[NSP] Re: Colin Ross and all that
On 21 Oct 2009, at 10:00, Anthony Robb wrote: Is it unreasonable to suggest that there'd be no nsp if it wasn't for the NPS Yes. Francis To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Brilliant John! Puts us all in our place. (If we select the wrong person, the Americans could come here to help bring about Regime Change) Only joking Philip - Original Message - From: Dally, John john.da...@hmhpub.com To: what.me what...@ntlworld.com; nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 1:24 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross I agree completely with Adrian. I too will not accept any cups, medals, trophies or sleep-over offers from some politition. I urge all other trophy hunters, um, I mean Society members to do the same. For many years now I have NOT been collecting cups, medals and trophies, but I had no idea that my lack of acquisitiveness was a bold political statement. If I ever win anything again, I'll give it to Colin Ross who is much more deserving and whose many photos in the Newsletter are a constant reminder that I live down here on earth. To Julia Say: I wish to know if by paying my dues (which are nearly equal to the cost of a second rate chanter reed) I have interfered some how with British politics. We Americans are loath to interfere with other governments, as you all know, so I shall happily accept a refund of my dues at this time if the funds will be used in anyway to further the personal political ambitions in piping or otherwise of any one individual, elected or otherwise appointed. Respectfully, John To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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On 23 May 2009, Philip Gruar wrote: (If we select the wrong person, the Americans could come here to help bring about Regime Change) joke mode on No. I don't want to be interned as a hostile combatant!!! - Original Message - From: Dally, John john.da...@hmhpub.com For many years now I have NOT been collecting cups, medals and trophies, Then what's your name doing on the composition trophy that's on my shelf at the moment?? grin To Julia Say: I wish to know if by paying my dues (which are nearly equal to the cost of a second rate chanter reed) I have interfered some how with British politics. John, the NPS secretary wishes to assure you that none of your subscription is used to fund any political activity of any sort. Our members come from all walks of life and doubtless hold many differing political, religious and other potentially contentious views - like how to make second rate reeds. How many do you require?? We Americans are loath to interfere with other governments, as you all know, Err. no, on second thoughts perhaps I'd better not grin Good to lighten up for a bit Julia To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Thanks very much for the compliment Adrian, but I think Colin is far more deserving than I am. Pauline - Original Message - From: what.me what...@ntlworld.com To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross I would certainly vote for Colin to be president even though I don't agree with some of the things he says or does. I hope he gets on the mend soon too. I certainly don't want some politition to be the President and I will not accept any cups or medals off her. If not Colin then how about Dianna Blackett-Ord, Rowland Lofthouse or Pauline Cato?-some young blood would be nice for a change. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Just to add to the tributes, it was Colin who taught me most of what I know of pipe-making. In sharp contrast to the culture of trade secrets, and mutual suspicion between makers and players which, at least at one time, seemed to exist in the world of Highland piping - Colin was always completely open and enormously generous with his time and knowledge. I put a posting up here saying that Joyce Quin seemed a good choice - but that was before I knew Colin was willing. Philip - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Dartmouth NPS Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:57 PM Subject: [NSP] Colin Ross I'm well aware some of you are fairly new to piping and may not be au fait with some of Colin's achievements. Here is a brief list from my perspective: * It was Colin Ross who made his own pipes and took them throughout the world touring with the High Level Ranters from the mid 60s onwards * It was Colin Ross who further promoted the pipes on Alang the Coaly Tyne and Northumberland Forever in the late 60s early70s * It was Colin Ross who turned down the opportunity of a solo album in the mid 70s and brought together the musicians that would become the Cut Dry Band to make two important pipes-based albums * It was Colin Ross who, through interviews on national radio and several appearances on TV made every folkie in the UK aware of the pipes in the 70s and conjured up enough interest nationally and internationally to make it possible for a budding young maker (David Burleigh) to give up being a taxidermist at the Hancock Museum and turn full time pipes maker. * It was Colin Ross who provided the vision and driving force to quadruple the size of the Society in an increasingly competitive world when it's never been easier to access pipes music and information from other sources * It is Colin Ross who has been a stalwart pillar and inspiration to members of this Society consistently and conscientiously for 45 years. Hoping this helps people to realise that despite my personal differences with Colin, his achievements dwarf those of the rest of us and quite probably those of the rest of the Society's officers combined. As aye Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2125 - Release Date: 05/20/09 18:03:00
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
I agree completely with Adrian. I too will not accept any cups, medals, trophies or sleep-over offers from some politition. I urge all other trophy hunters, um, I mean Society members to do the same. For many years now I have NOT been collecting cups, medals and trophies, but I had no idea that my lack of acquisitiveness was a bold political statement. If I ever win anything again, I'll give it to Colin Ross who is much more deserving and whose many photos in the Newsletter are a constant reminder that I live down here on earth. To Julia Say: I wish to know if by paying my dues (which are nearly equal to the cost of a second rate chanter reed) I have interfered some how with British politics. We Americans are loath to interfere with other governments, as you all know, so I shall happily accept a refund of my dues at this time if the funds will be used in anyway to further the personal political ambitions in piping or otherwise of any one individual, elected or otherwise appointed. Respectfully, John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of what.me Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 11:00 AM To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross I certainly don't want some politition to be the President and I will not accept any cups or medals off her. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
I agree with Anthony. I think Colin has to be one of the most deserving people in decades. Surely this is a great opportunity to appoint a president in recognition of a huge contribution to our instrument. Helen - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: [NSP] Colin Ross Dear All What a shame Colin Ross has stood down from the chairmanship of the society in these circumstances. Colin I do not always see eye to eye about some things, but the fact remains that his devotion to, and knowledge of piping, and pipes-making remain unsurpassed. After over 40 years of absolute commitment to our cause I would have thought he'd have been an obvious contender for the Presidency of the Society. Is this me being totally naive? I feel an opportunity to recognise the contribution of one of the giants of the Northumbrian piping world has been missed. As aye Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
I don't often comment these days, but, like a lot of NPS Members, I'm still lurking... I'd support this Simon On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Helen Capes [1]helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz wrote: I agree with Anthony. I think Colin has to be one of the most deserving people in decades. Surely this is a great opportunity to appoint a president in recognition of a huge contribution to our instrument. Helen - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb [2]anth...@robbpipes.com To: Dartmouth NPS [3]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: [NSP] Colin Ross Dear All What a shame Colin Ross has stood down from the chairmanship of the society in these circumstances. Colin I do not always see eye to eye about some things, but the fact remains that his devotion to, and knowledge of piping, and pipes-making remain unsurpassed. After over 40 years of absolute commitment to our cause I would have thought he'd have been an obvious contender for the Presidency of the Society. Is this me being totally naive? I feel an opportunity to recognise the contribution of one of the giants of the Northumbrian piping world has been missed. As aye Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz 2. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 3. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Anthony Robb wrote: Dear All What a shame Colin Ross has stood down from the chairmanship of the society in these circumstances. Colin I do not always see eye to eye about some things, but the fact remains that his devotion to, and knowledge of piping, and pipes-making remain unsurpassed. After over 40 years of absolute commitment to our cause I would have thought he'd have been an obvious contender for the Presidency of the Society. I totally agree- Colin's huge contribution over a lifetime needs to be recognised and this would be one way to do it. Richard -- Richard Evans To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Julia As chairman, didn't Colin help select the new president? He certainly suggested candidates that he thought were suitable at the?last newsletter?packing session. ? Malcolm -Original Message- From: Julia Say lt;julia@nspipes.co.ukgt; To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 10:17 am Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross On 21 May 2009, Richard Evans wrote: gt; Colin's huge contribution over a lifetime needs to be gt; recognised and this would be one way to do it. All these responses are being noted, both those on this list, and ones I have received offlist. To date, the suggestions have been unanimous - no other person has been mentioned.I will report this to the committee, not all of whom read this list.Julia SayTo get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html --
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
On 21 May 2009, malcra...@aol.com wrote: As chairman, didn't Colin help select the new president? Colin withdrew his name from the original list of suggestions on which a vote was taken. So, yes, he took part in the process. No, he was not a candidate at that point. My last posting stands. This correspondence represents significant views by members of the NPS, and as such will be reported to the committee. Julia Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
I would whole-heartedly support any move to appoint Colin as President, for Lifetime Achievement reasons, but ONLY if he himself were entirely happy with it. He certainly doesn't need the sort of back-biting criticism which now seems all too prevalent. Maybe a public figure outside the mainstream would be less at risk from all that. This begs the question of what does the President actually DO, and do we really need one? Is there some other way Colin's achievement can be recognised? Philip To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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If Colin is available, then it would seem bizarre -- and a gratuitous insult -- to appoint anyone else, certainly some politician whom none of us have ever heard of in a piping context and who isn't even a member of the society. Other similar organisations normally have a president who is eminent as a maker, player, scholar etc. of the instrument concerned. Examples include the LBPS and even the Piobaireachd Society (nowadays). BTW, I'm intrigued by your remark ...the committee, not all of whom read this list. All but one of the committee would appear to have a computer. I wonder why they would not want to keep track of this list? Cheers, Paul Gretton -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: 21 May 2009 11:17 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross On 21 May 2009, Richard Evans wrote: Colin's huge contribution over a lifetime needs to be recognised and this would be one way to do it. All these responses are being noted, both those on this list, and ones I have received offlist. To date, the suggestions have been unanimous - no other person has been mentioned. I will report this to the committee, not all of whom read this list. Julia Say To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Another vote in favour - if Colin is willing, obviously To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Am I missing something here? Being very much on the fringe, as it were, I would have thought that as Colin has stood down from the committee for medical reasons on the advice of his doctor, that the same reasons would necessarily preclude him from selection for A.N.other post, for the good of his health. Di Jevons - Original Message - From: Simon James si...@simonjames.net To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:55 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross I don't often comment these days, but, like a lot of NPS Members, I'm still lurking... I'd support this Simon On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Helen Capes [1]helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz wrote: I agree with Anthony. I think Colin has to be one of the most deserving people in decades. Surely this is a great opportunity to appoint a president in recognition of a huge contribution to our instrument. Helen - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb [2]anth...@robbpipes.com To: Dartmouth NPS [3]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: [NSP] Colin Ross Dear All What a shame Colin Ross has stood down from the chairmanship of the society in these circumstances. Colin I do not always see eye to eye about some things, but the fact remains that his devotion to, and knowledge of piping, and pipes-making remain unsurpassed. After over 40 years of absolute commitment to our cause I would have thought he'd have been an obvious contender for the Presidency of the Society. Is this me being totally naive? I feel an opportunity to recognise the contribution of one of the giants of the Northumbrian piping world has been missed. As aye Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at [4]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. mailto:helen.ca...@paradise.net.nz 2. mailto:anth...@robbpipes.com 3. mailto:nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2125 - Release Date: 05/20/09 18:03:00
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Thank you for the explanation. I think that those of us who want to see Colin as President are assuming (a) that he would be prepared to accept the post, (b) that his health would allow it, and (c) that the duties of Chairman and President are sufficiently different that he would feel healthy enough to take up the latter post even though he has resigned the former. I would hope that the committee would be able to find some solution -- within the rules -- that would allow Colin to become President if (a), (b), and (c) apply. Cheers, Paul Gretton -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of suzefis...@aol.com Sent: 21 May 2009 12:27 To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross Dear all I'd like to respond to the first part of Pauls e mail. No one is doubting the huge contribution Colin has made to the NPS and piping in general. However as a Society with written rules the committee is obliged to abide by them. At the time of Jim's death Colin was Chairman, the rules clearly stat that a new President should be appointed within 6 months of the position being vacant. Members must be given notice of the EGM required to ratify the committee's recommendation, therefore a new President was needed by mid June so a notice can go out in the July newsletter. As Colin was Chairman it was not appropriate for him to be considered as President. At the committee meeting on 21st March Colin removed himself from the list of potential candidates. A short list was drawn up and Julia tasked to contact the favoured candidate. This she has done and Joyce Quinn has accepted. I would have thought that the fact that Colin has resigned at the recommendation of his doctor, would indicate that he needs to take some time out from all things, to allow himself to recover his health. Susan Craven To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Hello Folks Is it a Society rule that the Chairman can not become the President? If so, why didn't the committee suggest he stand down immediately in order to be eligible? Huge is not quite the word to describe Colin's contribution. He was a trail-blazer at a time when there was not a single professional pipe-maker. People who have entered the piping world in the last 20 years do not have a clue about Colin's real contribution. Absolutely outstanding is a truer assessment; I know Colin is prone to stress problems but the role of President would have eased his burden and been a perfect recognition of this. Unless of course, heaven forfend, it is the committee that has caused his stress in the first place. One does wonder. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 21/5/09, suzefis...@aol.com suzefis...@aol.com wrote: From: suzefis...@aol.com suzefis...@aol.com Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 11:26 AM Dear all I'd like to respond to the first part of Pauls e mail. No one is doubting the huge contribution Colin has made to the NPS and piping in general. However as a Society with written rules the committee is obliged to abide by them. At the time of Jim's death Colin was Chairman, the rules clearly stat that a new President should be appointed within 6 months of the position being vacant. Members must be given notice of the EGM required to ratify the committee's recommendation, therefore a new President was needed by mid June so a notice can go out in the July newsletter. As Colin was Chairman it was not appropriate for him to be considered as President. At the committee meeting on 21st March Colin removed himself from the list of potential candidates. A short list was drawn up and Julia tasked to contact the favoured candidate. This she has done and Joyce Quinn has accepted. I would have thought that the fact that Colin has resigned at the recommendation of his doctor, would indicate that he needs to take some time out from all things, to allow himself to recover his health. Susan Craven -Original Message- From: Hilary Paton [1]h.pa...@blueyonder.co.uk To: [2]...@cs.dartmouth.edu; Paul Gretton [3]i...@gretton-willems.com Sent: Thu, 21 May 2009 11:13 Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross I would like to respond to the second part of this posting. I am amazed that in the current world of most p rople having computers that the NPS does not use emails to update and send out information to its members. Instead there is a reliance on people subscribing to a voluntary list. Several years agin, I came off dartmouth due to recieving viruses which I trsaced back to being a member of this list, despite vhaving virus protection. As a member of the NPS committee, I don't think it is considered to be part of the role to be on the dartmouth mailing list. Is it not time the NPS set up its own mailing list to email members who have supplied an email address, of which there are many who I know are not on dartmouth. Hilary - Original Message - From: Paul Gretton [4]i...@gretton-willems.com To: [5]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross If Colin is available, then it would seem bizarre -- and a gratuitous insult -- to appoint anyone else, certainly some politician whom none of us have ever heard of in a piping context and who isn't even a member of the society. Other similar organisations normally have a president who is eminent as a maker, player, scholar etc. of the instrument concerned. Examples include the LBPS and even the Piobaireachd Society (nowadays). BTW, I'm intrigued by your remark ...the committee, not all of whom read this list. All but one of the committee would appear to have a compu ter. I wonder why they would not want to keep track of this list? Cheers, Paul Gretton -Original Message- From: [6]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[7]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Julia Say Sent: 21 May 2009 11:17 To: [8]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross On 21 May 2009, Richard Evans wrote: Colin's huge contribution over a lifetime needs to be recognised and this would be one way to do it. All these responses are being noted, both those on this list, and ones I have received offlist. To date, the suggestions have been unanimous - no other person has been mentioned. I will report this to the committee, not all of whom read this list. Julia Say To get on or off this list see list information at [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Colin's services to the instrument and its music are huge - and far outweigh any recent disagreements. His contribution to pipemaking alone is vast; his contribution to the music over decades, is equally so. That there are so many pipers today, playing beautiful and reliable instruments in the same pitch, when half a century ago there were, comparatively, just a handful, is largely down to both Colin's pipemaking and his consistent encouragement of pipers. John -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Helen Capes Sent: 21 May 2009 09:40 To: Anthony Robb; Dartmouth NPS Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross I agree with Anthony. I think Colin has to be one of the most deserving people in decades. Surely this is a great opportunity to appoint a president in recognition of a huge contribution to our instrument. Helen - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: [NSP] Colin Ross Dear All What a shame Colin Ross has stood down from the chairmanship of the society in these circumstances. Colin I do not always see eye to eye about some things, but the fact remains that his devotion to, and knowledge of piping, and pipes-making remain unsurpassed. After over 40 years of absolute commitment to our cause I would have thought he'd have been an obvious contender for the Presidency of the Society. Is this me being totally naive? I feel an opportunity to recognise the contribution of one of the giants of the Northumbrian piping world has been missed. As aye Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Julia Say wrote: This will still only cover about 80% of members (if that). As you will appreciate, it is a slightly different order of magnitude job to set up such a list for 850 members than it is for 80-odd. I have been hoping that it could be done via the website, but as you know this (in some respects) did not materialise as expected, and the matter is only now being sorted out by the installation of a new one. just a brief - ish aside on the subject mailing lists - I've been trying to set up an 'announcements' only list for the LBPS and found a number of difficulties, not least ensuring that members keep us up to date with their email addresses and that mailings don't end up in their junk folders. I tried a Google group before realising that people had to sign up for a Google account which many didn't want to do. I'm currently working on a more personalised list, but it is still fraught with problems (including privacy settings) and we are sticking with newsletters via snail mail at least for now. Anyway Julia, if you find a solution I will be pleased to hear about it! -- Anita Evans To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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Likewise from me, with the same proviso. On 21 May 2009, at 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Another vote in favour - if Colin is willing, obviously To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Daphne Briggs 34 Thorncliffe Road Oxford OX2 7BB Tel/Fax +44 (0)1865 310712
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Hello All I managed to phone Colin after my last posting and was very interested to hear what he had to say. May I be naughty and ask people reading this to email me if they too think it was an opportunity missed to overlook Colin for this position. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Daphne Briggs daphne.bri...@waitrose.com wrote: From: Daphne Briggs daphne.bri...@waitrose.com Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross To: Matt Seattle theborderpi...@googlemail.com Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 4:56 PM Likewise from me, with the same proviso. On 21 May 2009, at 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Another vote in favour - if Colin is willing, obviously To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Daphne Briggs 34 Thorncliffe Road Oxford OX2 7BB Tel/Fax +44 (0)1865 310712 -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
I would certainly vote for Colin to be president even though I don't agree with some of the things he says or does. I hope he gets on the mend soon too. I certainly don't want some politition to be the President and I will not accept any cups or medals off her. If not Colin then how about Dianna Blackett-Ord, Rowland Lofthouse or Pauline Cato?-some young blood would be nice for a change. Adrian To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
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I'm not sure it was an opportunity missed. If I understand the situation correctly (and maybe I don't), it wasn't possible, according to the rules. And Julia is absolutely right, that the rules can't just be set aside because they are inconvenient at a particular point. Having said that, I fully agree that Colin should be honoured in whatever way may be possible. If it is still possible for him to be President at this stage, within the rules, I'd be all for it. I do feel a bit sorry for the lady who's already been asked, though. Chris Harris -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: 21 May 2009 17:09 To: Matt Seattle; Daphne Briggs Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross Hello All I managed to phone Colin after my last posting and was very interested to hear what he had to say. May I be naughty and ask people reading this to email me if they too think it was an opportunity missed to overlook Colin for this position. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Daphne Briggs daphne.bri...@waitrose.com wrote: From: Daphne Briggs daphne.bri...@waitrose.com Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross To: Matt Seattle theborderpi...@googlemail.com Cc: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 4:56 PM Likewise from me, with the same proviso. On 21 May 2009, at 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Another vote in favour - if Colin is willing, obviously To get on or off this list see list information at [1]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Daphne Briggs 34 Thorncliffe Road Oxford OX2 7BB Tel/Fax +44 (0)1865 310712 -- References 1. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.32/2117 - Release Date: 05/19/09 06:21:00
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Hello Chris It seems it wasn't aginst the rules - it was deemed inappropriate, and even if the rules stated (which they don't) that the chairman couldn't become president, it could have been sorted easily by Colin relinquishing the chairmanship. As I said, I phoned Colin (rather belatedly) to get his take on the situation and he is philisophical about it all but I also know he'd have been delighted to accept the presidency had the committee been serious about endeavouring to offer him it. The more I dwell on it the worse it becomes. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Chris Harris ch...@harris405.plus.com wrote: From: Chris Harris ch...@harris405.plus.com Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross To: nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 8:21 PM I'm not sure it was an opportunity missed. If I understand the situation correctly (and maybe I don't), it wasn't possible, according to the rules. And Julia is absolutely right, that the rules can't just be set aside because they are inconvenient at a particular point. Having said that, I fully agree that Colin should be honoured in whatever way may be possible. If it is still possible for him to be President at this stage, within the rules, I'd be all for it. I do feel a bit sorry for the lady who's already been asked, though. Chris Harris -Original Message- From: [1]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:[2]lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Anthony Robb Sent: 21 May 2009 17:09 To: Matt Seattle; Daphne Briggs Cc: [3]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross Hello All I managed to phone Colin after my last posting and was very interested to hear what he had to say. May I be naughty and ask people reading this to email me if they too think it was an opportunity missed to overlook Colin for this position. As aye Anthony --- On Thu, 21/5/09, Daphne Briggs [4]daphne.bri...@waitrose.com wrote: From: Daphne Briggs [5]daphne.bri...@waitrose.com Subject: [NSP] Re: Colin Ross To: Matt Seattle [6]theborderpi...@googlemail.com Cc: [7]...@cs.dartmouth.edu Date: Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 4:56 PM Likewise from me, with the same proviso. On 21 May 2009, at 10:49, Matt Seattle wrote: Another vote in favour - if Colin is willing, obviously To get on or off this list see list information at [1][8]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html Daphne Briggs 34 Thorncliffe Road Oxford OX2 7BB Tel/Fax +44 (0)1865 310712 -- References 1. [9]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.32/2117 - Release Date: 05/19/09 06:21:00 -- References 1. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 2. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu 3. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@cs.dartmouth.edu 4. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=daphne.bri...@waitrose.com 5. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=daphne.bri...@waitrose.com 6. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=theborderpi...@googlemail.com 7. http://uk.mc12.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=...@cs.dartmouth.edu 8. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html 9. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[NSP] Re: Colin Ross
Thank you for putting into word what I was thinking. Colin Hill - Original Message - From: Anthony Robb anth...@robbpipes.com To: Dartmouth NPS nsp@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:55 PM Subject: [NSP] Colin Ross Dear All What a shame Colin Ross has stood down from the chairmanship of the society in these circumstances. Colin I do not always see eye to eye about some things, but the fact remains that his devotion to, and knowledge of piping, and pipes-making remain unsurpassed. After over 40 years of absolute commitment to our cause I would have thought he'd have been an obvious contender for the Presidency of the Society. Is this me being totally naive? I feel an opportunity to recognise the contribution of one of the giants of the Northumbrian piping world has been missed. As aye Anthony -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
