Re: [NSWolves] Forums

2011-10-19 Thread Steven Millward
Super effective wishing when coming from you Jeremy.

On 20 October 2011 12:01, Jeremy Tonks  wrote:

> 
>
> This has been a fun thread. I’ve been away for a couple of weeks and have
> just smiled wryly as I’ve read through.
>
> To me the fundamental problem at present seems to be MM’s relationship with
> Henry. Wolves have shown themselves to be a more than competitive side
> without him… but there he is now, week after week. I hate wishing injury on
> players but sometimes I find myself very sorely tempted… L
>
> ** **
>  --
>
> *From:* **nswolves@googlegroups.com** [mailto:**nswolves@googlegroups.com*
> *] *On Behalf Of *Rog & Reet
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 9:39 PM
>
> *To:* **nswolves@googlegroups.com**
> *Subject:* RE: [NSWolves] Forums
> 
>
>   ** **
>
> 25,000 in those cities would be as a reserve, I’d want first team football.
> 
>
> Plus they’re not near Bishop’s Castle.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* **nswolves@googlegroups.com** [mailto:**nswolves@googlegroups.com*
> *] *On Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 8:58 PM
> *To:* **nswolves@googlegroups.com**
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Forums
>
> ** **
>
> Even if you had the chance to live in **London** or Manchester for
> 25,000 quid a week?
>
> On 18 October 2011 20:34, Rog & Reet  wrote:
>
> I’d live there for 15,000 quid a week.
>
>  
>
> *From:* nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Steven Millward
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 October 2011 8:16 PM
>
>
> *To:* nswolves@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [NSWolves] Forums
>
>  
>
> So the team is actually performing above the level that you would expect?
> All credit to Mick and the lads then.
>
> I don't think anyone wants to live near **Wolverhampton** for the wages we
> are willing to pay.
>
> On 18 October 2011 20:14, Marcus Chantry 
> wrote:
>
> I think with the players that we have in the squad we should be in the
> relegation zone. Therein lies a big part of my concern; last season we
> stayed up by the skin of our teeth which should have alerted management to
> the fact that we needed strengthening and that a change in tactics might be
> considered.
>
> Instead, for whatever the reasons may be, we were unable to strengthen
> other than to add a central defender. There has been no noticeable change in
> our tactics so its understandable that we are again going to struggle. This
> is the very reason that I'm annoyed with wolves management at all levels,
> not just singling out mick.
>
>
>  
>
> *From*: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com] 
>
> *Sent*: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 07:56 PM
>
>
> *To*: nswolves@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject*: Re: [NSWolves] Forums 
>
>  
>
> At the risk of repeating myself indefinitely:  Marcus, on the basis of the
> players in the squads, where should we be in the league and which teams
> should be below us?
>
>
> On 18 October 2011 18:47, Marcus Chantry 
> wrote:
>
> But if your personal belief is that the manager makes very little
> difference to the success of the club, why are you up in arms about the fact
> that a lot of supporters want to change the manager? By your own admission
> it will have minimal impact so it shouldn't worry you or have I
> misunderstood your statement.
>
>
>  
>
> *From*: Steven Millward [mailto:millward@gmail.com]
> *Sent*: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 06:15 PM
> *To*: nswolves@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject*: Re: [NSWolves] Forums
>  
>
> I don't think we can get back there again, unless the financial fair play
> rules kick in and a lot of clubs fall on hard times, when we will be very
> well positioned.  We could hope to win a cup and get into **Europe** but
> winning the league is unrealisitic.  I hope we can get to win a cup but we
> have to run the club soundly to get there.  My personal belief is that a
> manager makes very little difference to the long term position of a club.*
> ***
>
>  
>
> I wonder where we would have been had we got into the Prem in the early
> days with teh likes of Keane, Lescott etc.
>
>  
>
>
>
>  
>
> On 18 October 2011 14:41, Paul Crowe 
> wrote:
>
> I respect your view Steve but luckily I have seen us compete in Europe,
> challenge for the League finishing in the top 6, win 2 x league Cup’s, get
> to semi-final’s of the FA Cup and be genuinely feared by the likes of Man
> Utd and Liverpool! I want to see those days again before I cark it! We are
> not a small club, never have been and never will be. 
>
>  
>
> We can achieve success again. I know it is not as achievable as it was 30
> or 40 years ago but it is still possible. Sorry mate but as far as
> professional sport is concerned if you don’t aim for the Stars you are going
> to finish nowhere!
>
>  
>
> Mick has been a great Manager for us, I agree 100% and will always be
> grateful!  He

RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

2011-10-19 Thread Jeremy Tonks

Luxury!
I've been a Wolves fan since 1896!!
But apart from Joe/Jack/John Tonks (ggfather) losing the cup final that
year, my first excursions to the Mol were in 1974 - seeing the Doog play
when we lost to Spurs and beat Carlisle. I remember my dad yelling at
Sunderland to get his hair cut as several headers just slid off
ineffectually in front of goal.
It was great to be there for an EPL win in Dec 2009 when we beat Bolton.
Can't wait to be there again...

-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of LEESE Matthew
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 8:48 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?


My first games going to watch Wolves were in the old 4th division (my old
man's a Liverpool fan so I didn't inherit them through a family member who
took me as a kid) and I have to say, those were some of my best times
watching Wolves. Major disappointment watching us lose to Aldershot in the
play offs, but from that point we had a few great years where we tore teams
apart and Steve Bull was scoring for fun. Going to grounds where the away
fans out numbered the home, paying blokes on the turnstiles a backhander to
let us in and having a right laugh with my mates as we secured successive
promotions were my 'halcyon days'. Our extended stay in what is now the
Championship became a bit of a grind after a while and the expectation that
came with Sir Jack's investment changed the whole atmosphere. Me and my
mates had many conversations during that period about the merits of getting
relegated - getting to go to a few different grounds again, losing some of
the annoying home 'fans' and lowering people's expectations - but ultimately
concluded that while it would be refreshing to go to few different grounds
again the atmosphere would never return to that carefree 'backs to the wall'
one that came with coming within touching distance of going under and the
expectation levels would probably be even greater as we played teams like
Bury and Rochdale in our shiny new stadium rather than the 2 sided relic of
the pre-Hayward days. 

Ah, the good old bad old days 

-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 8:16 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

I helped carry the Doog shoulder high around the South Bank that first game
after being saved. A rare happy day, then it all turned to !

Pretty much sums up following the Wolves these last 30 years. I'm with Jim
and Mark, once hooked there is no escape, no matter how much suffering they
put you through. Those rare happy days keep the faith burning. 

Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
 
ConTech (Sydney Office)
 
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW  2138
Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: www.contechengineering.com


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 10:10 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

I have often wondered how my life would have changed if, on that fateful
Wednesday night in 1966, my Dad had taken me to Old Trafford instead of
Molineux. It's rather like dreaming of winning lotto: a few minutes of
fantasy and then back to reality. Nevertheless, it was Molineux that night
and I was immediately under the Wolves spell. I really don't know how anyone
can stop supporting them. Remember those few minutes back in 80's when we
almost went bust, and the Doog came through at the last minute to save us
(albeit temporarily). I was on the 'phone to England where dad had the
receiver against the radio with live coverage of events. The sheer joy of
being saved. I still think of that moment when things look bleak. Prefer to
support a Wolves side wherever they may be, and long as they are there.
We will have our time in the sun again sometime.



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of mark worrall
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 8:33 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

Yes Richard, thats right, theres no way out. Supporting Wolves is a life
long suffering there is no escape from. You can change your room, but you
can't checkout.

You can run, but you can't hide. You think you're free, but sooner or later
you'll walk around the corner and see another loser in a Old Gold and Black
shirt, and you'll start wondering again... I wonder where they are in the
league now? (should be IF they are still in the league) They must be doing
better by now ?  (no, they wont be) I wonder if they've found ano

RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

2011-10-19 Thread LEESE Matthew

My first games going to watch Wolves were in the old 4th division (my old man's 
a Liverpool fan so I didn't inherit them through a family member who took me as 
a kid) and I have to say, those were some of my best times watching Wolves. 
Major disappointment watching us lose to Aldershot in the play offs, but from 
that point we had a few great years where we tore teams apart and Steve Bull 
was scoring for fun. Going to grounds where the away fans out numbered the 
home, paying blokes on the turnstiles a backhander to let us in and having a 
right laugh with my mates as we secured successive promotions were my 'halcyon 
days'. Our extended stay in what is now the Championship became a bit of a 
grind after a while and the expectation that came with Sir Jack's investment 
changed the whole atmosphere. Me and my mates had many conversations during 
that period about the merits of getting relegated - getting to go to a few 
different grounds again, losing some of the annoying home 'fans' and lowering 
people's expectations - but ultimately concluded that while it would be 
refreshing to go to few different grounds again the atmosphere would never 
return to that carefree 'backs to the wall' one that came with coming within 
touching distance of going under and the expectation levels would probably be 
even greater as we played teams like Bury and Rochdale in our shiny new stadium 
rather than the 2 sided relic of the pre-Hayward days. 

Ah, the good old bad old days 

-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Crowe
Sent: Thursday, 20 October 2011 8:16 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

I helped carry the Doog shoulder high around the South Bank that first game 
after being saved. A rare happy day, then it all turned to !

Pretty much sums up following the Wolves these last 30 years. I'm with Jim and 
Mark, once hooked there is no escape, no matter how much suffering they put you 
through. Those rare happy days keep the faith burning. 

Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
 
ConTech (Sydney Office)
 
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW  2138
Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: www.contechengineering.com


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 10:10 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

I have often wondered how my life would have changed if, on that fateful 
Wednesday night in 1966, my Dad had taken me to Old Trafford instead of 
Molineux. It's rather like dreaming of winning lotto: a few minutes of fantasy 
and then back to reality. Nevertheless, it was Molineux that night and I was 
immediately under the Wolves spell. I really don't know how anyone can stop 
supporting them. Remember those few minutes back in 80's when we almost went 
bust, and the Doog came through at the last minute to save us (albeit 
temporarily). I was on the 'phone to England where dad had the receiver against 
the radio with live coverage of events. The sheer joy of being saved. I still 
think of that moment when things look bleak. Prefer to support a Wolves side 
wherever they may be, and long as they are there.
We will have our time in the sun again sometime.



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mark worrall
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 8:33 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

Yes Richard, thats right, theres no way out. Supporting Wolves is a life long 
suffering there is no escape from. You can change your room, but you can't 
checkout.

You can run, but you can't hide. You think you're free, but sooner or later 
you'll walk around the corner and see another loser in a Old Gold and Black 
shirt, and you'll start wondering again... I wonder where they are in the 
league now? (should be IF they are still in the league) They must be doing 
better by now ?  (no, they wont be) I wonder if they've found another Steve 
Bull ? (no, theres more chance of him making a comeback) Have they still got 
that Mick McCarthy as manager ? (yes, they probably will) Have they bought any 
decent players yet (no, they wont have)

We must all be paying a penance for a high price for being horrible people in 
previous incarnations. But we have probably chosen to be Wolves fans as I hear 
the more suffering you choose in each life, the greater growth you can achieve. 
So when we get to the pearly gates, we'll all be in for a BIG heavenly payout 
that will make 500 virgins seem like childs play.

I'm sure Steve will take you off the list. But what will you tell God when he 
meets you and he asks why y

Re: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

2011-10-19 Thread Steven Millward
Rich, I've removed you from the group.  You can still post to it if there is
a problem but you won't receive emails anymore.  I note that you asked to be
removed same time last year.  I apprecaite your patience in waiting a year
to ask again and having to read the driven on here.

On 19 October 2011 08:12, Richard Cox  wrote:

> Or is it like the Hotel California?
>
> --
> Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager
>

-- 
Boo! Thick Mick Out.


RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

2011-10-19 Thread Paul Crowe
I helped carry the Doog shoulder high around the South Bank that first game
after being saved. A rare happy day, then it all turned to !

Pretty much sums up following the Wolves these last 30 years. I'm with Jim
and Mark, once hooked there is no escape, no matter how much suffering they
put you through. Those rare happy days keep the faith burning. 

Paul Crowe
Sales Manager - Asia Pacific
 
ConTech (Sydney Office)
 
PO Box 3517
Rhodes Waterside
Rhodes NSW  2138
Tel: 02 97396636  Fax: 02 97396542
Mob: 0406009562
Email: pcr...@contechengineering.com
Website: www.contechengineering.com


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Parkes Jim - Sydney-MHA
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 10:10 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

I have often wondered how my life would have changed if, on that fateful
Wednesday night in 1966, my Dad had taken me to Old Trafford instead of
Molineux. It's rather like dreaming of winning lotto: a few minutes of
fantasy and then back to reality. Nevertheless, it was Molineux that night
and I was immediately under the Wolves spell. I really don't know how anyone
can stop supporting them. Remember those few minutes back in 80's when we
almost went bust, and the Doog came through at the last minute to save us
(albeit temporarily). I was on the 'phone to England where dad had the
receiver against the radio with live coverage of events. The sheer joy of
being saved. I still think of that moment when things look bleak. Prefer to
support a Wolves side wherever they may be, and long as they are there.
We will have our time in the sun again sometime.



-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of mark worrall
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 8:33 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

Yes Richard, thats right, theres no way out. Supporting Wolves is a life
long suffering there is no escape from. You can change your room, but you
can't checkout.

You can run, but you can't hide. You think you're free, but sooner or later
you'll walk around the corner and see another loser in a Old Gold and Black
shirt, and you'll start wondering again... I wonder where they are in the
league now? (should be IF they are still in the league) They must be doing
better by now ?  (no, they wont be) I wonder if they've found another Steve
Bull ? (no, theres more chance of him making a comeback) Have they still got
that Mick McCarthy as manager ? (yes, they probably will) Have they bought
any decent players yet (no, they wont have)

We must all be paying a penance for a high price for being horrible people
in previous incarnations. But we have probably chosen to be Wolves fans as I
hear the more suffering you choose in each life, the greater growth you can
achieve. So when we get to the pearly gates, we'll all be in for a BIG
heavenly payout that will make 500 virgins seem like childs play.

I'm sure Steve will take you off the list. But what will you tell God when
he meets you and he asks why you walked out on your chosen suffering ?  Out
of Darkness remember...  ;-)


-Original Message-
From: nswolves@googlegroups.com [mailto:nswolves@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Richard Cox
Sent: Wednesday, 19 October 2011 7:13 AM
To: nswolves@googlegroups.com
Subject: [NSWolves] Can someone pls remove me from this googlegroup?

Or is it like the Hotel California?

--
Marcus thinks Mick is a superb manager

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Boo! Thick Mick Out.