike gently hoping that my carbs start to work -
> all of them as intended.
> Thank you all.
>
> Ps - Michael, the bike looks nice!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> I dig it , nighthawk touring edition
>
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 2:29 PM mike beatty 
> wrote:
>
>> This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out
>> the exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air
>> pod filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> What size jets did you install?
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks for that - will persevere...
>> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
>> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
>> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
>> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
>> out more?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the
>> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three
>> to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle
>> to get a true reading.
>> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what
>> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open
>> to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
>> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will
>> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
>> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
>> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
>> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
>> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
>> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
>> a bit of tweaking.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Few more inquiries about syncing.
>> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
>> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the
>> carb pressure is correct?
>>
>> In general (to my great frustration):
>> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
>> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
>> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
>> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
>> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
>> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
>> Thank you guys!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
>> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hey friends!
>> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
>> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
>> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
>> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
>> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
>> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
>> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
>> to illustrate later on. 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-20 Thread Jenya Spektor
Yes I did blow all the holes out with compressed air. The diaphragms are in 
great shape with no cracks or holes. Right now my pilot screws are at 2 5/8 
turns out (as per manual). Should I go up to 3-4? And - is there a way to 
adjust them without taking he carbs off?
Also, I took off the spark plug - looked ok ( not to carbonized, and not wet). 
It did smell of gas a lot. The spark is working (on the 1st carb) - it produces 
a spark ! 
So I’ll keep running the bike gently hoping that my carbs start to work - all 
of them as intended.
Thank you all. 

Ps - Michael, the bike looks nice!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
> 
> I dig it , nighthawk touring edition 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 2:29 PM mike beatty  wrote:
>> This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:
>> 
>> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
>> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
>> filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What size jets did you install?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thanks for that - will persevere...
>>> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of 
>>> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had 
>>> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the 
>>> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them 
>>> out more?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  
 wrote:
 
 One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the 
 one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three 
 to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle 
 to get a true reading. 
 Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what 
 you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
 open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
 Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will 
 at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
 One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
 choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
 trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
 doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a 
 bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took 
 a bit of tweaking.
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 Few more inquiries about syncing. 
 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
 pressure is correct?
 
 In general (to my great frustration):
 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - 
 today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are 
 at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run 
 longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough 
 clean.
 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
 factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
 Thank you guys!
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
> wrote:
> 
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  
> wrote:
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
> measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick 
> question about that. I presume when inserting the brass 
> adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the 
> vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is there another place on 
> there? Not sure if the way I worded my question makes sense but I hope it 
> does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>> 
>> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
>> cleaning and make sure the floats are 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-20 Thread Darin Hatton
I dig it , nighthawk touring edition

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019, 2:29 PM mike beatty  wrote:

> This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
>
> On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the
> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air
> pod filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> What size jets did you install?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Thanks for that - will persevere...
> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
> out more?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the
> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three
> to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle
> to get a true reading.
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what
> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open
> to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will
> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
> a bit of tweaking.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Few more inquiries about syncing.
> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb
> pressure is correct?
>
> In general (to my great frustration):
> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
> Thank you guys!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 
> Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from
> the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything
> yet - seems very clean.
> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  have
> changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
> Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
> Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything
> in the carb cleaner.
> Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
> Jenya
> 
> 
> 
>
> --
> 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-20 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Sweet ride man!! Great job!!

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:29 PM, mike beatty 
wrote:   This is what i did to my hawkyou guys like?
On Mar 19, 2019 5:39 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:


You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Did you remove the pilot screws? Did you blow air through every hole you could 
find? What do the diaphrams look like? 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:32 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
As you guys had suggested - with with carb cleaner (a gallon jar with a 
basket), everything was blown out with air and all was reassembled as before.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:08 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


How did you clean the carbs?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Let me get the carbs to work - 1 is not working and 3 is so so. I’ll follow 
your advice on getting the carbs to work. Will keep you all updated

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:41 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:



Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try just 
the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into 1 
exhaust both might be great.  
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com 
wrote:   
You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread Jenya Spektor
As you guys had suggested - with with carb cleaner (a gallon jar with a 
basket), everything was blown out with air and all was reassembled as before.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:08 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> How did you clean the carbs?
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Let me get the carbs to work - 1 is not working and 3 is so so. 
> I’ll follow your advice on getting the carbs to work. Will keep you all 
> updated
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:41 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try 
>> just the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into 
>> 1 exhaust both might be great. 
>>  
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
>> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
>> filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What size jets did you install?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>>  wrote:
>>> Thanks for that - will persevere...
>>> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of 
>>> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had 
>>> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the 
>>> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them 
>>> out more?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  
 wrote:
 
 One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the 
 one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three 
 to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle 
 to get a true reading. 
 Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what 
 you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
 open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
 Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will 
 at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
 One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
 choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
 trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
 doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a 
 bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took 
 a bit of tweaking.
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 Few more inquiries about syncing. 
 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
 pressure is correct?
 
 In general (to my great frustration):
 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - 
 today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are 
 at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run 
 longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough 
 clean.
 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
 factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
 Thank you guys!
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
> wrote:
> 
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  
> wrote:
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
> measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick 
> question about that. I presume when inserting the brass 
> adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the 
> vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is there another place on 
> there? Not sure if the way I worded my question makes sense but I hope it 
> does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>> 
>> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread Jenya Spektor
Will do

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:02 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> 
> Check the color of your spark plugs, save time and guess work
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:00 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Let me get the carbs to work - 1 is not working and 3 is so so. 
>> I’ll follow your advice on getting the carbs to work. Will keep you all 
>> updated
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:41 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try 
>>> just the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into 
>>> 1 exhaust both might be great. 
>>>  
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
>>> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>>>  wrote:
>>> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
>>> filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
 wrote:
 
 What size jets did you install?
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 
 On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
  wrote:
 Thanks for that - will persevere...
 What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of 
 gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had 
 installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the 
 pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them 
 out more?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  
> wrote:
> 
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the 
> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other 
> three to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well 
> at idle to get a true reading. 
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what 
> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
> open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will 
> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a 
> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it 
> took a bit of tweaking.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  
> wrote:
> Few more inquiries about syncing. 
> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the 
> carb pressure is correct?
> 
> In general (to my great frustration):
> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - 
> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are 
> at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run 
> longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough 
> clean.
> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
> Thank you guys!
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S 
>> Nighthawk last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  
>> wrote:
>> Hey friends!
>> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
>> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
>> measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick 
>> question about that. I presume when inserting the brass 
>> adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the 
>> vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is there another place on 
>> there? Not sure if the way I worded my question makes sense but I hope 
>> it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
>>> cleaning and make sure 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
How did you clean the carbs?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:00 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Let me get the carbs to work - 1 is not working and 3 is so so. I’ll follow 
your advice on getting the carbs to work. Will keep you all updated

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:41 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:



Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try just 
the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into 1 
exhaust both might be great.  
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com 
wrote:   
You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread Graham Rogers
Check the color of your spark plugs, save time and guess work

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:00 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Let me get the carbs to work - 1 is not working and 3 is so so.
> I’ll follow your advice on getting the carbs to work. Will keep you all
> updated
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:41 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
> Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try
> just the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into
> 1 exhaust both might be great.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
>
> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the
> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air
> pod filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> What size jets did you install?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Thanks for that - will persevere...
> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
> out more?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the
> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three
> to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle
> to get a true reading.
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what
> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open
> to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will
> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
> a bit of tweaking.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Few more inquiries about syncing.
> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb
> pressure is correct?
>
> In general (to my great frustration):
> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
> Thank you guys!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread Jenya Spektor
Let me get the carbs to work - 1 is not working and 3 is so so. 
I’ll follow your advice on getting the carbs to work. Will keep you all updated

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 8:41 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try just 
> the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into 1 
> exhaust both might be great. 
>  
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com
>  wrote:
> 
> You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
> exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
> filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> What size jets did you install?
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> Thanks for that - will persevere...
>> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of 
>> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had 
>> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the 
>> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them 
>> out more?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
>>> that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
>>> whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to 
>>> get a true reading. 
>>> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what you’re 
>>> going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open to 
>>> full unless that means choke ‘off’.
>>> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will at 
>>> least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
>>> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
>>> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
>>> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
>>> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a 
>>> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took 
>>> a bit of tweaking.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>> Few more inquiries about syncing. 
>>> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
>>> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
>>> pressure is correct?
>>> 
>>> In general (to my great frustration):
>>> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - today 
>>> the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at 70* C 
>>> after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer - this 
>>> is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
>>> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
>>> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
>>> Thank you guys!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
 wrote:
 
 I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
 last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 Hey friends!
 So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
 working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
 measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick 
 question about that. I presume when inserting the brass 
 adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the 
 vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is there another place on 
 there? Not sure if the way I worded my question makes sense but I hope it 
 does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
> 
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
> 
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor  Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from 
> the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything 
> yet - seems very clean.
> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  
> have changed the O-rings and the gaskets on 

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com

Did you install the washers? That will add to the problem. You might try just 
the washers with the stock jets. That might be best. If you had 4 into 1 
exhaust both might be great.  
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 4:39 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com 
wrote:   
You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com

You will definitely need to try some leaning if it's spitting fuel out the 
exhaust! That's a 120 jet.
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:37 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


What size jets did you install?

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  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread Jenya Spektor
I got it (the rejetting kit)from carbjetkits.com for the CB650 with air pod 
filters. I have not modified anything else on the bike.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:20 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> What size jets did you install?
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> Thanks for that - will persevere...
> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of gasoline 
> coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had installed 
> pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the pilot screws 
> are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them out more?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
>> that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
>> whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to 
>> get a true reading. 
>> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what you’re 
>> going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open to full 
>> unless that means choke ‘off’.
>> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will at 
>> least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
>> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
>> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
>> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
>> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a bit. 
>> The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took a bit 
>> of tweaking.
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Few more inquiries about syncing. 
>> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
>> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
>> pressure is correct?
>> 
>> In general (to my great frustration):
>> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - today 
>> the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at 70* C 
>> after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer - this is 
>> the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
>> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
>> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
>> Thank you guys!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
>>> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>> Hey friends!
>>> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
>>> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured 
>>> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about 
>>> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
>>> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be 
>>> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way 
>>> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics 
>>> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
 
 If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
 cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
 
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor >>> Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from 
 the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
 Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything 
 yet - seems very clean.
 The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  have 
 changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
 Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
 Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything 
 in the carb cleaner.
 Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
 Jenya
 
 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-19 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
What size jets did you install?

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  On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 7:53 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Thanks for that - will persevere...What about the fact that I have a bluish 
smoke and a strong smell of gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had 
mentioned, but I had installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs 
accordingly. While the pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. 
Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get a 
true reading. Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through 
what you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke 
open to full unless that means choke ‘off’.Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, 
black with carbon, white? That will at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s 
wet, dry it off and try again. One minute with choke operation not long enough, 
did you try backing the choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve 
fooled around for hours trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe 
that one cylinder doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting 
procedure a bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but 
it took a bit of tweaking.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Few more inquiries about syncing. 1. The manual said to have choke open to full 
- is that correct?2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial 
when the carb pressure is correct?
In general (to my great frustration):1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not 
working at a random order - today the number one is not working(the header is 
cold) while others are at 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should 
I let it run longer - this is the first time I am starting after a full and 
thorough clean.2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.Thank you 
guys!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:


I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk last 
and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey friends!So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem 
to be working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question 
about that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the 
intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
later on. Thanks all.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 


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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-03-19 Thread Graham Rogers
The smell of gas might be that # 1 not firing and gas going right through.
Don’t know about leaning out the pilot screws or the consequences of
rejetting and airpods. Try turning the screws out one turn and see.

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 8:53 AM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Thanks for that - will persevere...
> What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of
> gasoline coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had
> installed pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the
> pilot screws are at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them
> out more?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the
> one that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three
> to, whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle
> to get a true reading.
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what
> you’re going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open
> to full unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will
> at least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
> bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
> a bit of tweaking.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Few more inquiries about syncing.
>> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
>> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the
>> carb pressure is correct?
>>
>> In general (to my great frustration):
>> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
>> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
>> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
>> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
>> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
>> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
>> Thank you guys!
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
>> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey friends!
>>> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
>>> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
>>> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
>>> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
>>> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
>>> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
>>> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
>>> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
>>> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor >>
 Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from
 the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
 Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned
 anything yet - seems very clean.
 The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I
 have changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
 Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
 Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak
 anything in the carb cleaner.
 Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
 Jenya
 
 
 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-03-19 Thread Jenya Spektor
Thanks for that - will persevere...
What about the fact that I have a bluish smoke and a strong smell of gasoline 
coming out of the pipes? Not sure if I had mentioned, but I had installed 
pancake air pods and rejetted the carbs accordingly. While the pilot screws are 
at the factory recommended 2 5/8 out. Should I lean them out more?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 17, 2019, at 9:23 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> 
> One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one 
> that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to, 
> whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to get 
> a true reading. 
> Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what you’re 
> going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open to full 
> unless that means choke ‘off’.
> Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will at 
> least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again. 
> One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the 
> choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours 
> trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder 
> doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a bit. 
> The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took a bit 
> of tweaking.
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Few more inquiries about syncing. 
>> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
>> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
>> pressure is correct?
>> 
>> In general (to my great frustration):
>> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - today 
>> the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at 70* C 
>> after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer - this is 
>> the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
>> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the 
>> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
>> Thank you guys!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
>>> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>>> 
 On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 Hey friends!
 So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
 working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - 
 measured it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick 
 question about that. I presume when inserting the brass 
 adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the 
 vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is there another place on 
 there? Not sure if the way I worded my question makes sense but I hope it 
 does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
> 
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor > Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from 
>> the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
>> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything 
>> yet - seems very clean.
>> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  
>> have changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
>> Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
>> Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything 
>> in the carb cleaner.
>> Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
>> Jenya
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-03-17 Thread Graham Rogers
One carb, you will not be able to adjust, # 3 in your case I think, the one
that has the vacuum tube. So that is the one you synch the other three to,
whatever it reads. The trick is getting it running fairly well at idle to
get a true reading.
Yes let it run longer to get #1 running. We’ve all been through what you’re
going through, so persist. You can’t synch the carbs with choke open to
full unless that means choke ‘off’.
Check that #1 spark plug, is it wet, black with carbon, white? That will at
least tell you what’s going on. If it’s wet, dry it off and try again.
One minute with choke operation not long enough, did you try backing the
choke off and seeing if that cylinder fires. I’ve fooled around for hours
trying to get all cylinders running sometimes. Maybe that one cylinder
doesn’t need choke, you just have to experiment in starting procedure a
bit. The last Nighthawk I synced all cylinders ended up at 20  but it took
a bit of tweaking.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 9:09 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Few more inquiries about syncing.
> 1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
> 2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb
> pressure is correct?
>
> In general (to my great frustration):
> 1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order -
> today the number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at
> 70* C after a minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer -
> this is the first time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
> 2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the
> factory/manual setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
> Thank you guys!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey friends!
>> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
>> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
>> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
>> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
>> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
>> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
>> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
>> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>>
>> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
>> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor >
>>> Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from
>>> the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
>>> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything
>>> yet - seems very clean.
>>> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I
>>> have changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
>>> Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
>>> Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything
>>> in the carb cleaner.
>>> Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
>>> Jenya
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-03-17 Thread Jenya Spektor
Few more inquiries about syncing. 
1. The manual said to have choke open to full - is that correct?
2. Where does the needle need to point on the sync gage dial when the carb 
pressure is correct?

In general (to my great frustration):
1. It’s weird but the damn carbs keep not working at a random order - today the 
number one is not working(the header is cold) while others are at 70* C after a 
minute of open choke operation. Should I let it run longer - this is the first 
time I am starting after a full and thorough clean.
2. Should I lean out the pilot screw more (right now is at the factory/manual 
setting) - the exhaust smells strongly of gasoline.
Thank you guys!


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 17, 2019, at 1:46 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> 
> I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk 
> last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.
> 
>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Hey friends!
>> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
>> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured 
>> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about 
>> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the intake 
>> tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected 
>> first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my 
>> question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate 
>> later on. Thanks all.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
>>> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>>> 
 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor >>> Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from 
 the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
 Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything 
 yet - seems very clean.
 The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  have 
 changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
 Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
 Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything 
 in the carb cleaner.
 Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-03-17 Thread Graham Rogers
I sometimes remove the vacuum tube, sometimes not. I did a 700S Nighthawk
last and just used the connecting adapter to the vacuum tube.

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019 at 1:18 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Hey friends!
> So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be
> working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured
> it with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about
> that. I presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the
> intake tubes, for the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be
> disconnected first? Or is there another place on there? Not sure if the way
> I worded my question makes sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics
> to illustrate later on. Thanks all.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from
>> the air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
>> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything
>> yet - seems very clean.
>> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I
>> have changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
>> Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
>> Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything
>> in the carb cleaner.
>> Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
>> Jenya
>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-03-17 Thread Jenya Spektor
Hey friends!
So I have cleaned everything, installed them on the bike. All seem to be 
working (even thought #3 header pipe is not as hot as the others - measured it 
with the thermometer). Now on to syncing - and a quick question about that. I 
presume when inserting the brass adapters/extensions into the intake tubes, for 
the number 3 intake, the vacuum tube needs to be disconnected first? Or is 
there another place on there? Not sure if the way I worded my question makes 
sense but I hope it does. Will snap a few pics to illustrate later on. Thanks 
all.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
> 
> If you plan on doing this great, blow out every hole you can find after 
> cleaning and make sure the floats are at 18.5 mm. Good luck!!
> 
>> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 1:16 PM Jenya Spektor > Hey - so i got the carbs off (actually I took off the rubber boots from the 
>> air filter box) and the rest was super easy.
>> Here is the state of the carbs as they are - i have not cleaned anything yet 
>> - seems very clean.
>> The rubber gaskets are a gonner thought - all plasticky and tough. I  have 
>> changed the O-rings and the gaskets on the bowls.
>> Keeping my fingers crossed as I am putting it back together.
>> Let me know (looking at the pics) if there still a need to soak anything in 
>> the carb cleaner.
>> Thanks to all - I'll keep you posted on the progress.
>> Jenya
>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Darin Hatton
I had one float needle that wouldn't seat in mine. Replaced float needle, still 
wouldn't seat. Next time I had them out I used a q-tip in drill with mothers 
aluminum polish to clean up brass valve seat and haven’t lost a drop of gas 
since.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Darin Hatton
And be sure you do the "woosh" test after reassemble. If you don't know what 
that is, stick your finger in carb in push piston up and let fall. Each one 
should make the same woosh sound and return at approximately the same speed. If 
any of them return faster than the others you don't have diaphragm in right or 
diaphragm is bad. If you missed any dirt, grit, etc, you will feel when you 
push up. Clean everything as clean as you can get it while you have carbs out. 
Wouldn’t want to pull them again because I missed something. My 2 cents. Darin

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
If you're talking about the black diaphrams you remove from the top you might 
wipe them down with light silicone spray. Did you check them for cracks, tears 
or holes?

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  On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 2:14 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Since it’s plastic - soapy water and dry them out after? Or should I just leave 
them be?

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Bob Sheller  wrote:


What are you soaking them in?
On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:52 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

Hey guys - I am about to clean the carbs again - do I have to also wipe down 
the vacuum cylinder along with soaking and cleaning all the brass parts? Let me 
know please.

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On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:


Might I add to pikes post - LOTS of compressed air after soaking. Make sure you 
can see light thru all jets and emulsion tubes before re-installing
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 8:10 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
 wrote:

Not sure exactly how you are cleaning your carbs but soaking the main jets,idle 
jets,float pins,float bowls with the drains removed in a gallon can of  carb 
vat is the best way  to clean carbs in my opinion.

On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Darin Hatton  wrote:


I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs again and 
check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you haven’t done 
so. Good luck
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers  wrote:

 Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock vacuum 
tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is running, 
increase in revs indicates vacuum leak

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On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:


1. How to check for spark?2. Float seem to be right - 18mm3. This is he second 
time putting them together- previously only #4 did not work (after I cleaned 
them initially). 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the 
temp.5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while 
they were working.6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs 
have air filters on them.I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J

Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:


Was the float height in specs?
On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor  
wrote:


Is that the one that's on this thread?

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton wrote:  
 Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:

If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Graham Rogers
Turning the carbs upside down to remove the carb bowls fills the diaphragm
slides with gas anyway so you may as well clean them. I don’t use water. I
just spray carb cleaner on everything and dry thoroughly. Be sure
diaphragms are replace properly

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 3:14 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Since it’s plastic - soapy water and dry them out after? Or should I just
> leave them be?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Bob Sheller  wrote:
>
> What are you soaking them in?
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:52 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
>> Hey guys - I am about to clean the carbs again - do I have to also wipe
>> down the vacuum cylinder along with soaking and cleaning all the brass
>> parts? Let me know please.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>
>> Might I add to pikes post - LOTS of compressed air after soaking. Make
>> sure you can see light thru all jets and emulsion tubes before re-installing
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 8:10 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <
>> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Not sure exactly how you are cleaning your carbs but soaking the main
>>> jets,idle jets,float pins,float bowls with the drains removed in a gallon
>>> can of  carb vat is the best way  to clean carbs in my opinion.
>>> [image: image1.png]
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Darin Hatton 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs
>>> again and check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you
>>> haven’t done so. Good luck
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock
 vacuum tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is
 running, increase in revs indicates vacuum leak

 Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor 
 wrote:

 1. How to check for spark?
 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did
 not work (after I cleaned them initially).
 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while
 they were working.
 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air
 filters on them.
 I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller 
 wrote:

 Was the float height in specs?

 On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor >>> wrote:

> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
> What should I do? Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" <
> bobshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is that the one that's on this thread?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>  wrote:
> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller 
> wrote:
>
> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
> from.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Jenya Spektor
Since it’s plastic - soapy water and dry them out after? Or should I just leave 
them be?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 4, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Bob Sheller  wrote:
> 
> What are you soaking them in?
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:52 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Hey guys - I am about to clean the carbs again - do I have to also wipe down 
>> the vacuum cylinder along with soaking and cleaning all the brass parts? Let 
>> me know please.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Might I add to pikes post - LOTS of compressed air after soaking. Make sure 
>>> you can see light thru all jets and emulsion tubes before re-installing
>>> 
 On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 8:10 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
  wrote:
 Not sure exactly how you are cleaning your carbs but soaking the main 
 jets,idle jets,float pins,float bowls with the drains removed in a gallon 
 can of  carb vat is the best way  to clean carbs in my opinion.
 
 
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
> 
> I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs 
> again and check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you 
> haven’t done so. Good luck
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers  
>> wrote:
>>  Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock 
>> vacuum tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is 
>> running, increase in revs indicates vacuum leak
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1. How to check for spark?
>>> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
>>> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did 
>>> not work (after I cleaned them initially). 
>>> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
>>> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while 
>>> they were working.
>>> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air 
>>> filters on them.
>>> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  
 wrote:
 
 Was the float height in specs?
 
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back. 
> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to 
> touch). What should I do? Thanks 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Is that the one that's on this thread?
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>>  wrote:
>> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  
>> wrote:
>> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job 
>> Darin!
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton > wrote:
>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory 
>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed 
>> mine from. 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Graham Rogers
I do

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019, 2:53 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Hey guys - I am about to clean the carbs again - do I have to also wipe
> down the vacuum cylinder along with soaking and cleaning all the brass
> parts? Let me know please.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> Might I add to pikes post - LOTS of compressed air after soaking. Make
> sure you can see light thru all jets and emulsion tubes before re-installing
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 8:10 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Not sure exactly how you are cleaning your carbs but soaking the main
>> jets,idle jets,float pins,float bowls with the drains removed in a gallon
>> can of  carb vat is the best way  to clean carbs in my opinion.
>> [image: image1.png]
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>
>> I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs
>> again and check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you
>> haven’t done so. Good luck
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock
>>> vacuum tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is
>>> running, increase in revs indicates vacuum leak
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. How to check for spark?
>>> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
>>> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did
>>> not work (after I cleaned them initially).
>>> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
>>> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while
>>> they were working.
>>> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air
>>> filters on them.
>>> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Was the float height in specs?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor >>
 So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
 Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
 What should I do? Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" <
 bobshel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Is that the one that's on this thread?

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
  wrote:
 Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller 
 wrote:

 If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >>> wrote:

 Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
 service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
 from.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Bob Sheller
What are you soaking them in?

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 1:52 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Hey guys - I am about to clean the carbs again - do I have to also wipe
> down the vacuum cylinder along with soaking and cleaning all the brass
> parts? Let me know please.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>
> Might I add to pikes post - LOTS of compressed air after soaking. Make
> sure you can see light thru all jets and emulsion tubes before re-installing
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 8:10 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! <
> nighthawk_lovers@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Not sure exactly how you are cleaning your carbs but soaking the main
>> jets,idle jets,float pins,float bowls with the drains removed in a gallon
>> can of  carb vat is the best way  to clean carbs in my opinion.
>> [image: image1.png]
>>
>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>
>> I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs
>> again and check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you
>> haven’t done so. Good luck
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock
>>> vacuum tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is
>>> running, increase in revs indicates vacuum leak
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>>>
>>> 1. How to check for spark?
>>> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
>>> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did
>>> not work (after I cleaned them initially).
>>> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
>>> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while
>>> they were working.
>>> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air
>>> filters on them.
>>> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Was the float height in specs?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor >>
 So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
 Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
 What should I do? Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" <
 bobshel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Is that the one that's on this thread?

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
  wrote:
 Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller 
 wrote:

 If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >>> wrote:

 Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
 service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
 from.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-03-04 Thread Jenya Spektor
Hey guys - I am about to clean the carbs again - do I have to also wipe down 
the vacuum cylinder along with soaking and cleaning all the brass parts? Let me 
know please.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
> 
> Might I add to pikes post - LOTS of compressed air after soaking. Make sure 
> you can see light thru all jets and emulsion tubes before re-installing
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019, 8:10 AM 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! 
>>  wrote:
>> Not sure exactly how you are cleaning your carbs but soaking the main 
>> jets,idle jets,float pins,float bowls with the drains removed in a gallon 
>> can of  carb vat is the best way  to clean carbs in my opinion.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 18, 2019, at 6:33 AM, Darin Hatton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs again 
>>> and check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you haven’t 
>>> done so. Good luck
>>> 
 On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers  
 wrote:
  Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock 
 vacuum tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is 
 running, increase in revs indicates vacuum leak
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:
> 
> 1. How to check for spark?
> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did 
> not work (after I cleaned them initially). 
> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while 
> they were working.
> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air 
> filters on them.
> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>> 
>> Was the float height in specs?
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor >> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back. 
>>> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch). 
>>> What should I do? Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
  wrote:
 
 Is that the one that's on this thread?
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
  wrote:
 Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  
 wrote:
 If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >>> wrote:
 Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory 
 service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine 
 from. 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-18 Thread Darin Hatton
I'm with graham.  If you have spark on those 2 cylinders clean carbs again
and check compression on those cylinders while carbs are off if you haven’t
done so. Good luck

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 8:45 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

>  Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock
> vacuum tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is
> running, increase in revs indicates vacuum leak
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>
> 1. How to check for spark?
> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did
> not work (after I cleaned them initially).
> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while
> they were working.
> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air
> filters on them.
> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> Was the float height in specs?
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
>> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
>> What should I do? Thanks
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is that the one that's on this thread?
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>>  wrote:
>> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >
>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
>> from.
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Graham Rogers
 Also check for vacuum leaks, vacuum tube screws in securely, pet cock vacuum 
tube not leaking. Spray starting fluid around carbs while bike is running, 
increase in revs indicates vacuum leak

Sent from my iPad

> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:23 PM, Jenya Spektor  wrote:
> 
> 1. How to check for spark?
> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did not 
> work (after I cleaned them initially). 
> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while they 
> were working.
> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air filters 
> on them.
> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>> 
>> Was the float height in specs?
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor >> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back. Number 
>>> 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch). What 
>>> should I do? Thanks 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
 wrote:
 
 Is that the one that's on this thread?
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
  wrote:
 Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:
 If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
 
 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory 
 service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine 
 from. 
 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Graham Rogers
Check spark by removing spark plug wire from # 1 plug and attaching any old
spark plug you have. Then ground the ‘old plug’ that’s attached to the plug
wire to the head, hit the starter button just enough to see spark. If 1 & 3
were working before, it’s unlikely that it’s spark.
Third time taking apart and cleaning again should do it!

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 8:23 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> 1. How to check for spark?
> 2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
> 3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did
> not work (after I cleaned them initially).
> 4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
> 5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while
> they were working.
> 6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air
> filters on them.
> I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> Was the float height in specs?
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
>> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
>> What should I do? Thanks
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is that the one that's on this thread?
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>>  wrote:
>> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller 
>> wrote:
>>
>> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >
>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
>> from.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Jenya Spektor
1. How to check for spark?
2. Float seem to be right - 18mm
3. This is he second time putting them together- previously only #4 did not 
work (after I cleaned them initially). 
4. I only run the engine for 2 min or so before checking the temp.
5. There was a hissing (almost like a fast hiss) from one of them while they 
were working.
6. I did not connect the rubber air intake boots - the carbs have air filters 
on them.
I think I covered it all. Thanks again friends! J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 17, 2019, at 8:11 PM, Arthur Sheller  wrote:
> 
> Was the float height in specs?
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor > So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back. Number 
>> 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch). What should 
>> I do? Thanks 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
>>> wrote:
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>>> Is that the one that's on this thread?
>>> 
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>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>>>  wrote:
>>> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>>> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory 
>>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine from. 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Arthur Sheller
Was the float height in specs?

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019, 6:56 PM Jenya Spektor  So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
> What should I do? Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> Is that the one that's on this thread?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>  wrote:
> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton 
> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
> from.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Graham Rogers
I meant synch the carbs, not such

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 8:07 PM Graham Rogers 
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> Check for spark on those two cylinders. If no spark, coil is next. If
> there is spark, it’s back to the carbs. Any leaking gas from the carbs? Did
> you such the carbs, bit hard if it’s only running on two I guess. In my
> experience I have taken the carbs apart up to three times before getting a
> Nighthawk running right on all four. Still  1 and 3, first check for spark.
>
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:56 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
>> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
>> What should I do? Thanks
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> wrote:
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>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>>  wrote:
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>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller 
>> wrote:
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >
>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Graham Rogers
Check for spark on those two cylinders. If no spark, coil is next. If there
is spark, it’s back to the carbs. Any leaking gas from the carbs? Did you
such the carbs, bit hard if it’s only running on two I guess. In my
experience I have taken the carbs apart up to three times before getting a
Nighthawk running right on all four. Still  1 and 3, first check for spark.

On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 7:56 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back.
> Number 1 and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch).
> What should I do? Thanks
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 31, 2019, at 5:45 PM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
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>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton
>  wrote:
> Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:
>
> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton 
> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-02-17 Thread Jenya Spektor
So cleaned the carbs, changed all the  rubber and installed it back. Number 1 
and 3 are not working (the exhaust headers are cold to touch). What should I 
do? Thanks 

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> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
I have the free manual and the colored wire diagram on my phone and
computer. They're awesome@

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:41 PM Darin Hatton  Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:
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>> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton >
>>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
>>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine from.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Is that the one that's on this thread?

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 4:41 PM, Darin Hatton wrote:  
 Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:

If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
Exactly

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
;-)

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 10:26 AM Graham Rogers  Just kidding on the speed control!
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton 
>> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
>> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
>> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>>  wrote:
>>> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
>>> bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
>>> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
>>> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
>>> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
>>> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
>>> Jenya
>>> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
>>> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
Hate to see a fellow honda lover trying to use a Clymer manual ; )

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 5:39 PM Arthur Sheller  wrote:

> If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton 
>> Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
>> service manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine from.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
If he said he didn't have one I was going to tell him. Good job Darin!

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:37 PM Darin Hatton  Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
Hey jenya, I didn't see anyone recommend you to a free honda factory service 
manual? Manualslib.com is where I downloaded and printed mine from. 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
It's also a safety for those who never lube the cables. In the occasional
cable fail you can still pull back the throttle. Some might say kill
switch. I say don't chance a perfect storm. Good luck!

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 4:15 PM Darin Hatton  After giving the 2 cable throttle system a little more thought I
> understand why I need both. The spring you load as you accelerate pulls the
> throttle shut upon release. If no second cable the spring is trying to push
> the cable and throttle back to idle position. The way the spring mechanism
> is made is to pull the throttle back into idle position not be pushed back
> . Thus the slow return. Without your input I would still be thinking down
> the same path. Thank you all and I'll soon be sourcing cable
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Graham Rogers
You got it

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 5:15 PM Darin Hatton  wrote:

> After giving the 2 cable throttle system a little more thought I
> understand why I need both. The spring you load as you accelerate pulls the
> throttle shut upon release. If no second cable the spring is trying to push
> the cable and throttle back to idle position. The way the spring mechanism
> is made is to pull the throttle back into idle position not be pushed back
> . Thus the slow return. Without your input I would still be thinking down
> the same path. Thank you all and I'll soon be sourcing cable
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
After giving the 2 cable throttle system a little more thought I understand why 
I need both. The spring you load as you accelerate pulls the throttle shut upon 
release. If no second cable the spring is trying to push the cable and throttle 
back to idle position. The way the spring mechanism is made is to pull the 
throttle back into idle position not be pushed back . Thus the slow return. 
Without your input I would still be thinking down the same path. Thank you all 
and I'll soon be sourcing cable

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
That would be awesome! Do you lube your cable regularly?

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 11:29 AM, 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle 
Lovers! wrote:   Just offering a different 
opinion on the open close throttle cable setup.i removed the close cable on my 
1984 700s 15 years ago and its been smooth sailing ever since.
On Jan 31, 2019, at 11:02 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
wrote:


No problem buddy!

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:59 AM, Darin Hatton wrote: 
  Thanks Bob
On Jan 31, 2019 11:54 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:

Lube all pivot points from carbs to throttle. Also you need to get the 
adjustment just right for both cables. Good luck!

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:21 AM, Darin Hatton wrote: 
  I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return spring 
on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow return . Speed 
control?  85 cb700sc 
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com  wrote:

Does the cable slide freely inside the housing? 

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit 
sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the cables. 
They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle would become 
sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with something else? Or is 
this it for them? Let me know - I would like to explore all possible solutions 
before a go changing the two cables. Best, Jenya
PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the spring 
is at 100% or so it seems.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Just offering a different opinion on the open close throttle cable setup.i 
removed the close cable on my 1984 700s 15 years ago and its been smooth 
sailing ever since.

> On Jan 31, 2019, at 11:02 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  
> wrote:
> 
> No problem buddy!
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:59 AM, Darin Hatton
>  wrote:
> Thanks Bob
> 
> On Jan 31, 2019 11:54 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:
> Lube all pivot points from carbs to throttle. Also you need to get the 
> adjustment just right for both cables. Good luck!
> 
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> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return spring 
> on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow return . Speed 
> control?  85 cb700sc 
> 
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> wrote:
> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing? 
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> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit 
> sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the 
> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle 
> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with 
> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to explore 
> all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best, Jenya
> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the 
> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
Also did you guys follow the procedure for reassembling the set and bolt
tightening sequence? This helps alignment and reduces binding. It's in the
service manual if you have one. Good luck!

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:02 AM bobshel...@gmail.com  No problem buddy!
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> Thanks Bob
>
> On Jan 31, 2019 11:54 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
> Lube all pivot points from carbs to throttle. Also you need to get the
> adjustment just right for both cables. Good luck!
>
>
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>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:21 AM, Darin Hatton
>  wrote:
> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>
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> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
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> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit
> sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
> Jenya
> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
No problem buddy!

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:59 AM, Darin Hatton wrote: 
  Thanks Bob
On Jan 31, 2019 11:54 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com"  wrote:

Lube all pivot points from carbs to throttle. Also you need to get the 
adjustment just right for both cables. Good luck!

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:21 AM, Darin Hatton wrote: 
  I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return spring 
on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow return . Speed 
control?  85 cb700sc 
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com  wrote:

Does the cable slide freely inside the housing? 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit 
sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the cables. 
They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle would become 
sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with something else? Or is 
this it for them? Let me know - I would like to explore all possible solutions 
before a go changing the two cables. Best, Jenya
PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the spring 
is at 100% or so it seems.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
Thanks Bob

On Jan 31, 2019 11:54 AM, "bobshel...@gmail.com" 
wrote:

Lube all pivot points from carbs to throttle. Also you need to get the
adjustment just right for both cables. Good luck!


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On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:21 AM, Darin Hatton
 wrote:
I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
 wrote:
One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit
sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
Jenya
PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
spring is at 100% or so it seems.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Lube all pivot points from carbs to throttle. Also you need to get the 
adjustment just right for both cables. Good luck!

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:21 AM, Darin Hatton wrote: 
  I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return spring 
on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow return . Speed 
control?  85 cb700sc 
On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com  wrote:

Does the cable slide freely inside the housing? 

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit 
sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the cables. 
They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle would become 
sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with something else? Or is 
this it for them? Let me know - I would like to explore all possible solutions 
before a go changing the two cables. Best, Jenya
PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the spring 
is at 100% or so it seems.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Arthur Sheller
Try seafoam deep creep it works great. I start at the throttle and add
until it drips out the bottom. Pivot points also.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019, 2:28 PM Jenya Spektor  I did - I used silicone lube for those.
>
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>> Lol!! When you put the o rings in did you lube them with light oil first?
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Graham Rogers
PO left second cable out because so hard to install probably

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:39 AM Darin Hatton 
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:33 AM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> I think you need to add the second cable
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:30 AM Darin Hatton > wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda picked up on that graham ; ) I checked the cable routing when I
>>> last had carbs off. That what got me was how free the cable was , I only
>>> have one, and checked the return spring.  A previous owner removed one
>>> cable and center stand for some reason. Probably the same reason the front
>>> fender was mounted backwards.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:26 AM Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just kidding on the speed control!

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton >>> wrote:

> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com <
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>> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>>
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>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
>> bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of 
>> the
>> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
>> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
>> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
>> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
>> Jenya
>> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and
>> the spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
I'm sure it wouldn't hurt.  Have only put about 100 miles on it since I
picked it up in october.  Will check out putting one on. I'm posting pic of
bike when I went to pick it up. You can see the front fender mounted
backwards

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:33 AM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> I think you need to add the second cable
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:30 AM Darin Hatton 
>> Kinda picked up on that graham ; ) I checked the cable routing when I
>> last had carbs off. That what got me was how free the cable was , I only
>> have one, and checked the return spring.  A previous owner removed one
>> cable and center stand for some reason. Probably the same reason the front
>> fender was mounted backwards.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:26 AM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just kidding on the speed control!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton >> wrote:
>>>
 I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
 spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
 return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com <
 bobshel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
> bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of 
> the
> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
> Jenya
> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and
> the spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Graham Rogers
You need the second cable. Its not a Yamaha XJ650

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:34 AM Kyle Munz  I would recommend the second cable, better safe than sorry. Also if cables
> don't slide freely when out of the bike I would replace them.
>
> -Kyle
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:33 AM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> I think you need to add the second cable
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:30 AM Darin Hatton > wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda picked up on that graham ; ) I checked the cable routing when I
>>> last had carbs off. That what got me was how free the cable was , I only
>>> have one, and checked the return spring.  A previous owner removed one
>>> cable and center stand for some reason. Probably the same reason the front
>>> fender was mounted backwards.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:26 AM Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Just kidding on the speed control!

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton >>> wrote:

> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com <
> bobshel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
>> bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of 
>> the
>> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
>> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
>> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
>> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
>> Jenya
>> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and
>> the spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Kyle Munz
I would recommend the second cable, better safe than sorry. Also if cables
don't slide freely when out of the bike I would replace them.

-Kyle


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:33 AM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> I think you need to add the second cable
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:30 AM Darin Hatton 
>> Kinda picked up on that graham ; ) I checked the cable routing when I
>> last had carbs off. That what got me was how free the cable was , I only
>> have one, and checked the return spring.  A previous owner removed one
>> cable and center stand for some reason. Probably the same reason the front
>> fender was mounted backwards.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:26 AM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just kidding on the speed control!
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton >> wrote:
>>>
 I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
 spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
 return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc

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 bobshel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
> bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of 
> the
> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
> Jenya
> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and
> the spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Graham Rogers
I think you need to add the second cable

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:30 AM Darin Hatton  Kinda picked up on that graham ; ) I checked the cable routing when I last
> had carbs off. That what got me was how free the cable was , I only have
> one, and checked the return spring.  A previous owner removed one cable and
> center stand for some reason. Probably the same reason the front fender was
> mounted backwards.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:26 AM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> Just kidding on the speed control!
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton > wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
>>> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
>>> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?

 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 

 On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
  wrote:
 One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
 bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
 cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
 would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
 something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
 explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
 Jenya
 PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and
 the spring is at 100% or so it seems.

 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
Kinda picked up on that graham ; ) I checked the cable routing when I last
had carbs off. That what got me was how free the cable was , I only have
one, and checked the return spring.  A previous owner removed one cable and
center stand for some reason. Probably the same reason the front fender was
mounted backwards.


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:26 AM Graham Rogers 
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> Just kidding on the speed control!
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton 
>> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
>> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
>> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>>  wrote:
>>> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a
>>> bit sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
>>> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
>>> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
>>> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
>>> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
>>> Jenya
>>> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
>>> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Graham Rogers
Just kidding on the speed control!

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 11:21 AM Darin Hatton  I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
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>> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit
>> sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
>> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
>> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
>> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
>> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
>> Jenya
>> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
>> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Kyle Munz
Check how you have your cables routed. If they move freely out of the bike
but stick when installed you might have them bound up somewhere.

-Kyle


On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 10:21 AM Darin Hatton 
wrote:

> I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
> spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
> return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>>  wrote:
>> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit
>> sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
>> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
>> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
>> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
>> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
>> Jenya
>> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
>> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Darin Hatton
I noticed mine does the same thing. Cables are free as can be, return
spring on carbs stiff as hell but when trying to blip throttle,  slow
return . Speed control?  85 cb700sc

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 8:45 AM bobshel...@gmail.com 
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> Does the cable slide freely inside the housing?
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor
>  wrote:
> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit
> sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
> Jenya
> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Does the cable slide freely inside the housing? 

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  On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 7:38 AM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit 
sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the cables. 
They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle would become 
sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with something else? Or is 
this it for them? Let me know - I would like to explore all possible solutions 
before a go changing the two cables. Best, Jenya
PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the spring 
is at 100% or so it seems.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Graham Rogers
You have the Nighthawk automatic speed control model

On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 8:38 AM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit
> sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the
> cables. They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle
> would become sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with
> something else? Or is this it for them? Let me know - I would like to
> explore all possible solutions before a go changing the two cables. Best,
> Jenya
> PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the
> spring is at 100% or so it seems.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-31 Thread Jenya Spektor
One more thing - not directly related but... my throttle cables are a bit 
sticky. So I used the ‘drislide’ bike aid oil to live the inside of the cables. 
They would work fine for a few rides and then the throttle handle would become 
sticky again. Is there a trick of cleaning them out with something else? Or is 
this it for them? Let me know - I would like to explore all possible solutions 
before a go changing the two cables. Best, Jenya
PS - the throttle ‘linkage’ on the carb itself has a strong pull and the spring 
is at 100% or so it seems.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-30 Thread Tommy Hill
That’s it, Jenya!!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread Graham Rogers
You got it

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> I just looked at the 650 parts diagram and it calls for 10 o rings total.
> Good luck!
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> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:34 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com
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> That's right. Does the 650 have one fuel line that connects carbs 2 and 3
> like the 700 S? If so did you replace those o rings? Also the 18.5 mm is
> for the 700 S floats. 650 is maybe 12.5 mm? Sorry for the bad information!
>
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> On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:24 PM, Jenya Spektor
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> the 6 orings on two aluminum and one black plastic connectors between the
> carbs... the black plastic t-shaped tube connects to the tank I believe.
>
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> > On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Tommy Hill  wrote:
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
I just looked at the 650 parts diagram and it calls for 10 o rings total. Good 
luck!

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  On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:34 PM, bobshel...@gmail.com 
wrote:   That's right. Does the 650 have one fuel line that connects carbs 2 
and 3 like the 700 S? If so did you replace those o rings? Also the 18.5 mm is 
for the 700 S floats. 650 is maybe 12.5 mm? Sorry for the bad information! 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:24 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Pardon my ignorance - but where is the fuel rail located? I had changed the 6 
orings on two aluminum and one black plastic connectors between the carbs... 
the black plastic t-shaped tube connects to the tank I believe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Tommy Hill  wrote:
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> Did you also replace orings on the fuel rail?  I know it is more work, but I 
> highly recommend it. 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
That's right. Does the 650 have one fuel line that connects carbs 2 and 3 like 
the 700 S? If so did you replace those o rings? Also the 18.5 mm is for the 700 
S floats. 650 is maybe 12.5 mm? Sorry for the bad information! 

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  On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 3:24 PM, Jenya Spektor wrote:   
Pardon my ignorance - but where is the fuel rail located? I had changed the 6 
orings on two aluminum and one black plastic connectors between the carbs... 
the black plastic t-shaped tube connects to the tank I believe.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 29, 2019, at 4:17 PM, Tommy Hill  wrote:
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread Jenya Spektor
Pardon my ignorance - but where is the fuel rail located? I had changed the 6 
orings on two aluminum and one black plastic connectors between the carbs... 
the black plastic t-shaped tube connects to the tank I believe.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread Graham Rogers
Specially if the carbs were leaking. That’s where the carbs on an XJ750
where leaking I recently rebuilt

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread Tommy Hill
Did you also replace orings on the fuel rail?  I know it is more work, but I 
highly recommend it. 

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Good job!

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I did - I used silicone lube for those.
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Lol!! When you put the o rings in did you lube them with light oil first?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread Jenya Spektor
I did - I used silicone lube for those.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the

2019-01-29 Thread bobshel...@gmail.com
Lol!! When you put the o rings in did you lube them with light oil first?

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-29 Thread Graham Rogers
You got that right!

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-29 Thread Holger Selover-Stephan
Mom!? Is that you???

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-14 Thread 'roidfingers' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
I bought the HF ultra sonic cleaner. Used Simple green. Took off bowls and 
removed jets. Also top half. Very easy. Did two carbs for 30 minutes the 
flipped it and then the other two. Let soak and repeated it. Came out like 
new. I also have a Valkyrie so I know carbs. It has six. I've done all my 
work. 


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>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:09 PM Graham Rogers > > wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:07 PM Jenya Spektor >> > wrote:
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 have time to tinker with them.

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>> like the sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even 
>> notice 
>> that it was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had 
>> a 
>> nice cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-14 Thread Jenya Spektor
Yes I am  - even thought I am slowing down a bit this year, but have to get
ready for a trail marathon in May.


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> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:09 PM Graham Rogers 
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>> Just wondering, our son works in NY
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:07 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
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>>> I design web/desktop applications for living... so a lot of strategic
>>> and creative work. That’s why I enjoy my old metal ‘toys’ so much when I
>>> have time to tinker with them.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Jenya, where do you work?
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jenya Spektor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I in NYC and right now it's 25 degrees - so an Irish coffee would be
 the way to go.
 And thanks for your support - that is something that keeps me going at
 this point.
 Jenya

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> that it was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-11 Thread Graham Rogers
Are you a runner?

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:09 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

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> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:07 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
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>> I design web/desktop applications for living... so a lot of strategic and
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jenya, where do you work?
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I in NYC and right now it's 25 degrees - so an Irish coffee would be the
>>> way to go.
>>> And thanks for your support - that is something that keeps me going at
>>> this point.
>>> Jenya
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM Graham Rogers <
>>> grahamjoanrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 After finally getting those carbs back on the bike there’s nothing like
 the sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even notice that
 it was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a nice
 cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-11 Thread Graham Rogers
Just wondering, our son works in NY

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:07 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> I design web/desktop applications for living... so a lot of strategic and
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> On Jan 11, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
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> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
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>> I in NYC and right now it's 25 degrees - so an Irish coffee would be the
>> way to go.
>> And thanks for your support - that is something that keeps me going at
>> this point.
>> Jenya
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> After finally getting those carbs back on the bike there’s nothing like
>>> the sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even notice that
>>> it was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a nice
>>> cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:20 AM Tommy Hill  wrote:
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-11 Thread Jenya Spektor
I design web/desktop applications for living... so a lot of strategic and 
creative work. That’s why I enjoy my old metal ‘toys’ so much when I have time 
to tinker with them.

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> On Jan 11, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> 
> Jenya, where do you work?
> 
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> I in NYC and right now it's 25 degrees - so an Irish coffee would be the way 
>> to go.
>> And thanks for your support - that is something that keeps me going at this 
>> point.
>> Jenya
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM Graham Rogers  
>>> wrote:
>>> After finally getting those carbs back on the bike there’s nothing like the 
>>> sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even notice that it 
>>> was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a nice 
>>> cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.
>>> 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-11 Thread Graham Rogers
Jenya, where do you work?

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> I in NYC and right now it's 25 degrees - so an Irish coffee would be the
> way to go.
> And thanks for your support - that is something that keeps me going at
> this point.
> Jenya
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> After finally getting those carbs back on the bike there’s nothing like
>> the sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even notice that
>> it was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a nice
>> cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:20 AM Tommy Hill  wrote:
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-11 Thread Jenya Spektor
I in NYC and right now it's 25 degrees - so an Irish coffee would be the
way to go.
And thanks for your support - that is something that keeps me going at this
point.
Jenya

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 8:29 AM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> After finally getting those carbs back on the bike there’s nothing like
> the sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even notice that
> it was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a nice
> cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-11 Thread Graham Rogers
After finally getting those carbs back on the bike there’s nothing like the
sound of a 700S idling perfectly at 1100 rpms. Didn’t even notice that it
was 35 degrees in the garage. Went back inside the house and had a nice
cool Luigi’s Italian ice, mango flavor.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Graham Rogers
I suppose you would use the lemon ones!

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> Jenna, please ignore any advice from Graham.
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> Anyone who thinks mango is the better cup, er I mean flavor, is NOT to be
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Tommy Hill
Jenna, please ignore any advice from Graham.

Anyone who thinks mango is the better cup, er I mean flavor, is NOT to be 
trusted...

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread 'Pike' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
https://m.autozone.com/fuel-and-engine-cleaners-additives/carburetor-cleaner/berryman-carburetor-cleaner/139313_0_0

> On Jan 10, 2019, at 5:10 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> 
> Jenya, since my last post here I removed the carbs on a 700S Nighthawk. The 
> same one I already removed the carbs and cleaned. Number 3 cylinder wouldn’t 
> fire so I removed the carbs again, blew out the slow speed jet with 
> compressed air and reinstalled the carbs. The bike runs fine now. Point is I 
> was able to remove the carbs, clean the one carb jets, check the float level 
> in that carb, reinstall the carbs and synchronize them, all in about an hour 
> and a half. 
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:24 PM Graham Rogers  
>> wrote:
>> Of course this all assumes you have removed the tank and seat.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:23 PM Graham Rogers  
>>> wrote:
>>> Its not hard to do, you just have to persist. I forgot to mention, before 
>>> touching the carbs you have to move the airbox back as far as possible. 
>>> That means removing the two 10mm bolts holding the air breather cover in 
>>> place. Maybe also removing the bolts holding the battery cover on since the 
>>> bottom one anchors the battery box to the frame. I also push the plastic 
>>> inner rear fender back against the rear tire. There is a snap in place part 
>>> of that fender you can squeeze off the tube frame and so letting the inner 
>>> fender go back. Remember this is the inner fender, not the main rear 
>>> fender. I also undo the two bolts holding the regulator in place as this 
>>> prevents the air box from moving back. The regulator is attached to the 
>>> airbox. I just undo the bolts and let the regulator and bolts hang there.
>>> Then I go to work removing the cables, undoing the boot bolts and take to 
>>> the carbs with a 1x2 to lever them out of the boots.
>>> 
 On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:01 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
 Graham, doesn’t sound very reassuring but I have to do it all the same. 
 Will post if any questions arise. Thanks again.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Graham Rogers  
> wrote:
> 
> Here’s what I do Jenya. Yours is a CB650SC Nighthawk right or a 700S, 
> same process. Once you get the carbs out and the throttle cables and 
> choke cable detached, go out and celebrate. That and reinstalling is the 
> hardest part. I then remove the float bowls, fill them with carb cleaner 
> and let them sit in Luigi’s Italian ice cups (mango flavor). Then I 
> remove the jets,  ( the main and low speed jets). I drop them into 
> another small container of carb cleaner and let them sit. Then I spray 
> out the carb body with carb cleaner spray. Then I turn the carbs upside 
> down (actually - the right way up) and remove the diaphragm covers, 
> remove the diaphragm slides, springs and clean them all, checking for 
> holes or tears in the diaphragms. Again, I spray out the carb body and 
> use compressed air through all the passages. Sometimes, when I remember, 
> I remove and clean the mixture screws. If the carbs are really dirty and 
> the jets gummed up I’ll let them soak overnight. Next day, spray carb 
> cleaner through the jets and reassemble.
> Before reinstalling the carbs, check the carb boot bolts to make sure 
> they are tight. Reinstalling the carbs, getting the cables back in place 
> may take longer than cleaning the carbs themselves. 
> This morning I did all that on a Nighthawk 700S. Got everything back 
> together and it’s only running on 3 out of 4 cylinders. I may have to 
> start over, Graham
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Jenya Spektor  
>> wrote:
>> Hi all - coming back to this thread. So I am about the get the carbs out 
>> and start the break down process.
>> Few helpful hints for me if you please:
>> 1. What is the best cleaner for the carb parts that works well and is 
>> safe for the 36 yo carbs.
>> 2. Once I clean and put it all together, is there a way or a kind of 
>> liquid that I can fill the carbs with to check for leaks?
>> Thank you in advance, Jenya
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM EGrider  wrote:
>>> I've cleaned carbs a lot of times but only broken the rack once to 
>>> replace the o-rings in the fuel tubes. I used the o-rings from the 
>>> millimeter set of nitrile o-rings at Harbor Freight. The tiniest ones 
>>> also work well on the mixture screws in the carbs.  I fixed the carbs 
>>> and had 100 o-rings left for $5 or so. Such a deal. 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Graham Rogers
Jenya, since my last post here I removed the carbs on a 700S Nighthawk. The
same one I already removed the carbs and cleaned. Number 3 cylinder
wouldn’t fire so I removed the carbs again, blew out the slow speed jet
with compressed air and reinstalled the carbs. The bike runs fine now.
Point is I was able to remove the carbs, clean the one carb jets, check the
float level in that carb, reinstall the carbs and synchronize them, all in
about an hour and a half.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:24 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Of course this all assumes you have removed the tank and seat.
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:23 PM Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
>> Its not hard to do, you just have to persist. I forgot to mention, before
>> touching the carbs you have to move the airbox back as far as possible.
>> That means removing the two 10mm bolts holding the air breather cover in
>> place. Maybe also removing the bolts holding the battery cover on since the
>> bottom one anchors the battery box to the frame. I also push the plastic
>> inner rear fender back against the rear tire. There is a snap in place part
>> of that fender you can squeeze off the tube frame and so letting the inner
>> fender go back. Remember this is the inner fender, not the main rear
>> fender. I also undo the two bolts holding the regulator in place as this
>> prevents the air box from moving back. The regulator is attached to the
>> airbox. I just undo the bolts and let the regulator and bolts hang there.
>> Then I go to work removing the cables, undoing the boot bolts and take to
>> the carbs with a 1x2 to lever them out of the boots.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:01 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Graham, doesn’t sound very reassuring but I have to do it all the same.
>>> Will post if any questions arise. Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Graham Rogers 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Here’s what I do Jenya. Yours is a CB650SC Nighthawk right or a 700S,
>>> same process. Once you get the carbs out and the throttle cables and choke
>>> cable detached, go out and celebrate. That and reinstalling is the hardest
>>> part. I then remove the float bowls, fill them with carb cleaner and let
>>> them sit in Luigi’s Italian ice cups (mango flavor). Then I remove the
>>> jets,  ( the main and low speed jets). I drop them into another small
>>> container of carb cleaner and let them sit. Then I spray out the carb body
>>> with carb cleaner spray. Then I turn the carbs upside down (actually - the
>>> right way up) and remove the diaphragm covers, remove the diaphragm slides,
>>> springs and clean them all, checking for holes or tears in the diaphragms.
>>> Again, I spray out the carb body and use compressed air through all the
>>> passages. Sometimes, when I remember, I remove and clean the mixture
>>> screws. If the carbs are really dirty and the jets gummed up I’ll let them
>>> soak overnight. Next day, spray carb cleaner through the jets and
>>> reassemble.
>>> Before reinstalling the carbs, check the carb boot bolts to make sure
>>> they are tight. Reinstalling the carbs, getting the cables back in place
>>> may take longer than cleaning the carbs themselves.
>>> This morning I did all that on a Nighthawk 700S. Got everything back
>>> together and it’s only running on 3 out of 4 cylinders. I may have to start
>>> over, Graham
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Jenya Spektor 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all - coming back to this thread. So I am about the get the carbs
 out and start the break down process.
 Few helpful hints for me if you please:
 1. What is the best cleaner for the carb parts that works well and is
 safe for the 36 yo carbs.
 2. Once I clean and put it all together, is there a way or a kind of
 liquid that I can fill the carbs with to check for leaks?
 Thank you in advance, Jenya

 On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM EGrider  wrote:

> I've cleaned carbs a lot of times but only broken the rack once to
> replace the o-rings in the fuel tubes. I used the o-rings from the
> millimeter set of nitrile o-rings at Harbor Freight. The tiniest ones also
> work well on the mixture screws in the carbs.  I fixed the carbs and had
> 100 o-rings left for $5 or so. Such a deal.
>
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Graham Rogers
Of course this all assumes you have removed the tank and seat.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:23 PM Graham Rogers 
wrote:

> Its not hard to do, you just have to persist. I forgot to mention, before
> touching the carbs you have to move the airbox back as far as possible.
> That means removing the two 10mm bolts holding the air breather cover in
> place. Maybe also removing the bolts holding the battery cover on since the
> bottom one anchors the battery box to the frame. I also push the plastic
> inner rear fender back against the rear tire. There is a snap in place part
> of that fender you can squeeze off the tube frame and so letting the inner
> fender go back. Remember this is the inner fender, not the main rear
> fender. I also undo the two bolts holding the regulator in place as this
> prevents the air box from moving back. The regulator is attached to the
> airbox. I just undo the bolts and let the regulator and bolts hang there.
> Then I go to work removing the cables, undoing the boot bolts and take to
> the carbs with a 1x2 to lever them out of the boots.
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:01 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Graham, doesn’t sound very reassuring but I have to do it all the same.
>> Will post if any questions arise. Thanks again.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Graham Rogers 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Here’s what I do Jenya. Yours is a CB650SC Nighthawk right or a 700S,
>> same process. Once you get the carbs out and the throttle cables and choke
>> cable detached, go out and celebrate. That and reinstalling is the hardest
>> part. I then remove the float bowls, fill them with carb cleaner and let
>> them sit in Luigi’s Italian ice cups (mango flavor). Then I remove the
>> jets,  ( the main and low speed jets). I drop them into another small
>> container of carb cleaner and let them sit. Then I spray out the carb body
>> with carb cleaner spray. Then I turn the carbs upside down (actually - the
>> right way up) and remove the diaphragm covers, remove the diaphragm slides,
>> springs and clean them all, checking for holes or tears in the diaphragms.
>> Again, I spray out the carb body and use compressed air through all the
>> passages. Sometimes, when I remember, I remove and clean the mixture
>> screws. If the carbs are really dirty and the jets gummed up I’ll let them
>> soak overnight. Next day, spray carb cleaner through the jets and
>> reassemble.
>> Before reinstalling the carbs, check the carb boot bolts to make sure
>> they are tight. Reinstalling the carbs, getting the cables back in place
>> may take longer than cleaning the carbs themselves.
>> This morning I did all that on a Nighthawk 700S. Got everything back
>> together and it’s only running on 3 out of 4 cylinders. I may have to start
>> over, Graham
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Jenya Spektor 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all - coming back to this thread. So I am about the get the carbs out
>>> and start the break down process.
>>> Few helpful hints for me if you please:
>>> 1. What is the best cleaner for the carb parts that works well and is
>>> safe for the 36 yo carbs.
>>> 2. Once I clean and put it all together, is there a way or a kind of
>>> liquid that I can fill the carbs with to check for leaks?
>>> Thank you in advance, Jenya
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM EGrider  wrote:
>>>
 I've cleaned carbs a lot of times but only broken the rack once to
 replace the o-rings in the fuel tubes. I used the o-rings from the
 millimeter set of nitrile o-rings at Harbor Freight. The tiniest ones also
 work well on the mixture screws in the carbs.  I fixed the carbs and had
 100 o-rings left for $5 or so. Such a deal.

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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Graham Rogers
Its not hard to do, you just have to persist. I forgot to mention, before
touching the carbs you have to move the airbox back as far as possible.
That means removing the two 10mm bolts holding the air breather cover in
place. Maybe also removing the bolts holding the battery cover on since the
bottom one anchors the battery box to the frame. I also push the plastic
inner rear fender back against the rear tire. There is a snap in place part
of that fender you can squeeze off the tube frame and so letting the inner
fender go back. Remember this is the inner fender, not the main rear
fender. I also undo the two bolts holding the regulator in place as this
prevents the air box from moving back. The regulator is attached to the
airbox. I just undo the bolts and let the regulator and bolts hang there.
Then I go to work removing the cables, undoing the boot bolts and take to
the carbs with a 1x2 to lever them out of the boots.

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 2:01 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Graham, doesn’t sound very reassuring but I have to do it all the same.
> Will post if any questions arise. Thanks again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 10, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Graham Rogers 
> wrote:
>
> Here’s what I do Jenya. Yours is a CB650SC Nighthawk right or a 700S, same
> process. Once you get the carbs out and the throttle cables and choke cable
> detached, go out and celebrate. That and reinstalling is the hardest part.
> I then remove the float bowls, fill them with carb cleaner and let them sit
> in Luigi’s Italian ice cups (mango flavor). Then I remove the jets,  ( the
> main and low speed jets). I drop them into another small container of carb
> cleaner and let them sit. Then I spray out the carb body with carb cleaner
> spray. Then I turn the carbs upside down (actually - the right way up) and
> remove the diaphragm covers, remove the diaphragm slides, springs and clean
> them all, checking for holes or tears in the diaphragms. Again, I spray out
> the carb body and use compressed air through all the passages. Sometimes,
> when I remember, I remove and clean the mixture screws. If the carbs are
> really dirty and the jets gummed up I’ll let them soak overnight. Next day,
> spray carb cleaner through the jets and reassemble.
> Before reinstalling the carbs, check the carb boot bolts to make sure they
> are tight. Reinstalling the carbs, getting the cables back in place may
> take longer than cleaning the carbs themselves.
> This morning I did all that on a Nighthawk 700S. Got everything back
> together and it’s only running on 3 out of 4 cylinders. I may have to start
> over, Graham
>
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Jenya Spektor 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all - coming back to this thread. So I am about the get the carbs out
>> and start the break down process.
>> Few helpful hints for me if you please:
>> 1. What is the best cleaner for the carb parts that works well and is
>> safe for the 36 yo carbs.
>> 2. Once I clean and put it all together, is there a way or a kind of
>> liquid that I can fill the carbs with to check for leaks?
>> Thank you in advance, Jenya
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM EGrider  wrote:
>>
>>> I've cleaned carbs a lot of times but only broken the rack once to
>>> replace the o-rings in the fuel tubes. I used the o-rings from the
>>> millimeter set of nitrile o-rings at Harbor Freight. The tiniest ones also
>>> work well on the mixture screws in the carbs.  I fixed the carbs and had
>>> 100 o-rings left for $5 or so. Such a deal.
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Jenya Spektor
Graham, doesn’t sound very reassuring but I have to do it all the same. Will 
post if any questions arise. Thanks again.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 10, 2019, at 1:58 PM, Graham Rogers  wrote:
> 
> Here’s what I do Jenya. Yours is a CB650SC Nighthawk right or a 700S, same 
> process. Once you get the carbs out and the throttle cables and choke cable 
> detached, go out and celebrate. That and reinstalling is the hardest part. I 
> then remove the float bowls, fill them with carb cleaner and let them sit in 
> Luigi’s Italian ice cups (mango flavor). Then I remove the jets,  ( the main 
> and low speed jets). I drop them into another small container of carb cleaner 
> and let them sit. Then I spray out the carb body with carb cleaner spray. 
> Then I turn the carbs upside down (actually - the right way up) and remove 
> the diaphragm covers, remove the diaphragm slides, springs and clean them 
> all, checking for holes or tears in the diaphragms. Again, I spray out the 
> carb body and use compressed air through all the passages. Sometimes, when I 
> remember, I remove and clean the mixture screws. If the carbs are really 
> dirty and the jets gummed up I’ll let them soak overnight. Next day, spray 
> carb cleaner through the jets and reassemble.
> Before reinstalling the carbs, check the carb boot bolts to make sure they 
> are tight. Reinstalling the carbs, getting the cables back in place may take 
> longer than cleaning the carbs themselves. 
> This morning I did all that on a Nighthawk 700S. Got everything back together 
> and it’s only running on 3 out of 4 cylinders. I may have to start over, 
> Graham
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:
>> Hi all - coming back to this thread. So I am about the get the carbs out and 
>> start the break down process.
>> Few helpful hints for me if you please:
>> 1. What is the best cleaner for the carb parts that works well and is safe 
>> for the 36 yo carbs.
>> 2. Once I clean and put it all together, is there a way or a kind of liquid 
>> that I can fill the carbs with to check for leaks?
>> Thank you in advance, Jenya
>> 
>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM EGrider  wrote:
>>> I've cleaned carbs a lot of times but only broken the rack once to replace 
>>> the o-rings in the fuel tubes. I used the o-rings from the millimeter set 
>>> of nitrile o-rings at Harbor Freight. The tiniest ones also work well on 
>>> the mixture screws in the carbs.  I fixed the carbs and had 100 o-rings 
>>> left for $5 or so. Such a deal. 
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Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Carbs started leaking out of the blue.

2019-01-10 Thread Graham Rogers
Here’s what I do Jenya. Yours is a CB650SC Nighthawk right or a 700S, same
process. Once you get the carbs out and the throttle cables and choke cable
detached, go out and celebrate. That and reinstalling is the hardest part.
I then remove the float bowls, fill them with carb cleaner and let them sit
in Luigi’s Italian ice cups (mango flavor). Then I remove the jets,  ( the
main and low speed jets). I drop them into another small container of carb
cleaner and let them sit. Then I spray out the carb body with carb cleaner
spray. Then I turn the carbs upside down (actually - the right way up) and
remove the diaphragm covers, remove the diaphragm slides, springs and clean
them all, checking for holes or tears in the diaphragms. Again, I spray out
the carb body and use compressed air through all the passages. Sometimes,
when I remember, I remove and clean the mixture screws. If the carbs are
really dirty and the jets gummed up I’ll let them soak overnight. Next day,
spray carb cleaner through the jets and reassemble.
Before reinstalling the carbs, check the carb boot bolts to make sure they
are tight. Reinstalling the carbs, getting the cables back in place may
take longer than cleaning the carbs themselves.
This morning I did all that on a Nighthawk 700S. Got everything back
together and it’s only running on 3 out of 4 cylinders. I may have to start
over, Graham

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 1:30 PM Jenya Spektor  wrote:

> Hi all - coming back to this thread. So I am about the get the carbs out
> and start the break down process.
> Few helpful hints for me if you please:
> 1. What is the best cleaner for the carb parts that works well and is safe
> for the 36 yo carbs.
> 2. Once I clean and put it all together, is there a way or a kind of
> liquid that I can fill the carbs with to check for leaks?
> Thank you in advance, Jenya
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 7:14 PM EGrider  wrote:
>
>> I've cleaned carbs a lot of times but only broken the rack once to
>> replace the o-rings in the fuel tubes. I used the o-rings from the
>> millimeter set of nitrile o-rings at Harbor Freight. The tiniest ones also
>> work well on the mixture screws in the carbs.  I fixed the carbs and had
>> 100 o-rings left for $5 or so. Such a deal.
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