[NTG-context] url compared to hyperref
When using hyperref and displaying the resulting PDF in xpdf, I see links that are active. I tried achieving the same with useURL, url and goto, but the resulting links aren't active in xpdf. I have to use acroread to have active links. Is there a compelling reason for this behavior? Thanks, Marko pgp1ZO68Ry55j.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
andrea valle wrote: Hi to all, sorry this should be obvious but I cannot find it in the docs. How do I set in \setupframed the frame thickness (i.e. the thickness of the surrounding border)? \framed[rulethickness=1mm]{Thick as can be} - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] textrules
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 19 Oct 2006, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Oct 19, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Thomas, add \showskips to your source (better a small one). I just tested a bit (between my current mp examples) and 'inbetween={\blank[2*big]}' and 'after={\blank[2*big]}' should do the job. If you dare, ask Hans about the meaning of 'before' ;) Greetings, Peter Thanks Peter, that was very helpful. I still had to tweak a bit, but by combining inbetween and after, I got an acceptable result. So the mystery thickens: what is before? :-) \textrule[top] does before --- (rule) inbetween \textrule[bottom] does inbetween -- after \textrule with no argumet is equal to \textrule[bottom] There is a \domiddletextrule that does inbetween inbetween but this is not interfaced with \textrule. It only becomes active inside a \starttextrule. \starttextrule{whatever} \input knuth \textrule \input knuth \stoptextrule To use this, you can define your own rule as \def\midtextrule{\dosinglegroupempty\domiddletextrule} \setuptextrules[inbetween={\blank[big]}] And midtextrule will use inbetween on both side. Hans, does it make sense to add this to core-rul? \def\complextextrule[#1]% {\processaction [#1] [ \v!top=\let\next\dotoptextrule, \v!bottom=\let\next\dobottomtextrule, middle=\let\next\domiddletextrule, %--- Added \v!middle -) added \s!default=\let\next\dobottomtextrule, \s!unknown=\let\next\dobottomtextrule]% \dosinglegroupempty\next} Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context and CD labels
Maurício a écrit : It's working now, I've just downloaded that file. I belive that paper is letter, although A4 is usually a lot more common here. Sections are not that important, as long as I can have different formats for some lines of text, and I'm sure that's not a problem. For sure, an example would be great! I'll let you do the job for positionning. You'll find as attached an example... Since it's not obvious to me to make a shapetext with a holed shape (I have tried some tricks but failed), I reserved 2 text areas: 1. (test 1) song list for example 2. (test 2|framedtext) Author title This example assumes that : - the first label is centered on x=.5\paperwidth y=.75\paperwidth - the second is centered on x=.5\paperwidth y=.25\paperheight You can even put a background image if you want, using overlay and clip... Renaud \setuppapersize[A4][A4] \setuppagenumbering[state=stop] \setupcolors[state=start] \useMPlibrary[txt] \startuseMPgraphic{test 1} path p; numeric orad, irad; orad := 6cm; irad := 2cm; path outercircle; outercircle := fullcircle scaled 2orad; path innercircle; innercircle := fullcircle scaled 2irad; path outershape; outershape := outercircle cutbefore((0,irad)--(orad,irad)) cutafter((0,-irad)--(orad,-irad)); path innershape; innershape := reverse (innercircle cutbefore((0,irad)--(irad,irad)) cutafter((0,-irad)--(irad,-irad))); p:= outershape--innershape--cycle; build_parshape(p,6pt,0,0,\baselinedistance,\strutheight,\strutdepth,\strutheight) ; %draw p withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ; \stopuseMPgraphic \startuseMPgraphic{test 2} path p; numeric orad, irad; orad := 6cm; irad := 2cm; path outercircle; outercircle := fullcircle scaled 2orad; path innercircle; innercircle := fullcircle scaled 2irad; path outershape; outershape := outercircle rotated 90 cutbefore((0,-irad)--(orad,-irad)) cutafter((0,irad)--(orad,irad)); path innershape; innershape := reverse (innercircle rotated 90 cutbefore((0,-irad)--(irad,-irad)) cutafter((0,irad)--(irad,irad))); p:= outershape--innershape--cycle; build_parshape(p,6pt,0,0,\baselinedistance,\strutheight,\strutdepth,\strutheight) ; %draw p withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ; \stopuseMPgraphic \defineoverlay[test 1][\useMPgraphic{test 1}] \defineoverlay[test 2][\useMPgraphic{test 2}] \startuseMPgraphic{CDShape} draw fullcircle scaled 12cm; draw fullcircle scaled 4cm; \stopuseMPgraphic \starttext \setupframed[offset=overlay,align=normal,frame=off,width=\parwidth,height=\parheight] \startproperty[hidden] I need some text to get the page... but also need to hide this text ! \stopproperty \definelayer[PageLayer][position=yes] \setupbackgrounds[page][background=PageLayer] \setuplayer[PageLayer][position=no,corner=bottom,height=\paperheight] %% check-up shape \setlayer[PageLayer][x=.5\paperwidth,y=.75\paperheight,location=c]{\useMPgraphic{CDShape}} %% text \startshapetext[test 1] \input tufte \stopshapetext % x = .5\paperwidth (210mm) - orad \setlayer[PageLayer][x=45mm,y=.75\paperheight,location=r]{\framed[background=test 1]{\getshapetext}} \startshapetext[test 2] \input knuth \stopshapetext % x = .5\paperwidth (210mm) + orad %\setlayer[PageLayer][x=165mm,y=.75\paperheight,location=l]{\framed[background=test 2]{\getshapetext}} \setlayer[PageLayer][x=145mm,y=.75\paperheight,location=c]{\framedtext[width=4cm,align=middle,frame=off]{Author \ Title\crlf and more if you want}} %% check-up shape \setlayer[PageLayer][x=.5\paperwidth,y=.25\paperheight,location=c]{\useMPgraphic{CDShape}} % text \startshapetext[test 1] \input zapf \stopshapetext % x = .5\paperwidth (210mm) - orad \setlayer[PageLayer][x=45mm,y=.25\paperheight,location=r]{\framed[background=test 1]{\getshapetext}} \startshapetext[test 2] \input knuth \stopshapetext % x = .5\paperwidth (210mm) + orad \setlayer[PageLayer][x=165mm,y=.25\paperheight,location=l]{\framed[background=test 2]{\getshapetext}} \stoptext ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] list ?
Renaud AUBIN wrote: Hi all, Considering the fact that I have no answer for the thread [NTG-context] Presentation style: customizing the right interaction menu (list-related thread), I decided to reformulate my problem... After some experiments, I have the following code: \definehead [Topic] [chapter] \definehead [Subject] [section] \setuplist[Topic][alternative=f,criterium=all,align=left] \setuplist[Subject][alternative=f,criterium=chapter,align=left] \starttext \Topic{Topic 1} \Subject{Subject 1} \Subject{Subject 2} \Subject{Subject 3} \placelist[Topic,Subject] \Topic{Topic 2} \Subject{Subject 1} \Subject{Subject 2} \Subject{Subject 3} \stoptext Considering the fact that I use criterium=chapter in \setuplist[Subject], I thought that \placelist[Topic,Subject] leads to: Topic 1 Subject 1 Subject 2 Subject 3 Topic 2 but unfortunately, that's not the case and I don't understand why... I've also tried some setup with combinedlist but nothing works... Could someone explain why criterium as no effect... Moreover, I don't understand what coupling= on|off does... maybe future version of context will provide more control; for the moment, stick to: \definehead [Topic] [chapter] \definehead [Subject] [section] \newcounter\MyTopicCounter \startsetups MyTopicList \blank \doglobal\increment\MyTopicCounter \doglobal\newcounter\MySubjectCounter \placelist[Topic][criterium=text,after=\setups{MySubjectList}] \stopsetups \startsetups MySubjectList \doglobal\increment\MySubjectCounter \doifelse{\MyTopicCounter}{\MySubjectCounter} { \placelist[Subject] } { % whatever } \stopsetups \starttext \Topic{first} \Subject{one} test \Subject{two} test \setups[MyTopicList] \page \Topic{second} \Subject{alpha} test \Subject{beta} test \setups[MyTopicList] \page \stoptext - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
Fantastic. I'm having great time in creating a(n academic) poster with ConTeXt. By the way, is there a way where the command is listed? Thanks -a- On 20 Oct 2006, at 09:37, Hans Hagen wrote: andrea valle wrote: Hi to all, sorry this should be obvious but I cannot find it in the docs. How do I set in \setupframed the frame thickness (i.e. the thickness of the surrounding border)? \framed[rulethickness=1mm]{Thick as can be} - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
By the way, is there a way where the command is listed? (I mean, the option ruledthickness indeed) -a- Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
2006/10/20, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: By the way, is there a way where the command is listed?(I mean, the option ruledthickness indeed) -a-Andrea Valle Hi Anrea, the option rulethickness for the framed macro is nowhere listed in one if the manuals, it is only mentioned in the wiki als parmater for natural Tables http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE#Make_a_cell_bold and at the page for the animated euro sign http://wiki.contextgarden.net/EuroAnim. It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the neccesary file cont-en.xml). The best sources are only the sources if you want to know which options are available for every command. Wolfgang ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the neccesary file cont-en.xml). hm, interesting since it's rather old; added Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
So, command list is edited by hand? It is not possible to have something like doxygen to generate a command list from source? Just for my curiousity. (It will be always updated, and won't require additional efforts). -a- On 20 Oct 2006, at 11:38, Hans Hagen wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the neccesary file cont-en.xml). hm, interesting since it's rather old; added Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Context and CD labels
(...) I'll let you do the job for positionning. You'll find as attached an example... Since it's not obvious to me to make a shapetext with a holed shape (I have tried some tricks but failed), I reserved 2 text areas: 1. (test 1) song list for example 2. (test 2|framedtext) Author title This example assumes that : - the first label is centered on x=.5\paperwidth y=.75\paperwidth - the second is centered on x=.5\paperwidth y=.25\paperheight You can even put a background image if you want, using overlay and clip... Renaud (...) Thanks! That's exactly what I need. Best, M. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Directories of pictures
Hi, When I use \externalfigure inside of \placefigure, Context can only find filenames in the current directory, i.e., the directory where I'm executing texexec. How can I instruct Context to look for files on the same directory of my .tex file? Thanks, Maurício ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Directories of pictures
Maurcio a crit: Hi, When I use \externalfigure inside of \placefigure, Context can only find filenames in the current directory, i.e., the directory where I'm executing texexec. How can I instruct Context to look for files on the same directory of my .tex file? Thanks, Maurcio ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Use \setupexternalfigures[directory={./src/images}] for example. Renaud ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Directories of pictures
Use: \setupexternalfigures[directory={path_to_your_figures,another_path}] Cheers, Jörg On Oct 20, 2006, at 2:34 PM, Maurício wrote: Hi, When I use \externalfigure inside of \placefigure, Context can only find filenames in the current directory, i.e., the directory where I'm executing texexec. How can I instruct Context to look for files on the same directory of my .tex file? Thanks, Maurício ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Fitz, MuPDF, Apparition
While downloading latest ghostscript, I found some news at www.ghostscript.com. At ccxvii.net/apparition there are MuPDF and Fitz where MuPDF is a pdf parser for Fitz, a new graphics library. Apparition is a pdf viewer that seems very good (I try it and it is clean and quick.) Does anybody know something about them ? luigi ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
andrea valle wrote: So, command list is edited by hand? It is not possible to have something like doxygen to generate a command list from source? even then it has to be defined i.e. edited ; maybe some day it will be possible to generate the \setup commands from the formal definition [the reverse] (and also add some checking) but i'll happily wait with that till i have a faster computer. spreading the definitions across the source (i.e. splitting up cont-en.xml) is an option but we don't gain anything; actually, long ago those defs were all over the place Just for my curiousity. (It will be always updated, and won't require additional efforts). tex is not a regular programming language -) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] url compared to hyperref
Here is an example that I put on the wiki (because I kept forgetting how to do it and wanted one place to find it again, but I never can find it quickly there anyway, so now it's in the list archives at least): \setupcolors[state=start] \setupinteraction[state=start,color=middlered] \useURL [garden][http://contextgarden.net][][Context garden] \starttext The \from[garden] is useful. \stoptext I just tested it on the live context and it works fine with an active link in the pdf file. But it didn't work in the 2006.10.05 beta (the space in the Context garden caused problems). Maybe your example didn't have \setupinteraction[state=start] ? -Sanjoy `Never underestimate the evil of which men of power are capable.' --Bertrand Russell, _War Crimes in Vietnam_, chapter 1. ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Directories of pictures
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Jörg Hagmann wrote: Use: \setupexternalfigures[directory={path_to_your_figures,another_path}] And you can even use relative paths and go 'down' in the directory tree: \setupexternalfigures[directory={../pdf-images,../png-images}] See also: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Using_Graphics Mari (who's had her share of 'why in the bleep doesn't it found that pic')___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Directories of pictures
Hi, When I use \externalfigure inside of \placefigure, Context can only find filenames in the current directory, i.e., the directory where I'm executing texexec. How can I instruct Context to look for files on the same directory of my .tex file? (...) \placefigure[here]{none}{ \startcombination[2*4] {\externalfigure[courbe1][width=.4\textwidth]}{} {\externalfigure[courbe2][width=.4\textwidth]}{} (...) texexec sample give satisfaction... That's what I'm doing, but Context looks for the .png files in the current directory. My previous answer assumes that your pictures are in ./src/images/ With your previous example, I would have to place my pictures in current_dir/scr/images. I would like to put my pictures in tex_file_dir/scr/images, and have Context to find them no matter which directory I'm in when I execute texexec. Also, I would like to use relative paths, not absolute paths. Best, Maurício ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Directories of pictures
Mari Voipio wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Jörg Hagmann wrote: Use: \setupexternalfigures[directory={path_to_your_figures,another_path}] And you can even use relative paths and go 'down' in the directory tree: \setupexternalfigures[directory={../pdf-images,../png-images}] (...) But those would be relative to the shell current directory, not to tex file directory. Best, Maurício ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Fitz, MuPDF, Apparition
luigi scarso wrote: While downloading latest ghostscript, I found some news at www.ghostscript.com. At ccxvii.net/apparition there are MuPDF and Fitz where MuPDF is a pdf parser for Fitz, a new graphics library. Apparition is a pdf viewer that seems very good (I try it and it is clean and quick.) Does anybody know something about them ? no, just downloaded it .. no transparencies and problems with say show-man.pdf (obj numbers) but it's pretty fast ... promissing Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Directories of pictures
� wrote: With your previous example, I would have to place my pictures in current_dir/scr/images. I would like to put my pictures in tex_file_dir/scr/images, and have Context to find them no matter which directory I'm in when I execute texexec. Also, I would like to use relative paths, not absolute paths. ./src/images you can see what happens with \traceexternalfigurestrue - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] list ?
Hi Hans, I succeed to do what I want thanks to you (once more ;) ) ! I'll put the resulting presentation online at least at the end of the next week (u3d + layer + custom pre-original + animation with JS and fieldstack + program runs including mplayer runs with linux + ... robotics ?) Renaud Hans Hagen a crit: maybe future version of context will provide more control; for the moment, stick to: \definehead [Topic] [chapter] \definehead [Subject] [section] \newcounter\MyTopicCounter \startsetups MyTopicList \blank \doglobal\increment\MyTopicCounter \doglobal\newcounter\MySubjectCounter \placelist[Topic][criterium=text,after=\setups{MySubjectList}] \stopsetups \startsetups MySubjectList \doglobal\increment\MySubjectCounter \doifelse{\MyTopicCounter}{\MySubjectCounter} { \placelist[Subject] } { % whatever } \stopsetups \starttext \Topic{first} \Subject{one} test \Subject{two} test \setups[MyTopicList] \page \Topic{second} \Subject{alpha} test \Subject{beta} test \setups[MyTopicList] \page \stoptext ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] frame thickness
Thanks for the search algorithm :-) Best -a- On 20 Oct 2006, at 16:52, Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: 2006/10/20, andrea valle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: By the way, is there a way where the command is listed? (I mean, the option ruledthickness indeed) -a- Andrea Valle Hi Anrea, the option rulethickness for the framed macro is nowhere listed in one if the manuals, it is only mentioned in the wiki als parmater for natural Tables http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TABLE#Make_a_cell_bold and at the page for the animated euro sign http://wiki.contextgarden.net/EuroAnim. It is currently missing in the commanindex setup-en.pdf (and the neccesary file cont-en.xml). The best sources are only the sources if you want to know which options are available for every command. True indeed. This is what I usually do to find out about an option. Search texwebshow for options. If it is there, read the manual for the description. If I do not find any relevant option, but know that ConTeXt ought to have an option for what I want (which usually means that it will), look in the sources. My strategy for searching the sources involves finding out which source file defines the option. (search on sources.contextgarden.net work for most cases, I use grep for the cases which are more trickier to find). Most (all?) commands come with an accompanying \setup command, which initiallizes all the options for the command. This way, one knows atleast which options a command will accept. In most cases guessing the functionality of an option is easy, as ConTeXt uses a consistent interface for everything. Sometimes, when I have no clue what that option does, I search where the option is used. Most options are stored using \getparameters[\??xx] where xx is a two letter abbreviation. Then you can search for \@@xxoption to see where it is used. That way, you can usually guess what an option does. The sources also have some examples that are usually useful in understanding a few tricks about the command. If I still can not figure out, I ask on the mailing list. Aditya ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context Andrea Valle DAMS - Facoltà di Scienze della Formazione Università degli Studi di Torino http://www.semiotiche.it/andrea [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context