[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Francis Wood
Hello Richard, Many NSP bags can be slightly rectangular in aspect and the 'corner' near the blowpipe has the potential to annoy some players. If you find that experimentation in managing the bag differently does not help, a good solution would be to order a bag with the profile of that edge

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Anthony Robb
What a fascinating thread! The problem I see with an inverted bag is getting the chanter stock airtight in what amounts to a ridgy hole. It's bad enough with a nice soft bag with the seam on the outside and the usual leather wedges. I hate to admit it but the slightly deeper,

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Francis Wood
On 27 Jan 2010, at 08:46, Anthony Robb wrote: The problem I see with an inverted bag is getting the chanter stock airtight in what amounts to a ridgy hole. Hi Anthony, Yes, that's right. However, the seal is made effective by gouging a very substantial groove in the stock, into which the

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Anthony Robb
Thanks Francis - lovely stuff - it brightened a very grey morning!! Anthony --- On Wed, 27/1/10, Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: Francis Wood oatenp...@googlemail.com Subject: [NSP] Re: bag shape To: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com Cc: Nsplist

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Richard York
Thanks greatly to one and all for these - great food for thought here. I'm interested that everyone's addressed the matter of how to make the existing bag shape comfortable, but no-one has offered experience of the tear-drop shape - are they very rare, or just deeply heretical? Meanwhile I

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread tim rolls BT
.and isn't the language fascinating in its own right. To blether on in my experience is to talk at length/nonsense, such as you might expect from a wind-bag I'd presumed it came from the same root as bladder, but Chambers just goes back to Old Norse blathra - talk foolishly, which is

[NSP] blowpipe

2010-01-27 Thread tim rolls BT
I think bellows blowpipe length is an are well worth looking at. In three years playing I haven't actually owned a set of pipes (although I am now close to a purchase) but have relied on the kindness of others who have lent me sets. Because they were borrowed I felt unable to adjust the pipes

[NSP] Re: blowpipe

2010-01-27 Thread Francis Wood
On 27 Jan 2010, at 10:55, tim rolls BT wrote: Although I have observed the necessary shape for a gentleman piper, and I am working towards it, I would still not yet say that I require a massively long blowpipe. Rather sad that I find myself quoting my earlier mail (Power of Positive

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Francis Wood
On 27 Jan 2010, at 11:04, Julia Say wrote: I wonder when and why this older and better method was discontinued. I don't know for definite, but I wonder if it has to do with professional saddlers, and the introduction of machinery. That's a very good observation. Are there any later

[NSP] Bag position

2010-01-27 Thread Anthony Robb
Barry wrote: When playing, my bag rests in the crook of my elbow and 2/3 to 3/4 of my forearm is not in contact with the bag. I do agree that the forearm shouldn't be used as the main pressure source on the bag. Get it well oxtered and the upper arm will apply most of the

[NSP] Pipes on ebay

2010-01-27 Thread Julia Say
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=330397100950 Someone's about to be had - big style. With 2 days to go, this could double, things often do on ebay. I haven't seen the set, nor have I any connection with seller or potential buyers (AFAIK) However just from the photos, the

[NSP] Re: Pipes on ebay

2010-01-27 Thread Francis Wood
It's a version of the Dunn set, drawn as Plate 6 in Cox Bryan 1975. Looks like a very good amateur attempt to me, but the seller is honest enough to say: [they] will need some work setting them up so please do not bid if you can not do this work It would be a reasonable project to get

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Dave S
Hi Richard, Other slight annoyances occuring when messing with bags/neck is resonance or a change in the resistance to airflow. Some bag/neck shapes give rise to top A and top B sounding flat at which point the unsuspecting will start chopping or scraping reeds - BEWARE Dave Singleton

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Dave Shaw
Hi all I've just returned from teaching beginner smallpipes and Irish pipes at Glasgows Celtic connections festival. Whilst I am a big fan of the Tear drop bag for my own pipes, all my teaching pipes are on Dagg style sausage bags. For whatever reason these are easier to casually fit to more

[NSP] Re: Pipes on ebay

2010-01-27 Thread Julia Say
On 27 Jan 2010, Francis Wood wrote: It would be a reasonable project to get going, though not if the price rises much. I totally agree. As it stands, it's a project for a wannabe fettler to practise on. Having watched ebay things a lot over the past year, though, I was concerned that

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Dave Shaw
Hi again Whilst pondering if the old style stitching could be related to the production of wineskins, and tanning skins as a stitched up bag I found the following vid, how to make a wineskin. www.videojug.com/film/how-to-make-a-wineskin It shows it being stitched apparently wet and turned

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Marianne Hall
Just out of interest, I have Reid D chanter, full working order, and a W.A. Cocks, Ryton, bellows. Neither for sale, but if you're in the Hexham area you're very welcome to come and see them - coffee provided. Marianne. Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:31:42 + To:

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread Richard York
This thread is great - thanks again all. Resonance affected by neck shape, air flow etc - forgive my ignorance but does the presence of a bit of foam in the top of the split stock, put there I assume to prevent either seasoning escaping into chanter or loose reed escaping into bag, not affect

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread GibbonsSoinne
I always understood the point of the open-cell foam in the neck is to remove the neck resonance problem referred to earlier. The frequency of this resonance depends critically on the shape - if you model the bag as a big cavity with a narrow tubular neck,like a bottle, the formula

[NSP] Re: bag shape

2010-01-27 Thread CalecM
And what's more interesting is that in Old Norse, the word blathra not only means blather but also bladder, which takes us right back to pipe bags!! Alec In a message dated 1/27/2010 2:27:28 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, tim.ro...@btconnect.com writes: ..and isn't the