Re: [NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-02 Thread Alan BRASLAU
The handling of the vons issue is cultural and language-dependent. The problem with mucking around with vonsep and other parameters is that one may very well have a mixture of references in a single document (this is often the case for me). I see no solution other than trying to identify some

Re: [NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-02 Thread Keith Schultz
Hi Hans, All, Am 02.02.2015 um 01:05 schrieb Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl: [snip, snip] I'm sure we can cook up something. Personally I'd like to get away from this 'von' and 'junior' thing and use better names, like initials (by default taken from firstnames) firstnames prefixes (unless

Re: [NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-02 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/2/2015 3:23 PM, Alan BRASLAU wrote: The handling of the vons issue is cultural and language-dependent. The problem with mucking around with vonsep and other parameters is that one may very well have a mixture of references in a single document (this is often the case for me). I see no

Re: [NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-02 Thread Alan BRASLAU
Of course, language of the cited publication. Nothing else makes sense at all. This field is also to be used for hyphenation of the title field. BUT, the author of the TeX document must control and decide if the bibliography will use an eventual language= field or rather use the language rule in

[NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-01 Thread Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد
Dear Syndicate, The current bibliography handler uses the following for authors: \type{\author[junior]{firstnames}[inits]{von}{surname}} Now in Arabic we have something similar to the 'von' field: the definite article 'al-', 'ibn', etc. Just as with 'von' we want to ignore them in the

Re: [NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-01 Thread Keith J. Schultz
Hi Idris, All, We have here the classical database problem of finding a format that fits all. But, as any body working with databases knows this will not work with a rigid format. Here we have 3 fields for the authors can can be misused. The von is the most problematic. It seems due to its

Re: [NTG-context] A note on Arabic names in bibliographies and indices

2015-02-01 Thread Hans Hagen
On 2/1/2015 4:06 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Dear Syndicate, The current bibliography handler uses the following for authors: \type{\author[junior]{firstnames}[inits]{von}{surname}} Looks mkii cq. th eold bin system ... no more time will be spent on that (by me). Now