RE: [NMusers] Issues with VPC

2014-10-06 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Xinting, I think you should try to change the nonmem control stream name for the dependent variable, from DV=LNDV (which is what I assume you have right now on $INPUT?) to just read DV. The name for the DV column in the datafile can remain LNDV, so this is just a matter of changing on

RE: [NMusers] backward integration from t-a to t

2014-01-15 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Pavel, I agree with you it is not uncommon to have AUC drive efficacy or safety endpoints. However, you seem to have the impression this is commonly done using cumulative AUC and I can assure you that is rarely the case. I have only seen that for safety endpoints where it has been justified

RE: [NMusers] Getting rid of correlation issues between CL and volume parameters

2013-11-26 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Nele, I believe Matt's point was more to the situation where any remaining correlation between CL and V random components can not be accounted for by covariates, so that both eta on F and block2 on CL and V is used? If eta on F and covariates takes care of the correlation between CL and V:

RE: [NMusers] Getting rid of correlation issues between CL and volume parameters

2013-11-26 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
to the thread before sending a reply! Jakob -Original Message- From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 26 November 2013 10:46 To: Mueller-Plock, Nele; Leonid Gibiansky; 'nmusers' Cc: Ribbing, Jakob Subject: RE: [NMusers] Getting rid of correlation issues between CL and volume parameters Hi Nele, I

RE: [NMusers] 2 cmax after a single SC dose

2013-11-04 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Pavel, Since you say that IPRED shows two Cmax this could not be residual error. Like Leonid I would believe this is rather an error in setup (control stream or dataset) rather than an error with nonmem. However, since you are using an ADVAN13 model, I suppose if the dose is split into

RE: [NMusers] OMEGA - CORR MATRIX FOR RANDOM EFFECTS - ETAS

2013-09-17 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Jules, You are correct in pointing out where the problem lies. However, the covariance matrix is not fine since it is at the boundary just as much as the translation into correlation. Correlation is calculated by this equation: Cor(eta1,eta2)=OM1,2 /(sqrt(OM1,1)*sqrt(OM2,2)) Where: OM1,1 and

[NMusers] Unable to post to nmusers

2013-08-16 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear all, Since Monday I have made three attempts to post a reply on the thread question in Box-Cox Transformations in K-PD model, initiated by Kehua. None of these attempts have been successful, at the same time I have noticed that other topics have successfully reached out via the

RE: [NMusers] question in Box-Cox Transformations in K-PD model

2013-08-16 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 12 August 2013 23:45 To: 'kehua wu'; nmusers Cc: Ribbing, Jakob Subject: RE: [NMusers] Fwd: question in Box-Cox Transformations in K-PD model Hi Kehua, When you say that you did not get the estimate of TH2 in the output file, but you got the initial estimate. Did you

RE: [NMusers] Unable to post to nmusers

2013-08-16 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
, Jakob; nmusers@globomaxnm.com; robert.ba...@iconplc.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] Unable to post to nmusers Have a look on this old post... From: owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com [mailto:owner-nmus...@globomaxnm.com] On Behalf Of Ribbing, Jakob Sent: den 16 augusti 2013 14:37 To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com

RE: [NMusers] Right skewness in bootstrap distribution

2013-04-23 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Felipe, The distribution obtained from the (nonparametric) bootstrap represents uncertainty in the population parameters, and the histogram for V1 should not be interpreted as a distribution of individual parameter values. There are issues with relying on the nonparametric distribution

[NMusers] RE: Simulation settgin in the precence of Shrinkage in PK when doing PK-PD analysis

2013-02-18 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Resending, since my posting from this morning (below) has not yet appeared on nmusers. Apologies for any duplicate postings! From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 18 February 2013 09:59 To: Kågedal, Matts; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Cc: Ribbing, Jakob Subject: RE: Simulation settgin in the precence

RE: [NMusers] question about incorporting genotyping data in disease progression model

2012-08-29 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Kehua, If I understand you correctly you screened thousands of genotypes to find those that appeared to be the (60 most) promising predictors? Were the asthma patients in your nonmem analysis part of the material you used for GWAS screen, or is the nonmem analysis based on external data from

Re: [NMusers] Priors and covariate model building

2012-06-23 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Palang and Martin, For the published analysis; do you have any information on the covariates that you would like to investigate? (mean and sd or range). Another factor weighting in the approach you take may be what functional form(s) you consider for continuous covariates (e.g. Linear vs.

RE: [NMusers] VPC results using PsN and Xpose

2012-05-10 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
All, I think Leonid and Neil have pointed out two plausible explanations, I just wanted to highlight that these are two separate issues: * If you have an additive component in your error model a graph on log scale would appear to widen at the end. This is fine. In this particular case

RE: [NMusers] Confidence intervals of PsN bootstrap output

2011-07-11 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
All, This first part is more to clarify and I do not believe this is in disagreement with what has been said before. The last paragraph is a question. The two examples I mentioned regarding boundary conditions are regarding variance parameters. The second of these, however, is with regards to a

RE: [NMusers] Confidence intervals of PsN bootstrap output

2011-07-11 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Resending and apologizing for any duplicate messages! -Original Message- From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 11 July 2011 10:13 To: nmusers Subject: RE: [NMusers] Confidence intervals of PsN bootstrap output All, This first part is more to clarify and I do not believe this is in disagreement

RE: [NMusers] Confidence intervals of PsN bootstrap output

2011-07-09 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
[mailto:kajsa.harl...@farmbio.uu.se] Sent: 23 June 2011 11:52 To: General Discussion about PsN. Subject: Re: [Psn-general] bootstrap problem Thank you for the error report. This will be fixed in the next release. Best regards, Kajsa -Original Message- From: Ribbing, Jakob

RE: [NMusers] Confidence intervals of PsN bootstrap output

2011-07-09 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear all, Previous attempts to send this e-mail appear to have been unsuccessful. I am resending with further reduction in text and apologize in case of any duplicate or triplicate postings. Jakob From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 08 July 2011 16:31

RE: [NMusers] Confidence intervals of PsN bootstrap output

2011-07-08 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
It seems my previous attempt to post this was unsuccessful (either because of the graphs included or because 70 kb was too much?) I am resending without graphs and apologize in case of any duplicate postings! From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 08 July 2011 16:31

RE: [NMusers] About DoLoop in NONMEM

2011-03-25 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Liu, In nonmem you can not define differential equations through a loop; each has to be explicitly written out. However, I notice that you have the same rate of transit among all of your (transit) compartments. Therefore, an analytical solution would be the most efficient way of solving

RE: [NMusers] How to generate a random number with $EST

2011-03-14 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear all, A single control stream with $SIM followed by $EST could possibly do the trick (similar to what Luann suggests below, using two control streams). However, before we air additional suggestions on how we may or may not achieve random-number generation during estimation; maybe it is

RE: [NMusers] distribution assumption of Eta in NONMEM

2010-06-01 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear all, Dropping in a little late in the game all I can say is this: Shame on all you great minds for reinventing your own wisdom :) Most of the content in the current thread has already been discussed in an earlier thread:

RE: [NMusers] How to think about the different determination methods?

2010-02-09 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Ye hong bo, If I understand you correctly no single sample has been assayed with multiple assay methods? It may be that the assay method only makes a small contribution to the overall residual, but if you have enough information on the three SIGMAs you may keep it as three separate

RE: [NMusers] lab values

2010-01-13 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dirk, I think the approach is influenced by what this lab value represents. If it is a biomarker/endpoint that is influenced by drug treatment then the best approach is to include this in your PK-PD model as a dependent variable. If you treat this as a traditional covariate it should not be

RE: [NMusers] BSV and BOV interaction

2009-12-21 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Andreas, The code snippet you picked out is not overparameterized, since the assumption is made that the variance of eta 5 and 6 are the same: $OMEGA BLOCK(1) 0.05 $OMEGA BLOCK(1) SAME This first equation that you suggest is this: IOV2=0 IF (DESC.EQ.2) IOV2=1 ETCL = ETA(1)+IOV2*ETA(5)

RE: [NMusers] Calculating shrinkage when some etas are zero

2009-08-21 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Pyry, Yes, when calculating shrinkage or looking at eta-diagnostic plots it is often better to exclude etas from subjects that has no information on that parameter at all. For a PK model we would not include subjects that were only administered placebo (if PK is exogenous compound). In

RE: [NMusers] Calculating shrinkage when some etas are zero

2009-08-21 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
would more trust diagnostics after exclusion. Jakob From: Eleveld, DJ [mailto:d.j.elev...@anest.umcg.nl] Sent: 21 August 2009 13:57 To: Ribbing, Jakob; Pyry Välitalo; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Subject: RE: [NMusers] Calculating shrinkage when some etas are zero

RE: [NMusers] Omega ratio

2009-07-15 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Khaled, You could for example report this as Including covariate X in the model, the estimate of random (unexplained) between-subject variability in parameter Y reduced from 41.8 %CV to 40.5 %CV. Reporting % explained variability may lead to confusion on if this is in percent or

RE: [NMusers] estimating Ka from dataset combining rich sample study and sparse sampling study

2009-06-17 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Ethan, If OMEGA(?) for KA is drastically reduced when including the sparse data, then something is wrong with your model and in this case it is not the estimation method or assumption on distribution of individual parameter). Eta-shrinkage would not drastically reduce the estimate of OMEGA,

RE: [NMusers] estimating Ka from dataset combining rich sample study and sparse sampling study

2009-06-17 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
...@yahoo.com] Sent: 17 June 2009 22:05 To: Ribbing, Jakob; Jurgen Bulitta; nmusers@globomaxnm.com Cc: Roger Jelliffe; Neely, Michael Subject: Re: [NMusers] estimating Ka from dataset combining rich sample study and sparse sampling study Hi Jakob, sparse data came from MD study. and IIV on CL

RE: [NMusers] 20 variable limit in $INPUT

2009-03-16 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Andreas, PsN has functionality for automatically applying the CONT-data-item approach mentioned by Mark and Nick. To run your model in nonmem with more than 20 input variables, you would simply type: execute --wrap_data run1.mod In a subdirectory PsN will create a new dataset and model file

RE: [NMusers] simulation question

2009-02-06 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Ethan, Sebastian is right that a non-parametric bootstrap may be suitable for determining the uncertainty in the population parameters. However, I got the impression that you wanted to investigate possible study designs on how informative they are for a future model-based analysis? If you

RE: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model

2009-01-14 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Leonid, As I understand the linear model you suggested it can be simplified* to this structure: THETA(1)*((WT/70)^(3/4)+THETA(2)*CRCL) I call this additive, because the two covariates affect TVCL in an absolute sense, without interaction. My main message was that I find this model appealing,

RE: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model

2009-01-12 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Pete, Is the drug cleared almost completely thru renal elimination? Otherwise, maybe a slope intercept model for CL as a function of CRCL? TVCL=THETA(X)*(WT/70)**0.75+THETA(Y)*CRCL The intercept is nonrenal CL according to the allometric model and the slope according to CRCL. This

RE: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model

2009-01-12 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Leonid, I usually prefer multiplicative parameterisation as well, since it is easier to set boundaries (which is not necessary for power models, but for multiplicative-linear models). However, boundaries on the additive covariate models can still be set indirectly, using EXIT statements (not as

RE: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model

2009-01-12 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Correction, I meant WT 50 and 75 in the example below: 75^0.75/(50^0.75)=1.36 -Original Message- From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 13 January 2009 00:50 To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com; 'Leonid Gibiansky'; Bonate, Peter Subject: RE: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model Leonid, I usually prefer

RE: [NMusers] CrcL or Cr in pediatric model

2009-01-12 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
. Annu Rev Pharmacol Toxicol 48: 303-32. Ribbing, Jakob wrote: Correction, I meant WT 50 and 75 in the example below: 75^0.75/(50^0.75)=1.36 -Original Message- From: Ribbing, Jakob Sent: 13 January 2009 00:50 To: nmusers@globomaxnm.com; 'Leonid Gibiansky'; Bonate, Peter

RE: [NMusers] Very small P-Value for ETABAR

2008-11-14 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
this and can you explain how it arises? In the worst case of shrinkage then bias is impossible because all ETAs must be zero. So why does it occur with non-zero shrinkage? Nick Ribbing, Jakob wrote: Dear all, First of all, I am not sure that there is any assumption of etas having a normal

RE: [NMusers] Subpopulation

2008-08-12 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Huali, The best is to derive one model for all data. If you are pressed with time it may be sufficient to describe the data in the dose range which is clinically relevant (if known). Possibly, in this dose range there is no nonlinerarity. However, splitting the subjects based on the

RE: [NMusers] adding error term to covariate

2008-07-29 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Dear Li, You are right in thinking that your baseline better not be treated as an ordinary covariate (where we pretend that the covariate values are measured without error). Unless you want to be very restrictive in how to use the model (e.g. change from baseline in a study with similar design

RE: [NMusers] NMVI and SEs assessment

2008-04-23 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi Bernad, Regarding differences between nm5 and 6, you can try to run both models with different initial estimates, to see if the two minima are stable within a nonmem version. Which minima yield the lowest OFV? Do you have information in your data to describe a two-compartment model? What is

[NMusers] IIV on %CV-Scale - Standard Error (SE)

2008-02-15 Thread Ribbing, Jakob
Hi all, I think that Paul stumbled on a rather important issue. The SE of the residual error may not be of primary interest, but the same as discussed under this thread also applies to the standard error of omega. (I changed the name of the subject since this thread now is about omega) I